Comments by "Newbie Prepper" (@newbieprepper8451) on "8-Year-Old Unfazed By Her 2nd Shooting Goes Viral" video.
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@Gezira yea, its proven that repressive measures do not work. i forget which Scandanavian country did it, but they took a whole new approach to criminal rehabilitation, i personally dont like it for my own reasons, but i admit their numbers and data are very compelling, and i would not be against implementing such tactics here in the states, but again, its a criminal rehabilitation problem, they still have a police force to drag away the criminals. so when you say cops are the problem, you are wrong.
and yes, i would agree with you that a lot of crime is caused by social problems, the biggest one being poverty, but that not a cop problem either. so yea, start working on fixing some of the social ills to solve some of these social problems that result in crime, but dont sit there and blame cops.
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@kmac10027 those are a tiny number con=mpared to the gang violence that occurs in Chicago, and half of those are committed by people who have their guns illegally. i live in Chicago, and lo and behold, we have Canada style gun laws, we have to have a "license" in the form of an FOID card in order to buy a gun or ammo, and yes, we even have waiting period of at least 5-10 days from the purchase date to the pick up date, about the only thing we dont have is the mandatory training, but then again, i dont know what kind of training you could instill on a grownup to say that shooting people is wrong that the same grownup hasnt learned in his lifetime already of what is right and what is wrong.
but i understand, you want to protect the criminals, so instead of going after them you would rather go after law abiding citizens because its easier.
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@degummybear yes, history is littered with the corpses of societies that felt it was the responsibility to create laws to make their society a better one by taking away peoples rights.
prove to me that you are a reasonable person by admitting that most crime is caused by criminals and not by law abiding citizens.
you want to be more selective about who gets guns? sure, can we also be more selective about who gets to vote? who gets to speak freely? who gets to worship whatever god they want to in their own way? can we be more selective in who should be allowed to drive? we had a system that was more selective over who could enjoy their basic human rights that are protected by the constitution and the bill of rights, it wasnt a good system, we fought a war over it.
the way things are is not perfectly fine, but its not because people own guns, i own several, i have many friends that own multiple guns, not a single one of those guns ever has been used in a crime or so much as pointed at a person. but you want to implement a system of laws that will come to my door and do what? verify that im a good guy and im allowed to own a weapon? are you going to go knocking on the criminals doors too?
you fail to understand the reasoning and the spirit behind the 2nd amendment, its not about guns, its about having the ability to protect yourself from an agressor, it stems from natural law where god gave you the ability and the right of self preservation against predators.
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@nzuckman the largest amount of murders committed on US soil was on 9/11 where guys armed with box cutters murdered over 3000 people. in China, a man with a meat cleaver went around and butchered 26 people at a school before authorities were even called. a man in Japan murdered 7 people standing at a crowded bus stop with a knife before anyone even realized what was happening.
im not against regulating gun ownership, but you are not even proposing regulating gun ownership, you are simply proposing punishing gun owners over hte actions of criminals while not holding the criminals to any culpability.
we already have regulations on gun ownership. funny how 18 year olds cant buy handguns. funny how some guns are completely outlawed in some cities or states. funny how every gun purchase needs an ID and a background check, and when i say ID, its pretty stringent. for example, in Chicago, if i go to my local gun shop, i have to present 3 ID cards, my state drivers or ID, my resident alien card, and my FOID card which is the firearm owners ID given by the IL state police after a 30 day waiting period AND a full FBI background check. how many IDs do you need to board a plane? or to buy a car? or better yet, how many ID's do you need to go and vote?
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@juresichj oh INDIANA you say? tell you what, lets make a deal hall we? i live in Chicago IL, Indiana is only a few minutes drive for me (30-60 minutes). but tell you what. come down here, we hop in my car, and we drive to Indiana for me to buy a gun, since most of those laws in Indiana dont exist, it should be easier right?
here is the deal, if i can walk out of an Indiana gun shop with a gun, i will give you a check for the value of that gun. but if i run into a hassle or something and i dont walk out with a gun, then YOU give me a check for the value of the gun. i will even give you the advantage of picking the gun shop and picking the gun itself.
last time i went to Indiana and stopped at a gunshop, i purchased a gun, a small 22 pistol. at which point, before even letting me look at the gun, the clerk behind the counter asked me for an ID, i gave him my IL state drivers license, noticing that, he asked for my FOID, which i had to show him that also. my friend was with me who lives in IN and only had to show his IN drivers license. now that the clerk had my ID and my FOID, he allowed me to look at the gun, i liked it so i bought it. the sales process went like this, i paid for the gun, they made me fill out a 4470 background check form, and they made me fill out ANOTHER form indicating which FFL (federal Firearm License) shop in IL they should send the gun to, because since i am from IL, i can not buy it in IN and take it home to IL. so i gave them info for my local gun shop which is an FFL dealer, they then verified with the FBI and the FFL dealer that they were legit and can receive shipment of my firearm. so home i went, $300 lighter and empty hands. my gun arrived at my local FFL in IL, they called me to inform me that they received it. this was about 2 weeks AFTER i had already paid for it, because you know, the first store in IN had to run the background check and wait a week for that to clear before they could even ship the gun to IL. so anyway, i go to my local gun shop in IL to pick up my new gun, and lo and behold, i have to go through ANOTHER background check, to pick it up you see. so i fill out another 4470 background check form, and wait another 5 days in order to pick up a gun that i already paid for and ALREADY did a background check when i bought it.
but yea, you believe the BS that you have been fed that its so easy, lets go and do this, i would like a new free gun.
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@juresichj as an addition to my earlier comment, that was from a larger dealer, Cabellas. some smaller gun shops will refuse to sell to out of state people because nationally there are over 20,000 gun laws and regulations across the country, and while a gun shop in IN will know the laws for IN and various cities, they may not be familiar with some obscure laws in other states.
fun story, my brother, who lives in Chicago, was traveling to Indianapolis for a convention, driving back through Indiana he stopped in a small town to fill up on gas and food and saw a gun shop in town so he went in (small town with small gun shop). he saw a chrome .357 Python, an iconic gun, and he wanted to buy it, it was $1400, so he whips out his credit card and his IDs and the clerk looked at his IL state drivers license and told him they cant sell him a gun since he is from out of state. he came back to Chicago, went to our local gun shop, and talked to them, they could buy the gun since they are an FFL, and then they could sell it to him for a 25% value fee. so an extra $350 just so our local gun shop can reach out to the small gunshop in IN and buy the python in thier name and transfer it to Chicago and then he could pay for it and do the normal background check and various fees and blah blah blah, a month later and $2000 out of pocket and he had his gun.
so lets both of us go shopping in IN for a gun, see how easy it really is.
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@juresichj half your list sounds like a reasonable list of quality items to have in a society, the other half sounds like a bunch of "gimme gimme freebie" nonsense.
1. end the war on drugs - i completely agree, its a useless war and has been from the start. if you want to put something in your body, put whatever you want in your body, its none of anyone elses business but your own.
2. pay stay at home mom (UBI) - no, at best i would say maybe pay one parent to stay at home, why is it have to be the mom? me being a single dad, i raised my daughter alone from the time she was 2 till she was 21. but still no, if you want to have a family, then work to have a family, why is it anyone elses responsibility to pay for your family? why is it YOUR responsibility to pay for anyone elses family?
3. affordable housing - i would agree with that idea, but it solves nothing if the underlying social problem of poverty is not solved. here in Chicago, we used to have those high rise ghetto slums, the city built up new affordable housing to move people of of those slums, nice townhouses. they moved the people out of those slums and tore them down. that was at least 10 or more years ago. right now, those affordable housing townhouses are the new slums, all tore down. its the quality of people living in there, if you have poverty it will blight the area.
4. fully fund college - no, why should i be forced to pay for someone elses education? i could understand maybe some degrees, such as doctors, or engineers, or even STEM degrees, but not all college. i seen a story a couple of days ago about a guy with a $300,000 student debt for a history preservation degree, another with $250,000 student debt in drama and theater degrees. and how many colleges offer paid courses for frivolous things such as "lesbian dance theory" or "underwater basket weaving". you want to pay for stupid things like that, go ahead, but remember, you are advocating for government waste of tax dollars.
5. after school activities - sbsolutely completely in favor of such things. if you keep kids involved and occupied in something, then there is a lower chance of those kids winding up on the street getting involved in something bad. make those programs somewhat educational. chess clubs, math clubs, science clubs, chemistry clubs, outdoors camping clubs. anything and everything under the sun. school just teaches kids about facts, after school activities can peak interests in kids that they didnt know they had.
6. fully fund daycare and preschool - no and yes, no to the daycare, yes to the preeschool. but the waters get muddied between the two to where you cant distinguish between them. but still, why should anyone be forced to pay for other peoples kids?
7. drug rehab - yes, fund drug rehab, end the war on drugs, start legalizing drugs, and start taxing them, and start using that tax revenue for rehab centers. Evanston IL implemented a new regulation, where tax proceeds from legal marijuana sales will be used for "reperations", meaning they will be used to help black people buy homes. i hate that idea for the simple reason that firstly, its a program that excludes anyone else from being able to apply simply based on their race, and secondly, that tax money should be used to help societal problems, such as drug addiction.
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@ColeDaniels you call me dense and you dont even understand the basics of the topic itself.
yes, i hate that the money is spent in such a way, but i like the results, so i would not be opposed to to having my taxes spent on such a form of criminal rehab, in the same way that most people hate seeing an animal killed, but love going to get their burgers and buckets of fried chicken.
the difference between alternative criminal rehab and UBI is that one is a program that instills corrective action with positive reinforcement which garners long term results, while the other is nothing more than a simple handout that builds dependence and doesnt provide success. its the same reason you see signs posted in zoos telling you NOT TO FEED THE ANIMALS.
i would say you are dense for not understanding the difference between UBI and alternative criminal rehab, but i would say you are just willfully ignorant for even thinking that they are the same.
now let me see, looking back, the last president we had before this one wanted to pull troops out of the middle east, and started to pull them out of Syria, and useless twits like you cried about "our allies blah blah", so you can stick your whole "got the government i wanted" where the sun dont shine. i supported Obama because he promised to end the wars, and instead we got more wars and expanded wars and, ohh yea, A FREAKING SLAVE MARKET IN AFRICA. thanks Obama. after 8 years of lies i decided to support a different man who promised to end the wars instead of the woman who worked in the OBAMA administration that gave us more wars, and for that i got called a racist by people who supported the current president that was so racist he authored the 94 crime bill so that his children and grandchildren wouldnt have to live in a racial jungle, AND even got called out on his racism in the debates by his current VP, who used that 94 crime bill to push her own brand of racism and throw black people in prison for extended sentences. the government i deserve is the one that would have stuck to the original agreed upon pull out date in Afghanistan with the Taliban instead of what the current administration did which is extend the date knowing full well that it would exacerbate the situation and extend our stay there.
so let me ask you, WHO DID YOU VOTE FOR? who did you support? was it the current administration in power? because if so, then you have absolutely NO grond to stand on trying to lecture anyone about military spending.
i can understand that needy people need help, but only an imbecile like you would think that throwing money at needy people will alleviate all their problems without getting to the root of the problem.
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@rve420 lies of omission because i didnt mention that its easier to get guns in IN compared to IL? would you like to put your money where your mouth is? lets put your BS hypothesis to the test then.
i live in Chicago, so come on down, you can pick the gun shop in IL where we can go and you can pick the gun in that shop that i must buy, then we can go to IN, and you can pick the gun shop in IN and the gun in that shop that i must buy. and then lets compare both sales and which one is easier. here is the deal, if i have to fill out less paperwork, or if i have a shorter waiting time from payment to have it in my hand or if i have to show less ID's in IN compared to IL, then i will pay you the value of those guns, but if i have a harder time in IN than in IL because i have to wait longer or i cant pick it up at the IN store or i have to fill out more forms or if i have to do more background checks, then YOU pay for those guns, sound fair?
here is a little info for you. in IL i have to show my FOID & my drivers license and my resident alien card, and fill out a background check (and wait for clearance) and pay county taxes. in IN, i have to show my FOID and my drivers license, and my resident alien card, and fill out a background check (and wait for clearance) and pay taxes, AND PAY FOR A TRANSFER FEE to have it shipped to an FFL in IL where i will have to fill out a SECOND background check (and wait for clearance) and pay an ADDITIONAL transfer fee and pay more taxes to pick it up. i know because i have done it before.
let me guess, you dont know jack about buying guns or about laws for buying guns do you?
how about this, I PICK THE GUN SHOP IN INDIANA, becaue i know of quite a few that simply refuse to sell a gun to anyopne from out of state, nut just from IL, but anyone from out of any state.
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