Comments by "" (@psychcowboy1) on "OxfordUnion"
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At 9:00 'To understand something is to map it on to your body literally, to say we understand we can structure our actions we have a grip, we have problems to solve, the fact that we can speak is a development of the left hemisphere systems, starting point and goal, the semantic description of that was a story, I was here and going somewhere, I had a good day, a dog jumped at me, then he has a panic attack that is an oedipal story, I went to kindergarten, it is a meta story, you know where a good point B might be, our eyes have a white and an iris, you want to see what someone values, when one person looks up then other people look up which is expensive cognitive resources, we want to infer the value structure that directs attention, we imitate, what should we lift our eyes to....and now back to machines....'
[To understand something is to map it on to your body, literally? Does this guy know what the word literally means? And now he is telling ivy league Oxford students about walking to kindergarten? Yes Jordan speaking requires using your brain. I digress, you are super adept at speaking without using your brain. We want to infer the value structure that directs attention? I mapped that onto my body literally, using crayons, but I still don't understand it.]
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[Full Address Oxford Union] Help me out here. Peterson is at Oxford trying to pass on some useful insight that helps advance their upper tier academic knowledge...and he is telling them that we move towards things we want, we need things, if you don't have a purpose you are bitter, we are mortal, life is suffering, if there is no value then you have no justification, you compete and cooperate with people, some pole vaulters are better than others...
I am pretty sure me and everyone knew all that stuff by the second grade. Maybe JP should be teaching this at some kindergarten rather than a self proclaimed academic think tank like Oxford? We move towards things we want, it is valuable to want things, we compete and cooperate with other people, and everyone isn't equally as good as everyone else at everything? Thank you Jordan.
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@Josh-rn1em At 9:00 'To understand something is to map it on to your body literally, to say we understand we can structure our actions we have a grip, we have problems to solve, the fact that we can speak is a development of the left hemisphere systems, starting point and goal, the semantic description of that was a story, I was here and going somewhere, I had a good day, a dog jumped at me, then he has a panic attack that is an oedipal story, I went to kindergarten, it is a meta story, you know where a good point B might be, our eyes have a white and an iris, you want to see what someone values, when one person looks up then other people look up which is expensive cognitive resources, we want to infer the value structure that directs attention, we imitate, what should we lift our eyes to....and now back to machines....'
[To understand something is to map it on to your body, literally? Does this guy know what the word literally means? And now he is telling ivy league Oxford students about walking to kindergarten? Yes Jordan speaking requires using your brain. I digress, you are super adept at speaking without using your brain. We want to infer the value structure that directs attention? I mapped that onto my body literally, using crayons, but I still don't understand it. If a dog jumps at you on your way to kindergarten it becomes an oedipal story? I love it when JP shrooms up before these lectures.]
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@Josh-rn1em 'If you want to not understand things...' You understood what he said? Cool, lets see it.
"Literature is real but it is fictional, there is a problem with perception, we bump against perception, we try to produce robots with visual perception, why if they world is not made of self-apprehensible perception, a snap shot of reality can be interpreted in many ways, how do you walk down a step, I studied a bunch of stuff, to triangulate the problem, if all your senses say the same thing about the perception we still organize ourselves unreliably, rats navigate a maze, the solution that requires embodiment..." The solution requires embodiment? Why isn't the whole audience laughing?
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Literature is real but it is fictional, there is a problem with perception, we bump against perception, we try to produce robots with visual perception, why if they world is not made of self-apprehensible perception, a snap shot of reality can be interpreted in many ways, how do you walk down a step, I studied a bunch of stuff, to triangulate the problem, if all your senses say the same thing about the perception we still organize ourselves unreliably, rats navigate a maze, the solution that requires embodiment... The solution requires embodiment? Why isn't the whole audience laughing?
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At 9:00 'To understand something is to map it on to your body literally, to say we understand we can structure our actions we have a grip, we have problems to solve, the fact that we can speak is a development of the left hemisphere systems, starting point and goal, the semantic description of that was a story, I was here and going somewhere, I had a good day, a dog jumped at me, then he has a panic attack that is an oedipal story, I went to kindergarten, it is a meta story, you know where a good point B might be, our eyes have a white and an iris, you want to see what someone values, when one person looks up then other people look up which is expensive cognitive resources, we want to infer the value structure that directs attention, we imitate, what should we lift our eyes to....and now back to machines....'
[To understand something is to map it on to your body, literally? Does this guy know what the word literally means? And now he is telling ivy league Oxford students about walking to kindergarten? Yes Jordan speaking requires using your brain. I digress, you are super adept at speaking without using your brain. We want to infer the value structure that directs attention? I mapped that onto my body literally, using crayons, but I still don't understand it.]
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@Josh-rn1em What did JP say that was insightful and coherent?
Literature is real but it is fictional, there is a problem with perception, we bump against perception, we try to produce robots with visual perception, why if they world is not made of self apprehensible perception, a snap shot of reality can be interpreted in many ways, how do you walk down a step, I studied a bunch of stuff, to triangulate the problem, if all your senses say the same thing about the perception we still organize ourselves unreliably, rats navigate a maze, the solution that requires embodiment... The solution requires embodiment? Why isn't the whole audience laughing?
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Let's punch in randomly around 4:30 in Full Address Oxford Union: 'We pursue things of value, people who have no purpose are bitter, social creatures compete and cooperate, you produce a hierarchy of competence, people vary in their ability, some are very good, in a hierarchy most of the people stack up at the bottom, to those who have everything more will be given and to those who have nothing everything will be taken away, it is an iron law, inequality is a problem, the Left says you have to be careful because they tend to inequality, people will use power to attain status in the hierarchy....if it is too steep with too many at the bottom it is unjust and unfair, that is not good...'
[Lets unpack this. Jordan speaking at the alleged international center of intellectual thought astounds us that we pursue things of value and that some football players are better than others? Thank you Jordan. Remember Jordan in the GQ interview where you said that it is a preposterous theory that capitalism produces inequity and that hierarchies are of competence not power? Do I need to help you out with this one, or do you see your 100% contradiction between your theory in Oxford and your theory in GQ?]
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Literature is real but it is fictional, there is a problem with perception, we bump against perception, we try to produce robots with visual perception, why if they world is not made of self-apprehensible perception, a snap shot of reality can be interpreted in many ways, how do you walk down a step, I studied a bunch of stuff, to triangulate the problem, if all your senses say the same thing about the perception we still organize ourselves unreliably, rats navigate a maze, the solution that requires embodiment... [The solution requires embodiment? Why isn't the whole audience laughing?]
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At 9:00 'To understand something is to map it on to your body literally, to say we understand we can structure our actions we have a grip, we have problems to solve, the fact that we can speak is a development of the left hemisphere systems, starting point and goal, the semantic description of that was a story, I was here and going somewhere, I had a good day, a dog jumped at me, then he has a panic attack that is an oedipal story, I went to kindergarten, it is a meta story, you know where a good point B might be, our eyes have a white and an iris, you want to see what someone values, when one person looks up then other people look up which is expensive cognitive resources, we want to infer the value structure that directs attention, we imitate, what should we lift our eyes to....and now back to machines....'
[To understand something is to map it on to your body, literally? Does this guy know what the word literally means? And now he is telling ivy league Oxford students about walking to kindergarten? Yes Jordan speaking requires using your brain. I digress, you are super adept at speaking without using your brain. We want to infer the value structure that directs attention? I mapped that onto my body literally, using crayons, but I still don't understand it. If a dog jumps at you on your way to kindergarten it becomes an oedipal story? I love it when JP shrooms up before these lectures.]
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