Comments by "" (@psychcowboy1) on "Jordan Peterson | Full Address and Qu0026A | Oxford Union" video.

  1. He said something intelligent? What was it?
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  2. [Full Address Oxford Union] Help me out here. Peterson is at Oxford trying to pass on some useful insight that helps advance their upper tier academic knowledge...and he is telling them that we move towards things we want, we need things, if you don't have a purpose you are bitter, we are mortal, life is suffering, if there is no value then you have no justification, you compete and cooperate with people, some pole vaulters are better than others... I am pretty sure me and everyone knew all that stuff by the second grade. Maybe JP should be teaching this at some kindergarten rather than a self proclaimed academic think tank like Oxford? We move towards things we want, it is valuable to want things, we compete and cooperate with other people, and everyone isn't equally as good as everyone else at everything? Thank you Jordan.
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  3. Let's jump ahead to about 20:00 to see what JP is up to. Psychologist can't figure out how we see things. Post modern is there is no grand narrative. How do you orient yourselves in the world? There is a contradiction between Marxism and post modernism. My truth is not post modern. There are several types of truth. There is an ethic that has evolved over time. That ethic is reflected in human and animal behavior. Interactions follow a pattern. A big rat wins. The large rat lets the small rat win sometimes. That is Nobel prize material. There is a fair play in rats. There are rules that govern iterated ethical interactions that are emergent properties that are manifested in the great mythological stories and great narratives of our culture, what furthered survival in a Darwinian manner over massive spans of time... [Let's unpack this. Not sure how he went from his truth is not post modern to playing rats, but whatever. Rats play. They like to play. They play fair so they can play more. Nobel Prize material? Kind of a stretch. Iterated ethical interactions of emergent properties of mythological stories and Darwinian survival? I bet no one at Oxford has a clue what JP means. Sounds smart but...are we talking about playing rats or mythological stories or Darwinian survival?]
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  4. Let's punch in randomly around 4:30 in Full Address Oxford Union: 'We pursue things of value, people who have no purpose are bitter, social creatures compete and cooperate, you produce a hierarchy of competence, people vary in their ability, some are very good, in a hierarchy most of the people stack up at the bottom, to those who have everything more will be given and to those who have nothing everything will be taken away, it is an iron law, inequality is a problem, the Left says you have to be careful because they tend to inequality, people will use power to attain status in the hierarchy....if it is too steep with too many at the bottom it is unjust and unfair, that is not good...' [Lets unpack this. Jordan speaking at the alleged international center of intellectual thought astounds us that we pursue things of value and that some football players are better than others? Thank you Jordan. Remember Jordan in the GQ interview where you said that it is a preposterous theory that capitalism produces inequity and that hierarchies are of competence not power? Do I need to help you out with this one, or do you see your 100% contradiction between your theory in Oxford and your theory in GQ?]
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  5. Let's randomly punch in to JP at 22:00: 'Post modernists can't solve the problem of how to orient yourself in the world. They rely on something. Truth isn't post modern, there is more of one truth, an ethic has evolved, civilized human behavior, the interactions of paired entities follow a pattern...blahblahblah. Jumping to 51:00 'If you become more egalitarian, men and women become more different...this guy is so full of crap. Is he trying to say that when US women got full rights to work and vote etc they became more different than men? No they didn't Jordan, they became more similar to men in the types of work they sought, their roles in management, legislature etc.
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  6. Let's see if JP is smart... "Complex and simple biological creatures have to move forward in the world, we need things to keep us alive, we move towards things we value, you move towards things that you value, to move towards a place with advantages, point A may be difficult, life is suffering, people can transcend that by pursuing things of value, people who have no purpose are bitter, social creatures compete and cooperate, thus a hierarchy of competence will develop, people vary in their ability, some are good in the pursuit of value, a minority will be fantastic and many will stack up at the bottom, then you will have inequality, if you demolish hierarchies you demolish value, but hierarchies tend towards tyranny where people with power, it is unjust and unfair, that is not good..." [Let's break this down. Animals move towards things they want...duh. People with no purpose are bitter...duh. Social creatures compete with other social creatures...duh. Some people are better at some things than other people...super duh. Hierarchies can become too steep and unfair where people with power take advantage of people without power...super duh.]
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  7. 6:00 People vary in competence and thus there will be a hierarchy, most of the people stack up at the bottom, then you have inequality and that is a problem, to their credit, the hierarchies tend to a form of tyranny, power can attain status in the hierarchy, if it is too steep it is unfair and unjust, the right is admire and support hierarchies, liberals generate new hierarchies... A society formed of conservatives is static, a society of liberals is bad at generating actualities, hierarchy is inescapable, but it produces negative consequence, you need hierarchies, the poor will be a chronic functional problem... [Any fans here, did JP say anything that everyone in the world doesn't already know.?? Liberals are bad at actualities? Stop just making stuff up Jordan and that you know what all liberals do or can or cannot do.] You need to describe and perceive the world at different levels of resolution....you use a thumbnail, it is a type of cognitive process, we need a low resolution theory an agreed upon narrative how we can move forward, that comes in two forms, collectivist form, chimps kill other chimps in tribes, the collectivist view looks at the tribe people belong to... [Peterson trying to word salad the most basic ideas imaginable into some kind of academic discussion.]
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