Comments by "" (@psychcowboy1) on "This Is Easily the Most Important Speech Jordan Peterson Has Ever Done" video.

  1. No one can find a profound useful idea by JP.
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  2.  @Hodl.on.forever  Ok there are no useful intellectual idea in this video, but some in that book. Like what?
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  3. No one can find a coherent intellectual useful idea by JP.
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  4. Alternate title: JP goes off the rails with incoherent ramblings about setting the dinner table and climbing Jacob's ladder.
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  5.  @chrisbraid2907  I think most of his critics don't hate him, just notice that he is a pseudo intellectual.
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  6. No one can find a coherent intellectual useful idea by JP.
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  7. No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  8.  @SicMundus7  He sounds smart until you start paying attention to what he says.
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  9. No one can find a profound coherent idea by JP.
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  10.  @cryptic2079  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  11.  @projectclockcodes  No one can find a profound useful coherent idea by Peterson.
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  12. No one can find a coherent profound idea by JP.
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  13. ​ @sedula2328 no one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  14.  @caitcasali3207  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  15.  @caitcasali3207  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  16.  @jedswenson5667  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  17.  @caitcasali3207  Did you find an intellectual idea by Peterson?
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  18.  @sedula2328  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  19.  @jarredmattingly5369  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  20.  @GeronimoPlaz  No one can find a profound useful idea by Peterson.
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  21.  @GeronimoPlaz  JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that we do not understand pre-experimental thinking, so we try to explain it in terms that we do understand – which means that we explain it away, define it as nonsense. After all, we think scientifically – so we believe – and we think we know what that means (since scientific thinking can in principle be defined). We are familiar with scientific thinking, and value it highly – so we tend to presume that that is all there is to thinking (that all other “forms of thought” are approximations, at best, to the ideal of scientific thought). But this is not accurate. Thinking also and more fundamentally is specification of value – is specification of implication for behavior. This means that categorization, with regards to value –determination (or even perception) of what constitutes a single thing, or class of things – is the act of grouping together according to implication for behavior.  Do you agree?
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  22.  @georgeyoung92  No one can understand what JP is saying, including Samuel.
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  23.  @georgeyoung92  What did you understand from this video? Any profound intellectual idea? Use a fork and a plate to organize the cosmos to the shining city? Surprise me. Timestamp and quote. Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility? What does that mean? It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner? Huh? There is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable? Psychobabble on meth.
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  24.  @samuelasnake3234  What did you understand from this video? Did Peterson have a profound intellectual idea? Where?
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  25. No one can find a coherent useful idea by JP.
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  26. We are searching for an intellectual useful idea by Peterson. No one can find one.
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  27.  @piolin23iq  Did you find an intellectual useful idea by Peterson?
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  28.  @wannabecar8733  Jordan Peterson is the second coming.
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  29. Is Rubin joking? JP most important speech? Dave? Please timestamp and quote an important and useful idea by JP anywhere in this entire video. Good luck. Well the most important speech JP has ever made; not a very high bar. 'Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...' 'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
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  30. ​ @mark_downunder Did Peterson say something intelligent that your average middle schoolers couldn't figure out on their own.?
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  31.  @mark_downunder  Pride comes before a fall? Already covered in Disney movies and on sesame Street. We continue our quest for an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  32.  @l000tube  We continue our quest for an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  33. No one can find an intellectual idea by JP.
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  34. Easily the MOST nonsensical speech JP has ever done, and that is a pretty tough bar to clear.
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  35. We are searching for a coherent insightful idea by JP. No one can find one.
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  36. No one can find an intellectual idea by JP.
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  37. We are searching for a coherent insightful idea by JP. No one can find one.
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  38.  @walterstockhecker5579  we are searching for an intellectual idea by Peterson. Be responsible so you don't get taken advantage of... Thomas the train, my 3rd grade teacher, and Jordan Peterson.
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  39.  @walterstockhecker5579  I agree, you can't find a coherent useful insightful idea by JP. The quote here isn't deep; it is basically the same advice most parents give their fourth graders.
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  40.  @walterstockhecker5579  I agree with you again! Neither of us can find a profound intellectual coherent useful idea by Peterson anywhere. BTW make your bed isn't profound.
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  41.  @walterstockhecker5579  We continue our quest for an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  42.  @walterstockhecker5579  Let's have a contest for the least profound statement you can think of. Here is mine... Make your bed. Your turn, try to top it.
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  43. No one can find a profound coherent idea by JP.
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  44. Wisdom? Where did that happen? Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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  45. No one can find a coherent intellectual useful idea by JP.
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  46.  @slagebobs4109  You found a coherent intellectual useful idea by JP? Where? Dozens? Can I see one from this or any other video?
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  47.  @slagebobs4109  I understand, you are pretty sure JP has said some useful intellectual stuff in this or another video, but you aren't sure what it was. If you find it LMK.
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  48.  @slagebobs4109  Peterson said x at timestamp y and it is intellectual because z. Try that. Any useful profound idea that your average middle schooler couldn't figure out on their own.
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  49.  @slagebobs4109  True it is important to be personally responsible for your success and failures. I learned that from my parents and teachers in third grade. Vast swath believe in guaranteed income? Percent and source? Quote JP saying something insightful in this video. I promise to check it out, mixed with massive amounts of fake intellectual nonsense: Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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  50. ​ @bryanbenaway5411 no one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  51.  @michaelleahey7250  Our quest for an intellectual idea by Peterson continues.
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  52.  @sulista-consulting  Is Rubin joking? JP most important speech? Dave? Please timestamp and quote an important and useful idea by JP anywhere in this entire video. Good luck. Well the most important speech JP has ever made; not a very high bar. 'Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...'
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  53.  @chrishansen7104  No one can find an intellectual useful idea by JP.
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  54.  @tnerb830  No one can find an intellectual useful idea by JP.
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  55.  @sulista-consulting  We are searching for a useful idea by JP. No one has found one.
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  56.  @MrGheller  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  57.  @davidmcgowan6119  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  58.  @AlbertQian  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  59.  @Domcel  No one can find a coherent useful idea by JP in this speech.
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  60.  @deonscott91  No one can find a useful coherent idea by JP.
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  61.  @CapoVito100  We continue our quest for an intellectual idea by JP, who feels he is the second coming and self appointed explainer of the world.
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  62.  @martin_swellfitness  Our quest for an intellectual idea by JP continues. An impressive amount of nonsense packed into 24:00 minutes. Important isn't the word I would use Dave. Easily the Most _______________ Speech JP has ever done. 'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...' Let's see what to put in the blank. Rambling Self Absorbed Nonsensical. Dave? Can you edit the title?
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  63.  @eugeniorey4565  No one can find a profound intellectual coherent idea by Peterson.
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  64.  @Terri19karen  JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that we do not understand pre-experimental thinking, so we try to explain it in terms that we do understand – which means that we explain it away, define it as nonsense. After all, we think scientifically – so we believe – and we think we know what that means (since scientific thinking can in principle be defined). We are familiar with scientific thinking, and value it highly – so we tend to presume that that is all there is to thinking (that all other “forms of thought” are approximations, at best, to the ideal of scientific thought). But this is not accurate. Thinking also and more fundamentally is specification of value – is specification of implication for behavior. This means that categorization, with regards to value –determination (or even perception) of what constitutes a single thing, or class of things – is the act of grouping together according to implication for behavior.  Do you agree?
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  65.  @leopoldbourne8444  JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that we do not understand pre-experimental thinking, so we try to explain it in terms that we do understand – which means that we explain it away, define it as nonsense. After all, we think scientifically – so we believe – and we think we know what that means (since scientific thinking can in principle be defined). We are familiar with scientific thinking, and value it highly – so we tend to presume that that is all there is to thinking (that all other “forms of thought” are approximations, at best, to the ideal of scientific thought). But this is not accurate. Thinking also and more fundamentally is specification of value – is specification of implication for behavior. This means that categorization, with regards to value –determination (or even perception) of what constitutes a single thing, or class of things – is the act of grouping together according to implication for behavior.  Do you agree?
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  66.  @foulplay99  JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that we do not understand pre-experimental thinking, so we try to explain it in terms that we do understand – which means that we explain it away, define it as nonsense. After all, we think scientifically – so we believe – and we think we know what that means (since scientific thinking can in principle be defined). We are familiar with scientific thinking, and value it highly – so we tend to presume that that is all there is to thinking (that all other “forms of thought” are approximations, at best, to the ideal of scientific thought). But this is not accurate. Thinking also and more fundamentally is specification of value – is specification of implication for behavior. This means that categorization, with regards to value –determination (or even perception) of what constitutes a single thing, or class of things – is the act of grouping together according to implication for behavior.  Do you agree?
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  67.  @Super_Nova1234  No one can find a coherent intellectual idea by JP.
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  68.  @daouddenali8450  Be a monster... Sniffle... Jordan Peterson.
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  69.  @markbrown8937  We continue our quest for an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  70.  @markbrown8937  JP is a fake intellectual. I am a real intellectual since I realize things that JP does not, for example that characterization is a precondition for individual freedom, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, cognitive systems have axiomatic levels, and compassion doesn't scale as you move up the hierarchy of complexity, and also that the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light on the hierarchy of perception. What faith means is that you act out the proposition that you can ride the wave as big as it comes, all together in good will. Canonical patterns of being for what we act out in the world, waves of behavioral patterns across time, no one in their right mind would argue that numbers are not true, there are stories about you and you and you and the human experience as such, the thing is the pattern of their being, the process has been occurring for thousands of years, a representation of the distillation of the process, fairy tales that are really old, cultures that don't change stay the same, while creatures with nervous systems watch each other. Jordan Peterson JP doesn't have the intellectual ability I have, since I realize that the future is unpredictable technically, you are not a clockwork machine, what does free will mean, you are not a deterministic clockwork machine, I move my arm in a complex way, I set it up in a deterministic way, as we implement our actions the horizon of possibility collapses into a deterministic actuality, the farther out into the future, the less deterministic our perceptions necessarily become, you are a visionary, you have to reconfigure how you think scientifically, you think there are objects and you react to those objects, and that is not true, you don't see objects, none of that is true, you don't see objects you see patterns that are functional.
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  71. ​ @bobs8942 Peterson has figured out how to use a fork and a plate to organize the cosmos and climb Jacobs ladder. Tell me you are not impressed.
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  72.  @bobs8942  That is Peterson from this video.
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  73.  @bobs8942  Listen to like the last 5 minutes and have a good laugh.
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  74.  @bobs8942  Just remember next time you are setting the dinner table you are actually organizing the cosmos, and preparing to climb Jacobs ladder to the shining city on the hill. Not sure how Peterson being very careful to use precise words escapes you.
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  75. No one can find a coherent intellectual useful idea by JP.
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  76. No one can find a coherent profound idea by JP.
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  77. JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder, the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...also that you think so that your stupid thoughts can die instead of you. At the upper end of a hierarchy, you find people who know a lot, if you are stupid, smart people won't listen to you, so you can inform yourself with tools and you won't be an embarrassment, the careless self-evident axiom of human social interaction is that if I can force you to do something then I have the right to do it.
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  78. If you understood what he said I would be worried. Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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  79. The statement is total nonsense. Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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  80.  @PrairieWolff  I agree, you can't find a profound coherent idea by JP.
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  81. Is Rubin joking? JP most important speech? Dave? Please timestamp and quote an important and useful idea by JP anywhere in this entire video. Good luck. Well the most important speech JP has ever made; not a very high bar. 'Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...' 'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
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  82. No one can find an intellectual coherent useful idea by Peterson
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  83. No one can find an intellectual idea by JP.
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  84.  @Mrimperfections777  We are searching for a coherent insightful idea by JP. No one can find one.
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  85. No one can find a coherent intellectual useful idea by JP.
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  86. Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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  87. No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  88.  @ronjon5241  You can't find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  89.  @ronjon5241  JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder, the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...also that you think so that your stupid thoughts can die instead of you. At the upper end of a hierarchy, you find people who know a lot, if you are stupid, smart people won't listen to you, so you can inform yourself with tools and you won't be an embarrassment, the careless self-evident axiom of human social interaction is that if I can force you to do something then I have the right to do it.
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  90.  @christinamerklin2166  No one can find a profound intellectual coherent useful idea by Peterson.
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  91.  @jennil7797  I agree. You can't find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  92.  @jennil7797  Our quest for an intellectual idea by Peterson continues.
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  93.  @jongillett9243  Does JP have any coherent useful ideas in this video?
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  94.  @jongillett9243  JP has a coherent useful idea? In this video or another one? What was it?
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  95.  @jongillett9243  Coherent yes. Profound no. Anything that Peterson has said that your average middle schooler couldn't figure out on their own. If you find it please share.
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  96.  @jongillett9243  This particular video is rambling incoherent gibberish from start to finish... With Peterson grandly deluded that ARC is a movement to fix world problems. Ending of course, with tears.
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  97. Is Rubin joking? JP most important speech? Dave? Please timestamp and quote an important and useful idea by JP anywhere in this entire video. Good luck. Well, the most important speech JP has ever made; not a very high bar. 'Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...' 'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
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  98. I would worry if you thought you actually understand this psychobabble.
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  99. An impressive amount of nonsense packed into 24:00 minutes. Important isn't the word I would use Dave. Easily the Most _________________ Speech JP has ever done. 'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...' Let's see what to put in the blank. Rambling Self Absorbed Nonsensical. Dave? Can you edit the title?
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  100.  @patricktimbs8788  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  101.  @tanyatodorovic7710  You found a profound insightful useful idea by JP? In this video? Timestamp and quote?
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  102.  @janetlawson4482  We are searching for an intellectual useful idea by Peterson. No one can find one.
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  103. JP said something brilliant? Timestamp and quote?
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  104. An impressive amount of nonsense packed into 24:00 minutes. Important isn't the word I would use Dave. Easily the Most _________________ Speech JP has ever done. 'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...' Let's see what to put in the blank. Rambling Self Absorbed Nonsensical. Dave? Can you edit the title?
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  105. JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder, the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...also that you think so that your stupid thoughts can die instead of you. At the upper end of a hierarchy, you find people who know a lot, if you are stupid, smart people won't listen to you, so you can inform yourself with tools and you won't be an embarrassment, the careless self-evident axiom of human social interaction is that if I can force you to do something then I have the right to do it.
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  106. No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  107.  @maddscientist1050  I agree JP is arrogant, and Rubin is ignorant that this is 'easily the most important speech by JP'; however JP most important speech is a pretty low bar to clear; has JP ever made an important comment on anything?
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  108.  @Mag_W_  I agree, you can't find a coherent useful idea by JP in this video: Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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  109.  @Mag_W_  Wait, you found a coherent profound intellectual idea by Peterson in this video or any other? This is super exciting. What was it?
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  110. No one can find a profound coherent idea by JP in this video.
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  111. No one can find a profound coherent idea by JP in this video.
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  112. Alternate title: JP goes off the rails with incoherent ramblings about setting the dinner table and climbing Jacob's ladder.
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  113.  @milanstojic3304  No one can find an intellectual idea by JP.
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  114. No one can find a profound coherent idea by JP in this video.
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  115. No one can find a profound coherent idea by JP in this video.
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  116. We are searching for a coherent insightful idea by JP. No one can find one.
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  117.  @mr4nders0n  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  118.  @davidcole1475  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  119.  @mariannefaulkner3445  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  120.  @leesa3140  'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...' Let's see what to put in the blank. 'Rambling Self Absorbed Nonsensical.' Dave? Can you edit the title?
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  121.  @leesa3140  I know you love listening to him. That isn't my question. Timestamp and quote a profound intellectual coherent useful idea by Peterson anywhere in this video.
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  122.  @leesa3140  What you are missing is the video is supposed to be a plan to save the world, the ARC. Where Peterson rambles incoherently about ideas everyone on earth already knows. Neither you or me can find anything Peterson said that you didn't know already. You heard him state there is meaning in responsibility to others, duh, and pretending that is a world plan.
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  123.  @leesa3140  JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that we do not understand pre-experimental thinking, so we try to explain it in terms that we do understand – which means that we explain it away, define it as nonsense. After all, we think scientifically – so we believe – and we think we know what that means (since scientific thinking can in principle be defined). We are familiar with scientific thinking, and value it highly – so we tend to presume that that is all there is to thinking (that all other “forms of thought” are approximations, at best, to the ideal of scientific thought). But this is not accurate. Thinking also and more fundamentally is specification of value – is specification of implication for behavior. This means that categorization, with regards to value –determination (or even perception) of what constitutes a single thing, or class of things – is the act of grouping together according to implication for behavior.  Do you agree?
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  124.  @Mudpathmamma  We are searching for an intellectual idea by Peterson. Did you find one?
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  125. Alternate title: JP goes off the rails with incoherent ramblings about setting the dinner table and climbing Jacob's ladder.
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  126. No one can find a profound coherent idea by JP in this video.
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  127. JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder, the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...also that you think so that your stupid thoughts can die instead of you. At the upper end of a hierarchy, you find people who know a lot, if you are stupid, smart people won't listen to you, so you can inform yourself with tools and you won't be an embarrassment, the careless self-evident axiom of human social interaction is that if I can force you to do something then I have the right to do it.
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  128.  @mark_downunder  Is Rubin joking? JP most important speech? Dave? Please timestamp and quote an important and useful idea by JP anywhere in this entire video. Good luck. Well the most important speech JP has ever made; not a very high bar. 'Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...'
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  129.  @bobbygene8274  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  130. No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  131.  @andreamerciar3779  What I mean is that you, me, and everyone else can't find a profound intellectual coherent useful idea by Peterson in this video or any other. Everything he has ever said that is coherent, you already knew.
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  132.  @house0paine535  True, JP has no useful insightful ideas in this video that Dave Rubin calls his most important.
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  133.  @house0paine535  Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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  134. JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder, the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...also that you think so that your stupid thoughts can die instead of you. At the upper end of a hierarchy, you find people who know a lot, if you are stupid, smart people won't listen to you, so you can inform yourself with tools and you won't be an embarrassment, the careless self-evident axiom of human social interaction is that if I can force you to do something then I have the right to do it.
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  135.  @darwinhughey3861  Peterson used AI to generate his speech? Now that is believable considering it is basically words but no meaning.
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  136.  @mark_downunder  Is Rubin joking? JP most important speech? Dave? Please timestamp and quote an important and useful idea by JP anywhere in this entire video. Good luck. Well the most important speech JP has ever made; not a very high bar. 'Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...'
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  137.  @smartbart80  An impressive amount of nonsense packed into 24:00 minutes. Important isn't the word I would use Dave. Easily the Most _______________ Speech JP has ever done. 'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...' Let's see what to put in the blank. Rambling Self Absorbed Nonsensical. Dave? Can you edit the title?
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  138.  @thereignofthezero225  We are searching for an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  139.  @DonDezz  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  140.  @DonDezz  No, I mean you also.
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  141.  @DonDezz  I oppose the training and silencing of Peterson. He has every right to be a pseudo intellectual on YouTube.
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  142.  @DonDezz  I did learn something from this video. If you climb Jacobs ladder with a fork and a plate you can organize the cosmos and ascend to the shining city on the hill.
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  143.  @billhair9552  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  144. An impressive amount of nonsense packed into 24:00 minutes. Important isn't the word I would use Dave. Easily the Most _________________ Speech JP has ever done. 'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...' Let's see what to put in the blank. Rambling Self Absorbed Nonsensical. Dave? Can you edit the title?
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  145. The statement is total nonsense. There is no technical difference between Peterson and Joel Osteen.
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  146. JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder, the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...also that you think so that your stupid thoughts can die instead of you. At the upper end of a hierarchy, you find people who know a lot, if you are stupid, smart people won't listen to you, so you can inform yourself with tools and you won't be an embarrassment, the careless self-evident axiom of human social interaction is that if I can force you to do something then I have the right to do it.
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  147.  @olderuglierandwiser  Is Rubin joking? JP most important speech? Dave? Please timestamp and quote an important and useful idea by JP anywhere in this entire video. Good luck. Well the most important speech JP has ever made; not a very high bar. 'Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...' 'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
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  148.  @sambowe8288  I agree, you can't find a profound intellectual coherent idea by Peterson.
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  149.  @sambowe8288  Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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  150.  @silviaquesada2499  I have asked that question to over 1000 JP fans. No one has an answer, and despite 250,000 comments on the GQ interview, not a single person claiming that JP won, can actually find a JP win. Try this; timestamp and quote a coherent, profound, and useful idea by JP from this video. Good luck.
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  151.  @silviaquesada2499  Did you know that good people are not naive, they are tough and have seen things, and that there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable?
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  152.  @silviaquesada2499  JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that we do not understand pre-experimental thinking, so we try to explain it in terms that we do understand – which means that we explain it away, define it as nonsense. After all, we think scientifically – so we believe – and we think we know what that means (since scientific thinking can in principle be defined). We are familiar with scientific thinking, and value it highly – so we tend to presume that that is all there is to thinking (that all other “forms of thought” are approximations, at best, to the ideal of scientific thought). But this is not accurate. Thinking also and more fundamentally is specification of value – is specification of implication for behavior. This means that categorization, with regards to value –determination (or even perception) of what constitutes a single thing, or class of things – is the act of grouping together according to implication for behavior. Do you agree?
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  153.  @silviaquesada2499  If you find a coherent intellectual useful idea by Peterson in this or any other video LMK.
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  154.  @silviaquesada2499  I agree, you can't find a profound useful coherent idea by Peterson.
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  155.  @silviaquesada2499  We continue our quest for an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  156.  @oliveoil7642  No one can find an intellectual coherent useful idea by Peterson.
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  157.  @davidblack4426  No one can find an intellectual coherent useful idea by Peterson.
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  158.  @riseupac5779  No one can find an intellectual coherent useful idea by Peterson.
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  159.  @Emloch  No one can find an intellectual coherent useful idea by Peterson.
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  160.  @Emloch  You found a profound intellectual coherent useful idea by Peterson? Please share.
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  161.  @riseupac5779  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  162.  @davidblack4426  JP is the leading fake intellectual of this century.
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  163.  @Emloch  I agree, you can't find a profound intellectual coherent idea by Peterson!
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  164. Is Rubin joking? JP most important speech? Dave? Please timestamp and quote an important and useful idea by JP anywhere in this entire video. Good luck. Well the most important speech JP has ever made; not a very high bar. 'Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...' 'Sacrifice makes a difference, the hierarchy of identity, the lower to the higher, proximal hedonic whims, the payback is good, to escape from primordial narcissism, some things go wrong with children, having children can be rewarding, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, serve a higher purpose, technically, think about a fork and a table and a plate as a microcosm of the universe, that is all real, we forgot responsibility...'
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  165. Alternate title: JP goes off the rails with incoherent ramblings about setting the dinner table and climbing Jacob's ladder.
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  166. ​ @ephilbin No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  167.  @georgevindo  No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  168.  @ephilbin  Yes that is word salad also. Here is a real intellectual idea... Characterization is a precondition for individual freedom.
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  169.  @ephilbin  1. '"Objective value is necessary to the very idea of a rule which is not tyranny, or an obedience that is not slavery." 2. If there's no such thing as objectively right or wrong, then everything is enacted by force. No, neither statement make any sense. If they are from JP, then this is not surprising. Lots of rules are legally determined to be objectively right or wrong, and they are enforced via force. Is there any culture where there is no such thing as objectively right or wrong? Not that I am aware of, thus the statement as attempting to explain a nonexistent phenomenon is a straw man. BTW: Did you find a coherent useful idea by JP?
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  170.  @BP-ge9sj  no one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson.
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  171.  @ephilbin  Yep that is word salad. Try explaining what it means.
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  172.  @simonwurtzburg5540  Basically describes all of Peterson sound bytes. Sounds smart until you analyze it.
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  173.  @sexdrugsandeverythingelsew6748  JP is a fake intellectual.  I am a real intellectual since I realize things that JP does not, for example that characterization is a precondition for individual freedom, there is no technical difference between thinking about yourself and being miserable, cognitive systems have axiomatic levels, and compassion doesn't scale as you move up the hierarchy of complexity, and also that the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light on the hierarchy of perception.  What faith means is that you act out the proposition that you can ride the wave as big as it comes, all together in good will.
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  174.  @slagebobs4109  I supplied an excellent quote out of context? What? JP goal is to help people? Maybe, and I gather his simple self-help message helps some people which I fully support him on. His at least equally obvious mission is to always be seen as the smartest person in the room who can't stand to have his opinions challenged. I am just addressing the strange sociological phenomenon of a guy with no useful intellectual ideas about anything seen as an intellectual role model. I invite you to produce a useful, coherent, intellectual statement by JP on any subject anywhere to prove me wrong. Here are some non-examples: Jordan's 16th Rule; Free speech also is the mechanism by which we generate the conceptions that allow us to organize our experience in the world, it is the mechanism that allows us to reformulate and criticize those conceptions when they become outdated and sterile, to reanimate them in a new form so we can move into the future. Jordan's 17th Rule; There is no evidence that women can create social organizations. Jordan's 18th Rule, Hard core clinical psychology research has determined that perception influences behavior. [Yes Jordan, when I perceive I am thirsty my behavior is to go to the fridge for a drink.] Jordan's 19th Rule; There is something to us. [Uh sure Jordan, a bit pointless and ambiguous however.] Jordan's 20th Rule; I realized psychologically that the future is in a sense actually unpredictable. [You needed psychology to figure that out Jordan? I figured it out without psychology.] Jordan's 21 Rule: It is hard to get in to Harvard and it takes good SAT scores. [Yes Jordan, everyone already knows that.] Jordan's 22 Rule: The world is not objects, it is the harmonious interplay of patterns, you dance with the world, you don't want a person who will dominate you sexually during the initial dance . Jordan's 23 Rule: If you have a functional identity, when you act it out in the world you get what you want and need. [I am pretty sure I have a function, and an identity, and I act out in the world, but merely wanting something is no promise that I will get it. Sorry Jordan If/Then logic failure on your part.] Jordan's 24 Rule: I highly recommend that you try and put yourself together. [Wow, I am totally going to do that now that you told me.] Jordan's 25th Rule: The biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light of characterization on the spirit that occupies the pinnacle in the hierarchy of perception. [Huh?] Jordan's 26th Rule: I have been thinking for 40 years and I realized that you have to prioritize your perceptions. Prioritize means some things are more important than others in a hierarchy. Does that hierarchy have to be unified or not. There is an immediate existential consequence to not having a hierarchy of perceptual priority. You need a hierarchy to filter the world and what is at the highest point of the hierarchy.
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  175.  @georgevindo  The JP quote is about as deep as messages on Mr. Rogers Neighborhood and the Lion King.
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  176.  @King_Anime528  JP told you something you didn't know already? What?
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  177.  @King_Anime528  Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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  178.  @micheleinacharles-hazellem1968  No one can find a profound coherent useful idea by JP in this speech.
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  179. Translation: Be strong so you don't become dominated: 'Thomas the Train, Mr. Rogers, Jordan Peterson.'
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  180. No one can find a coherent useful idea by JP: Let's check out this allegedly important speech... a solution that beckons and is generous, we have odds about identity, to a psychological integration, and now I delve into what identity is, and also what social structure must and should be, faith and responsibility, faith is the courage to welcome the future, the future is the manifestation of possibility into actuality, the treasure house of the unknown possibility, with courageous faith, being and becoming are intrinsically good....Huh? Doesn't this guy claim to be precise in your speech?
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  181. We are searching for a coherent insightful idea by JP. No one can find one.
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