Comments by "Michael Houdecki" (@michaelhoudecki3657) on "Christmas Was Not a Pagan Holiday: How To Shut Down Family Idiot Arguing Otherwise" video.

By the way, the argument isn't that Christmas is descended from pagan celebrations, people say the gift giving and tree are pagan, and they're correct. edit: also, Christmas wasn't commercialized with gifts and junk 'til the late 1800s or early 1900s if memory serves...
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@SimoneandMalcolm Giving gifts on anyone's birthday is not Christian -gift giving on birthdays is a pagan tradition. I'm still listening for more history - I like your guys' deep dives.
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@LupinGaius-ls1or No it's not lol (in reply to your first sentence)
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@SimoneandMalcolm I'm having a stroke-level memory lapse right now on the tree (literally all the details escape me lol). Do you have a public facing email I can link you later when I find additional info? It'll obviously be contradictory, but it'll be interesting to look at, if you want. Maybe it's not credible or more credible than your source etc.
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@SimoneandMalcolm There was more to the comment of the birthday thing, but I removed it to try to keep things relevant - I left that one sentence as an interesting tidbit of information, but in hindsight I should have removed the whole thing. Basically, Christians don't give gifts on birthdays or make wishes to strange spirits, or perform rituals with fire celebrating the self. Christian behaviours and beliefs are outlined in the Bible, and when some newspaper contradicts it, the newspaper can be disregarded. History is written by the victors, and the occult (for lack of an easier descriptor) have been influential throughout history, and have had access to the press. A lot of occult practices and beliefs have crept into the church over the years, so much so, actually, that do as thou wilt has basically become the essence of the teachings of the Catholic church today. It's obvious what's happened... Decorating a tree and celebrating around it is a pagan behaviour. The fact that it was added to Christmas some time in the past just shows pagan beliefs influenced Christmas celebrations somehow. If I had to bet, I'd probably say through surreptitious means, slow and steady infiltration by pagans. Why? Because it's a well established pattern.
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@michaels4255 It's deleted two of my comments here too. I saw your first comment, so it appeared for a bit of time. You see mine? (it was really really long (for a youtube comment), 5 paragraphs of 4-7 sentences)
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