Comments by "Newbie Prepper" (@newbieprepper8451) on "Republicans Vote To Starve Hungry Babies" video.
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@fr4ctur71 correct, you are not off base, very nice and thoughtful reply, I appreciate it. The thing is, the shortage is not just of the cheaper brands, it's a shortage of all brands, so opening up the restrictions to allows people to buy brand B and C instead of just brand A doesn't do much if brand B and C are out of stock too. As for hiring more FDA inspectors, I would understand if that was the cause of the shortage itself, a backlog of inspections where the FDA was behind on inspections by several months, but that doesn't seem to be the case either since I haven't heard anyone talking about it. The biggest contributor is one of the major plants getting shut down, that's what caused the shortage as far as I understand, and if that's the case, more inspectors are not going to make the plant reopen.
Makes me wonder how strict are the regulations that only a couple of plants are running in the country and if one of the shuts down we are in trouble?
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@AdamBladeTaylor yes, it does help if you pay attention, something you are not doing.
please tell me how bill 1 allowing you to buy OTHER COMPANIES formula is going to eliminate the shortage of formula if there is a shortage of formula from all companies including OTHER COMPANIES? there is a shortage on ALL formula, so how is bill 1 allowing you to buy other companies formula is going to stop the shortage when there is NO FORMULA to buy?
and no, bill 1 does not allow importing formula and it does not enable more companies to produce it, thats the part you are not paying attention to.
bill 2 doesnt allow the FDA to ensure factories are kept up to standard, thats already in the FDA mandate, you think that the FDA wasnt regulating formula manufacturers before bill 2 came out? all bill 2 does is hire more inspectors, and inspectors dont fix a factory, they just point out problems the factory has, its the factory workers job to fix the factory.
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fine, i'll defendt it.
1. bill 1, The Access to Baby Formula Act will grant the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) the authority to waive
certain requirements so that vulnerable families can continue purchasing safe infant formula with their WIC
benefits during extenuating circumstances, such as a public health emergency or supply chain disruption. The
bill will also ensure that WIC participants are better protected during a product recall.
A. this bill would allow low income families greater latitude in what formulas they can purchase. the problem is THERE IS NO FORMULA to purchase. so you tell me, whats the point of allowing someone to buy more of something that is out of stock? if you go to the store to buy chicken wings and they are out of chicken wings, does it mean that the store magically has chicken wings now on the shelf because you can buy more of them? NO. this is a feel good measure to make it look like democrats are doing something while in reality not adressing the problem itself which is A SHORTAGE. you dont fix a shortage by allowing people to buy more of something that there is none of.
2. bill 2, HR 7790 -- would provide $28 million in emergency funding for the US Food and Drug Administration. The emergency funding would be used to increase the number of FDA inspection staff, provide resources for personnel working on formula issues, help the agency stop fraudulent baby formula from entering the US marketplace, and improve data collection on the formula market, according to a release from the House Appropriations Committee.
A. this bill would give $28 million from TAXPAYERS, thats those working moms trying to buy baby formula, and use it to hire more government workers. in fact, it would hire more of those inspectors that actually shut down baby formula plants. this would NOT alleviate the SHORTAGE we have.
SHORTAGE, meaning, NOT ENOUGH of a product. that $28 million could have been used to buy formula from other countries and imported to the US, sure, it would be a drop in the bucket, but still better than politicians using it to hire their cronnie friends into high paid jobs in the government, notice i say politicians instead of naming one party or the other because they are all complicit.
as for allowing people to buy more of a product that there is a shortage on, its a pointless feelgood measure, it would be a better bill if it allowed people to buy formula from outside the US.
tell me you wouldnt look at someone as if though they were stupid if you went into a store to buy something and it was out of stock and the managers solution would be that he would hire more executives and allow you to buy more of the out of stock item? does it bring the item back in stock?
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@nunyabidnis3815 well, thats where you get the whole prepper thing wrong, let me guess, you probably got your whole idea of "prepper" as you describe from TV shows or something? im not trying to sound harsh or anything, im trying to be polite, so dont get me wrong, but where do you get the idea that preppers are constantly running a program of "how to shoot folks when things get bad, and they probably will"?
i dont have those thoughts, when im at the store picking up any supplies or extra anything, my thoughts are to just pick up my stuff and should i pick up this stuff at this store or is it cheaper at the other store. i dont have any thoughts that things will probably get bad, because in the back of my mind i already know what to do if things get bad, and going to the store or being in large crowds will be the last thing i do. all the preppers that i know of dont think that way even, and none of us wish for things to get bad.
most preppers that i know dont have "multiple" guns, because most preppers have plans to be mobile too if things get too horrible, there is a bug in plan and a bug out plan. if a nuke hits the city there is no bugging in, you have to bug out, what are you going to do with 7 riffles and 20 pistols, you cant carry that many. true some preppers collect guns, but then again, lots of people collect guns that dont fall into the prepper persona. most preppers have a couple of guns, for example, i have 6 guns for a family of 3 people, a riffle and a pistol per person, my brother has 5 guns for his family of 2, my brother in law has 3 pistols and a riffle and just recently got a shotgun, for a family of 5, several other preppers i know have 1-3 guns per person in their family and some specialize in 1 gun, i also have a prepper friend who has NO guns.
as for dealing with people, there is not much difference between a prepper and an anarchist, both have a philosophy of "you do you and i do me, and leave me alone and ill leave you alone". most preppers dont go around thinking about how to clear out a large crowd with a gun and how to shoot folks, because its easier to just avoid large groups of folks and conserve resources rather than push a bad situation and loose, preppers are about preparing for if the government drops the ball or isnt fast enough to pick up the ball in an event, its about surviving an event and thriving post event, you dont really survive or thrive if your objective it to "shoot folks when things go bad" because folks sometimes tend to shoot back.
lastly, you said you have ample supplies for hurricane season, that means you prepared as best you can for hurricane season, does that make you a prepper? yes it does, you prepared for an even that is expected in your area, and being a prepper, do you have too many guns and walk around the store contemplating how to shoot folks?
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@nunyabidnis3815 ok, first, no appology is needed, but i thank you anyway. open and reasonable discussion is always welcome.
now to the nitty gritty, what is a prepper, i would agree with your first analogy, "I am a person who appreciates basic survival & preparation of home economics". that is the basis of a prepper, someone who prepares for basic survival and home economics. a prepper can be that old granny that lived through the depression and knows the value of storing up food for a rainy day and knows how to can and preserve and how to pinch every penny to make her dollar go farther. she lives her life preparing for the next economic crash that could be as severe as the one from 1928.
you stored up supplies and essentials for hurricane season, you "prepared" for an event, and in your geographic area, that event is hurricanes. a prepper prepares for certain scenarios so that those scenarios if they occur will not severely impact their standard of living, it may be harder to do things, but a prepper most likely will not be standing in line at a FEMA camp begging the gov for help, they might just to get extra stuff, but it wont be out of necessity.
most preppers i know are prepping for a catastrophic event such as a limited nuclear war, because that is one of the more catastrophic events that can occur, and with that kind of preperation, you find that you are already prepared for much lesser events such as a local power outage like the one that occured iin TX during the winter, or a tornado like the kinds that hit tornado alley.
for example, i'll use myself.
i prep for a nuclear war, i know that a nuclear war will probably be unsurvivable, but if i have a small chance of surviving a nuclear war, then i have a much greater chance of surviving a snowstorm and a power outage lasting a couple of days. most of the equipment i have is multi use equipment, meaning i can use it for more than just prepping. i have a tent, for if i go camping, i have a good sturdy knife, for if i go camping, i have a fishing pole for fishing and snare traps for trapping and so on and so on. i have a decent supply of food in my house, but i also rotate it, meaning i eat the older food and restock it when i eat it, it just means my pantry of non perishable foods is bigger than most peoples, but in an event like Katrina, while my neighbors would be scrawling HELP on their roof because they dont have food or water and need rescue, i could still live and eat and survive just in case rescue doesnt come right away, and we seen Katrina, rescue didnt come right away, and the people that were rescued werent much better off after being rescued. so yea, i have a large stockpile of food, enough to last me and my family, and even help out a few neighbors in a Katrina event. i have the skills and the equipment needed to minimize the disruption on my quality of life in a Katrina type event. yes, true, i wouldnt have power, but i would have a a dry place to sleep, a fire to keep me warm, and food and clean water to eat and drink. i wouldnt have a laptop of course and i couldnt catch up on the latest eppisodes of my favorite youtubers talking about the new games that are coming out or the ones i play, but i sure as hell wouldnt be stuck in a FEMA camp begging for a daily MRE to eat.
prepping is a fluidic lifestyle, you cant just simply make a plan of if a hurricane hits then i will drive 100.3 miles north and then walk 3029 feet west through the wilderness and make a right turn at the oak tree at blah blah blah location. you have to be adaptable to a fluid situation. what if the hurricane hits, do you stay and ride it out or do you evacuate? where do you evacuate to? what if thats not an option? what if you can only evacuate half way out of the disaster area? what do you do then?
now, i used nuclear war as an example, most preppers will say they are prepping for a severe cataclism, but not because they want to survive it, but because it will cover more of the non severe events.
for a nuclear war, i have my supplies and a bug out plan, i have maps to help guide me from major targets that i should avoid. will i survive it, probably not, but if its a Katrina style event, then i can use those maps to guide me out of the disaster area and get to somewhere not affected by it. i have gas masks with filters, we have seen incidents where some chemical plant explodes and people are told to close their windows and stay inside, i have gas masks so i should be better off, Union Carbide plant exploded in India and killed 50,000 people through suffocation? i have a knife and tent and some basic tools, so in a Katrina event if it takes me a couple of days to get to safety, i am better prepared for that trip, 3 weeks without food / 3 days without water / 3 hours without shelter / 3 minutes without air / 3 seconds without hope, thats basic life expectancy.
if you are actively or semi-actively or subconsciously preparing for an event that would severely disrupt your lifetyle, then you are a prepper, and when i say disrupt your lifestyle, i mean where it would put you in a serious situation that could affect your ability to survive.
you may be surprised, but if you go on youtube and look up some of the more prominent "prepper" channels, and watch a few of their vids, you may get a whole different take on things, you may notice that they almost never talk about guns, and ive heard 1 of them talk once about some type of combat tactics. most of them discuss skills, and food preservation methods, and if you watch enough of their vids, you will hear most of them mention more than once about building a community post event.
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@tonytomahawk5160 oh i see, you know some clan members from the Carolinas and you decided to call them preppers or something, good job.
first off, i never mentioned anything about right wing or left wing or ANYTHING leaning any which way on politics, thats on you.
second thing, you claim you left the conservative party 25 years ago because some guy you know was telling white fellons how to get guns still, and he had a youtube channel too? i dont think youtube would allow such criminal activity, and i dont think it existed 25 years ago. but you leaving the party 25 years ago because there was some dumb racist doing dumb things makes you dumb. i could understand you leaving the party because you didnt like their policies, or how they were shifting more and more towards the wrong side or how they were war mongering or whatever, but leaving a party because your neighbor is a dumb clansman, thats like people leaving the progressive party becaue their neighbor is a drug dealer and they associate that with democrats and progressives.
now, your comment about confederates, i believe those were democrats who call themselves now progressive democrats or social democrats, good job going to the party of slavery.
as for the feds ignoring anything, if you want to talk about the quiet parts, which is race in your opinion because you want to point out how the feds arent ignoring it and you already went on a racist tirade. so lets talk about the quiet part.
FBI crime stats point out that blacks kill twice as many whites as whites kill blacks, even though blacks only make up 13% of the population, blacks commit over 50% of the murders and robberies and assaults and rapes in the country even though they are only 13% of the population. yea, there is your problem, that whole white supremacy and white rage that is responsible for half as many murders as that black rage and black supremacy, but you dont want to mention that now do you?
now, point out that prepping channel that tells you how to break the law, i would love to see it and flag their vids and maybe even report them to the feds, i'll be fair with you and point out some actual prepping channels for you and DARE and CHALLENGE you to point out how they are biased in any way?
The Angry Prepper.
Canadian Prepper.
Alaska Prepper
Survival Lilly
Ice Age Farmer
City Prepping
these are just off the top of my head, the first 2 are black guys and the 3rd one is a spanish guy.
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