Comments by "Newbie Prepper" (@newbieprepper8451) on "NRA Bragged About AR-15 Ruling Week Before Boulder Massacre With AR-15" video.
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@KL-lt8rc do you get rid of your airbags in yoru car because some have caused injury or death? no you dont. do you get rid of the seatbelt in your car because it has caused a couple of injuries and deaths? no you dont.
your statistic is not something i ignore, i am aware of it, but with proper training that risk can be mitigated. fun fact for you, NONE of my guns have ever so much as ever been pointed at a person in the whole time i have owned them, and every single one of them i bought brand new, here is another fun fact for you, according to a CDC study commisioned by the Obama administration in 2014, it was found that up to 3,500,000 crimes were prevented with guns by private individuals, not cops. i personally think that number may be high, the study also cited that on the low end that number could be as low as 750,000 crimes prevente, i personally think that number may be low but probably closer to the real number. so i would settle on 1,000,000 crimes prevented by gun use compared to less than 400 people killed by riffles per year.
remember, when seconds count, the police are minutes away, and my AR in my daughters hands can unload several thousand rounds in that time.
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@pluubooruu spoken like a scholar, thumbs up from me. your second paragraph i agree with you on about the repubs, there is a schizm but they are still unified on some core principles. as for your first paragraph, i would have to disagree with you on the democrats / lefties. it seems like they are either still unified on some core elements or at least supportive of each others elements or beliefs or policies, and this can be demonstrated in congresional voting patterns. there are more republicans that cross the isle to work with democrats than democrats crossing the isle to work with republicans. as an example, lets take AOC for instance, she railed against the previous stimulus bill claiming that $600 was an insult but then voted in favor of it. Tlaib at least stuck to her principles, and though i may not like her, i will respect her for that. looking at the impeachment votes, both votes every democrat voted in favor while some repubs crossed the line. Kavanaugh hearings and confirmation vote, ever democrat voted against and some republicans crossed the line.
its one thing to claim to be a progressive / left and not like democrats, but if you still support democrat innitiatives (in some cases calling them out) then all you really are is just paying lip service. its kind of like Antifa claiming to be anti-fascist while using fascist tactics to browbeat their opposition, even coming down to practically wearing a uniform.
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@antoniojohnson104 yea, you dont have mass shootings in Canada, then again Canada is more homogenous and less segregated than the US. and yes, ALL of the time it DOES take a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun, how do you think these mass shootings end? the shooter lays his weapon down and says "ok, i had enough fun for one day" and goes to the police to turn himself in? funny how these mass shootings never occur in gun shops or gun ranges where there are more guns than people. and if you KNEW anything at all about gun safety you would know that these "good guys with guns" dont wait till 8 or 9 people are dead, they are doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing, they are defending themselves, its not their job to be a vigilante and run around protecting everyone else. but yea, you go on claiming your failed lie of "white people always just get arrested", stupid dunce dont even know statistics, more white people have been shot and killed by cops than black people, THAT IS A FACT you racist.
my second amendment right is working just fine for me and my family, we are all armed and we are all alive, im guessing the people that died didnt use their second amendment because none of them were armed. the second amendment is not all about guns and thats it, its much more than that, its about self preservation as it stems from natural laws, but i wouldnt expect you to understand that, you are a simple subject to be ruled over and kept like a pet.
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@KL-lt8rc an AR IS my security at home, when i go groery shopping i strap something more comfortable for the occasion. im not gonna deny that i like my cool toys, but im also not going to deny the statistics that you are oblivious to, and im not going to deny myself options simply because you dont like them. at home my AR is my first line of defense, and i have my reasons for that, reasons that you are most likely oblivious to. but hey, when your door gets knocked in by 3 or 4 guys and they shoot your dog, maybe you can CPR them to death while explaining the merits of your security system that you pay for that was dissabled.
look i know CPR, its not going to do any good while there is a gun pointed at me or bullets flying at me, i cant CPR the bad guy away. and where i live, no dogs allowed per HOA rules, that leaves security system, either a stand alone or a monthly subscription to one, i have a stand alone. its like having a car, would you toss out the airbags because you have seatbelts? would you toss our the crumple zones and reinforced frame because you have airbags? its funny how everything you go for you want more security, the more the better, safer cars, safer online banking, more security for everything except when it comes to your family, then you want to delegate that responsibility away from yourself and delegate it to someone else whose track record you doubt anyway (government)
FBI statistics, a little over 1,000,000 home invasions per year. home invasion is defined as an intrusion into a living domacile while the occupant is present. 60% of those are by 2 or more perpetrators, and 40% are by 3 or more perpetrators. NYPD statistics show that trained officers have a 30% hit ratio at a target on a range at 15 feet during nominal conditions, meaning target standing still, no stress, good lighting and visibility. that ratio drops when there is movement and poor visibility and stress. so in good conditions, 3 bullets will hit your target out of 10. FBI statistics also show that only 28% of people shot were 1 shot stops, meaning 1 bullet stopped the assailant. so on a good day, if my home is invaded by 3 guys, i better pray my aim is true and perfect, and each shot is a headshot, because anything less and me and my family is dead. so yea, i'll take my AR with the 60 round drum mag because it gives my family the best chance of surviving.
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@KL-lt8rc so my argument stands, you DONT get rid of your airbags in your car, if they are malfunctioning then you replace them with ones that operate properly, im talking about ones that operate properly, they can and do in some instances cause injury and death, but you still dont get rid of them. as for making guns more secure and safe? how so? with what?
yes, i understand that the CDC study was mostly self reported, thats why i admitted that the 3,500,000 number was way too high, but the 750,000 low number is an actual number that the CDC stated was confirmed by multiple accounts and valid, so ummmmm, you dont believe in the science if it doesnt support whatever your narrative you like?
yes, i use the number 400 killed by riffles because we are discussing the AR-15, which is a rifle, not classified as a pistol unless it is manufactured in a pistol form, you can not legally modify an AR-15 riffle into an AR-15 pistol, its illegal according to the feds and ATF as it would violate the NFA. try to stay on topic as we are talking about RIFFLES.
i am staying on topic and not switching anything mid argument, i would call it a discusison, but to each his own. we are discussing the AR-15 riffle, and so me posting information pertinent to the AR-15 in our discussion is correct, but since you refference the link i posted and claimed that all gun deaths have been dropping, that was a different post to a different person. so either you are either a troll running multiple accounts and are getting confused, or your argument is so weak that you need to bring in parts of other arguments to try and support your flimsy foundation. my post with the link was in response to another poster claiming that gun murders have been rising since Trump got into office.
and yes, i read the Scientific America article, do i agree with it completely, no, crime is crime, its like saying most crime can be eliminated if you eliminate the guns that cause crime, doesnt quite work for countries that eliminated guns and still have crime.
now for the 40,000 deaths by guns, the majority of those are either suicides or accidents, and in the cases of accidents, usually the shooter faces murder charges, personally i feel that is apropriate and the accidental shootings should be more scrutinized and sifted through to figure out if the accidental shooting was self inflicted and moved to the suicide column or if it was accidentally shooting another person and moved to the MURDER column. but trying to use the 40,000 gun deaths per year argument to justify those as gun crimes is disingenuous at best, would you call for car accidents to be treated as crimes all the time? no you wouldnt. as for the suicide portion, Japan has a high suicide rate and i believe in 2018 or 2017 there was only 3 suicides by guns, while the rest chose other methods such as strangulation or poison, do we treat rope as an evil weapon?
but the gist of it is this, i am comfortable with my AR and my various other firearms, im not convincing anyone else that they must get one, if you dont want one, thats perfectly fine, but you are trying to get them taken away from me over your personal feelings, if thye are dangerous for your family, by all means, dont get one, stay away from them, not everyone is competent enough to handle a firearm, hence the accidental shootings, but it is still up to everyone to decide for themselves. but if you are worried about being killed or injured by a bad guy, then stay at home and dont come out, the world is a dangerous place. or you could move to a safe country like England, there you dont have to worry about a scary AR, just the mass stabbings that so far put Londons murder rate above NYC. of you could move to France, no scary ARs there, just the occasional truck plowing through crowds, maybe Japan where you have to deal with a crazy cult gas attack once in a while.
or maybe, just maybe, you can start asking how to really stop these shootings instead of figuring out how to make people defenseless and dependent. its like a farmer punishing the sheep because the wolf has teeth. why is there no mass shootings in gun shops, and gun shows, and gun ranges? i mena there are more guns than people there, those scary fully semiauto assault guns should be able to knock out half the worlds population with the number that are present. why is it that you are OK with securing a bank with armed security but think your schools deserve less than that?
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@estherc.5559 its not about agreeing with a narrative, its about common sense. Mexico banned guns, and there is only 1 gun store in the entire country, yet somehow 25,000 people were murdered with guns in 2019, actual homicides. as far as if everyone was armed would the shooter kill less? maybe, maybe not. i do remember seeing a news story about a year ago in a church, where a gunman pulled out a gun and opened fire, he was taken down after he got 1 shot off, several church patrons whipped out their guns and took him down. i also remember many years ago in TX, there was a gun shop robbery, suspect went into the store with a cop car parked in front, pulled out a gun and said this is a stick up, he got no shots off, although he was shot 46 times by the patrons and store enployees and the cop, there was a total of 47 shots fired, 46 hit target, 1 stray round hit the ceiling.
but having everyone armed would mean frocing people to be armed against their wishes, i dont want to force people to be armed in the same way i dont want them to disarm me. it should be a choice.
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