Comments by "Newbie Prepper" (@newbieprepper8451) on "Jason Johnson Stuns Morning Joe With Good Politics" video.
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i have a question? WHO HOLDS THE GOVERNMENTS PURSESTRINGS? the house of course. if people are falling by the wayside its becaue the government is failing them, doesnt matter if its democrat or republican or anything else. the last stimulus bill that was passed was enough to give every single man and woman and child living in the united states, citizen and illegal, literally EVERYONE in the US a $2700 check. so a single mom with 1 kid would have gotten $5400. but instead only about 1/3 of the population got $600, the 1/3 that was verified as employed. the rest of that money went to foreign aid and various other pet projects for politicians. plenty of blame on both sides of the isle, republican / democrat, it dont matter, they both got together to screw over the people. the last stimulus gave 10 million to Afghanistan for gender inclusion or some such identity BS, thats 16,666 people that could have gotten a $600 check. it also gave hundreds of millions to Shri Lanka for a speedboat, and billions to Saudi Arabia and various other countries. you think the republicans were the only ones to push this? democrats pushed it too. and if Bernie were in charge nothing would be different, absolutely nothing, because one man, no matter how well intentioned he is, can not stop a group of people (congressmen) backed by an army of idiots (faithful voting followers). perfect example, AOC called out the last stimulus package as fraught with garbage, and then voted in favor of it. at least i can respect Tlaib for calling out the BS and then voting against it, even though i hate her, i can respect her for that.
the government took your money and gave it a fancy name so you wouldnt object when they bent you over and reamed you without even the courtesy of using lube.
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@Dark_Jaguar the rich are already getting taxed, thats not the problem, the problem is that they are using loopholes in the tax code to drop their tax rate to nearly $0. those loopholes were put in place by repubs and dems together. they put those loopholes in to protect themselves because they are rich themselves. an unforseen consequence is that rich people can use those same loopholes. during the 2020 campaign, Warren was pushing the idea of raising taxes higher on people worth over $50 mil, do you know why that exact number? because she is worth just a little under $50 mil, so she has to protect herself. Sanders always ran around complaining about the millionaires and billionaires, right up until he became a millionaire, now he just cries about the billionaires and stays silent about the millionaires.
its not about taxing the rich, its about removing the loopholes, and you aint going to remove the loopholes when you have rich politicians that makes the laws that use those loopholes themselves, get rid of those politicians first, then you can get rid of the loopholes.
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@ohhah1255 wow, so much to read, I at least appreciate that you made an effort to make a point and an argument. And yes, it is mostly the politicians fault. People elect them in the first place, then they do a piss poor job of fighting for our interests and then people keep re-electing them, and they are the ones that enrich themselves and make the laws to make themselves and their friends richer. You think someone like Pelosi or Waters or Biden or Clinton aren't rich? You try to make it sound as if though the politicians and the rich are 2 different things, but they are not. As for where I was born, yea, post petestroika Russia. My parents were born there, and my grandparents. And no, we were not rich landowners, we were the peasant class. And from what was described by my predesessors about Russia, the only difference between the times of pre and post petestroika Russia was the amount of people that the government killed and the name of the guy in charge, not much else was different. Communism works on a small scale, but it is a poor way to run a society on a national level with hundreds of millions of people. Tell me, would you be satisfied working a minimum wage job as long as you were fed the line that it's for the national good and that your work will help someone a thousand miles away? In a capitalist system you work a minimum wage job that benefits a CEO who lives far away. In communist russia, the government forced you to work on a commune farm so that your crops could feed someone else far away. Here is the kicker. If you don't like your capitalist job, you could strive for something better, you could quit and go somewhere else or just not work at all. In communist Russia, yea, if you didn't like your job, the party would find you another job just as shitty. 30 million people died under the communist regime in gulag work camps, 10 million worked themselves to the bone digging a canal outside of Moscow using their bare hands because they had no choice, they were prisoners in the gulags because they were either criminals or those free spirited people that complained about their previous jobs. Yea, I grew up in that regime, as did generations of my family, did you? I doubt it, because if you did you wouldn't want it.
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@ohhah1255 1. of course the system is broken because of the shitty rules and the lack of rules. who put those rules in? the people that are in power now. so what do you expect out of them? do you really expect them to all of a sudden make good rules that dont benefit themselves? "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer" is a saying that is generations old, and there are politicians in government that are generations old. because they have no interest in making good rules to benefit people. so how do you fix that? you have to replace the people in charge of fixing it that are unwilling to do so with people who are willing to do so. simple example for you, you want to raise taxes on people making more than 100,000 per year. which politician is going to vote to make that a law when all of them make over 100k per year. or another example. you want to eliminate lobbyists, which politician is going to vote for a law to eliminate lobyists when all of them make money off lobyist?
2. when i said society has had it for thousands of years, i was referring to graft and bribery for leaders. as for capitalism, as a nationwide system it is reletively young considering we are only a few centuries out from feudalism, but some form of capitalism still existed on a small and limited scale, examples of it exist with the spice trade and the silk trade dating back thousands of years, although it was never incorporated as a national system.
3. i agree, i cant blame a person for being materialistic, its in most peoples nature, and no matter how well intentioned a person may be, i can only recall 3 instances of people not being materialistic, maybe 4. Budha, Jesus, Mother Theresa and Ghandi. its not something you can change realistically, its in our nature, its in every animals nature to a certain extent. we fight over resources, animals also fight over resources, they may be different resources but its still resources.
4. i believe the working people that pay into the system should have a voice in how the system is run, but i would never advocate for socialism, i grew up under a socialist regime and i would never wish that horror on anyone. its not a matter of changing the government or the system, its a matter of changing the people in the system so that the system works for the people again. currently the system works for the elite only, while the people get nothing but scraps, and thats the fault of the politicians running the system.
a. start taking out the politicians that are in government right now that are not working for the people.
b. get new politicians that are loyal to the people to start passing new laws such as term limits and tax reform and campaign finance reform and lobby reform.
c. start actually prosecuting politicians that overstep their boundariesor flagrantly break the law by creating a new branch of government outside of the scope of congress or the executive, perhaps under the judicial branch like a special DOJ answerable only to SCOTUS with a mandate to only prosecute crimes by congress or the executive branch.
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@ohhah1255 ok, let me re-iterate as i was mistaken before, i was born in Pre-perestrika and grew up in pre and post, so i have experience in both, as well as my family who lived and are still living either pre or post. as for reading studies or articles, you can read them to your hearts content, doesnt mean they are honest especially if they were written by bias men with an agenda using info suppllied by biased men with an agenda.
the 30 million figure is the figure of Russians put into gulag camps, the death rate itself is a debated topic because no one is ever going to get the real numbers, same for a lot of other genocides, no one is going to get the real numbers and so they are guestimations at best, but considering that the engineered famine under Stalin resulted in 7-10 million deaths estimated, the number of deaths you give as 3-12 million is way too small. but i digress, i know a capitalist country like the US conspires to kill millions of its own people outright.
now as for socialism allowing workers to reap the benefits and profits of their labor, please tell me how much an average FoxCom worker in socialist China earns compared to the owners of FoxCom? perhaps those suicide nets around the building are there for the owners in case they decide to jump off the building because they are distraught at not becoming rich because they had to give most of their money away to their workers? i appologize, i was being sarcastic there and maybe took a jab when i shouldnt have, my appologies. but still, you can not deny the oppresion that exists under a socialist or communist regime because of a lack of freedoms and upward mobility.
capitalism doesnt prevent pluralism in economics. there are laws in place to safeguard us so we are allowed pluralism. there is nothing stopping you or anyone else from entering the economic stage and exerting your power, from a local small scale to a large scale. on the small scale, you vote with your dollar by doing business with store A and refusing to do business with store B. on a larger scale, you can start up your own business and be successful and become rich and exert your influence upon the market, there is nothing stopping you from doing that. recent examples are people like Bezos and Gates and Dell. Bezos founded Amazon as a small little website and worked on it to make it grow into an international powerhouse. Gates quit college and joined with a group of friends to create a large and influential company. Dell used a $100 loan from his grandmother to create a computer powerhouse company. lets look at Steve Jobs, dropout from college, created a company that is known around the world, all he was armed with was a simple saying, "the customer doesnt know what he wants, its my job to tell the customer what he wants". perhaps those ideas are too complicated for most people, so lets go simpler, a simple guy couldnt afford to get his kids a pet, so he glued some googly eyes to a rock, and then started selling those rocks to other people, last i heard he was a millionaire living in the lap of luxury. a guy i personally know is a truck driver, retired of course, he started when he was young, but he worked at it and now has a fleet of trucks running for him making him money. i get to drive his lambo once in a while if he is feeling extra nice and I ask nicely.
all of these examples are possible under both capitalism and socialism or communism, except for one specific difference, under capitalism, it is yours, under socialism, the government can step in anytime and take it away from you without reason or rhyme. an example is the game Tetris, world famous and in the top 3 most played games in the world. the inventor is a Russian. he earned $0 from his creation, it all went to the government. something that he created on his own was not his.
would you prefer to live and work in a system where your labor is not your own? whats the incentive of working extra hard to create anything new, other than the threat of prison or worse? ever notice that most of the innovations in the private industry (not government/military) were developed in a capitalist system?
you stated that Russia didnt develop light industry, that is true, but mostly because the people were not incentivized to create it, after all, what would a person benefit from working extra hard to make a new factory when they would not benefit from it? would you be willing to work extra on your time off for free to create a new product just to give it away to someone else? im not talking about volunteering for community service of some type, but work yourself to the bone to create a better computer, and then give it away for nothing, or at least just to cover your own costs?
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@ohhah1255 here is your last 2 cents. people in Russia overwhelmingly support the Soviet Union? i guess thats why there was an uprising and why Solidarity movement was created and thats why the Soviet Union disolved, because people were overwhelmingly in favor of it right? thats why people were fleeing the soviet union by any chance they could, because it was so great right? that statement shows that you dont know what you are talking about since it can be debunked so easily. and yea, the US incarcerates a lot more people than the USSR did, but the conditions they are kept under are far better in the US than in the USSR. what do you think, poeple in Russia are not held for months before trial? people in Russia are held for months without charges even. in the older days, people were thrown in the gulags on mere suspicion and worked practically to death. gulags were one step above concentration camps, because it wasnt the camps job to kill you, but if you died from exposure or from exhaustion or malnutrition or disease, oh well. i lived there, i know first hand what went on there, did you? and the only thing that changed about my story is the pre and post perestroika, again, i appologize. i was born pre, lived pre and post.
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@ohhah1255 no plurality in capitalism? how many different gasoline companies can you name? how many different tobbaco companies can you name? how many different computer companies, car manufacturers, phone manufacturers? something as simple as a can of beans is sold at a wide variety of stores (plurality) and is manufactured by a wide variety of manufacturers (plurality) and grown on a wide variety of farms (plurality). just because 70% of businesses fail in their first year doesnt mean the laws are against them, it just means they were crappy businesses, you cant expect to open up a burger joint serving crappy overpriced burgers on a block with 10 other crappy burger joints some of whom serve better and cheaper burgers and expect to succeed. if you fail at your business then you didnt have a good enough business model to make your business succeed. sorry that idea eludes you like a great idea for a business eludes you so you have to blame laws. point out a single law that says anything of the sort such as "any small business must fail blah blah blah" or "no new small business can open here blah blah blah". there are no such laws.
as for the gamestop debacle, i made money on it, made pretty good money on it, and i got out of it. so what if they whined, they were not capitalists protecting capitol, they were rich elites protecting their investments, you think that kind of stuff doesnt happen under socialism or communism or any other type of ism? go to China and try to screw with their system like that, see what the hell happens to you
you whine like a stuck pig "capitalism wah wah wah" while ignoring that the rich around the world keep getting richer while the poor keep getting poorer all while living under whateverISM they feel like living under.
you ignore that its not capitalism thats the problem, because capitalism gives people more of a chance to get ahead in life, its the rich elite thats the problem, and they want you concentrating on something other than them, because if you start contenctrating on them then they are in trouble, but if they distract you with something else then they can go on doing whatever they want and you arent a problem to them. so here you are, running around "capitalism wah wah wah" like a dunce ignorant of reality itself, like a useful idiot. the gamestop debacle happened because those people figured out that its not capitalism thats the problem, its the elite, and thats who they targeted, the elite.
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