Comments by "" (@NinjaKittyBonks) on "What Happened To Ana Kasparian?" video.
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@totorosghost ... I have at least 3 comments that were removed and none of which came within 500 miles of any ToS lines. At least one of them was in simple agreement with another, so it was removed. The take in my OP was as you stated in the middle of your reply here, though I just afforded a higher degree of respect. That respect does not travel beyond what you said, but I stand behind it, for what it is. I have done additional clarification in more than a few replies within this thread, so I would ask that you expand it, so as to better understand my position. Ana was willing to directly promote this channel on her platform and that is no small thing. This channel has been exceptionally critical of her platform on many occasions and those who are steadfastly in agreement with her for all this time, have heard it. I am not expecting a mass changing of minds, but she has earned their support, so it is a chipping away at the positions they hold. This is a good thing, just as it is for ANY person who hears a challenge to their long held belief / position on anything.
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She has a LOT more of their respect, due to her long held political opinions, so this is a positive move. It does not undo or make up for anything, but it is a step in a more sensible direction. I don't see her ever going GOP, but society needs the left to re-adopt positions in which we have all agreed for millennia. I don't see how anyone can un-see what she has, so this is a good thing. On your closing line, I 100% agree and time will tell. Peace, Toto
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@totorosghost .... Thank you and I agree. While I have never watched her show, only seen reactions to it (98% of those by Sean). I have seen a HUGE amount of segments, that include a lot of context, so I feel what I have seen is a good representation of each, though the totality of those dishonest segments, should never be ignored. My bias is certainly very strong against the show in general, but Cenk more than any one else. He is the undisputed👑of the straw man and is not possible to be as ignorant as he would need to be, in order to honestly believe a HUGE amount of what he says (being understated with my words, for reasons we both understand). You are correct, in that it is very little, within the context of all that she has supported over the years. I do hope she continues to allow what she is far more willing to recognize, to influence here world view going forward. Only time will tell and maybe I am unrealistically optimistic, but her sitting down with pub. en. #1, Ben Shaprio twice, is enough to end someone in her positions career.
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In the end, I don't think any of this will matter much, as society is so incredibly fractured, I am not convinced we will escape collapse. Canada, UK and USA are in a race, though I think Canada will be the 1st to completely stop working into chaos. We are soo far along this path, we are gonna need to see such a thing happen, in order to hopefully get the wake up call necessary. I am an optimist, but very pessimistic about what I see. Best to you as well, Toto and want to say I appreciate the push back, you and others have offered. I see them all as balancing the scales, so as to keep my bias in check and that is something I always strive to do.
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@totorosghost ... I get all that and why I freely admit I have not watched TYT to any real degree. However, NONE of that changes the credit I have afforded her. I made it exceptionally clear, that it does not erase anything she has done, only that she HAS seen some of the error of her ways. Accepting that error has in ZERO ways, righted any wrongs, only that I will welcome ANY human on the face of this planet, to move ANY degree toward a sensible position on ANY issue that necessitates it for a cohesive society.
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I am not sure why you continue to read more into my opinion than I have made extremely clear on many occasions, within this thread. Your last comment, is very much in line with what I have been saying from the start. If she had one 1B horrendous lies, that does NOT erase any of the truths. It does not excuse them nor does it afford her my forgiveness for them. She has a VERY large platform and has taken owner ship for some of those things she has advocated for all along.
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Do you think it would have been better had she NEVER been willing to speak to Ben Shapiro, NEVER had recommended (it seemed very sincere) this channel, had NEVER began calling out the liberal policies that she voted for are failing? If you answer a "NO" to even 1% of ANY of those questions, than you and I are in agreement.
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I am not seeking a "gotcha" or "I told you so" moment, I am just standing behind what you have already gave a tiny bit of credit for doing. Now, maybe my credit is slightly higher, and that is an accurate way to describe it, than yours... but that is where we are. I also said that she cannot "unsee" what she has acknowledged were failed policies that she supported. This means, she will exercise more scrutiny going forward, because she has now accepted the consequences of that which she voted for in the past. Will she suddenly decide that she likes to be called a birthing person or person who menstruates? Will she suddenly decide that no bail for multiple time felons is a good thing, after calling them out...? It is "possible", but the likelihood is lower than a snakes belly.
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Time will tell....
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@totorosghost ... You continue to read a LOT into at least my cooment(s). If you have not already, expand them and see each one of my replies, as I have been not only consistent, but have not gone beyond my OP. Like everyone else in this thread, I have a TON of disagreements, push-back and more, for many positions I have heard / seen her support / praise.
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However, while ALL of those things were, are and remain true, she has been willing to not only accept a 180 degree turn on a number of big issues, but she cannot "unsee" what she has been accepting for a while now. She will certainly never be team Cheeto Man nor even a conservative, but as I have asked in one or two previous replies... how often do we see ANYONE so far on the left of so many issues, not go double, triple, quadruple and octuplet down on every single occasion?
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She is still and will always lean very heavy to the left and maybe even more than ever on some of them, she has been willing to not just reverse course on some very key issues, but once a person's eyes have been opened to such a degree, she cannot simply close them again. She is allowing at least some of the sane back into her liberal world view, so I am merely recognizing that.
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Furthermore, we must also recognize that she is on a MASSIVE platform, that has millions of followers, who despise these change of positions, but some of them WILL give some benefit of the doubt and listen, because she has their ear, regardless of yours, mine and all others in this threads opinion about those positions. She is now embracing fact over feelings in a number of issues those of us on the outside have been ripping our hair out, hoping she and many others would see.
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I get that probably most of these changes of position, have come due to being directly effected by them, but that does count as changing position. We can ask.."what took so long" and similar questions, but the point is.... she is not only reversing course on some huge things, but now TELLING that audience of millions just why she is doing so and some of them will be moved, to some degree, as she has. Those people will now begin to think about them and guess what... THEY will talk to others and share those views. Sure, some will be dragged back again or just leave the channel, but she IS getting some of them to look at an opposing opinion and giving it consideration.
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This is where I have stood since my OP. I have zero hopes she will begin wearing a dark pink hat with 4 letters embossed upon it, but we NEED sane libs and on at least some of the biggest issues (crime), she is not just moving that direction but to the point where she gave a sincere shout out to Sean's channel. Sean has been one of her harshest critics, yet here she is telling those millions of followers to check him out.
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I am repeating myself and like you, I have had an INSANE number of comments removed (my story is worse than most reading this, I can all but guarantee it), so I will back this up to Wordpad, in the event that it is removed, so I can try again with some encryption. Though, my experience as of late is that once a SINGLE comment / reply has been removed, from a video, any further comments, are then auto-deleted for at least 24 hours and often times, permanently. I have a sheet ton of threads in which I cannot reply to strawman, obfuscation, conflation, lies and some extremely bad faith replies to my comments and not one GD'd thing can do about answering to them. What makes it worse, is then that person continues to call me out, for not remaining in the thread, as if I cannot refute his / her "facts".
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I know your pain ALL too well, but will keep on trying anyway. Peace, Toto :)
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@totorosghost .... (trying again)..... Seems you continue to read a LOT into at least my comment(s). If you have not already, expand them and see each one of my replies, as I have been not only consistent, but have not gone beyond my OP. Like everyone else in this thread, I have a TON of disagreements, push-back and more, for many positions I have heard / seen her support / praise.
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However, while ALL of those things were, are and remain true, she has been willing to not only accept a 180 degree turn on a number of big issues, but she cannot "unsee" what she has been accepting for a while now. She will certainly never be team Cheeto Man nor even a conservative, but as I have asked in one or two previous replies... how often do we see ANYONE so far on the left of so many issues, not go double, triple, quadruple and octuplet down on every single occasion?
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She is still and will always lean very heavy to the left and maybe even more than ever on some of them, she has been willing to not just reverse course on some very key issues, but once a person's eyes have been opened to such a degree, she cannot simply close them again. She is allowing at least some of the sane back into her liberal world view, so I am merely recognizing that.
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Furthermore, we must also recognize that she is on a MASSIVE platform, that has millions of followers, who despise these change of positions, but some of them WILL give some benefit of the doubt and listen, because she has their ear, regardless of yours, mine and all others in this threads opinion about those positions. She is now embracing fact over feelings in a number of issues those of us on the outside have been ripping our hair out, hoping she and many others would see.
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I get that probably most of these changes of position, have come due to being directly effected by them, but that does count as changing position. We can ask.."what took so long" and similar questions, but the point is.... she is not only reversing course on some huge things, but now TELLING that audience of millions just why she is doing so and some of them will be moved, to some degree, as she has. Those people will now begin to think about them and guess what... THEY will talk to others and share those views. Sure, some will be dragged back again or just leave the channel, but she IS getting some of them to look at an opposing opinion and giving it consideration.
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This is where I have stood since my OP. I have zero hopes she will begin wearing a dark pink hat with 4 letters embossed upon it, but we NEED sane libs and on at least some of the biggest issues (crime), she is not just moving that direction but to the point where she gave a sincere shout out to Sean's channel. Sean has been one of her harshest critics, yet here she is telling those millions of followers to check him out.
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I am repeating myself and like you, I have had an INSANE number of comments removed (my story is worse than most reading this, I can all but guarantee it), so I will back this up to Wordpad, in the event that it is removed, so I can try again with some encryption. Though, my experience as of late is that once a SINGLE comment / reply has been removed, from a video, any further comments, are then auto-deleted for at least 24 hours and often times, permanently. I have a sheet ton of threads in which I cannot reply to strawman, obfuscation, conflation, lies and some extremely bad faith replies to my comments and not one GD'd thing can do about answering to them. What makes it worse, is then that person continues to call me out, for not remaining in the thread, as if I cannot refute his / her "facts".
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I know your pain ALL too well, but will keep on trying anyway. Peace, Toto :)
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