Comments by "" (@NinjaKittyBonks) on "The Subway Vigilante" video.
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@jdmac157 ... First: OK, just watched the entire Bernard Goetz interview from LINK above. Second: I have ZERO training / schooling as psychiatrist in any way, shape or form, so the following is 100% my take on what was shown in that video and the little that I recall from when it occured
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ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING is the only way I can describe how Bernard spoke on what led up to and including the events of that day. He was brutally honest and did not hide or shy away from anything and laid bare his very soul to be judged by anyone who were to see that recording. I was especially impressed with the jury members that were interviewed and specifically how Ms. Serpe very intellectually broke down her interpretation of Bernard speaking to the Cabey. I thought she understood and found words to describe how many of us respond or think in the past-tense and find a way to relay those details to another, as if they happened in real time during an event. It is extremely clear to me that Bernard was VERY, VERY traumatized from his being mugged 3 years earlier and was not known to me until the last couple days.
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Bernard had literally years to think about the events of that 1st mugging and slowly built up the determination to avoid such treatment in the future. However, I cannot say he was "looking for trouble", but was able to recognize it when he was exposed to it. When he described in great detail talking with these 4 and how they positioned themselves to be on each side of him, there is NO PERSON ON PLANET EARTH who would not see that as a threat. I don't care if it was 4 priests with Bibles, it would still make someone weary of being surrounded or movement prohibited. His description of verbal exchanges, motions and such by all involved, were very detailed and probably rehearsed in the days prior to turning himself in to police.
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What was equally fascinating, if not disturbing, is those that were pushing a racial angle. There was absolutely nothing in what Bernard said at any point, to suggest any kind of racial bias or factor in any way. One of those interviewed mentioned this specifically and pointed out how nearly impossible it would be to hide racial motivation by someone so distressed as Bernard was, during this video. It just goes to show that there are always some who will always play the race card and is 10 fold in current society. Just as Bernard took exception, so did I with the off-camera psychologist, I suppose she was, asking..."Why these 4 people". Clearly, such a question was designed to initiate some kind of uncontrolled response to manipulate Bernard into saying something racist or that he was looking to take someone out. Bernard answered her question with much more control than I think I would have, as I would have fallen into her trap. It was also particularly frustrating to hear the prosecuting attorney saying that anyone who is NOT a racist, cannot possibly have not found him guilty. Essentially, impugning the jury as idiots or just plain stupid, as to not see that he over reacted to a group of people on the subway.
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Bernard Goetz was about as honest, open and forthcoming as anyone I have ever seen regarding any event. In the end, the one conclusion I was unable to escape was that Bernard was VERY clearly a much different man after that 1st assault and played out ways he would respond differently, should something similar happen again. The psychology he used and broke down to very fine detail, shows that his response to this attack was much more thought out than I believe most people would consider, should they find themselves in the same situation.
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It is not possible to know what would have happened, if he had just given them $5.00, but in my opinion, he was 100% justified in making the first move, so to speak, in defense of his life. What was also telling was the pending cases and current jail time for a couple defendants who testified at the trial. These were career criminals who were no stranger to doing bad things to random people, so they got what such people nearly always get... dying by the sword in which they lived.
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Peace to you, John Daniel :)
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