Comments by "" (@psychcowboy1) on "The Rubin Report"
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@oerjanlothe2369 The entire GQ interview. Were there any Peterson wins? Here are a couple of Helen wins, starting at like 41:00.
1. Helen: It works in two different ways, it makes lobsters more aggressive and it makes humans less aggressive.'
Peterson interrupting: No that's not right, it makes humans less aggressive...It makes a lobster more likely to fight again.'
[uh Whoops Jordan. She agreed with you that serotonin makes humans less aggressive, and she is wrong... for agreeing with you? Lobsters that want to fight are not displaying aggression? Fighting isn't aggression? The relevant paper is called Serotonin and Aggression Motivation in Crustaceans, concluding that serotonin makes lobsters adopt aggressive postures...SCORE: Helen 1, Jordan 0]
2."I chose lobsters, the reason I made that argument was to put paid to the absurd Marxist proposition that hierarchical structures are a secondary consequence of free market economies which is as preposterous a theory as you could have about anything.'
Helen: 'Lobsters say the thing that you ideologically want to talk about that your belief that there is a kind of Marxist ideology...'
Peterson interrupting: 'How do lobsters say that?'
[Uh what Jordan? You just explained how lobsters demonstrate that. Remember you chose lobsters to put rest to the absurd Marxist proposition, and now you are saying lobsters don't put to rest the absurd proposition? Remembering what you said 2 minutes ago can be super challenging I know.] SCORE: Helen 2, Jordan 0
3. Helen referring to equality of outcome: 'I don't think that is a widely held view.'
JP Interrupting as usual: 20% of social scientist identify as Marxist.
[Heads up JP, in the survey you are referring to, 3% of college professors identify as Marxist, and you claim that universities are dominated by leftist ideology, thus 3% of a very Left leaning sample identify as Marxist... and you are disagreeing with Helen? Whoops. 3% of a skewed sample group does not equal 'widely held view'. I guess you can teach psychology even at Harvard without having a basic grasp on scientific and mathematical analysis. The study Prevalence of Marxism in Academia states that Marxism is 'A tiny minority faith', i.e. Peterson cited a study to prove Helen wrong, when it actually proved her right. SCORE: Helen 3, Jordan 0]
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Pretenderhead at 36:00. 'Tech companies are trying deliver something you will attend to, AI machines that will analyze your eye movements, to see what you are looking at, they are trying to figure out what you want and deliver it to you fast, Can we trust us, not if we are lying, that makes misinformation, the naked desire for power, the systems get contaminated, look what we are doing, you and I are having a conversation that will be distributed, its a miracle, translators work on my YT content, its very hard to translate YT to other languages, it hasn't been thought through, there is a real time translator, this is unbelievable...this over simplification and demonization has to stop... I talked to democrats who think antifa is illusory, but who think there is a conspiratory force on the right.'
[The king of over simplification and demonizing thinks we need to stop that, and in the very next sentence he over simplifies and demonizes democrats who think antifa is illusory and right wing conspiracy is real? Whoops dude. And how did he get from tech companies trying to sell us stuff, duh, to antifa in three sentences? Peterson is amazed at YouTube? Hasn't it been around for like 20 years? It's very hard to translate other languages but there is a real time translator? This guys brain is such total chaos. Dave; a coherent point anywhere in this video? Give me a nudge when you find it.]
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@bry8120 Ok neither of us can find something intelligent by JP. Randomly at 16:00 with these two pretend smart guys; The climate conferences, we have to sacrifice, Obama bought a 15 million house.
"There are hierarchies of competence and corrupted by power, how much, we should clean them up, to fix them, illness and death climb from the bottom up, psycho-physiologically easer at the top, we double energy cost old poor people die, which side are you on Leftists?, are you going to sacrifice the poor, there is no consensus in science...people go to the bathroom so there is no zero pollution, it is not detailed solutions, copious energy for everyone, you should only care about cheap energy if you are on the Left, what is work, energy is everything...the US has cut CO2 14% because of fracking..."
So Rubin describes this as: Looking for smart and honest conversations ...increase your critical thinking by listening to different perspectives on a variety of topics? If so, then you’re in the right place because ... the ideas of some of society's most interesting thought leaders, authors, politicians and comedians.
Rubin is calling JP a critical thinking thought leader? How the hell did JP get from sacrifice for climate change to hierarchies and competence? Because he can't go more than a couple paragraphs without leaning on his go to phrases, competence hierarchies and tyrannical patriarchy.
There is no consensus in science...from a non-scientist, please Jordan, stay in your lane. People don't have detailed solutions -- from a guy who never has a solution to anything. You should only care about cheap energy if you are on the Left? What a total idiot. Did he forget he is talking about reducing CO2 levels? Energy consumption is where CO2 comes from dork. Peterson's claim about CO2 reduction is also incorrect. The levels have stayed about the same since 1990, influenced more by cleaner burning cars than more fracking.
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@TubTechGuru NOEM: What has he done, what has he done, he has done nothing with tools and policy, he doesn't let us do our job, he will not keep us safe.
RUBIN: She is saying what everyone knows, no one believes the federal government is doing their job, border agents don't like to be a travel agent, you can go to Chicago. The democrat party, one of your few jobs dude.
Dave, this alleged Host is stumped by question turned against her? Where did that happen exactly?
Here is what happened, Noem shared her made up feelings that Biden has done nothing with tools and policy, and then Rubin shared his made up feelings that no one believes the federal government is doing their job and border agents are forced to act as travel agents.
At somewhere around the 80th percentile for gullibility you become a Rubin believer.
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Is Rubin joking? JP most important speech? Dave? Please timestamp and quote an important and useful idea by JP anywhere in this entire video. Good luck. Well the most important speech JP has ever made; not a very high bar.
'Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...'
'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
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Peterson at 13:00 'The best way to save the planet is to make poor people rich as fast as we can...the biggest environmental issue facing us is over fishing...what does sustainable mean?...why should we care, how should we care? you have to prioritize, 200 goals is chaos, do you have a better idea, then what good is your criticism...'
[Wait, is Peterson, a guy who never has a solution to anything trying to rip on people who criticize with no better ideas? Pretty funny. The biggest environmental issue facing us is over fishing? No it isn't. The only result of over fishing is there are too few fish, who will of course replenish within a generation. The best way to save the planet is to make everyone rich? This guy is so totally full of crap. Environmental problems are caused by consumerism, which is a direct byproduct of wealth. What does sustainable mean? It means Jordan that the rate of consumption equals the rate of replacement. In another section Jordan says that the best way to solve pollution in India is to burn more coal. What is a guy who claims we don't have an over population problem doing projecting to solve problems in India when their entire problem is over population?
How about this Dave, lets do a debate with me, Jordan, and you and discuss actual solutions. HMU, anytime.]
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Let's check out Dr. Potaterson at 10:00: 'Climate change is the biggest health issue of our time, No, overreaching beaurocrats are, China is building nuclear reactors, we can't get our act together to build nuclear in the US, if you are concerned about the poor and the environment you make power as cheap as possible because there is no difference between energy and wealth, there is a bit of the problem getting rid of the waste, save the climate by making power as cheap as possible, as CO2 levels rise plants can grow more in drier environments, I read 200 books what I learned was things are way better than everyone thinks, the biggest environmental problem is over fishing in the ocean...
[Help me out Dave, haven't you claimed that JP is some kind of intellectual? What is even remotely intellectual about any of this? There is a bit of a problem getting rid of nuclear waste? Sure Jordan, half life of cancer causing mineral of 50,000 years, a BIT of a problem? We can't get out act together for nuclear in the US? Wrong Jordan, we made an environmental and safety issue to limit new nuclear. You can help the poor by making energy as cheap as possible? Wrong, energy cost is not the biggest part of someone's budget. And making energy cheap helps the environment? Wrong again, cheap energy tends to result in more driving, more air conditioning, more manufacturing, and more consumerism; all at the bottom of the pyramid for environmental damage. Remember when you claim to use multi variate analysis? So why are you over simplifying to 'energy is everything' here? There is no difference between energy and wealth, and climate and everything are the same word? This guy seriously needs a vocabulary lesson and instruction in basic logic. Over reaching beaurocrats are the biggest health issue? Heads up Jordan, do a google search for Covid 19 and bring yourself up to speed with what everyone else in the world has known for the last two years.]
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Peterson at 21:00 'People go to the bathroom there is not Zero pollution, net zero is an empty talking point, it is not careful thinking that produces a solution...' [Heads up Jordan no one is suggesting we can get to zero pollution, the stated goal is NET ZERO CO2. You are welcome for the lesson in basic logic and science. Careful thinking that produces a solution? Dave, has Jordan ever done that himself?]
'How about copious energy for everyone as clean as possible, resilient stable systems, the only thing you should care about is cheap energy, work makes people prosperous and secure, what is work, it is the expenditure of energy, what is energy, work wealth, energy is everything, US has knocked CO2 down by 14% in the last couple of decades because of fracking, war is not good for the environment...'
Jump to 34:00 'I rewrote sections of the document and my rewrites stuck, I did the work, they didn't have time to rewrite it, high end people are busy, they don't have time to analyze sustainable development goals...the only person trained to do it is Lomborg...'
[So JP's solution is lots of cheap energy for everyone? Does he have a magic wand to make this happen? Does he not realize that many of our environmental problems are related to energy consumption funding consumerism? What is work? Work is energy? I think JP is confusing work by people with the concept of work and energy in pure physics. Whoops. He wants to brag that he wrote sections that stuck? Maybe that happened, I will check it out. The other people didn't have time to analyze sustainable development goals? He knows this how? Literally every sentence out of his mouth is total nonsense, including that CO2 levels have dropped by 14% and that is due to fracking. The only person trained to analyze sustainable goals is Lomborg? Like in the entire world Jordan. Dave, help me out here, why are you nodding your head to this nonsense?]
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Wisdom? Where did that happen? Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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@slagebobs4109 True it is important to be personally responsible for your success and failures. I learned that from my parents and teachers in third grade. Vast swath believe in guaranteed income? Percent and source? Quote JP saying something insightful in this video. I promise to check it out, mixed with massive amounts of fake intellectual nonsense:
Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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Randomly at 16:00 with these two pretend smart guys; The climate conferences, we have to sacrifice, Obama bought a 15 million house.
"There are hierarchies of competence and corrupted by power, how much, we should clean them up, to fix them, illness and death climb from the bottom up, psycho-physiologically easer at the top, we double energy cost old poor people die, which side are you on Leftists?, are you going to sacrifice the poor, there is no consensus in science...people go to the bathroom so there is no zero pollution, it is not detailed solutions, copious energy for everyone, you should only care about cheap energy if you are on the Left, what is work, energy is everything...the US has cut CO2 14% because of fracking..."
So Rubin describes this as: Looking for smart and honest conversations ...increase your critical thinking by listening to different perspectives on a variety of topics? If so, then you’re in the right place because ... the ideas of some of society's most interesting thought leaders, authors, politicians and comedians.
Rubin is calling JP a critical thinking thought leader? How the hell did JP get from sacrifice for climate change to hierarchies and competence? Because he can't go more than a couple paragraphs without leaning on his go to phrases, competence hierarchies and tyrannical patriarchy.
There is no consensus in science...from a non-scientist, please Jordan, stay in your lane. People don't have detailed solutions -- from a guy who never has a solution to anything. You should only care about cheap energy if you are on the Left? What a total idiot. Did he forget he is talking about reducing CO2 levels? Energy consumption is where CO2 comes from dork. Peterson's claim about CO2 reduction is also incorrect. The levels have stayed about the same since 1990, influenced more by cleaner burning cars than more fracking.
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@martin_swellfitness Our quest for an intellectual idea by JP continues.
An impressive amount of nonsense packed into 24:00 minutes. Important isn't the word I would use Dave. Easily the Most _______________ Speech JP has ever done.
'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
Let's see what to put in the blank. Rambling Self Absorbed Nonsensical. Dave? Can you edit the title?
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@markbrown8937 JP is a fake intellectual. I am a real intellectual since I realize things that JP does not, for example that characterization is a precondition for individual freedom, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, cognitive systems have axiomatic levels, and compassion doesn't scale as you move up the hierarchy of complexity, and also that the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light on the hierarchy of perception. What faith means is that you act out the proposition that you can ride the wave as big as it comes, all together in good will. Canonical patterns of being for what we act out in the world, waves of behavioral patterns across time, no one in their right mind would argue that numbers are not true, there are stories about you and you and you and the human experience as such, the thing is the pattern of their being, the process has been occurring for thousands of years, a representation of the distillation of the process, fairy tales that are really old, cultures that don't change stay the same, while creatures with nervous systems watch each other.
Jordan Peterson JP doesn't have the intellectual ability I have, since I realize that the future is unpredictable technically, you are not a clockwork machine, what does free will mean, you are not a deterministic clockwork machine, I move my arm in a complex way, I set it up in a deterministic way, as we implement our actions the horizon of possibility collapses into a deterministic actuality, the farther out into the future, the less deterministic our perceptions necessarily become, you are a visionary, you have to reconfigure how you think scientifically, you think there are objects and you react to those objects, and that is not true, you don't see objects, none of that is true, you don't see objects you see patterns that are functional.
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@bills5009 NOEM: What has he done, what has he done, he has done nothing with tools and policy, he doesn't let us do our job, he will not keep us safe.
RUBIN: She is saying what everyone knows, no one believes the federal government is doing their job, border agents don't like to be a travel agent, you can go to Chicago. The democrat party, one of your few jobs dude.
Dave, this alleged Host is stumped by question turned against her? Where did that happen exactly?
Here is what happened, Noem shared her made up feelings that Biden has done nothing with tools and policy, and then Rubin shared his made up feelings that no one believes the federal government is doing their job and border agents are forced to act as travel agents.
At somewhere around the 80th percentile for gullibility you become a Rubin believer.
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@bills5009 Rubin and his fans aren't fans of facts:
WHAT TRUMP DID: In March 2020, at the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, the Trump administration invoked Title 42, a controversial statute ostensibly meant as a public health measure. The policy allowed US authorities to swiftly expel migrants - including asylum seekers - at the border.
Nearly 400,000 people were detained and expelled between its implementation and January 2021, when Mr Trump left the White House.
WHAT BIDEN DID: He defended keeping Title 42 in place, using the pandemic as justification. Over 2.28 million people were expelled using Title 42 authority between January 2021 and March 2023, the last month for which data is available. But when the US ended its coronavirus public health emergency on May 11, Title 42 expired with it. To replace it, US immigration authorities unveiled a "carrot and stick" approach that encourages legal pathways, while also implementing strict penalties for those who cross illegally. They have opened regional processing centres in Latin America aimed at helping migrants apply to come to the US and expanded access to CBP One, an app migrants can use to schedule asylum appointments. People who cross illegally will be deported, barred from re-entering the US for at least five years, and be "presumed ineligible for asylum", according to Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
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@bills5009 NOEM: What has he done, what has he done, he has done nothing with tools and policy, he doesn't let us do our job, he will not keep us safe.
RUBIN: She is saying what everyone knows, no one believes the federal government is doing their job, border agents don't like to be a travel agent, you can go to Chicago. The democrat party, one of your few jobs dude.
Dave, this alleged Host is stumped by question turned against her? Where did that happen exactly? Here is what happened, Noem shared her made up feelings that Biden has done nothing with tools and policy, and then Rubin shared his made-up feelings that no one believes the federal government is doing their job and border agents are forced to act as travel agents. At somewhere around the 80th percentile for gullibility you become a Rubin believer.
Rubin and his fans aren't really fans of facts, but:
WHAT TRUMP DID: In March 2020, at the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, the Trump administration invoked Title 42, a controversial statute ostensibly meant as a public health measure. The policy allowed US authorities to swiftly expel migrants - including asylum seekers - at the border.
Nearly 400,000 people were detained and expelled between its implementation and January 2021, when Mr Trump left the White House.
WHAT BIDEN DID: He defended keeping Title 42 in place, using the pandemic as justification. Over 2.28 million people were expelled using Title 42 authority between January 2021 and March 2023, the last month for which data is available. But when the US ended its coronavirus public health emergency on May 11, Title 42 expired with it. To replace it, US immigration authorities unveiled a "carrot and stick" approach that encourages legal pathways, while also implementing strict penalties for those who cross illegally. They have opened regional processing centres in Latin America aimed at helping migrants apply to come to the US and expanded access to CBP One, an app migrants can use to schedule asylum appointments. People who cross illegally will be deported, barred from re-entering the US for at least five years, and be "presumed ineligible for asylum", according to Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
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@bills5009 NOEM: What has he done, what has he done, he has done nothing with tools and policy, he doesn't let us do our job, he will not keep us safe.
RUBIN: She is saying what everyone knows, no one believes the federal government is doing their job, border agents don't like to be a travel agent, you can go to Chicago. The democrat party, one of your few jobs dude.
Dave, this alleged Host is stumped by question turned against her? Where did that happen exactly? Here is what happened, Noem shared her made up feelings that Biden has done nothing with tools and policy, and then Rubin shared his made-up feelings that no one believes the federal government is doing their job and border agents are forced to act as travel agents. At somewhere around the 80th percentile for gullibility you become a Rubin believer.
Rubin and his fans aren't really fans of facts, but:
WHAT TRUMP DID: In March 2020, at the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, the Trump administration invoked Title 42, a controversial statute ostensibly meant as a public health measure. The policy allowed US authorities to swiftly expel migrants - including asylum seekers - at the border.
Nearly 400,000 people were detained and expelled between its implementation and January 2021, when Mr Trump left the White House.
WHAT BIDEN DID: He defended keeping Title 42 in place, using the pandemic as justification. Over 2.28 million people were expelled using Title 42 authority between January 2021 and March 2023, the last month for which data is available. But when the US ended its coronavirus public health emergency on May 11, Title 42 expired with it. To replace it, US immigration authorities unveiled a "carrot and stick" approach that encourages legal pathways, while also implementing strict penalties for those who cross illegally. They have opened regional processing centres in Latin America aimed at helping migrants apply to come to the US and expanded access to CBP One, an app migrants can use to schedule asylum appointments. People who cross illegally will be deported, barred from re-entering the US for at least five years, and be "presumed ineligible for asylum", according to Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
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@bills5009 I keep replying. It keeps getting deleted. I guess Rubin doesn't like free speech.
NOEM: What has he done, what has he done, he has done nothing with tools and policy, he doesn't let us do our job, he will not keep us safe.
RUBIN: She is saying what everyone knows, no one believes the federal government is doing their job, border agents don't like to be a travel agent, you can go to Chicago. The democrat party, one of your few jobs dude.
Dave, this alleged Host is stumped by question turned against her? Where did that happen exactly? Here is what happened, Noem shared her made up feelings that Biden has done nothing with tools and policy, and then Rubin shared his made-up feelings that no one believes the federal government is doing their job and border agents are forced to act as travel agents. At somewhere around the 80th percentile for gullibility you become a Rubin believer.
Rubin and his fans aren't really fans of facts, but:
WHAT TRUMP DID: In March 2020, at the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, the Trump administration invoked Title 42, a controversial statute ostensibly meant as a public health measure. The policy allowed US authorities to swiftly expel migrants - including asylum seekers - at the border.
Nearly 400,000 people were detained and expelled between its implementation and January 2021, when Mr Trump left the White House.
WHAT BIDEN DID: He defended keeping Title 42 in place, using the pandemic as justification. Over 2.28 million people were expelled using Title 42 authority between January 2021 and March 2023, the last month for which data is available. But when the US ended its coronavirus public health emergency on May 11, Title 42 expired with it. To replace it, US immigration authorities unveiled a "carrot and stick" approach that encourages legal pathways, while also implementing strict penalties for those who cross illegally. They have opened regional processing centres in Latin America aimed at helping migrants apply to come to the US and expanded access to CBP One, an app migrants can use to schedule asylum appointments. People who cross illegally will be deported, barred from re-entering the US for at least five years, and be "presumed ineligible for asylum", according to Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
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@badgeswedontneednostinking5571 NOEM: What has he done, what has he done, he has done nothing with tools and policy, he doesn't let us do our job, he will not keep us safe.
RUBIN: She is saying what everyone knows, no one believes the federal government is doing their job, border agents don't like to be a travel agent, you can go to Chicago. The democrat party, one of your few jobs dude.
Dave, this alleged Host is stumped by question turned against her? Where did that happen exactly? Here is what happened, Noem shared her made up feelings that Biden has done nothing with tools and policy, and then Rubin shared his made-up feelings that no one believes the federal government is doing their job and border agents are forced to act as travel agents. At somewhere around the 80th percentile for gullibility you become a Rubin believer.
Rubin and his fans aren't really fans of facts, but:
WHAT TRUMP DID: In March 2020, at the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, the Trump administration invoked Title 42, a controversial statute ostensibly meant as a public health measure. The policy allowed US authorities to swiftly expel migrants - including asylum seekers - at the border.
Nearly 400,000 people were detained and expelled between its implementation and January 2021, when Mr Trump left the White House.
WHAT BIDEN DID: He defended keeping Title 42 in place, using the pandemic as justification. Over 2.28 million people were expelled using Title 42 authority between January 2021 and March 2023, the last month for which data is available. But when the US ended its coronavirus public health emergency on May 11, Title 42 expired with it. To replace it, US immigration authorities unveiled a "carrot and stick" approach that encourages legal pathways, while also implementing strict penalties for those who cross illegally. They have opened regional processing centres in Latin America aimed at helping migrants apply to come to the US and expanded access to CBP One, an app migrants can use to schedule asylum appointments. People who cross illegally will be deported, barred from re-entering the US for at least five years, and be "presumed ineligible for asylum", according to Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
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Peterson at 21:00 'People go to the bathroom there is not Zero pollution, net zero is an empty talking point, it is not careful thinking that produces a solution...' [Heads up Jordan no one is suggesting we can get to zero pollution, the stated goal is NET ZERO CO2. You are welcome for the lesson in basic logic and science. Careful thinking that produces a solution? Dave, has Jordan ever done that himself?]
'How about copious energy for everyone as clean as possible, resilient stable systems, the only thing you should care about is cheap energy, work makes people prosperous and secure, what is work, it is the expenditure of energy, what is energy, work wealth, energy is everything, US has knocked CO2 down by 14% in the last couple of decades because of fracking, war is not good for the environment...'
Jump to 34:00 'I rewrote sections of the document and my rewrites stuck, I did the work, they didn't have time to rewrite it, high end people are busy, they don't have time to analyze sustainable development goals...the only person trained to do it is Lomborg...'
[So JP's solution is lots of cheap energy for everyone? Does he have a magic wand to make this happen? Does he not realize that many of our environmental problems are related to energy consumption funding consumerism? What is work? Work is energy? I think JP is confusing work by people with the concept of work and energy in pure physics. Whoops. He wants to brag that he wrote sections that stuck? Maybe that happened, I will check it out. The other people didn't have time to analyze sustainable development goals? He knows this how? Literally every sentence out of his mouth is total nonsense, including that CO2 levels have dropped by 14% and that is due to fracking. The only person trained to analyze sustainable goals is Lomborg? Like in the entire world Jordan. Dave, help me out here, why are you nodding your head to this nonsense?]
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JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder, the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...also that you think so that your stupid thoughts can die instead of you. At the upper end of a hierarchy, you find people who know a lot, if you are stupid, smart people won't listen to you, so you can inform yourself with tools and you won't be an embarrassment, the careless self-evident axiom of human social interaction is that if I can force you to do something then I have the right to do it.
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@oakson3045 Did you find an intelligent coherent statement by JP? Please share.
Pretenderson at 40:00 talking about antifa, 'how many people identifiable, who the hell are they, are they right or left, 800 antifa, then they don't exist, does it exist, they are agents of chaos, to sow discord, how to we protect ourselves, that is the endless question of the human race, men are less agreeable, women like disagreeable men, women chose their mates, the more disagreeable you are the less compassionate and generous you are, why do women pick disagreeable men, in one city they had a summer of love, so everyone is agreeable, do the psychopaths come out at night, agreeable people share, women have to protect their infants, they need men who can guard, if a man is too masculine they can't communicate, you have to hold the psychopaths down, they are at 3%, the Left says hierarchies are nothing but power, tough men are tougher than tough women, are we going to look at this straightforward and clearly?'
[Holy crap Dave, did Peterson just claim he is looking at this straightforward and clearly, after a pointless, unstraightforward, unclear and chaotic rambling that goes from how many antifa there are to women are more agreeable to the summer of love? Help me out Dave, reply to this comment. What precisely is Peterson's point here? Antifa exists or it doesn't exist? Women are more agreeable? I don't think that is true and of course it has absolutely nothing to do with antifa. The Left says hierarchies are nothing but power? Not true. JP made that up. How many Peterson's does it take to unscrew a lightbulb? One, but he does it by rotating the entire house in the opposite direction.]
Mr. Pretenderhead at 36:00. 'Tech companies are trying deliver something you will attend to, AI machines that will analyze your eye movements, to see what you are looking at, they are trying to figure out what you want and deliver it to you fast, Can we trust us, not if we are lying, that makes misinformation, the naked desire for power, the systems get contaminated, look what we are doing, you and I are having a conversation that will be distributed, its a miracle, translators work on my YT content, its very hard to translate YT to other languages, it hasn't been thought through, there is a real time translator, this is unbelievable...this over simplification and demonization has to stop... I talked to democrats who think antifa is illusory, but who think there is a conspiratory force on the right.'
[The king of over simplification and demonizing thinks we need to stop that, and in the very next sentence he over simplifies and demonizes democrats who think antifa is illusory and right wing conspiracy is real? Whoops dude. And how did he get from tech companies trying to sell us stuff, duh, to antifa in three sentences? Peterson is amazed at YouTube? Hasn't it been around for like 20 years? If you are lying you are spreading misinformation? This guy's genius is seriously off the charts. It's very hard to translate other languages but there is a real time translator? This guys brain is such total chaos. Dave; a coherent point anywhere in this video? Give me a nudge when you find it.]
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@oakson3045 Let's check out Dr. Potaterson at 10:00: 'Climate change is the biggest health issue of our time, No, overreaching beaurocrats are, China is building nuclear reactors, we can't get our act together to build nuclear in the US, if you are concerned about the poor and the environment you make power as cheap as possible because there is no difference between energy and wealth, there is a bit of the problem getting rid of the waste, save the climate by making power as cheap as possible, as CO2 levels rise plants can grow more in drier environments, I read 200 books what I learned was things are way better than everyone thinks, the biggest environmental problem is over fishing in the ocean...
[Help me out Dave, haven't you claimed that JP is some kind of intellectual? What is even remotely intellectual about any of this? There is a bit of a problem getting rid of nuclear waste? Sure Jordan, half life of cancer causing mineral of 50,000 years, a BIT of a problem? We can't get out act together for nuclear in the US? Wrong Jordan, we made an environmental and safety issue to limit new nuclear. You can help the poor by making energy as cheap as possible? Wrong, energy cost is not the biggest part of someone's budget. And making energy cheap helps the environment? Wrong again, cheap energy tends to result in more driving, more air conditioning, more manufacturing, and more consumerism; all at the bottom of the pyramid for environmental damage. Remember when you claim to use multi variate analysis? So why are you over simplifying to 'energy is everything' here? There is no difference between energy and wealth, and climate and everything are the same word? This guy seriously needs a vocabulary lesson and instruction in basic logic. Over reaching beaurocrats are the biggest health issue? Heads up Jordan, do a google search for Covid 19 and bring yourself up to speed with what everyone else in the world has known for the last two years.]
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If you understood what he said I would be worried. Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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The statement is total nonsense. Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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@andrewbradley3305 Wait, you found an intellectual idea by JP? this is exciting, what was it?
JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that we do not understand pre-experimental thinking, so we try to explain it in terms that we do understand – which means that we explain it away, define it as nonsense. After all, we think scientifically – so we believe – and we think we know what that means (since scientific thinking can in principle be defined). We are familiar with scientific thinking, and value it highly – so we tend to presume that that is all there is to thinking (that all other “forms of thought” are approximations, at best, to the ideal of scientific thought).
But this is not accurate. Thinking also and more fundamentally is specification of value – is specification of implication for behavior. This means that categorization, with regards to value –determination (or even perception) of what constitutes a single thing, or class of things – is the act of grouping together according to implication for behavior. Do you agree?
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@Birdracer22 Pretenderson at 40:00 talking about antifa, 'how many people identifiable, who the hell are they, are they right or left, 800 antifa, then they don't exist, does it exist, they are agents of chaos, to sow discord, how to we protect ourselves, that is the endless question of the human race, men are less agreeable, women like disagreeable men, women chose their mates, the more disagreeable you are the less compassionate and generous you are, why do women pick disagreeable men, in one city they had a summer of love, so everyone is agreeable, do the psychopaths come out at night, agreeable people share, women have to protect their infants, they need men who can guard, if a man is too masculine they can't communicate, you have to hold the psychopaths down, they are at 3%, the Left says hierarchies are nothing but power, tough men are tougher than tough women, are we going to look at this straightforward and clearly?'
[Holy crap Dave, did Peterson just claim he is looking at this straightforward and clearly, after a pointless, unstraightforward, unclear and chaotic rambling that goes from how many antifa there are to women are more agreeable to the summer of love? Help me out Dave, reply to this comment. What precisely is Peterson's point here? Antifa exists or it doesn't exist? Women are more agreeable? I don't think that is true and of course it has absolutely nothing to do with antifa. The Left says hierarchies are nothing but power? Not true. JP made that up. How many Peterson's does it take to unscrew a lightbulb? One, but he does it by rotating the entire house in the opposite direction.]
Mr. Pretenderhead at 36:00. 'Tech companies are trying deliver something you will attend to, AI machines that will analyze your eye movements, to see what you are looking at, they are trying to figure out what you want and deliver it to you fast, Can we trust us, not if we are lying, that makes misinformation, the naked desire for power, the systems get contaminated, look what we are doing, you and I are having a conversation that will be distributed, its a miracle, translators work on my YT content, its very hard to translate YT to other languages, it hasn't been thought through, there is a real time translator, this is unbelievable...this over simplification and demonization has to stop... I talked to democrats who think antifa is illusory, but who think there is a conspiratory force on the right.'
[The king of over simplification and demonizing thinks we need to stop that, and in the very next sentence he over simplifies and demonizes democrats who think antifa is illusory and right wing conspiracy is real? Whoops dude. And how did he get from tech companies trying to sell us stuff, duh, to antifa in three sentences? Peterson is amazed at YouTube? Hasn't it been around for like 20 years? If you are lying you are spreading misinformation? This guy's genius is seriously off the charts. It's very hard to translate other languages but there is a real time translator? This guys brain is such total chaos. Dave; a coherent point anywhere in this video? Give me a nudge when you find it.]
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@greylatern Can I see an example? Mr. Pretenderhead at 36:00. 'Tech companies are trying deliver something you will attend to, AI machines that will analyze your eye movements, to see what you are looking at, they are trying to figure out what you want and deliver it to you fast, Can we trust us, not if we are lying, that makes misinformation, the naked desire for power, the systems get contaminated, look what we are doing, you and I are having a conversation that will be distributed, its a miracle, translators work on my YT content, its very hard to translate YT to other languages, it hasn't been thought through, there is a real time translator, this is unbelievable...this over simplification and demonization has to stop... I talked to democrats who think antifa is illusory, but who think there is a conspiratory force on the right.'
[The king of over simplification and demonizing thinks we need to stop that, and in the very next sentence he over simplifies and demonizes democrats who think antifa is illusory and right wing conspiracy is real? Whoops dude. And how did he get from tech companies trying to sell us stuff, duh, to antifa in three sentences? Peterson is amazed at YouTube? Hasn't it been around for like 20 years? If you are lying you are spreading misinformation? This guy's genius is seriously off the charts. It's very hard to translate other languages but there is a real time translator? This guys brain is such total chaos. Dave; a coherent point anywhere in this video? Give me a nudge when you find it.]
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@greylatern Pretenderson at 40:00 talking about antifa, 'how many people identifiable, who the hell are they, are they right or left, 800 antifa, then they don't exist, does it exist, they are agents of chaos, to sow discord, how to we protect ourselves, that is the endless question of the human race, men are less agreeable, women like disagreeable men, women chose their mates, the more disagreeable you are the less compassionate and generous you are, why do women pick disagreeable men, in one city they had a summer of love, so everyone is agreeable, do the psychopaths come out at night, agreeable people share, women have to protect their infants, they need men who can guard, if a man is too masculine they can't communicate, you have to hold the psychopaths down, they are at 3%, the Left says hierarchies are nothing but power, tough men are tougher than tough women, are we going to look at this straightforward and clearly?'
[Holy crap Dave, did Peterson just claim he is looking at this straightforward and clearly, after a pointless, unstraightforward, unclear and chaotic rambling that goes from how many antifa there are to women are more agreeable to the summer of love? Help me out Dave, reply to this comment. What precisely is Peterson's point here? Antifa exists or it doesn't exist? Women are more agreeable? I don't think that is true and of course it has absolutely nothing to do with antifa. The Left says hierarchies are nothing but power? Not true. JP made that up. How many Peterson's does it take to unscrew a lightbulb? One, but he does it by rotating the entire house in the opposite direction.]
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@greylatern Apparently you feel JP is an expert in 90% of what he says here, you just aren't sure what it was, when you figure it out LMK.
Let's check out Dr. Potaterson at 10:00: 'Climate change is the biggest health issue of our time, No, overreaching beaurocrats are, China is building nuclear reactors, we can't get our act together to build nuclear in the US, if you are concerned about the poor and the environment you make power as cheap as possible because there is no difference between energy and wealth, there is a bit of the problem getting rid of the waste, save the climate by making power as cheap as possible, as CO2 levels rise plants can grow more in drier environments, I read 200 books what I learned was things are way better than everyone thinks, the biggest environmental problem is over fishing in the ocean...
[Help me out Dave, haven't you claimed that JP is some kind of intellectual? What is even remotely intellectual about any of this? There is a bit of a problem getting rid of nuclear waste? Sure Jordan, half life of cancer causing mineral of 50,000 years, a BIT of a problem? We can't get out act together for nuclear in the US? Wrong Jordan, we made an environmental and safety issue to limit new nuclear. You can help the poor by making energy as cheap as possible? Wrong, energy cost is not the biggest part of someone's budget. And making energy cheap helps the environment? Wrong again, cheap energy tends to result in more driving, more air conditioning, more manufacturing, and more consumerism; all at the bottom of the pyramid for environmental damage. Remember when you claim to use multi variate analysis? So why are you over simplifying to 'energy is everything' here? There is no difference between energy and wealth, and climate and everything are the same word? This guy seriously needs a vocabulary lesson and instruction in basic logic. Over reaching beaurocrats are the biggest health issue? Heads up Jordan, do a google search for Covid 19 and bring yourself up to speed with what everyone else in the world has known for the last two years.]
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@lanaevans7512 NOEM: What has he done, what has he done, he has done nothing with tools and policy, he doesn't let us do our job, he will not keep us safe.
RUBIN: She is saying what everyone knows, no one believes the federal government is doing their job, border agents don't like to be a travel agent, you can go to Chicago. The democrat party, one of your few jobs dude.
Dave, this alleged Host is stumped by question turned against her? Where did that happen exactly? Here is what happened, Noem shared her made up feelings that Biden has done nothing with tools and policy, and then Rubin shared his made-up feelings that no one believes the federal government is doing their job and border agents are forced to act as travel agents. At somewhere around the 80th percentile for gullibility you become a Rubin believer.
Rubin and his fans aren't really fans of facts, but:
WHAT TRUMP DID: In March 2020, at the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, the Trump administration invoked Title 42, a controversial statute ostensibly meant as a public health measure. The policy allowed US authorities to swiftly expel migrants - including asylum seekers - at the border.
Nearly 400,000 people were detained and expelled between its implementation and January 2021, when Mr Trump left the White House.
WHAT BIDEN DID: He defended keeping Title 42 in place, using the pandemic as justification. Over 2.28 million people were expelled using Title 42 authority between January 2021 and March 2023, the last month for which data is available. But when the US ended its coronavirus public health emergency on May 11, Title 42 expired with it. To replace it, US immigration authorities unveiled a "carrot and stick" approach that encourages legal pathways, while also implementing strict penalties for those who cross illegally. They have opened regional processing centres in Latin America aimed at helping migrants apply to come to the US and expanded access to CBP One, an app migrants can use to schedule asylum appointments. People who cross illegally will be deported, barred from re-entering the US for at least five years, and be "presumed ineligible for asylum", according to Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
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Pretenderson at 40:00 talking about antifa, 'how many people identifiable, who the hell are they, are they right or left, 800 antifa, then they don't exist, does it exist, they are agents of chaos, to sow discord, how to we protect ourselves, that is the endless question of the human race, men are less agreeable, women like disagreeable men, women chose their mates, the more disagreeable you are the less compassionate and generous you are, why do women pick disagreeable men, in one city they had a summer of love, so everyone is agreeable, do the psychopaths come out at night, agreeable people share, women have to protect their infants, they need men who can guard, if a man is too masculine they can't communicate, you have to hold the psychopaths down, they are at 3%, the Left says hierarchies are nothing but power, tough men are tougher than tough women, are we going to look at this straightforward and clearly?'
[Holy crap Dave, did Peterson just claim he is looking at this straightforward and clearly, after a pointless, unstraightforward, unclear and chaotic rambling that goes from how many antifa there are to women are more agreeable to the summer of love? Help me out Dave, reply to this comment. What precisely is Peterson's point here? Antifa exists or it doesn't exist? Women are more agreeable? I don't think that is true and of course it has absolutely nothing to do with antifa. The Left says hierarchies are nothing but power? Not true. JP made that up. How many Peterson's does it take to unscrew a lightbulb? One, but he does it by rotating the entire house in the opposite direction.]
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Is Rubin joking? JP most important speech? Dave? Please timestamp and quote an important and useful idea by JP anywhere in this entire video. Good luck. Well the most important speech JP has ever made; not a very high bar.
'Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...'
'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
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NOEM: What has he done, what has he done, he has done nothing with tools and policy, he doesn't let us do our job, he will not keep us safe.
RUBIN: She is saying what everyone knows, no one believes the federal government is doing their job, border agents don't like to be a travel agent, you can go to Chicago. The democrat party, one of your few jobs dude.
Dave, this alleged Host is stumped by question turned against her? Where did that happen exactly? Here is what happened, Noem shared her made up feelings that Biden has done nothing with tools and policy, and then Rubin shared his made-up feelings that no one believes the federal government is doing their job and border agents are forced to act as travel agents. At somewhere around the 80th percentile for gullibility you become a Rubin believer.
Rubin and his fans aren't really fans of facts, but:
WHAT TRUMP DID: In March 2020, at the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, the Trump administration invoked Title 42, a controversial statute ostensibly meant as a public health measure. The policy allowed US authorities to swiftly expel migrants - including asylum seekers - at the border.
Nearly 400,000 people were detained and expelled between its implementation and January 2021, when Mr Trump left the White House.
WHAT BIDEN DID: He defended keeping Title 42 in place, using the pandemic as justification. Over 2.28 million people were expelled using Title 42 authority between January 2021 and March 2023, the last month for which data is available. But when the US ended its coronavirus public health emergency on May 11, Title 42 expired with it. To replace it, US immigration authorities unveiled a "carrot and stick" approach that encourages legal pathways, while also implementing strict penalties for those who cross illegally. They have opened regional processing centres in Latin America aimed at helping migrants apply to come to the US and expanded access to CBP One, an app migrants can use to schedule asylum appointments. People who cross illegally will be deported, barred from re-entering the US for at least five years, and be "presumed ineligible for asylum", according to Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
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@MatthewC137 Try this; quote a coherent, intellectual, profound, insightful, useful idea by JP on any subject anywhere. I am on the edge of my seat. Here are some non-examples:
Jordan's 13th Rule; We don't understand consciousness, we don't know where it fits in the cosmos.
[Jordan, how about not projecting your personal confusion about consciousness on to everyone else?]
Jordan's 14th Rule; How do you arrange books? Using the axiomatic structure of your a priori perceptions manifesting as self evident fact to your ignorant mind.
Jordan's 15 Rule; The best way for me to interact is individual to individual and as if they are part of the process by which things we don't understand can yet be explored and by things that aren't properly organized in our society can yet be set right.
Jordan's 16th Rule; Free speech also is the mechanism by which we generate the conceptions that allow us to organize our experience in the world, it is the mechanism that allows us to reformulate and criticize those conceptions when they become outdated and sterile, to reanimate them in a new form so we can move into the future
Jordan's 17th Rule; There is no evidence that women can create social organizations.
Jordan's 18th Rule, Hard core clinical psychology research has determined that perception influences behavior.
[Yes Jordan, when I perceive I am thirsty my behavior is to go to the fridge for a drink.]
Jordan's 19th Rule; There is something to us. [Uh sure Jordan, a bit pointless and ambiguous however.]
Jordan's 20th Rule; I realized psychologically that the future is in a sense actually unpredictable.
[You needed psychology to figure that out Jordan? I figured it out without psychology.]
Jordan's 21 Rule: It is hard to get in to Harvard and it takes good SAT scores. [Yes Jordan, everyone already knows that.]
Jordan's 22 Rule: The world is not objects, it is the harmonious interplay of patterns, you dance with the world, you don't want a person who will dominate you sexually during the initial dance .
Jordan's 23 Rule: If you have a functional identity, when you act it out in the world you get what you want and need.
[I am pretty sure I have a function, and an identity, and I act out in the world, but merely wanting something is no promise that I will get it. Sorry Jordan If/Then logic failure on your part.]
Jordan's 24 Rule: I highly recommend that you try and put yourself together.
[Wow, I am totally going to do that now that you told me.]
Jordan's 25th Rule: The biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light of characterization on the spirit that occupies the pinnacle in the hierarchy of perception. [Huh?]
Jordan's 26th Rule: I have been thinking for 40 years and I realized that you have to prioritize your perceptions. Prioritize means some things are more important than others in a hierarchy. Does that hierarchy have to be unified or not. There is an immediate existential consequence to not having a hierarchy of perceptual priority. You need a hierarchy to filter the world and what is at the highest point of the hierarchy.
Jordan's 27th Rule: There are no models of animal industriousness, there is nothing random about dreams, no one advises a loved one to get an abortion, we don't have an overpopulation problem, the women's movement didn't advance women's rights, plenty of them are saying there should be no such thing as hierarchies, our hierarchies are of competence not power, no one knows that the world has improved in every way in the last 50 years including the environment, the West is an oppressive patriarchy but the West is not an oppressive patriarchy....
Jordan's 28th Rule: 'You want to fight the dragons that guard the gate to the treasure that you wish to attain, productivity requires aim and responsibility, discipline and willingness to work, it orients you solidly in the world and gives you a dragon to fight, do you want to be illiterate, you have to think, you can't build muscle at the gym unless you lift weights, face your being with the necessity of transformation, those are the dragons, you have to say to yourself 'I will do good.'
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@MatthewC137 The New York times said that? Which staff person? I agree, you can't find an intellectual idea by Peterson! JP is a fake intellectual. I am a real intellectual since I realize things that JP does not, for example that characterization is a precondition for individual freedom, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, cognitive systems have axiomatic levels, and compassion doesn't scale as you move up the hierarchy of complexity, and also that the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light on the hierarchy of perception. What faith means is that you act out the proposition that you can ride the wave as big as it comes, all together in good will. Canonical patterns of being for what we act out in the world, waves of behavioral patterns across time, no one in their right mind would argue that numbers are not true, there are stories about you and you and you and the human experience as such, the thing is the pattern of their being, the process has been occurring for thousands of years, a representation of the distillation of the process, fairy tales that are really old, cultures that don't change stay the same, while creatures with nervous systems watch each other.
Jordan Peterson JP doesn't have the intellectual ability I have, since I realize that the future is unpredictable technically, you are not a clockwork machine, what does free will mean, you are not a deterministic clockwork machine, I move my arm in a complex way, I set it up in a deterministic way, as we implement our actions the horizon of possibility collapses into a deterministic actuality, the farther out into the future, the less deterministic our perceptions necessarily become, you are a visionary, you have to reconfigure how you think scientifically, you think there are objects and you react to those objects, and that is not true, you don't see objects, none of that is true, you don't see objects you see patterns that are functional.
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@MatthewC137 JP is a fake intellectual. I am a real intellectual since I realize things that JP does not, for example that characterization is a precondition for individual freedom, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, cognitive systems have axiomatic levels, and compassion doesn't scale as you move up the hierarchy of complexity, and also that the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light on the hierarchy of perception. What faith means is that you act out the proposition that you can ride the wave as big as it comes, all together in good will. Canonical patterns of being for what we act out in the world, waves of behavioral patterns across time, no one in their right mind would argue that numbers are not true, there are stories about you and you and you and the human experience as such, the thing is the pattern of their being, the process has been occurring for thousands of years, a representation of the distillation of the process, fairy tales that are really old, cultures that don't change stay the same, while creatures with nervous systems watch each other.
Jordan Peterson JP doesn't have the intellectual ability I have, since I realize that the future is unpredictable technically, you are not a clockwork machine, what does free will mean, you are not a deterministic clockwork machine, I move my arm in a complex way, I set it up in a deterministic way, as we implement our actions the horizon of possibility collapses into a deterministic actuality, the farther out into the future, the less deterministic our perceptions necessarily become, you are a visionary, you have to reconfigure how you think scientifically, you think there are objects and you react to those objects, and that is not true, you don't see objects, none of that is true, you don't see objects you see patterns that are functional.
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@MatthewC137 Which NYT staff person said that? Was it fact checked like they do for every thing their staff submit? Grow a pair, and produce an intellectual idea by JP on any subject anywhere. Any of these?
Jordan's 13th Rule; We don't understand consciousness, we don't know where it fits in the cosmos.
[Jordan, how about not projecting your personal confusion about consciousness on to everyone else?]
Jordan's 14th Rule; How do you arrange books? Using the axiomatic structure of your a priori perceptions manifesting as self evident fact to your ignorant mind.
Jordan's 15 Rule; The best way for me to interact is individual to individual and as if they are part of the process by which things we don't understand can yet be explored and by things that aren't properly organized in our society can yet be set right.
Jordan's 16th Rule; Free speech also is the mechanism by which we generate the conceptions that allow us to organize our experience in the world, it is the mechanism that allows us to reformulate and criticize those conceptions when they become outdated and sterile, to reanimate them in a new form so we can move into the future
Jordan's 17th Rule; There is no evidence that women can create social organizations.
Jordan's 18th Rule, Hard core clinical psychology research has determined that perception influences behavior.
[Yes Jordan, when I perceive I am thirsty my behavior is to go to the fridge for a drink.]
Jordan's 19th Rule; There is something to us. [Uh sure Jordan, a bit pointless and ambiguous however.]
Jordan's 20th Rule; I realized psychologically that the future is in a sense actually unpredictable.
[You needed psychology to figure that out Jordan? I figured it out without psychology.]
Jordan's 21 Rule: It is hard to get in to Harvard and it takes good SAT scores. [Yes Jordan, everyone already knows that.]
Jordan's 22 Rule: The world is not objects, it is the harmonious interplay of patterns, you dance with the world, you don't want a person who will dominate you sexually during the initial dance .
Jordan's 23 Rule: If you have a functional identity, when you act it out in the world you get what you want and need.
[I am pretty sure I have a function, and an identity, and I act out in the world, but merely wanting something is no promise that I will get it. Sorry Jordan If/Then logic failure on your part.]
Jordan's 24 Rule: I highly recommend that you try and put yourself together.
[Wow, I am totally going to do that now that you told me.]
Jordan's 25th Rule: The biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light of characterization on the spirit that occupies the pinnacle in the hierarchy of perception. [Huh?]
Jordan's 26th Rule: I have been thinking for 40 years and I realized that you have to prioritize your perceptions. Prioritize means some things are more important than others in a hierarchy. Does that hierarchy have to be unified or not. There is an immediate existential consequence to not having a hierarchy of perceptual priority. You need a hierarchy to filter the world and what is at the highest point of the hierarchy.
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@Kipperbob Like I said, as a blind conservative JP ideologue I can predict what you say before you say it; You feel he has great skills at dissecting complex ideas...you just don't know where that happened. You feel you have read the JP literature but you can't quote a single idea by Peterson that supports your beliefs. I am the one with evidence and you have none...and you conclude I am the ignorant one? I can predict that response from you also.
LMK if you have any evidence whatsoever. Watch how I do it.
Let's check out Dr. Potaterson at 10:00: 'Climate change is the biggest health issue of our time, No, overreaching beaurocrats are, China is building nuclear reactors, we can't get our act together to build nuclear in the US, if you are concerned about the poor and the environment you make power as cheap as possible because there is no difference between energy and wealth, there is a bit of the problem getting rid of the waste, save the climate by making power as cheap as possible, as CO2 levels rise plants can grow more in drier environments, I read 200 books what I learned was things are way better than everyone thinks, the biggest environmental problem is over fishing in the ocean...
[Help me out Dave, haven't you claimed that JP is some kind of intellectual? What is even remotely intellectual about any of this? There is a bit of a problem getting rid of nuclear waste? Sure Jordan, half life of cancer causing mineral of 50,000 years, a BIT of a problem? We can't get out act together for nuclear in the US? Wrong Jordan, we made an environmental and safety issue to limit new nuclear. You can help the poor by making energy as cheap as possible? Wrong, energy cost is not the biggest part of someone's budget. And making energy cheap helps the environment? Wrong again, cheap energy tends to result in more driving, more air conditioning, more manufacturing, and more consumerism; all at the bottom of the pyramid for environmental damage. Remember when you claim to use multi variate analysis? So why are you over simplifying to 'energy is everything' here? There is no difference between energy and wealth, and climate and everything are the same word? This guy seriously needs a vocabulary lesson and instruction in basic logic. Over reaching beaurocrats are the biggest health issue? Heads up Jordan, do a google search for Covid 19 and bring yourself up to speed with what everyone else in the world has known for the last two years.]
Pretenderson at 40:00 talking about antifa, 'how many people identifiable, who the hell are they, are they right or left, 800 antifa, then they don't exist, does it exist, they are agents of chaos, to sow discord, how to we protect ourselves, that is the endless question of the human race, men are less agreeable, women like disagreeable men, women chose their mates, the more disagreeable you are the less compassionate and generous you are, why do women pick disagreeable men, in one city they had a summer of love, so everyone is agreeable, do the psychopaths come out at night, agreeable people share, women have to protect their infants, they need men who can guard, if a man is too masculine they can't communicate, you have to hold the psychopaths down, they are at 3%, the Left says hierarchies are nothing but power, tough men are tougher than tough women, are we going to look at this straightforward and clearly?'
[Holy crap Dave, did Peterson just claim he is looking at this straightforward and clearly, after a pointless, unstraightforward, unclear and chaotic rambling that goes from how many antifa there are to women are more agreeable to the summer of love? Help me out Dave, reply to this comment. What precisely is Peterson's point here? Antifa exists or it doesn't exist? Women are more agreeable? I don't think that is true and of course it has absolutely nothing to do with antifa. The Left says hierarchies are nothing but power? Not true. JP made that up. How many Peterson's does it take to unscrew a lightbulb? One, but he does it by rotating the entire house in the opposite direction.]
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@Max-jl2ie
20:00 We should have careful differentiated thoughtful thorough detail-oriented thinking that will produce solutions, there is no discussion about what are we aiming at here, how about copious energy that is clean for everyone, resilient stable systems...There is manure from cows, people go to the bathroom, there is not zero pollution...the only thing you should care about is cheap energy, what makes people prosperous and secure, work, what is work, it is the expenditure of energy, what is energy, work, what is work, wealth,
[What an absolute idiot, he claims we need thoughtful detailed solutions and his unthoughtful, undetailed, uncareful idea is lots of cheap energy? You just said you need well thought out detailed plans, and your well thought out detailed plan is how about clean energy and stable systems? There is no discussion about what we are aiming at? You just mentioned the aim one sentence ago; Net Zero. Heads up dork brain, the concept is Net Zero, not Zero]
[If you care about poor people, The only thing you should care about is cheap energy... Wrong. What makes people prosperous... work, wrong not if that work is at minimum wage. Work is the expenditure of energy - wrong. What is energy - work, wrong. What is work, wealth, wrong.]
Dave, If JP says a single accurate useful statement about anything in this entire interview, can you let me know where that is?
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@NiWdLES Compassion is a virtue, no one is arguing for treating adults like infants, straw man by Peterson, encouragement requires judgement, duh, no one is arguing it doesn't, another straw man by Peterson, love is complicated man? Wow, Jordan that is a deeply intellectual idea. Your turn, a profound intellectual coherent useful idea by Peterson in this or any other video, go...
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@C.is.for.Classified We are searching for a useful profound idea by JP, no one can find one.
JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that we do not understand pre-experimental thinking, so we try to explain it in terms that we do understand – which means that we explain it away, define it as nonsense. After all, we think scientifically – so we believe – and we think we know what that means (since scientific thinking can in principle be defined). We are familiar with scientific thinking, and value it highly – so we tend to presume that that is all there is to thinking (that all other “forms of thought” are approximations, at best, to the ideal of scientific thought).
But this is not accurate. Thinking also and more fundamentally is specification of value – is specification of implication for behavior. This means that categorization, with regards to value –determination (or even perception) of what constitutes a single thing, or class of things – is the act of grouping together according to implication for behavior. Do you agree?
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@C.is.for.Classified I am pretty sure that the best way for me to interact is individual to individual and as if they are part of the process by which things we don't understand can yet be explored and by things that aren't properly organized in our society can yet be set right and free speech also is the mechanism by which we generate the conceptions that allow us to organize our experience in the world, it is the mechanism that allows us to reformulate and criticize those conceptions when they become outdated and sterile, to reanimate them in a new form so we can move into the future. The principles are good, what is the underlying meta principle, orient to the highest good, towards good, and be nice to other people, the divine spirit that unites us with other people that is what the monotheistic tendency tilts towards portray psychologically, if your principles are coherent then there is a meta principle that unites them, what is that meta principle and how do you conduct yourself, there is a moral element that shapes your behavior. [Do you agree?]
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@Nonreligeousthiestic I am pretty sure that the best way for me to interact is individual to individual and as if they are part of the process by which things we don't understand can yet be explored and by things that aren't properly organized in our society can yet be set right and free speech also is the mechanism by which we generate the conceptions that allow us to organize our experience in the world, it is the mechanism that allows us to reformulate and criticize those conceptions when they become outdated and sterile, to reanimate them in a new form so we can move into the future. The principles are good, what is the underlying meta principle, orient to the highest good, towards good, and be nice to other people, the divine spirit that unites us with other people that is what the monotheistic tendency tilts towards portray psychologically, if your principles are coherent then there is a meta principle that unites them, what is that meta principle and how do you conduct yourself, there is a moral element that shapes your behavior. [Do you agree?]
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@annarodriguez9868 Let's plug into DR. Pretendhead at 7:00. 'There is nothing behind it but the most instrumentally and cowardly random polling, how do you get accurate polling data, how did you construct the questions...
Let's jump to 30:00: 'Don't screw it up with facile criticism, you have to do a detailed analysis, where is it procedurally going wrong the whole thing needs to be burned to the ground, people don't want a detailed analysis of the problem, it is heuristics, you are not seeing me, I am not there, you don't see my cellular structure, what is the job, a heuristic turns into a bias, you don't know what you don't know, people who want to fix the power system they don't know how to do home wiring, I worked on a committee and they kept my changes...
[OK so guy who complains about facile criticism spends an hour giving us facile criticism like people don't want a detailed analysis, there is cowardly random polling, and people can't see his cellular structure, and someone who can't install home wiring may have any idea to improve efficient and cleaner use of electricity? Dave, help me out here, why are you nodding at Peterson's heuristic nonsense from start to finish?]
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Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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@ronjon5241 JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder, the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...also that you think so that your stupid thoughts can die instead of you. At the upper end of a hierarchy, you find people who know a lot, if you are stupid, smart people won't listen to you, so you can inform yourself with tools and you won't be an embarrassment, the careless self-evident axiom of human social interaction is that if I can force you to do something then I have the right to do it.
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Is Rubin joking? JP most important speech? Dave? Please timestamp and quote an important and useful idea by JP anywhere in this entire video. Good luck. Well, the most important speech JP has ever made; not a very high bar.
'Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...'
'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
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20:00 We should have careful differentiated thoughtful thorough detail-oriented thinking that will produce solutions, there is no discussion about what are we aiming at here, how about copious energy that is clean for everyone, resilient stable systems...There is manure from cows, people go to the bathroom, there is not zero pollution...the only thing you should care about is cheap energy, what makes people prosperous and secure, work, what is work, it is the expenditure of energy, what is energy, work, what is work, wealth,
[What an absolute idiot, he claims we need thoughtful detailed solutions and his unthoughtful, undetailed, uncareful idea is lots of cheap energy? You just said you need well thought out detailed plans, and your well thought out detailed plan is how about clean energy and stable systems? There is no discussion about what we are aiming at? You just mentioned the aim one sentence ago; Net Zero. Heads up dork brain, the concept is Net Zero, not Zero]
[If you care about poor people, The only thing you should care about is cheap energy... Wrong. What makes people prosperous... work, wrong not if that work is at minimum wage. Work is the expenditure of energy - wrong. What is energy - work, wrong. What is work, wealth, wrong.]
Dave, If JP says a single accurate useful statement about anything in this entire interview, can you let me know where that is?
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An impressive amount of nonsense packed into 24:00 minutes. Important isn't the word I would use Dave. Easily the Most _________________ Speech JP has ever done.
'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
Let's see what to put in the blank. Rambling Self Absorbed Nonsensical. Dave? Can you edit the title?
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@candaniel2 You found a coherent sensible idea? Cool, can I see one?
Consciousness is a world engendering force, without it the cosmos as such would not exist....you become what you practice...to be out of concordance with reality you think of the totalitarian impulse underneath....a journey outside of language outside of linguistic certainty...an over emphasis on certainty puts you in a prison that bars you from a well...sacred implies deep...no one disputes the proposition that some stories are deeper than others...movement in a direction that is better than what you know, is there is anything that could possibly more fervently hoped for than that, the amount of evil that is a result of our moral insufficiency is indeterminate.
Winning a championship and winning a game are not the same thing. We don't know how we manage the active perception, perceiving the world turns out to be way more complicated than anyone ever imagined, we think there are objects out there and we just see them. Clinical psychology research has determined that if you set goals and strive for goals you may achieve them... Jordan Peterson.
[Doesn't this guy claim to be some sort of intellectual? Perceiving the world is complicated for us? It's complicated for you Jordan, but don't project your personal confusion on to everyone else.]
[Apparently people hope to move towards something better. Wow. Put some big words in a blender, pour them onto a spinning fan, walla, a Peterson speech.]
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@Rich.L-J_KZN
20:00 We should have careful differentiated thoughtful thorough detail-oriented thinking that will produce solutions, there is no discussion about what are we aiming at here, how about copious energy that is clean for everyone, resilient stable systems...There is manure from cows, people go to the bathroom, there is not zero pollution...the only thing you should care about is cheap energy, what makes people prosperous and secure, work, what is work, it is the expenditure of energy, what is energy, work, what is work, wealth,
[What an absolute idiot, he claims we need thoughtful detailed solutions and his unthoughtful, undetailed, uncareful idea is lots of cheap energy? You just said you need well thought out detailed plans, and your well thought out detailed plan is how about clean energy and stable systems? There is no discussion about what we are aiming at? You just mentioned the aim one sentence ago; Net Zero. Heads up dork brain, the concept is Net Zero, not Zero]
[If you care about poor people, The only thing you should care about is cheap energy... Wrong. What makes people prosperous... work, wrong not if that work is at minimum wage. Work is the expenditure of energy - wrong. What is energy - work, wrong. What is work, wealth, wrong.]
Dave, If JP says a single accurate useful statement about anything in this entire interview, can you let me know where that is?
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An impressive amount of nonsense packed into 24:00 minutes. Important isn't the word I would use Dave. Easily the Most _________________ Speech JP has ever done.
'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
Let's see what to put in the blank. Rambling Self Absorbed Nonsensical. Dave? Can you edit the title?
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JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder, the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...also that you think so that your stupid thoughts can die instead of you. At the upper end of a hierarchy, you find people who know a lot, if you are stupid, smart people won't listen to you, so you can inform yourself with tools and you won't be an embarrassment, the careless self-evident axiom of human social interaction is that if I can force you to do something then I have the right to do it.
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@Mag_W_ I agree, you can't find a coherent useful idea by JP in this video: Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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@danielevans5864 Pretenderson at 40:00 talking about antifa, 'how many people identifiable, who the hell are they, are they right or left, 800 antifa, then they don't exist, does it exist, they are agents of chaos, to sow discord, how to we protect ourselves, that is the endless question of the human race, men are less agreeable, women like disagreeable men, women chose their mates, the more disagreeable you are the less compassionate and generous you are, why do women pick disagreeable men, in one city they had a summer of love, so everyone is agreeable, do the psychopaths come out at night, agreeable people share, women have to protect their infants, they need men who can guard, if a man is too masculine they can't communicate, you have to hold the psychopaths down, they are at 3%, the Left says hierarchies are nothing but power, tough men are tougher than tough women, are we going to look at this straightforward and clearly?'
[Holy crap Dave, did Peterson just claim he is looking at this straightforward and clearly, after a pointless, unstraightforward, unclear and chaotic rambling that goes from how many antifa there are to women are more agreeable to the summer of love? Help me out Dave, reply to this comment. What precisely is Peterson's point here? Antifa exists or it doesn't exist? Women are more agreeable? I don't think that is true and of course it has absolutely nothing to do with antifa. The Left says hierarchies are nothing but power? Not true. JP made that up. How many Peterson's does it take to unscrew a lightbulb? One, but he does it by rotating the entire house in the opposite direction.]
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Peterson at 13:00 'The best way to save the planet is to make poor people rich as fast as we can...the biggest environmental issue facing us is over fishing...what does sustainable mean?...why should we care, how should we care? you have to prioritize, 200 goals is chaos, do you have a better idea, then what good is your criticism...'
[Wait, is Peterson, a guy who never has a solution to anything trying to rip on people who criticize with no better ideas? Pretty funny. The biggest environmental issue facing us is over fishing? No it isn't. The only result of over fishing is there are too few fish, who will of course replenish within a generation. The best way to save the planet is to make everyone rich? This guy is so totally full of crap. Environmental problems are caused by consumerism, which is a direct byproduct of wealth. What does sustainable mean? It means Jordan that the rate of consumption equals the rate of replacement. In another section Jordan says that the best way to solve pollution in India is to burn more coal. What is a guy who claims we don't have an over population problem doing projecting to solve problems in India when their entire problem is over population?
How about this Dave, lets do a debate with me, Jordan, and you and discuss actual solutions. HMU, anytime.]
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Peterson said something intelligent? What? We should have careful differentiated thoughtful thorough detail-oriented thinking that will produce solutions, there is no discussion about what are we aiming at here, how about copious energy that is clean for everyone, resilient stable systems...There is manure from cows, people go to the bathroom, there is not zero pollution
[What an absolute idiot, he claims we need thoughtful detailed solutions and his unthoughtful, undetailed, uncareful idea is lots of cheap energy? You just said you need well thought out detailed plans, and your well thought out detailed plan is how about clean energy and stable systems? There is no discussion about what we are aiming at? You just mentioned the aim one sentence ago; Net Zero. Heads up dork brain, the concept is Net Zero, not Zero]
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Mr. Pretenderhead at 36:00. 'Tech companies are trying deliver something you will attend to, AI machines that will analyze your eye movements, to see what you are looking at, they are trying to figure out what you want and deliver it to you fast, Can we trust us, not if we are lying, that makes misinformation, the naked desire for power, the systems get contaminated, look what we are doing, you and I are having a conversation that will be distributed, its a miracle, translators work on my YT content, its very hard to translate YT to other languages, it hasn't been thought through, there is a real time translator, this is unbelievable...this over simplification and demonization has to stop... I talked to democrats who think antifa is illusory, but who think there is a conspiratory force on the right.'
[The king of over simplification and demonizing thinks we need to stop that, and in the very next sentence he over simplifies and demonizes democrats who think antifa is illusory and right wing conspiracy is real? Whoops dude. And how did he get from tech companies trying to sell us stuff, duh, to antifa in three sentences? Peterson is amazed at YouTube? Hasn't it been around for like 20 years? If you are lying you are spreading misinformation? This guy's genius is seriously off the charts. It's very hard to translate other languages but there is a real time translator? This guys brain is such total chaos. Dave; a coherent point anywhere in this video? Give me a nudge when you find it.]
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@markbarger1791 Jordan's 13th Rule; We don't understand consciousness, we don't know where it fits in the cosmos.
[Jordan, how about not projecting your personal confusion about consciousness on to everyone else?]
Jordan's 14th Rule; How do you arrange books? Using the axiomatic structure of your a priori perceptions manifesting as self evident fact to your ignorant mind.
Jordan's 15 Rule; The best way to interact is individual to individual and as if they are part of the process by which things we don't understand can yet be explored and by things that aren't properly organized in our society can yet be set right.
Jordan's 16th Rule; Free speech also is the mechanism by which we generate the conceptions that allow us to organize our experience in the world, it is the mechanism that allows us to reformulate and criticize those conceptions when they become outdated and sterile, to reanimate them in a new form so we can move into the future.
Jordan's 17th Rule; Good relationships have a high percentage of positive interactions.
Jordan's 18th Rule, Hard core clinical psychology research has determined that perception influences behavior.
[Yes Jordan, when I perceive I am thirsty my behavior is to go to the fridge for a drink.]
Jordan's 19th Rule; There is something to us. [Uh sure Jordan, a bit pointless and ambiguous however.]
Jordan's 20th Rule; I realized psychologically that the future is in a sense actually unpredictable.
[You needed psychology to figure that out Jordan? I figured it out without psychology.]
Jordan's 21 Rule: It is hard to get in to Harvard and it takes good SAT scores. [Yes Jordan, everyone already knows that.]
Jordan's 22 Rule: The world is not objects, it is the harmonious interplay of patterns, you dance with the world, you don't want a person who will dominate you sexually during the initial dance .
Jordan's 23 Rule: If you have a functional identity, when you act it out in the world you get what you want and need.
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@Wooptidoodoo Maybe JP's self appointed explainer of the world ego is actually a cry for help. But again, any spot in this interview where JP is trying to learn rather than acting like we need him to explain the world to the rest of us.
Randomly at 16:00 with these two pretend smart guys; The climate conferences, we have to sacrifice, Obama bought a 15 million house.
"There are hierarchies of competence and corrupted by power, how much, we should clean them up, to fix them, illness and death climb from the bottom up, psycho-physiologically easer at the top, we double energy cost old poor people die, which side are you on Leftists?, are you going to sacrifice the poor, there is no consensus in science...people go to the bathroom so there is no zero pollution, it is not detailed solutions, copious energy for everyone, you should only care about cheap energy if you are on the Left, what is work, energy is everything...the US has cut CO2 14% because of fracking..."
So Rubin describes this as: Looking for smart and honest conversations ...increase your critical thinking by listening to different perspectives on a variety of topics? If so, then you’re in the right place because ... the ideas of some of society's most interesting thought leaders, authors, politicians and comedians.
Rubin is calling JP a critical thinking thought leader? How the hell did JP get from sacrifice for climate change to hierarchies and competence? Because he can't go more than a couple paragraphs without leaning on his go to phrases, competence hierarchies and tyrannical patriarchy.
]There is no consensus in science...from a non-scientist, please Jordan, stay in your lane. People don't have detailed solutions -- from a guy who never has a solution to anything. You should only care about cheap energy if you are on the Left? What a total idiot. Did he forget he is talking about reducing CO2 levels? Energy consumption is where CO2 comes from dork. Peterson's claim about CO2 reduction is also incorrect. The levels have stayed about the same since 1990, influenced more by cleaner burning cars than more fracking.]
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@faceplants2 Peterson made a smart clear intellectual point? In this video? Can you timestamp it? Thanks.
Randomly at 16:00 with these two pretend smart guys; The climate conferences, we have to sacrifice, Obama bought a 15 million house.
"There are hierarchies of competence and corrupted by power, how much, we should clean them up, to fix them, illness and death climb from the bottom up, psycho-physiologically easer at the top, we double energy cost old poor people die, which side are you on Leftists?, are you going to sacrifice the poor, there is no consensus in science...people go to the bathroom so there is no zero pollution, it is not detailed solutions, copious energy for everyone, you should only care about cheap energy if you are on the Left, what is work, energy is everything...the US has cut CO2 14% because of fracking..."
So Rubin describes this as: Looking for smart and honest conversations ...increase your critical thinking by listening to different perspectives on a variety of topics? If so, then you’re in the right place because ... the ideas of some of society's most interesting thought leaders, authors, politicians and comedians.
Rubin is calling JP a critical thinking thought leader? How the hell did JP get from sacrifice for climate change to hierarchies and competence? Because he can't go more than a couple paragraphs without leaning on his go to phrases, competence hierarchies and tyrannical patriarchy.
There is no consensus in science...from a non-scientist, please Jordan, stay in your lane. People don't have detailed solutions -- from a guy who never has a solution to anything. You should only care about cheap energy if you are on the Left? What a total idiot. Did he forget he is talking about reducing CO2 levels? Energy consumption is where CO2 comes from dork. Peterson's claim about CO2 reduction is also incorrect. The levels have stayed about the same since 1990, influenced more by cleaner burning cars than more fracking.
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@Aeneas-aojb Peterson has a climate change idea? What? BTW that I criticize his ideas is absolutely irrelevant to the fact that he routinely appoints himself to explain the world to us.
I repeat: Timestamp and quote a spot in this video where Peterson states an accurate and useful idea where he is not attempting to show that he has things figured out better than everyone else, i.e. self appointed explainer of the world.
Use evidence, like this:
Randomly at 16:00 with these two pretend smart guys; The climate conferences, we have to sacrifice, Obama bought a 15 million house.
"There are hierarchies of competence and corrupted by power, how much, we should clean them up, to fix them, illness and death climb from the bottom up, psycho-physiologically easer at the top, we double energy cost old poor people die, which side are you on Leftists?, are you going to sacrifice the poor, there is no consensus in science...people go to the bathroom so there is no zero pollution, it is not detailed solutions, copious energy for everyone, you should only care about cheap energy if you are on the Left, what is work, energy is everything...the US has cut CO2 14% because of fracking..."
So Rubin describes this as: Looking for smart and honest conversations ...increase your critical thinking by listening to different perspectives on a variety of topics? If so, then you’re in the right place because ... the ideas of some of society's most interesting thought leaders, authors, politicians and comedians.
Rubin is calling JP a critical thinking thought leader? How the hell did JP get from sacrifice for climate change to hierarchies and competence? Because he can't go more than a couple paragraphs without leaning on his go to phrases, competence hierarchies and tyrannical patriarchy.
There is no consensus in science...from a non-scientist, please Jordan, stay in your lane. People don't have detailed solutions -- from a guy who never has a solution to anything. You should only care about cheap energy if you are on the Left? What a total idiot. Did he forget he is talking about reducing CO2 levels? Energy consumption is where CO2 comes from dork. Peterson's claim about CO2 reduction is also incorrect. The levels have stayed about the same since 1990, influenced more by cleaner burning cars than more fracking.
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@Aeneas-aojb Ok. We may agree that JP has not insightful useful theory.
A. I am simply saying that you cannot use your disagreement to infer that he has appointed himself as a self-explainer of the world. [non sequitir, the two concepts are unrelated.]
B. I am saying that your criticisms of his motivations specifically are misguided. You are claiming to have some insight on his character and you clearly do not....I’ve watched enough of his content to see that this is not his motivation. He has not only said that he is interested in learning and speaking the truth about what he thinks, but he also acts that out as far as I’ve seen, and I’ve seen quite a bit of his content. [So you know his motivation and I do not? ]
C. Every thing I have ever heard JP is him explaining the world to us. Find a spot that supports your OP, he wants to learn not win.
Consciousness is a world engendering force, without it the cosmos as such would not exist....you become what you practice...to be out of concordance with reality you think of the totalitarian impulse underneath....a journey outside of language outside of linguistic certainty...an over emphasis on certainty puts you in a prison that bars you from a well...sacred implies deep...no one disputes the proposition that some stories are deeper than others...movement in a direction that is better than what you know, is there is anything that could possibly more fervently hoped for than that, the amount of evil that is a result of our moral insufficiency is indeterminate. Agreeableness negatively predicts success in the workplace. It is foolish to credit the woman's movement for advances in women's rights. Our hierarchies are of competence not power.
Winning a championship and winning a game are not the same thing. We don't know how we manage the active perception, perceiving the world turns out to be way more complicated than anyone ever imagined, we think there are objects out there and we just see them. Clinical psychology research has determined that if you set goals and strive for goals you may achieve them... Jordan Peterson, self appointed explainer of the world.
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@faceplants2 Note JP's strawman argument against zero emissions. Heads up Jordan, no one is arguing for zero emissions, the issue is NET ZERO. See the difference?
"There are hierarchies of competence and corrupted by power, how much, we should clean them up, to fix them, illness and death climb from the bottom up, psycho-physiologically easer at the top, we double energy cost old poor people die, which side are you on Leftists?, are you going to sacrifice the poor, there is no consensus in science...people go to the bathroom so there is no zero pollution, it is not detailed solutions, copious energy for everyone, you should only care about cheap energy if you are on the Left, what is work, energy is everything...the US has cut CO2 14% because of fracking..."
So Rubin describes this as: Looking for smart and honest conversations ...increase your critical thinking by listening to different perspectives on a variety of topics? If so, then you’re in the right place because ... the ideas of some of society's most interesting thought leaders, authors, politicians and comedians.
Rubin is calling JP a critical thinking thought leader? How the hell did JP get from sacrifice for climate change to hierarchies and competence? Because he can't go more than a couple paragraphs without leaning on his go to phrases, competence hierarchies and tyrannical patriarchy.
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@dreamingmusic3299 See you feel JP is an intellectual but you have no evidence that he is. That makes you one of those blind zombie cult fans. If you stumble across an intellectual statement by JP, lmk.
SKALVAN INTERVIEW:
At 13:55 JP 'Chaos is the uncertainty of the meaning of life and how people feel about their position in the world...we have an instinct for meaning, when what we are doing is working, we are advancing ourselves, good athletes have practiced and they try to get better.. [So Peterson has realized that good athletes have practiced a lot to get good, and they are still trying to get better? Thank you Jordan.]
I am trying to help people understand that this meaning is a true phenomena, and meaning comes with responsibility, people don't understand... [People don't understand that meaning and responsibility are good things? What people? Apparently JP thinks that People wander through life with no meaning and no responsibility, and by simply telling them that there is meaning in responsibility will awaken them? I personally am not that confused, nor can a fortune cookie platitude inspire me to get my life together. But I guess there are people like that, in a blind zombie cult who think a guy who tells them that Olympic and NBA/NFL athletes actually practice is a form of wisdom. Whatever.]
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Let's plug into DR. Pretendhead at 7:00. 'There is nothing behind it but the most instrumentally and cowardly random polling, how do you get accurate polling data, how did you construct the questions...
Let's jump to 30:00: 'Don't screw it up with facile criticism, you have to do a detailed analysis, where is it procedurally going wrong the whole thing needs to be burned to the ground, people don't want a detailed analysis of the problem, it is heuristics, you are not seeing me, I am not there, you don't see my cellular structure, what is the job, a heuristic turns into a bias, you don't know what you don't know, people who want to fix the power system they don't know how to do home wiring, I worked on a committee and they kept my changes...
[OK so guy who complains about facile criticism spends an hour giving us facile criticism like people don't want a detailed analysis, there is cowardly random polling, and people can't see his cellular structure, and someone who can't install home wiring may have any idea to improve efficient and cleaner use of electricity? Dave, help me out here, why are you nodding at Peterson's heuristic nonsense from start to finish?]
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Let's plug in to JP at 5:00; I don't like a bill of rights, my father isn't vaccinated, there is nothing behind it except cowardly random polling, do you poll every minute, if you are not vaccinated you can't leave Canada, I have to get tested, I think that vaccinated are less contagious, the least trusted institutions include big pharma, the Left is now trust big pharma, for health and safety is good, climate change is not a big challenge.... then Rubin says he has honest conversation and not on stop yelling...uh wait didn't we just listen to non stop yelling by JP?
JP doesn't like the Bill of Rights? Like free speech and freedom of religion? A core question though is why is JP lecturing on science, medicine. and the environment? The guy isn't a scientist. He claims our biggest environmental challenge is over fishing in the ocean. No it isn't Jordan, not even close. Apparently Peterson is trying to make the claim that big pharma are the ones mandating the restrictions. Only the ultra gullible fall for that argument.
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@YourPersonalBoogeymanDJT JP is a fake intellectual. I am a real intellectual since I realize things that JP does not, for example that characterization is a precondition for individual freedom, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, cognitive systems have axiomatic levels, and compassion doesn't scale as you move up the hierarchy of complexity, and also that the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light on the hierarchy of perception. What faith means is that you act out the proposition that you can ride the wave as big as it comes, all together in good will. Canonical patterns of being for what we act out in the world, waves of behavioral patterns across time, no one in their right mind would argue that numbers are not true, there are stories about you and you and you and the human experience as such, the thing is the pattern of their being, the process has been occurring for thousands of years, a representation of the distillation of the process, and now about fairy tales that are really old, cultures that don't change stay the same, while creatures with nervous systems watch each other.
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@leesa3140 'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
Let's see what to put in the blank. 'Rambling Self Absorbed Nonsensical.' Dave? Can you edit the title?
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JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder, the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...also that you think so that your stupid thoughts can die instead of you. At the upper end of a hierarchy, you find people who know a lot, if you are stupid, smart people won't listen to you, so you can inform yourself with tools and you won't be an embarrassment, the careless self-evident axiom of human social interaction is that if I can force you to do something then I have the right to do it.
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@yt.damian Google the word intellectual or use your own definition. Peterson had an insight you didn't already know? What? JP is a fake intellectual. I am a real intellectual since I realize things that JP does not, for example that characterization is a precondition for individual freedom, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, cognitive systems have axiomatic levels, and compassion doesn't scale as you move up the hierarchy of complexity, and also that the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light on the hierarchy of perception. What faith means is that you act out the proposition that you can ride the wave as big as it comes, all together in good will. Canonical patterns of being for what we act out in the world, waves of behavioral patterns across time, no one in their right mind would argue that numbers are not true, there are stories about you and you and you and the human experience as such, the thing is the pattern of their being, the process has been occurring for thousands of years, a representation of the distillation of the process, fairy tales that are really old, cultures that don't change stay the same, while creatures with nervous systems watch each other.
Jordan Peterson JP doesn't have the intellectual ability I have, since I realize that the future is unpredictable technically, you are not a clockwork machine, what does free will mean, you are not a deterministic clockwork machine, I move my arm in a complex way, I set it up in a deterministic way, as we implement our actions the horizon of possibility collapses into a deterministic actuality, the farther out into the future, the less deterministic our perceptions necessarily become, you are a visionary, you have to reconfigure how you think scientifically, you think there are objects and you react to those objects, and that is not true, you don't see objects, none of that is true, you don't see objects you see patterns that are functional.
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@wstavis3135 I agree. You can't find an intellectual idea by Peterson. Did you know that highly trained affective neuroscientists recognize that there is biological and behavioral continuity between humans and animals? Uh thanks Jordan, but third graders know that also. I thought about it psychologically and realized that the future is technically unpredictable. You needed psychology to figure out that the future is unpredictable Jordan? JP is a fake intellectual. I am a real intellectual since I realize things that JP does not, for example that characterization is a precondition for individual freedom, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, cognitive systems have axiomatic levels, and compassion doesn't scale as you move up the hierarchy of complexity, and also that the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light on the hierarchy of perception. What faith means is that you act out the proposition that you can ride the wave as big as it comes, all together in good will. Canonical patterns of being for what we act out in the world, waves of behavioral patterns across time, no one in their right mind would argue that numbers are not true, there are stories about you and you and you and the human experience as such, the thing is the pattern of their being, the process has been occurring for thousands of years, a representation of the distillation of the process, fairy tales that are really old, cultures that don't change stay the same, while creatures with nervous systems watch each other.
Jordan Peterson JP doesn't have the intellectual ability I have, since I realize that the future is unpredictable technically, you are not a clockwork machine, what does free will mean, you are not a deterministic clockwork machine, I move my arm in a complex way, I set it up in a deterministic way, as we implement our actions the horizon of possibility collapses into a deterministic actuality, the farther out into the future, the less deterministic our perceptions necessarily become, you are a visionary, you have to reconfigure how you think scientifically, you think there are objects and you react to those objects, and that is not true, you don't see objects, none of that is true, you don't see objects you see patterns that are functional.
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@wstavis3135 JP is a fake intellectual. I am a real intellectual since I realize things that JP does not, for example that characterization is a precondition for individual freedom, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, cognitive systems have axiomatic levels, and compassion doesn't scale as you move up the hierarchy of complexity, and also that the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light on the hierarchy of perception. What faith means is that you act out the proposition that you can ride the wave as big as it comes, all together in good will. Canonical patterns of being for what we act out in the world, waves of behavioral patterns across time, no one in their right mind would argue that numbers are not true, there are stories about you and you and you and the human experience as such, the thing is the pattern of their being, the process has been occurring for thousands of years, a representation of the distillation of the process, fairy tales that are really old, cultures that don't change stay the same, while creatures with nervous systems watch each other.
Jordan Peterson JP doesn't have the intellectual ability I have, since I realize that the future is unpredictable technically, you are not a clockwork machine, what does free will mean, you are not a deterministic clockwork machine, I move my arm in a complex way, I set it up in a deterministic way, as we implement our actions the horizon of possibility collapses into a deterministic actuality, the farther out into the future, the less deterministic our perceptions necessarily become, you are a visionary, you have to reconfigure how you think scientifically, you think there are objects and you react to those objects, and that is not true, you don't see objects, none of that is true, you don't see objects you see patterns that are functional.
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@wstavis3135 JP is a fake intellectual. I am a real intellectual since I realize things that JP does not, for example that characterization is a precondition for individual freedom, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, cognitive systems have axiomatic levels, and compassion doesn't scale as you move up the hierarchy of complexity, and also that the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light on the hierarchy of perception. What faith means is that you act out the proposition that you can ride the wave as big as it comes, all together in good will. Canonical patterns of being for what we act out in the world, waves of behavioral patterns across time, no one in their right mind would argue that numbers are not true, there are stories about you and you and you and the human experience as such, the thing is the pattern of their being, the process has been occurring for thousands of years, a representation of the distillation of the process, fairy tales that are really old, cultures that don't change stay the same, while creatures with nervous systems watch each other.
Jordan Peterson JP doesn't have the intellectual ability I have, since I realize that the future is unpredictable technically, you are not a clockwork machine, what does free will mean, you are not a deterministic clockwork machine, I move my arm in a complex way, I set it up in a deterministic way, as we implement our actions the horizon of possibility collapses into a deterministic actuality, the farther out into the future, the less deterministic our perceptions necessarily become, you are a visionary, you have to reconfigure how you think scientifically, you think there are objects and you react to those objects, and that is not true, you don't see objects, none of that is true, you don't see objects you see patterns that are functional.
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@wstavis3135 I agree, you can't find an intellectual idea by JP, however:
JP is a fake intellectual. I am a real intellectual since I realize things that JP does not, for example that characterization is a precondition for individual freedom, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, cognitive systems have axiomatic levels, and compassion doesn't scale as you move up the hierarchy of complexity, and also that the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light on the hierarchy of perception. What faith means is that you act out the proposition that you can ride the wave as big as it comes, all together in good will. Canonical patterns of being for what we act out in the world, waves of behavioral patterns across time, no one in their right mind would argue that numbers are not true, there are stories about you and you and you and the human experience as such, the thing is the pattern of their being, the process has been occurring for thousands of years, a representation of the distillation of the process, fairy tales that are really old, cultures that don't change stay the same, while creatures with nervous systems watch each other.
Jordan Peterson JP doesn't have the intellectual ability I have, since I realize that the future is unpredictable technically, you are not a clockwork machine, what does free will mean, you are not a deterministic clockwork machine, I move my arm in a complex way, I set it up in a deterministic way, as we implement our actions the horizon of possibility collapses into a deterministic actuality, the farther out into the future, the less deterministic our perceptions necessarily become, you are a visionary, you have to reconfigure how you think scientifically, you think there are objects and you react to those objects, and that is not true, you don't see objects, none of that is true, you don't see objects you see patterns that are functional.
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@wstavis3135 JP is a fake intellectual. I am a real intellectual since I realize things that JP does not, for example that characterization is a precondition for individual freedom, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, cognitive systems have axiomatic levels, and compassion doesn't scale as you move up the hierarchy of complexity, and also that the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light on the hierarchy of perception. What faith means is that you act out the proposition that you can ride the wave as big as it comes, all together in good will. Canonical patterns of being for what we act out in the world, waves of behavioral patterns across time, no one in their right mind would argue that numbers are not true, there are stories about you and you and you and the human experience as such, the thing is the pattern of their being, the process has been occurring for thousands of years, a representation of the distillation of the process, fairy tales that are really old, cultures that don't change stay the same, while creatures with nervous systems watch each other.
Jordan Peterson JP doesn't have the intellectual ability I have, since I realize that the future is unpredictable technically, you are not a clockwork machine, what does free will mean, you are not a deterministic clockwork machine, I move my arm in a complex way, I set it up in a deterministic way, as we implement our actions the horizon of possibility collapses into a deterministic actuality, the farther out into the future, the less deterministic our perceptions necessarily become, you are a visionary, you have to reconfigure how you think scientifically, you think there are objects and you react to those objects, and that is not true, you don't see objects, none of that is true, you don't see objects you see patterns that are functional.
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@house0paine535 Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder, the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...also that you think so that your stupid thoughts can die instead of you. At the upper end of a hierarchy, you find people who know a lot, if you are stupid, smart people won't listen to you, so you can inform yourself with tools and you won't be an embarrassment, the careless self-evident axiom of human social interaction is that if I can force you to do something then I have the right to do it.
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Peterson at 21:00 'People go to the bathroom there is not Zero pollution, net zero is an empty talking point, it is not careful thinking that produces a solution...' [Heads up Jordan no one is suggesting we can get to zero pollution, the stated goal is NET ZERO CO2. You are welcome for the lesson in basic logic and science. Careful thinking that produces a solution? Dave, has Jordan ever done that himself?]
'How about copious energy for everyone as clean as possible, resilient stable systems, the only thing you should care about is cheap energy, work makes people prosperous and secure, what is work, it is the expenditure of energy, what is energy, work wealth, energy is everything, US has knocked CO2 down by 14% in the last couple of decades because of fracking, war is not good for the environment...'
Jump to 34:00 'I rewrote sections of the document and my rewrites stuck, I did the work, they didn't have time to rewrite it, high end people are busy, they don't have time to analyze sustainable development goals...the only person trained to do it is Lomborg...'
[So JP's solution is lots of cheap energy for everyone? Does he have a magic wand to make this happen? Does he not realize that many of our environmental problems are related to energy consumption funding consumerism? What is work? Work is energy? I think JP is confusing work by people with the concept of work and energy in pure physics. Whoops. He wants to brag that he wrote sections that stuck? Maybe that happened, I will check it out. The other people didn't have time to analyze sustainable development goals? He knows this how? Literally every sentence out of his mouth is total nonsense, including that CO2 levels have dropped by 14% and that is due to fracking. The only person trained to analyze sustainable goals is Lomborg? Like in the entire world Jordan. Dave, help me out here, why are you nodding your head to this nonsense?]
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@smartbart80 An impressive amount of nonsense packed into 24:00 minutes. Important isn't the word I would use Dave. Easily the Most _______________ Speech JP has ever done.
'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
Let's see what to put in the blank. Rambling Self Absorbed Nonsensical. Dave? Can you edit the title?
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An impressive amount of nonsense packed into 24:00 minutes. Important isn't the word I would use Dave. Easily the Most _________________ Speech JP has ever done.
'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
Let's see what to put in the blank. Rambling Self Absorbed Nonsensical. Dave? Can you edit the title?
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@reahthorolund8373 Pretenderson at 40:00 talking about antifa, 'how many people identifiable, who the hell are they, are they right or left, 800 antifa, then they don't exist, does it exist, they are agents of chaos, to sow discord, how to we protect ourselves, that is the endless question of the human race, men are less agreeable, women like disagreeable men, women chose their mates, the more disagreeable you are the less compassionate and generous you are, why do women pick disagreeable men, in one city they had a summer of love, so everyone is agreeable, do the psychopaths come out at night, agreeable people share, women have to protect their infants, they need men who can guard, if a man is too masculine they can't communicate, you have to hold the psychopaths down, they are at 3%, the Left says hierarchies are nothing but power, tough men are tougher than tough women, are we going to look at this straightforward and clearly?'
[Holy crap Dave, did Peterson just claim he is looking at this straightforward and clearly, after a pointless and chaotic rambling that goes from how many antifa there are to women are more agreeable to the summer of love? Help me out Dave, reply to this comment. What precisely is Peterson's point here? Antifa exists or it doesn't exist? Women are more agreeable? I don't think that is true and of course it has absolutely nothing to do with antifa. The Left says hierarchies are nothing but power? Not true. JP made that up. How many Peterson's does it take to unscrew a lightbulb? One, but he does it by rotating the entire house in the opposite direction.]
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Let's see how easy it is to see through Pirro and Rubin as they label the Left as stupid. Pirro 'We have had our views censored for several years now.' [Anyone see the irony? Rubin has 1.3 million subscribers, and this video has 32k views in one day...and Pirro is complaining about her views being censored? Uh, Ok, Jeanine.] RUBIN: 'Free speech is good, lefty liberals have been silent as the mob has come for the Right, they do this with Tucker...' [So Dave, the mob has come to silence Tucker? Isn't Tucker on every night? I guess this alleged mob is not too successful.]
The mob is coming to my house, people have tried to cancel me. PIRRO: 'They wouldn't attempt to join forces with the Right.' RUBIN: The Left fails on free speech, conservatives we believe in free speech, they are afraid of being called conservative...' [So Rubin's assertion here is if Left leaders stand up for free speech, then they will be called conservative? Where the heck are you getting this stuff Dave. Show me one Left leader who is arguing against free speech for fear of being labeled a conservative? And Dave and Jeanine: can you list a couple of recent examples of you trying to join forces with the Left? How exactly Dave is 150 liberals publishing a letter for free speech 'the Left fails on free speech'?]
My guess is Dave realizes as long as he labels the Left as bad, no one will notice what complete nonsense his argument is. I swear these Right wing Vlog's really preach to the gullible. Jordan Peterson and Stephen Hicks being two great examples. Why people consider Peterson as smart is just plain mind boggling. Every time Peterson calls the ignorant Left he gets a free pass for a couple weeks to say whatever he dreams up without challenge, figuratively. Looks like Rubin is an apt pupil of this trick. Pretty much the same for Hicks.
PIRRO says the Left doesn't want to hear from the Right. RUBIN: 'The woke condition is a mind virus, once you accept those ideas....' Doesn't this letter from lefty liberals actually advocate for free speech? So what are Rubin and Pirro complaining about? Why did 150 leaders sign a letter for free speech if they are afraid of being called conservatives? Unless I am missing something this video is phenomenal at internal contradictions and complaining about libtards agreeing with Pirro and Rubin.
(The letter expressed alarm over the “intolerance of opposing views” and “public shaming and ostracism” aimed at those who challenge liberal ideas. The authors said this phenomenon has “steadily narrowed the boundaries of what can be said without the threat of reprisal.” “It is now all too common to hear calls for swift and severe retribution in response to perceived transgressions of speech and thought,” the letter states.)
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JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder, the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...also that you think so that your stupid thoughts can die instead of you. At the upper end of a hierarchy, you find people who know a lot, if you are stupid, smart people won't listen to you, so you can inform yourself with tools and you won't be an embarrassment, the careless self-evident axiom of human social interaction is that if I can force you to do something then I have the right to do it.
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@johnbeckwith1361 NOEM: What has he done, what has he done, he has done nothing with tools and policy, he doesn't let us do our job, he will not keep us safe.
RUBIN: She is saying what everyone knows, no one believes the federal government is doing their job, border agents don't like to be a travel agent, you can go to Chicago. The democrat party, one of your few jobs dude.
Dave, this alleged Host is stumped by question turned against her? Where did that happen exactly?
Here is what happened, Noem shared her made up feelings that Biden has done nothing with tools and policy, and then Rubin shared his made up feelings that no one believes the federal government is doing their job and border agents are forced to act as travel agents.
At somewhere aroung the 80th percentile for gullibility you become a Rubin believer.
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@olderuglierandwiser Is Rubin joking? JP most important speech? Dave? Please timestamp and quote an important and useful idea by JP anywhere in this entire video. Good luck. Well the most important speech JP has ever made; not a very high bar.
'Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...'
'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
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@sambowe8288 Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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Is Rubin joking? JP most important speech? Dave? Please timestamp and quote an important and useful idea by JP anywhere in this entire video. Good luck. Well the most important speech JP has ever made; not a very high bar.
'Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...'
'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
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@slagebobs4109 I supplied an excellent quote out of context? What? JP goal is to help people? Maybe, and I gather his simple self-help message helps some people which I fully support him on. His at least equally obvious mission is to always be seen as the smartest person in the room who can't stand to have his opinions challenged. I am just addressing the strange sociological phenomenon of a guy with no useful intellectual ideas about anything seen as an intellectual role model. I invite you to produce a useful, coherent, intellectual statement by JP on any subject anywhere to prove me wrong.
Here are some non-examples:
Jordan's 16th Rule; Free speech also is the mechanism by which we generate the conceptions that allow us to organize our experience in the world, it is the mechanism that allows us to reformulate and criticize those conceptions when they become outdated and sterile, to reanimate them in a new form so we can move into the future.
Jordan's 17th Rule; There is no evidence that women can create social organizations.
Jordan's 18th Rule, Hard core clinical psychology research has determined that perception influences behavior.
[Yes Jordan, when I perceive I am thirsty my behavior is to go to the fridge for a drink.]
Jordan's 19th Rule; There is something to us. [Uh sure Jordan, a bit pointless and ambiguous however.]
Jordan's 20th Rule; I realized psychologically that the future is in a sense actually unpredictable.
[You needed psychology to figure that out Jordan? I figured it out without psychology.]
Jordan's 21 Rule: It is hard to get in to Harvard and it takes good SAT scores. [Yes Jordan, everyone already knows that.]
Jordan's 22 Rule: The world is not objects, it is the harmonious interplay of patterns, you dance with the world, you don't want a person who will dominate you sexually during the initial dance .
Jordan's 23 Rule: If you have a functional identity, when you act it out in the world you get what you want and need.
[I am pretty sure I have a function, and an identity, and I act out in the world, but merely wanting something is no promise that I will get it. Sorry Jordan If/Then logic failure on your part.]
Jordan's 24 Rule: I highly recommend that you try and put yourself together.
[Wow, I am totally going to do that now that you told me.]
Jordan's 25th Rule: The biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light of characterization on the spirit that occupies the pinnacle in the hierarchy of perception. [Huh?]
Jordan's 26th Rule: I have been thinking for 40 years and I realized that you have to prioritize your perceptions. Prioritize means some things are more important than others in a hierarchy. Does that hierarchy have to be unified or not. There is an immediate existential consequence to not having a hierarchy of perceptual priority. You need a hierarchy to filter the world and what is at the highest point of the hierarchy.
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@King_Anime528 Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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NOEM: What has he done, what has he done, he has done nothing with tools and policy, he doesn't let us do our job, he will not keep us safe.
RUBIN: She is saying what everyone knows, no one believes the federal government is doing their job, border agents don't like to be a travel agent, you can go to Chicago. The democrat party, one of your few jobs dude.
Dave, this alleged Host is stumped by question turned against her? Where did that happen exactly? Here is what happened, Noem shared her made up feelings that Biden has done nothing with tools and policy, and then Rubin shared his made-up feelings that no one believes the federal government is doing their job and border agents are forced to act as travel agents. At somewhere around the 80th percentile for gullibility you become a Rubin believer.
Rubin and his fans aren't really fans of facts, but:
WHAT TRUMP DID: In March 2020, at the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, the Trump administration invoked Title 42, a controversial statute ostensibly meant as a public health measure. The policy allowed US authorities to swiftly expel migrants - including asylum seekers - at the border.
Nearly 400,000 people were detained and expelled between its implementation and January 2021, when Mr Trump left the White House.
WHAT BIDEN DID: He defended keeping Title 42 in place, using the pandemic as justification. Over 2.28 million people were expelled using Title 42 authority between January 2021 and March 2023, the last month for which data is available. But when the US ended its coronavirus public health emergency on May 11, Title 42 expired with it. To replace it, US immigration authorities unveiled a "carrot and stick" approach that encourages legal pathways, while also implementing strict penalties for those who cross illegally. They have opened regional processing centres in Latin America aimed at helping migrants apply to come to the US and expanded access to CBP One, an app migrants can use to schedule asylum appointments. People who cross illegally will be deported, barred from re-entering the US for at least five years, and be "presumed ineligible for asylum", according to Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
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No one can find a coherent useful idea by JP: Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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NOEM: What has he done, what has he done, he has done nothing with tools and policy, he doesn't let us do our job, he will not keep us safe.
RUBIN: She is saying what everyone knows, no one believes the federal government is doing their job, border agents don't like to be a travel agent, you can go to Chicago. The democrat party, one of your few jobs dude.
Dave, this alleged Host is stumped by question turned against her? Where did that happen exactly? Here is what happened, Noem shared her made up feelings that Biden has done nothing with tools and policy, and then Rubin shared his made-up feelings that no one believes the federal government is doing their job and border agents are forced to act as travel agents. At somewhere around the 80th percentile for gullibility you become a Rubin believer.
Rubin and his fans aren't really fans of facts, but:
WHAT TRUMP DID: In March 2020, at the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic, the Trump administration invoked Title 42, a controversial statute ostensibly meant as a public health measure. The policy allowed US authorities to swiftly expel migrants - including asylum seekers - at the border.
Nearly 400,000 people were detained and expelled between its implementation and January 2021, when Mr Trump left the White House.
WHAT BIDEN DID: He defended keeping Title 42 in place, using the pandemic as justification. Over 2.28 million people were expelled using Title 42 authority between January 2021 and March 2023, the last month for which data is available. But when the US ended its coronavirus public health emergency on May 11, Title 42 expired with it. To replace it, US immigration authorities unveiled a "carrot and stick" approach that encourages legal pathways, while also implementing strict penalties for those who cross illegally. They have opened regional processing centres in Latin America aimed at helping migrants apply to come to the US and expanded access to CBP One, an app migrants can use to schedule asylum appointments. People who cross illegally will be deported, barred from re-entering the US for at least five years, and be "presumed ineligible for asylum", according to Customs and Border Protection (CBP).
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Let's see what JP is up to...make energy cheap, there is no difference between energy and wealth, there is a problem with nuclear waste, if you want to save the climate you want to make power as cheap as possible to make people rich, China has greened totally, as CO2 rises plants can grow better in drier environments, I learned that things are better than we think the best way to save the planet is to make poor people rich as fast as we can....the biggest environmental problem isn't global warming it is over fishing, we know how to stop it...
[This guy is so totally full of crap every time he opens his mouth. We should make poor people rich? Uh ok, Jordan, how do we do that exactly? If you make power cheap you save the environment? What an absolute idiot. The cheaper power gets the more people use of it, and what is the biggest problem we have? Emissions from power use, and pollution from products made with energy. And then there is the lame brained argument that gullible conservatives fall for; since plants breathe CO2, the more CO2 we produce, the better. There is no difference between energy and wealth? Really? Everyone who has enough energy to heat their house and fill up their gas tank is automatically wealthy? How does that work exactly?]
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This looks like two pretend intellectuals talking to me. If either of them says some smart point in this video, can someone point it out to me? Lets punch it to Benny Johnson: "Every state is different, every state is supposed to be their own government, we are watching that wash away horribly, every state votes... Bernie has been a communist his whole life, and old crusty communist..." Benny or Dave: When has Bernie ever been a communist? If he as made any 'I am a communist' type statement in like the last 6 years, can you point me to it? If you guys want to see some real presidential style ideas, check jgreene4prez2020 on FB. 'People want to know where there information is coming from, they are Leftist propagandist, there is no such thing as objectivity any more...I have a firm pulse on DC...' Anyway, waiting for anything smart either of these guys say. Remember Dave Rubin decided that Jordan Peterson was the real deal when JP petted a cat. Conservatives think JP is a smart guy. JP is an idiot. Do the math.
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