Comments by "Newbie Prepper" (@newbieprepper8451) on "Ex-Cop Derek Chauvin Found Guilty Of All Charges" video.

how quickly people like you forget, in 2018 a jury found Chicago police officer Van Dyke guilty of second degree murder and 16 counts of battery, 1 count for each bullet he fired. but i guess we forget about that day right?
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@dontaylor7315 no, Van Dyke is a white cop, in Chicago, he shot at a black teen and killed him in the middle of the street. A white cop convicted of second degree murder and 16 counts of battery, each count was for each bullet fired. So my response to the OP post about how this Chain case is a first case in history is correct. There are plenty of other cases out there. There is the TX white woman cop who got convicted for killing her neighbor and claiming that she thought it was her own house. There is the case of the Asian cop so got convicted and sentenced to 320+ years for multiple counts of tape. Claiming that this case is the first one in history is wrong, unless you forget all those other cases.
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@gar915 so he had 25 reports of abuse, were they credible reports? what if i get 25 women to report you as a sexual abuser, does that make you one? every criminal out there claims the police abused them just like every criminal behind bars claims they didnt do it.
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@Hugh_I if he was crushing down on his neck then why didnt the autopsy report show damage to the neck? and why is it the prosecution expert witnesses could not say that was the definitive cause of death? i watched the trial, not just news snippets. the prosecutions star witnesses stated that he used less force than he was allowed to under the circumstances, and there was no damage showing done to the neck, and they couldnt for sure confirm if that was even the cause of death. just remember, you will suffer under the system of justice that you build.
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@SteveMKoch yea, as i said, how quickly you forget. McDonalds murder case was concluded in 2018, and you forgot about it, im wondering how many you dont even know about because you dont hear about them. and as for there should have been many more? how many more? the FBI confirmed that in 2019 there were 9 unarmed black men killed by police, so not many more, and i dont have the time or patience to try to find every single case out there. but yea, you are right, nothing really changed since McDonald murder. nothing really changed since the Rodney King cops got off which sparked the L.A. riots. and where do these things happen? mostly in large urban areas run by democrats for generations. McDonald was murdered in Chicago, run by democrats from the top down to the bottom. thats like you being pissed at the wolf guarding your chickens for eating the chickens so you get a new wolf to guard your chickens and then wondering why your chickens are still being eaten.
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@neveklund3267 it could also lead to a worse future. imagine cops leaving the force because they will get charged with murder and conviced for doing their job as they are trained to do. tell me how cities will look with no police or innefective police.
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@neveklund3267 yes, but what you are demonstrating is that you will punish cops no matter what, good or bad. Tell me, when was the last time you heard the mob actually stand up for a cop? When the mob claims all cops are bad, do they distinguish between the bad and good cops? The message the mob is sending is that no matter what, the system will not stand by the police. Why would a good cop want to be a cop when no matter what he does the mob and the system will not support him. Brown in MN was shot by a cop, Obama own DOJ led by Eric Holder put out a report stating that the cop did nothing wrong and was justified, the mob demanded the cop be prosecuted and imprissoned. It started the whole BLM movement. The cop who shot the drunk driver in the Wendy's parking lot, even though the drunk fought with and attacked both cops and took one of their weapons and shot a cop on the face, the mob claims it was murder and demands that cop be punished. Would you take a job that puts you in danger and allows for people to shoot you in the face and you can't do anything about it or else you could face prison? When have you seen the mob stand up and defend a cop when there was an altercation? There is no such event. You can punish all the bad cops you want, but when you start allowing the mob to dictate justice arbitrarily against every cop for every infraction, no one will want to be a cop anymore. Seattle is losing cops and they can't replace them because they are falling short on applicants. MN had to call in cops from other states to help because they are short. Minneapolis voted to defund their police and now they are backtracking and actually spending more just for sign up bonuses to hire cops to replace the ones that quit and they are falling short. Other countries don't have the cops quitting like we do but then again other countries don't have the group hatred of cops like we do, they recognize that there are bad cops and they target those individuals instead of having mobs running through the streets chanting how all cops are bad. You need to open your eyes before it's too late, because you will find yourself in a lawless land with no police at the mercy of whatever gangland decides to allow you to live. You think only bad cops will leave? I'm watching bad cops leaving because they don't want to face the consequences and good cops leaving because they don't want to risk their lives to the mob mentality. The message the mob is putting out there is that no matter what a cop does he is wrong and evil.
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@neveklund3267 i would tend to agree, reforms in policing are long overdue, but you wont get them by electing the same people that built the system to what it is and you wont get them by destroying the whole system either.
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@mrdo_LA without the threat of mob violence and Maxine Waters stoking the fires he would be out.
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@Metjammer of course its going to go ot appeal on many grounds, witness tampering, failure to sequester the jury which allowed jury intimidation, political commentary adding to jeapordize the fair trial ammendment.
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@williardbillmore5713 scotus re-hears murder cases all the time, very prominent case was heard recently, 2018 SCOTUS ruling on McCOY v. LOUISIANA, No. 16-8255, where SCOTUS ruled in favor of a black man convicted of murder granting him a new trial because his 6th amendment right was violated, thats just one case out of many in which he appealed all the way to the supreme court. any appeal can be denied, it doesnt end the appeals process. as a defense for the defendant, you can appeal and keep appealing until you reach the supreme court. it is rare for any appeals court to overturn a lower courts ruling, most of the time an appeals court will rule either in favor of the lower court or in favor of the defendent and order a new trial. SCOTUS is the highest appeals court in the land, that is all it is, an appeals court. you cant start your case in SCOTUS, you can only appeal and keep appealing until you reach scotus. think of them as the top rung of the judicial ladder.
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@dontaylor7315 scotus should not re-hear murder cases? and why not? please specify why SCOTUS should not re-hear cases in which the government is actively trying to deprive you of liberty and life? what should SCOTUS's job be then?
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@virajpatel3865 care to elaborate what hate and falsehoods Chauvin were spreading?
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@philliprogers964 you are right, police officers should be afraid, and the people should be afraid even more, because eventually you will be asking why crime is runing rampant and criminals are allowed to run free, and the only answer will be that cops are afraid of causing them any harm.
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@williardbillmore5713 you think it wont get appealed? lets make a bet on it, im willing to bet that it WILL get appealed. various politicians were making statements in favor of a guilty plea and pushing for violence and riots to the point that the judge himself commented that their comments could lead to overturning the conviction. its called jury tampering and violates your right to due process and a fair trial by your peers. the 6th amendment guarantees the right to a trial by an impartial jury, and you can not tell me or anyone in good faith that the jury was not swayed by politicians like Maxine Waters and Joe Biden (PRESIDENT) making public statements in favor of convictions, or they were not swayed by the possibility of riots occuring if they did not convict.
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@philliprogers964 i completely agree with you that cops need more training, but waiting a few seconds can turn into a deadly situation. when should this "wait a few seconds" rule be enacted exactly? is it when a suspect starts pulling a gun, wait a few seconds till a criminal pulls his gun and fires, then its OK to consider it a threat? when do you start putting some of the blame and responsibility on the criminals? example - Toledo shooting in Chicago recently. cops respond to shots fired, cops come to the scene, Toledo runs off with a gun and cops know it.. cops chase toledo down an alley for a block, taking more than a few seconds. still wait a couple of seconds to decide if Toledo is a threat? Daunte Wright - was being arrested after a traffic stop on a warrant for a weapons violation, during his handcuffing he breaks free and starts reaching into his vehicle. should the cops stand around for a few seconds waiting for Wright to turn around and shoot them with the gun he possibly had before confirming if he is a threat? Jacob Blake - police are called out to a "domestic disturbance". woman claims Jacob Blake sexually assaulted her, police come out and chase Blake around till he gets to his vehicle and reaches into his vehicle. cops shoot him. should they have stopped and waited around for a couple of seconds waiting for Blake to pull out the knife he had in his car and start stabbing people before deeming him a threat? i agree police need more training, more specialized training, but you cant say that they need to wait a couple of seconds to se if its a threat when they are assesing the situation the whole entire time with a possible perpetrator that at times is acting in an aggressive and threatening manner. but i concede there are also cases where cops act without thinking. example, two cops answer a call of someone at a park with a gun, they get to the park and hop out of their car and start immediately firing at a kid with a BB gun, i believe they were charged. another example is Van Dyke in Chicago, rolls up on a police scene, hops out of his vehicle and within a second or two guns down McDonald, he has been convicted on multiple counts. a black man in a Walmart in OH i believe, was in the store and picked up a BB gun from a shelf and was looking to purchase it and walked around looking for an associate, someone called the cops and the cops opened fire immediately upon arriving. there are various other cases. thah wait a couple of seconds rule would only apply to cops arriving fresh on a scene, not ones that are already on the scene.
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@dontaylor7315 yes i did, your comment, "SCOTUS never re-hears a simple murder case," and shouldn't, but the court has been altered enough in recent years that it's not impossible. even if its a simple murder case, explain to me why you feel its fine for SCOTUS to not rehear a murder case where the defendants freedom and life are at stake? how many people have been sent to death row and executed that we later found were innocent? enough for various states to suspend the death penalty. im sorry, but no matter how simple a case may be, if it involves your life, then it should be taken everywhere and every possible course of action should be exhausted. tell me if it was your life, would you be ok if you were not allowed to appeal to the supreme court because it was a simple case? Jim Burke was a police commander in Chicago, who tortured confessions out of young black men for various crimes, including murder. no case gets simpler than a murder weapon and a confession. the state is afraid to even look into the matter too closely because they are afraid of opening up that can of worms. how many innocent young men went to death row and were executed and it was a simple case? i would hate to think that as a society, we are willing to throw peoples lives away because we deem it simple. perhaps you should look up Blackstones calculation.
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@williardbillmore5713 years years sure, justify your stance anyway you want to reinforce you opinion. In my opinion he will appeal and an appeals court will hear it and will at least grant a new trial. The judge even admitted that when he commented that Waters comments would lead to an overturning of the conviction. No one has to prove that they jury was for sure seayed, all they have to do is show that the jury was possibly swayed.
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Styx they were telling Toledo to put his hands up for a whole minute before he did, and when he finally did it was after a chase and a split second before dumping the weapon which he had in his hands and using his body to block the cops view. its nice to know you are willing to stretch the truth and omit facts to justify defending a gangbanger that would potentially shoot little kids with stray bullets.
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so how do you propose fixing it, give some points on how to fix it, give some changes you would want implemented.
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you can be happy about seeing this verdict all you want, what im seeing is a case where the witnesses for the prosecution admitted that they cant confirm the cause of death, and that the officer used less force than he was allowed. wonder how happy you will be when cops start leaving the police force en mass and no one is left to answer that 911 call.
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