Comments by "" (@psychcowboy1) on "Dr. Jordan Peterson on being forced into social media training: 'Unacceptable'" video.
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Jordan's 13th Rule; We don't understand consciousness, we don't know where it fits in the cosmos.
[Jordan, how about not projecting your personal confusion about consciousness on to everyone else?]
Jordan's 14th Rule; How do you arrange books? Using the axiomatic structure of your a priori perceptions manifesting as self evident fact to your ignorant mind.
Jordan's 15 Rule; The best way for me to interact is individual to individual and as if they are part of the process by which things we don't understand can yet be explored and by things that aren't properly organized in our society can yet be set right.
Jordan's 16th Rule; Free speech also is the mechanism by which we generate the conceptions that allow us to organize our experience in the world, it is the mechanism that allows us to reformulate and criticize those conceptions when they become outdated and sterile, to reanimate them in a new form so we can move into the future.
Jordan's 17th Rule; There is no evidence that women can create social organizations.
Jordan's 18th Rule, Hard core clinical psychology research has determined that perception influences behavior.
[Yes Jordan, when I perceive I am thirsty my behavior is to go to the fridge for a drink.]
Jordan's 19th Rule; There is something to us. [Uh sure Jordan, a bit pointless and ambiguous however.]
Jordan's 20th Rule; I realized psychologically that the future is in a sense actually unpredictable.
[You needed psychology to figure that out Jordan? I figured it out without psychology.]
Jordan's 21 Rule: It is hard to get in to Harvard and it takes good SAT scores. [Yes Jordan, everyone already knows that.]
Jordan's 22 Rule: The world is not objects, it is the harmonious interplay of patterns, you dance with the world, you don't want a person who will dominate you sexually during the initial dance .
Jordan's 23 Rule: If you have a functional identity, when you act it out in the world you get what you want and need.
[I am pretty sure I have a function, and an identity, and I act out in the world, but merely wanting something is no promise that I will get it. Sorry Jordan If/Then logic failure on your part.]
Jordan's 24 Rule: I highly recommend that you try and put yourself together.
[Wow, I am totally going to do that now that you told me.]
Jordan's 25th Rule: The biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light of characterization on the spirit that occupies the pinnacle in the hierarchy of perception. [Huh?]
Jordan's 26th Rule: I have been thinking for 40 years and I realized that you have to prioritize your perceptions. Prioritize means some things are more important than others in a hierarchy. Does that hierarchy have to be unified or not. There is an immediate existential consequence to not having a hierarchy of perceptual priority. You need a hierarchy to filter the world and what is at the highest point of the hierarchy.
Jordan's 27th Rule: There are no models of animal industriousness, there is nothing random about dreams, no one advises a loved one to get an abortion, we don't have an overpopulation problem, the women's movement didn't advance women's rights, plenty of them are saying there should be no such thing as hierarchies, our hierarchies are of competence not power, no one knows that the world has improved in every way in the last 50 years including the environment, the West is an oppressive patriarchy but the West is not an oppressive patriarchy....
Jordan's 28th Rule: 'You want to fight the dragons that guard the gate to the treasure that you wish to attain, productivity requires aim and responsibility, discipline and willingness to work, it orients you solidly in the world and gives you a dragon to fight, do you want to be illiterate, you have to think, you can't build muscle at the gym unless you lift weights, face your being with the necessity of transformation, those are the dragons, you have to say to yourself 'I will do good.' @AmbietsRato
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@justincenters2762 The GQ interview 'There was plenty of motivation...? You found a JP win in that video? Cool, Please share what it was.
In first five minutes:
Helen: Patriarchy is a system of male dominance.
JP: That isn't my definition of it.
[Helen gives the dictionary definition and JP disagrees, score for Helen.]
JP: In what way is society male dominated?
Helen: Men have most of the money.
JP: You are taking a tiny percentage of hyper successful males and using it to describe all of western culture, most men in prison are men, most people who commit suicide are men...
[Helen gives a correct example of male dominance and JP switches the goal post to 'is society easier or more fair to men'. Score for Helen.]
JP at 20:30 Helen: 'A female dominated office leaves men feeling left out. JP: How do we get to something that isn't a tyrannical patriarchy, if it is composed of mostly women and its a tyrannical patriarchy and if it is composed of mostly men it is a tyrannical patriarchy we are out of options....
[Jordan pulls a Cathy Newman, SO YOU ARE SAYING if is composed mostly of women it is a tyrannical patriarchy? No Jordan she didn't say anything like that.
Helen said absolutely nothing about women dominated is a tyrannical patriarchy, she corrected your vocabulary problem, dominated by women is a matriarchy dude. Neither did she say we have a tyrannical patriarchy. She said the patriarchy was overthrown by the women's movement and women now have almost equal rights with men.]
JP at 8:00: Helen; women were barred from professions until 1919. JP: Why would you blame men for that?
[Jordan really, why would you blame men for barring women from professions? Score for Helen.]
Around 44:00 Helen referring to equality of outcome: 'I don't think that is a widely held view.'
JP Interrupting as usual: 20% of social scientists identify as Marxist. Look it up in Haidt's work, I studied it quite carefully, it is a perfectly valid statistical.
[Heads up JP, in the survey you are referring to, 3% of college professors identify as Marxist, and you claim that universities are dominated by leftist ideology, thus 3% of a very Left leaning sample identify as Marxist... and you are disagreeing with Helen? Whoops. The study Prevalence of Marxism in Academia states that Marxism is 'A tiny minority faith', ie Peterson cited a study to prove Helen wrong, when it actually proved her right. SCORE: Helen 3, Jordan 0]
--Peterson at 19:00: 'That's for sure it's purely not, when you define it as tyrannical patriarchy implies one-dimensional...'
[Whoops Jordan, remember in the dave rubin john anderson interview when you said the West is an oppressive patriarchy but not purely that? Contradiction alert']
'We take a patriarchal structure like the medical profession and we fill it with women, is it that it is mostly men that makes it a patriarchy, if it is a structure that is composed of women then it is also a tyrannical patriarchy, if it is composed of women and it is a tyrannical patriarchy...
[She just corrected you that composed or dominated primarily of women is a matriarchy. So after denying that we have a patriarchy numerous times in this interview you are now admitting that the medical field is a patriarchy? Score for Helen.)
Let's get our definitions straight on identity politics. [Helen gives a correct definition, JP gives no definition. Score for Helen.]
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@pierreb6860 JP is a fake intellectual, I am a real intellectual since I realize that Identity is the proper union of faith and responsibility. It does that in a hierarchical subsidiary manner, if you have conflict, you need a counter position, that is subsidiary structure. Jacob's ladder, the vine that unites the material and proximal realm of the earth with the eternal realm of heaven, how do we climb it, there is a vision of how we build ourselves, a glorious macro-vision; it is the proximal beginnings, we scaffold ourselves upward from the finite to the infinite, the scaffold constitutes our identity...also that you think so that your stupid thoughts can die instead of you. At the upper end of a hierarchy, you find people who know a lot, if you are stupid, smart people won't listen to you, so you can inform yourself with tools and you won't be an embarrassment, the careless self-evident axiom of human social interaction is that if I can force you to do something then I have the right to do it. Do you agree?
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JP is generally triggered and insecure. My opinion is what you should realize however is that We don't understand consciousness, we don't know where it fits in the cosmos. How do you arrange books? Using the axiomatic structure of your a priori perceptions manifesting as self-evident fact to your ignorant mind. The best way for me to interact is individual to individual and as if they are part of the process by which things we don't understand can yet be explored and by things that aren't properly organized in our society can yet be set right. Free speech also is the mechanism by which we generate the conceptions that allow us to organize our experience in the world, it is the mechanism that allows us to reformulate and criticize those conceptions when they become outdated and sterile, to reanimate them in a new form so we can move into the future. You want to fight the dragons that guard the gate to the treasure that you wish to attain, productivity requires aim and responsibility, discipline and willingness to work, it orients you solidly in the world and gives you a dragon to fight, do you want to be illiterate, you have to think, you can't build muscle at the gym unless you lift weights, face your being with the necessity of transformation, those are the dragons, you have to say to yourself 'I will do good.' And most importantly, the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light of characterization on the spirit that occupies the pinnacle in the hierarchy of perception. @deathrodamus9608
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You found a profound intellectual idea by JP? Timestamp and quote from some YT video? My opinion is what you should realize however is that We don't understand consciousness, we don't know where it fits in the cosmos. How do you arrange books? Using the axiomatic structure of your a priori perceptions manifesting as self-evident fact to your ignorant mind. The best way for me to interact is individual to individual and as if they are part of the process by which things we don't understand can yet be explored and by things that aren't properly organized in our society can yet be set right. Free speech also is the mechanism by which we generate the conceptions that allow us to organize our experience in the world, it is the mechanism that allows us to reformulate and criticize those conceptions when they become outdated and sterile, to reanimate them in a new form so we can move into the future. You want to fight the dragons that guard the gate to the treasure that you wish to attain, productivity requires aim and responsibility, discipline and willingness to work, it orients you solidly in the world and gives you a dragon to fight, do you want to be illiterate, you have to think, you can't build muscle at the gym unless you lift weights, face your being with the necessity of transformation, those are the dragons, you have to say to yourself 'I will do good.' And most importantly, the biblical corpus is a collection of narratives that shine a different light of characterization on the spirit that occupies the pinnacle in the hierarchy of perception.
@sovl2659
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