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@roblin6659 Is it a dump because you can't afford to live here or is it a dump because where you live, the streets are paved with gold, the cost of living is minimal, there are a plethora of museums, parks, sporting facilities and Pro sports teams, universities and colleges, world class hospitals , libraries, restaurants, bookstores, shopping malls, department stores, theatres, cinema houses, bars, public transport options, international airports, paved highways and byways, average crime stats, lack of homeless , employment opportunities.. some of what NYC has but better?
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@DoneWithLiesAboutFakeIsrael25 Guess what , Mr Idol worshiper. Everything in the new testament is FAKE NEWS and NOT the words of GD. It was written by individuals who didn't know or understand /accept Tanakh aka Hebrew Scriptures which FORBIDS worshiping human flesh, which YOU do. Therefore, it's MUTE AND MEANINGLESS quoting from it. At Mt Sinai, when GD gave the Law to Moses, as witnessed by 3,000,000 Israelites, there was NO MENTION of a jesus as messiah, as son or as being divine. GD is ONE ( not a trinity). No man dies for another man's sins. Deut 24:16; GD is NOT A MAN etc etc Num 23:19; Deut 13:2-4 SLAMS THE DOOR on the false faith of xtianity.
I can defend Judaism, the TRUTH, but you can't defend your faith..
Hey, happy easter.
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@SPY10070 SHOW US from the HEBREW scriptures, i.e. TANACH, NOT the false, pagan Christian 'bible', exactly WHERE G-d EVER mentioned the name "Jesus" to us - that he'd be the "messiah" and that he would 'die on a cross for our sins (a purely PAGAN ritual!) or that He EVER asked for HUMAN BLOOD to pay for sins!! SHOW US!!! The false, pagan Christian 'church' has been outright LYING to us for thousands of years, and is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind! PLEASE do the research for YOURSELF, and stop listening with "itching ears" to the "blind guides" who LIE to you from the pulpit every week! They DO NOT teach what G-d ACTUALLY said to us at Mt. Sinai, because they REFUSED to learn the original, ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!) Hebrew! They are therefore in profound DARKNESS about what G-d ACTUALLY said to us! You need to LEARN from the Orthodox Jewish rabbis, who are the ONLY people eminently qualified to interpret the Hebrew scriptures for us, since they have been studying them all the way back to Mt. Sinai.
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@Levi-hd5db SHOW US from the HEBREW scriptures, i.e. TANACH, NOT the false, pagan Christian 'bible', exactly WHERE God EVER mentioned the name "Jesus" to us - that he'd be the "messiah" and that he would 'die on a cross for our sins (a purely PAGAN ritual!) or that He EVER asked for HUMAN BLOOD to pay for sins!! SHOW US!!! The false, pagan Christian 'church' has been outright LYING to us for thousands of years, and is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind! PLEASE do the research for YOURSELF, and stop listening with "itching ears" to the "blind guides" who LIE to you from the pulpit every week! They DO NOT teach what God ACTUALLY said to us at Mt. Sinai, because they REFUSED to learn the original, ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!) Hebrew! They are therefore in profound DARKNESS about what God ACTUALLY said to us! You need to LEARN from the Orthodox Jewish rabbis, who are the ONLY people eminently qualified to interpret the Hebrew scriptures for us, since they have been studying them all the way back to Mt. Sinai.
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@Hotsport_RugbySimulations SHOW US from the HEBREW scriptures, i.e. TANACH, NOT the false, pagan Christian 'bible', exactly WHERE God EVER mentioned the name "Jesus" to us - that he'd be the "messiah" and that he would 'die on a cross for our sins (a purely PAGAN ritual!) or that He EVER asked for HUMAN BLOOD to pay for sins!! SHOW US!!! The false, pagan Christian 'church' has been outright LYING to us for thousands of years, and is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind! PLEASE do the research for YOURSELF, and stop listening with "itching ears" to the "blind guides" who LIE to you from the pulpit every week! They DO NOT teach what God ACTUALLY said to us at Mt. Sinai, because they REFUSED to learn the original, ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!) Hebrew! They are therefore in profound DARKNESS about what God ACTUALLY said to us! You need to LEARN from the Orthodox Jewish rabbis, who are the ONLY people eminently qualified to interpret the Hebrew scriptures for us, since they have been studying them all the way back to Mt. Sinai.
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@SPY10070 SHOW US from the HEBREW scriptures, i.e. TANACH, NOT the false, pagan Christian 'bible', exactly WHERE God EVER mentioned the name "Jesus" to us - that he'd be the "messiah" and that he would 'die on a cross for our sins (a purely PAGAN ritual!) or that He EVER asked for HUMAN BLOOD to pay for sins!! SHOW US!!! The false, pagan Christian 'church' has been outright LYING to us for thousands of years, and is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind! PLEASE do the research for YOURSELF, and stop listening with "itching ears" to the "blind guides" who LIE to you from the pulpit every week! They DO NOT teach what God ACTUALLY said to us at Mt. Sinai, because they REFUSED to learn the original, ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!) Hebrew! They are therefore in profound DARKNESS about what God ACTUALLY said to us! You need to LEARN from the Orthodox Jewish rabbis, who are the ONLY people eminently qualified to interpret the Hebrew scriptures for us, since they have been studying them all the way back to Mt. Sinai.
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@jesusheals3799 The Jewish tradition of "The Messiah" has its foundation in numerous biblical references, and understands "The Messiah" to be a human being - without any overtone of deity or divinity - who will bring about certain changes in the world and fulfill certain criteria before he can be acknowledged as "The Messiah".
First of all, he must be Jewish - "...you may appoint a king over you, whom the L-rd your G-d shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you." (Deuteronomy 17:15)
He must be a member of the tribe of Judah - "The staff shall not depart from Judah, nor the sceptre from between his feet..." (Genesis 49:10)
He must be a direct male descendant of King David and King Solomon, his son - "And when your days (David) are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall issue from your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for my name, and I will make firm the throne of his kingdom forever..." (2 Samuel 7:12 - 13)
He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel -"And he shall set up a banner for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." (Isaiah 11:12)
He must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem - "...and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and my tabernacle shall be with them.." (Ezekiel 37:26 - 27)
He will rule at a time of world-wide peace - "...they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore." (Micah 4:3)
He will rule at a time when the Jewish people will observe G-d's commandments - "My servant David shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall follow My ordinances and be careful to observe My statutes." (Ezekiel 37:24)
He will rule at a time when all people will come to acknowledge and serve one G-d - "And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, says the L-rd" (Isaiah 66:23)
All of these criteria are best stated in the book of Ezekiel Chapter 37 verses 24-28:
And David my servant shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. they shall also follow My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Yaakov my servant, in which your fathers have dwelt and they shall dwell there, they and their children, and their children's children forever; and my servant David shall be their prince forever. Moreover, I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant with them, which I will give them; and I will multiply them and I will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore. And my tabernacle shall be with them: and I will be their G-d and they will be my people. Then the nations shall know that I am the L-rd who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary will be in the midst of them forevermore.
If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah." A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that to date, no one has fulfilled every condition.
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@SPY10070 The Jewish tradition of "The Messiah" has its foundation in numerous biblical references, and understands "The Messiah" to be a human being - without any overtone of deity or divinity - who will bring about certain changes in the world and fulfill certain criteria before he can be acknowledged as "The Messiah".
First of all, he must be Jewish - "...you may appoint a king over you, whom the L-rd your G-d shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you." (Deuteronomy 17:15)
He must be a member of the tribe of Judah - "The staff shall not depart from Judah, nor the sceptre from between his feet..." (Genesis 49:10)
He must be a direct male descendant of King David and King Solomon, his son - "And when your days (David) are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall issue from your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for my name, and I will make firm the throne of his kingdom forever..." (2 Samuel 7:12 - 13)
He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel -"And he shall set up a banner for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." (Isaiah 11:12)
He must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem - "...and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and my tabernacle shall be with them.." (Ezekiel 37:26 - 27)
He will rule at a time of world-wide peace - "...they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore." (Micah 4:3)
He will rule at a time when the Jewish people will observe G-d's commandments - "My servant David shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall follow My ordinances and be careful to observe My statutes." (Ezekiel 37:24)
He will rule at a time when all people will come to acknowledge and serve one G-d - "And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, says the L-rd" (Isaiah 66:23)
All of these criteria are best stated in the book of Ezekiel Chapter 37 verses 24-28:
And David my servant shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. they shall also follow My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Yaakov my servant, in which your fathers have dwelt and they shall dwell there, they and their children, and their children's children forever; and my servant David shall be their prince forever. Moreover, I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant with them, which I will give them; and I will multiply them and I will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore. And my tabernacle shall be with them: and I will be their G-d and they will be my people. Then the nations shall know that I am the L-rd who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary will be in the midst of them forevermore.
If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah." A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that to date, no one has fulfilled every condition.
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@jesusheals3799 The Jewish tradition of "The Messiah" has its foundation in numerous biblical references, and understands "The Messiah" to be a human being - without any overtone of deity or divinity - who will bring about certain changes in the world and fulfill certain criteria before he can be acknowledged as "The Messiah".
First of all, he must be Jewish - "...you may appoint a king over you, whom the L-rd your G-d shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you." (Deuteronomy 17:15)
He must be a member of the tribe of Judah - "The staff shall not depart from Judah, nor the sceptre from between his feet..." (Genesis 49:10)
He must be a direct male descendant of King David and King Solomon, his son - "And when your days (David) are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall issue from your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for my name, and I will make firm the throne of his kingdom forever..." (2 Samuel 7:12 - 13)
He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel -"And he shall set up a banner for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." (Isaiah 11:12)
He must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem - "...and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and my tabernacle shall be with them.." (Ezekiel 37:26 - 27)
He will rule at a time of world-wide peace - "...they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore." (Micah 4:3)
He will rule at a time when the Jewish people will observe G-d's commandments - "My servant David shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall follow My ordinances and be careful to observe My statutes." (Ezekiel 37:24)
He will rule at a time when all people will come to acknowledge and serve one G-d - "And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, says the L-rd" (Isaiah 66:23)
All of these criteria are best stated in the book of Ezekiel Chapter 37 verses 24-28:
And David my servant shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. they shall also follow My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Yaakov my servant, in which your fathers have dwelt and they shall dwell there, they and their children, and their children's children forever; and my servant David shall be their prince forever. Moreover, I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant with them, which I will give them; and I will multiply them and I will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore. And my tabernacle shall be with them: and I will be their G-d and they will be my people. Then the nations shall know that I am the L-rd who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary will be in the midst of them forevermore.
If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah." A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that to date, no one has fulfilled every condition.
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@Hotsport_RugbySimulations SHOW US from the HEBREW scriptures, i.e. TANACH, NOT the false, pagan Christian 'bible', exactly WHERE God EVER mentioned the name "Jesus" to us - that he'd be the "messiah" and that he would 'die on a cross for our sins (a purely PAGAN ritual!) or that He EVER asked for HUMAN BLOOD to pay for sins!! SHOW US!!! The false, pagan Christian 'church' has been outright LYING to us for thousands of years, and is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind! PLEASE do the research for YOURSELF, and stop listening with "itching ears" to the "blind guides" who LIE to you from the pulpit every week! They DO NOT teach what God ACTUALLY said to us at Mt. Sinai, because they REFUSED to learn the original, ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!) Hebrew! They are therefore in profound DARKNESS about what God ACTUALLY said to us! You need to LEARN from the Orthodox Jewish rabbis, who are the ONLY people eminently qualified to interpret the Hebrew scriptures for us, since they have been studying them all the way back to Mt. Sinai.
Amigo, you've been blinded by your faith and are wasting your spiritual life on nonsense. I feel sorry for you.. Now, it's time to say goodbye. I will see you in Israel at the Resurrection and will help you when needed. Shalom L'hitraot.
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@chief1redwolf909 Christian missionaries, like Jews for Jesus, profess that Jesus is the Jewish messiah.
Why has Judaism rejected this claim for 2,000 years?
The concept of the Messiah has its foundation in our Jewish Bible, the Tanach, which teaches that all of the following criteria must be fulfilled before any person can be acknowledged as the Messiah:
Reason #1 – The Messiah must be from the Tribe of Judah and a Descendant of King David AND King Solomon – Jesus did not qualify.
The Messiah must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a direct descendant of King David & King Solomon (2 Samuel 7:12-14; 1 Chronicles 22:9-10). Genealogy in the Bible is only passed down from father to son (Numbers 1:1-18).
There is no evidence that Jesus really had this pedigree, and the Christian Bible actually claims that he did not have a “birth-father” from the tribe of Judah descending from King David and King Solomon (Matt. 1:18-20).
Reason #2 – Ingathering of the Jewish Exiles – Jesus did not do this.
When the Messiah is reigning as King of Israel, the Jews will be ingathered from their exile and will return to Israel, their homeland (Deut. 30:3; Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 30:3, 32:37; Ezekiel 11:17, 36:24).
This has clearly not yet happened and we still await its fulfillment.
Reason #3– Rebuilding of the Holy Temple – Jesus failed to achieve this.
The Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt (Isaiah 2:2-3, 56:6-7, 60:7, 66:20; Ezekiel 37:26–27; Malachi 3:4; Zech. 14:20-21).
The Temple was still standing in Jesus’ day. It was destroyed 38 years after Jesus’ crucifixion and it has not yet been rebuilt.
Reason #4– Worldwide Reign of Peace – Jesus did not accomplish this.
There will be universal disarmament and worldwide peace with a complete end to war (Micah 4:1-4; Hoseah 2:20; Isaiah 2:1-4, 60:18).
Wars have increased dramatically in the world since the start of Christianity.
Reason #5 – Observance of the Torah Embraced by All Jews – Jesus didn’t bring this about.
The Messiah will reign as King at a time when all the Jewish people will observe G-d’s commandments (Ezekiel 37:24; Deut. 30:8,10; Jeremiah 31:32; Ezekiel 11:19-20, 36:26-27).
Jesus never ruled as King, nor have all Jews embraced the commandments of G-d’s Torah.
Reason #6 – Universal Knowledge of G-d – Jesus clearly failed here also.
The Messiah will rule at a time when all the people of the world will come to acknowledge and serve the one true G-d (Zechariah 3:9, 8:23,14:9,16; Isaiah 45:23, 66:23; Jeremiah 31:33; Ezekiel 38:23; Psalm 86:9; Zeph. 3:9).
This, as well, has not yet taken place and we await its fulfillment.
No matter how many unusual & miraculous things Jesus seems to accomplish in the New Testament, he doesn’t fulfill even one of the 6 criteria by which the Nation of Israel can recognize him as the true Jewish Messiah.
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@joinjen3854 WHAT???? You are seriously MISGUIDED AND WRONG beyond words. NOWHERE IN TANAKH is his name EXPLICITLY CITED as you want him to be. Isaiah 53 has NOTHING TO DO WITH jesus. Go ahead and show me where, IN HEBREW, his name is MENTIONED as GD. NOWHERE..You are ASSUMING he is GD and messiah but HE'S NOT!!! Are you for real??? Only in the new testament, which narratives are NOT from GD , is he so stated. Let's start with Isaiah 43:10-11. GD is THE ONLY SAVIOR ( show me where jesus' name is EXPLICITLY CITED here)!!! Deut 24:16. No man dies for another man's sins; Deut 4:39. In heaven above and upon earth below, there is ONE GD and NONE ELSE ( no jesus here, either). Deut 13:2-4. Read it and understand each and every word.
He is NOT REFERRED TO from Genesis to Malachi..YOU HAVEN'T PROVED YOUR POINT. Where is his name mentioned, EXPLICITLY??????????
The GREAT RABBINIC SCHOLARS of yesterday and today, i.e. Ramabam ( Maimonides), Ramban ( Nachmonides), Rashi, Rabbi Isaac Luria ( Arizal), Rabbi Akiva, Vilna Gaon, Bal Shem Tov, Ibn Ezra , and contemporary scholars such as Rabbi Tovia Singer, Rabbi Manis Friedman, Rabbi Michael Skobac, NEVER EVER CONCEDE OR CONCEDED that your man idol, jesus is divine. In fact, he was VOTED DIVINE at the Council of Nicea. Prophecy ended at Malachi..Matty, Mark, Luke, Johnny boy, Paul etc were NOT PROPHETS and their narratives are NOT FROM GD, therefore rendering the new testament mute and meaningless.
Zech 8:23. The gentile(s) will grab a garment of a Jew(s) and ask to go with us because WE hold the TRUTH. Get educated and out of pagan idolatry. You may want to watch Rabbi Tovia Singer here on YT videos deconstruct the FALSE FAITH of xtianity to a T.
You are really, really misguided .
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@Bibleapostle The term "new covenant" would be meaningless unless what Jeremiah meant by it was the renewing of the old covenant, which will thereby regain its full original vigor. The covenant of old is of eternal duration, never to be rescinded or to be superseded by a new covenant (Leviticus 26:44-45). The covenant between God and Israel is frequently referred to as everlasting (e.g., Genesis 17:7, 13, 19; Psalms 105:8, 10; 1 Chronicles 16:13-18).
The Christian position concerning Jeremiah's covenant is the complete opposite of what the Jewish Scriptures teach. Hebrews 8:13 states: "In that he says, a new covenant, he has made the first obsolete. Now that which is being made obsolete and growing old is near to vanishing away." In stark contrast to this statement, the Scriptures state: "The works of His hands are truth and justice; and His precepts are sure. They are established forever and ever, they are done in truth and uprightness" (Psalms 111:7-8); "The grass withers, the flower fades; but the word of our God shall stand forever" (Isaiah 40:8).
Jeremiah's "new covenant" is not a replacement of the existing covenant, but merely a figure of speech expressing the reinvigoration and revitalization of the existing covenant. The people of Israel possess an old covenant yet a new covenant, truly an everlasting covenant.
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@Bibleapostle Deuteronomy 13:2-6: ‘If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for HASHEM, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love HASHEM, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall follow HASHEM, your God, fear Him, keep His commandments, heed His voice, worship Him, and cleave to Him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream shall be put to death *(Deuteronomy 13 and 18)*; because he spoke falsehood about HASHEM, your God Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and Who redeemed you from the house of bondage, to lead you astray from the way in which HASHEM, your God, commanded you to go; so shall you clear away the evil from your midst.’
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@goinghome1191 SHOW US from the HEBREW scriptures, i.e. TANACH, NOT the false, pagan Christian 'bible', exactly WHERE God EVER mentioned the name "Jesus" to us - that he'd be the "messiah" and that he would 'die on a cross for our sins (a purely PAGAN ritual!) or that He EVER asked for HUMAN BLOOD to pay for sins!! SHOW US!!! The false, pagan Christian 'church' has been outright LYING to us for thousands of years, and is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind! PLEASE do the research for YOURSELF, and stop listening with "itching ears" to the "blind guides" who LIE to you from the pulpit every week! They DO NOT teach what God ACTUALLY said to us at Mt. Sinai, because they REFUSED to learn the original, ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!) Hebrew! They are therefore in profound DARKNESS about what God ACTUALLY said to us! You need to LEARN from the Orthodox Jewish rabbis, who are the ONLY people eminently qualified to interpret the Hebrew scriptures for us, since they have been studying them all the way back to Mt. Sinai.
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@goinghome1191 Christian missionaries, like Jews for Jesus, profess that Jesus is the Jewish messiah.
Why has Judaism rejected this claim for 2,000 years?
The concept of the Messiah has its foundation in our Jewish Bible, the Tanach, which teaches that all of the following criteria must be fulfilled before any person can be acknowledged as the Messiah:
Reason #1 – The Messiah must be from the Tribe of Judah and a Descendant of King David AND King Solomon – Jesus did not qualify.
The Messiah must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a direct descendant of King David & King Solomon (2 Samuel 7:12-14; 1 Chronicles 22:9-10). Genealogy in the Bible is only passed down from father to son (Numbers 1:1-18).
There is no evidence that Jesus really had this pedigree, and the Christian Bible actually claims that he did not have a “birth-father” from the tribe of Judah descending from King David and King Solomon (Matt. 1:18-20).
Reason #2 – Ingathering of the Jewish Exiles – Jesus did not do this.
When the Messiah is reigning as King of Israel, the Jews will be ingathered from their exile and will return to Israel, their homeland (Deut. 30:3; Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 30:3, 32:37; Ezekiel 11:17, 36:24).
This has clearly not yet happened and we still await its fulfillment.
Reason #3– Rebuilding of the Holy Temple – Jesus failed to achieve this.
The Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt (Isaiah 2:2-3, 56:6-7, 60:7, 66:20; Ezekiel 37:26–27; Malachi 3:4; Zech. 14:20-21).
The Temple was still standing in Jesus’ day. It was destroyed 38 years after Jesus’ crucifixion and it has not yet been rebuilt.
Reason #4– Worldwide Reign of Peace – Jesus did not accomplish this.
There will be universal disarmament and worldwide peace with a complete end to war (Micah 4:1-4; Hoseah 2:20; Isaiah 2:1-4, 60:18).
Wars have increased dramatically in the world since the start of Christianity.
Reason #5 – Observance of the Torah Embraced by All Jews – Jesus didn’t bring this about.
The Messiah will reign as King at a time when all the Jewish people will observe G-d’s commandments (Ezekiel 37:24; Deut. 30:8,10; Jeremiah 31:32; Ezekiel 11:19-20, 36:26-27).
Jesus never ruled as King, nor have all Jews embraced the commandments of G-d’s Torah.
Reason #6 – Universal Knowledge of G-d – Jesus clearly failed here also.
The Messiah will rule at a time when all the people of the world will come to acknowledge and serve the one true G-d (Zechariah 3:9, 8:23,14:9,16; Isaiah 45:23, 66:23; Jeremiah 31:33; Ezekiel 38:23; Psalm 86:9; Zeph. 3:9).
This, as well, has not yet taken place and we await its fulfillment.
No matter how many unusual & miraculous things Jesus seems to accomplish in the New Testament, he doesn’t fulfill even one of the 6 criteria by which the Nation of Israel can recognize him as the true Jewish Messiah.
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@goinghome1191 You prove NOTHING!!! Believe in what Rabbi Tovia Singer, Rabbi Michael Skobac, Rashi,The Rambam (Maimonides), The Ramban ( Nachmonides), Rabbi Isaac Luria, Ibn Ezra, The Bal Shem Tov, say...and you won't believe them??? More brilliant Hebrew scholars of past and present who are far more intelligent than and knowledgeable in Talmud/Torah than you or i ever will be REJECT THE FALSE MESSIAH..and you won't believe them?? DO YOUR RESEARCH, LEARN HEBREW AND COMPARE THE OT WITH NT AND DISCOVER GLARING DIFFERENCES IN TRANSLATIONS AND OMISSIONS ...don't be a gullible person.. By the way, myself and a few friends actually saw a man jump from 24 floors of his apartment building and just walk away unscathed...really, we saw it with our own multiple eyes... SPREAD THE WORD!
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@DoneWithLiesAboutFakeIsrael25 Guess what , Mr Idol worshiper. Everything in the new testament is FAKE NEWS and NOT the words of GD. It was written by individuals who didn't know or understand /accept Tanakh aka Hebrew Scriptures which FORBIDS worshiping human flesh, which YOU do. Therefore, it's MUTE AND MEANINGLESS quoting from it. At Mt Sinai, when GD gave the Law to Moses, as witnessed by 3,000,000 Israelites, there was NO MENTION of a jesus as messiah, as son or as being divine. GD is ONE ( not a trinity). No man dies for another man's sins. Deut 24:16; GD is NOT A MAN etc etc Num 23:19; Deut 13:2-4 SLAMS THE DOOR on the false faith of xtianity.
Hey, happy easter.
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@carolbassant2490 Was Jesus the Messiah?
Was (is) Jesus the Messiah?
a. The Messiah According To Judaism
One of the basic premises upon which Christianity rests is that Jesus was the Messiah predicted in the Jewish Bible. Judaism has always rejected this belief. Since the goal of “Hebrew Christian” missionaries is to convince Jews that Jesus did in fact fulfill the requirements of the promised Messiah, it is necessary to examine the Jewish understanding of the Messiah to understand why such claims are simply not true.
b. The Hebrew Roots Of The Word “Messiah”
The Hebrew word for “Messiah” is “Moshiach – .” The literal and proper translation of this word is “anointed,” which refers to a ritual of anointing and consecrating someone or something with oil (I Samuel 10:1-2). It is used throughout the Jewish Bible in reference to a wide variety of individuals and/or objects; for example, a Jewish king (I Kings 1:39), Jewish priests (Leviticus 4:3), prophets (Isaiah 61:1), the Jewish Temple and its utensils (Exodus 40:9-11), unleavened bread (Numbers 6:15), and a non-Jewish king (Cyrus king of Persia, Isaiah 45:1). *
* Some form of the Hebrew word moshiach is used over 150 times in the Jewish bible. Christians consistently translate this word as anointed, except in the ninth chapter of Daniel. In this chapter missionaries deviate from this and other correct translations in an attempt to prove that the messiah came before the destruction of the Second Temple. Rather than speaking about “the messiah,” when read in context and with a correct translation this chapter clearly speaks about two different “anointed” subjects hundreds of years apart. a) The first is the anointed King Cyrus (Isaiah 45:1) who granted permission to the Jews to return and build the Second Temple 52 years “7 weeks of years” after the destruction of the First Temple. b) The second is the anointed priesthood (Leviticus 4:3) that was terminated 434 years “62 weeks of years” later.
c. The Criteria To Be Fulfilled By The Jewish Messiah
In accurate translations of Jewish Scriptures, the word “Moshiach” is never translated as “Messiah,” but as “anointed.” Nevertheless, Judaism has always maintained a fundamental belief in a Messianic figure. Since the concept of a Messiah is one that was given by God to the Jews, Jewish tradition is best qualified to describe and recognize the expected Messiah. This tradition has its foundation in numerous biblical references, many of which are cited below. Judaism understands the Messiah to be a human being (with no connotation of deity or divinity) who will bring about certain changes in the world and who must fulfill certain specific criteria before being acknowledged as the Messiah.
These specific criteria are as follows:
1) He must be Jewish. (Deuteronomy. 17:15, Numbers 24:17)
2) He must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a
direct male descendent of King David (I Chronicles 17:11, Psalms 89:29-38, Jeremiah 33:17, II Samuel 7:12-16) and King Solomon.
(I Chronicles 22:10, II Chronicles 7:18)
3) He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel. (Isaiah 27:12-13, Isaiah 11:12)
4) He must rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. (Micah 4:1)
5) He must bring world peace. (Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:6, Micah 4:3)
6) He must influence the entire world to acknowledge and serve one G-d. (Isaiah 11:9, Isaiah 40:5, Zephaniah 3:9)
All of these criteria for the Messiah are best stated in chapter 37:24-28 of the book of Ezekiel:
“and My servant David will be a king over them, and they will all have one shepherd, and they will walk in My ordinances, and keep My statutes, and observe them, and they shall live on the land that I gave to Jacob My servant…and I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their G-d and they will be My people. And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever.” (Ezekiel 37:24-28)
Emphasis: If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah!
d. Why Jesus Could Not Have Been The Jewish Messiah
A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that, although Jesus was Jewish, he did not fulfill any of the other criteria. An examination of the contradictory accounts of Jesus’ genealogy demonstrates a number of difficulties with the fulfillment of the second criterion. Specifically, the New Testament claims that Jesus did not have a physical father. The Jewish Scriptures, however, clearly states that a person’s genealogy and tribal membership is transmitted exclusively through one’s physical father (Numbers 1:18, Jeremiah 33:17). Therefore, Jesus cannot possibly be a descendent of the tribe of Judah nor of King David and King Solomon.
There are even further problems with any attempts to use the Jewish Scriptures to prove Jesus’ genealogy through Joseph, the husband of Mary (Jesus’ mother).
For the New Testament claims that Joseph was a descendent of King Jeconiah, who in the Hebrew Bible was cursed to never have a descendent “sitting on the throne of David and ruling any more in Judah” (Jeremiah 22:30). Joseph’s genealogy, even if it were transmittable to Jesus, would only serve to further disqualify Jesus as the Messiah.
Finally, there is the problem of the contradictory accounts of Jesus’ genealogy in Matthew, Chapter 1 and Luke, Chapter 3. The common Christian explanation of this contradiction claims that Luke’s genealogy is that of Jesus’ mother, Mary. However, this is unfounded, even according to the Greek original. In addition, it has already been established that genealogy is transferred solely through the father, making this attempted explanation completely irrelevant. Even if one could trace one’s genealogy through one’s mother, there would be the additional problem in that Luke 3:31 lists Mary as a descendent of David through Nathan, Solomon’s brother, and not through Solomon himself as is prophesied in I Chronicles 22:10 of the Jewish Bible.
The third, fourth, fifth and sixth criteria have obviously not been fulfilled, either during Jesus’ time or since. Any Christian claims that these final criteria will be fulfilled in a “Second Coming” are irrelevant because the concept of the Messiah coming twice has no scriptural basis.
To summarize, we cannot know that someone is the Messiah until he fulfills all of the above criteria.
The Christian understanding of the Messiah and Jesus differs greatly from the Jewish biblical view. These differences developed as a result of the Church’s influence during the time of the Emperor Constantine* and the Council of Nicaea that issued the Nicene Creed in 325 CE.
Emphasis: The Messiah was never meant to be an object of worship. His primary mission and accomplishment is to bring world peace and to fill the world with the knowledge and awareness of one G-d.
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@ALivingFlame Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:
Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
Jewish belief is based on national revelation.
But first, some background: What exactly is the Messiah?
The word "Messiah" is an English rendering of the Hebrew word Mashiach, which means "anointed." It usually refers to a person initiated into God's service by being anointed with oil. (Exodus 29:7, 1-Kings 1:39, 2-Kings 9:3)
(1) Jesus Did Not Fulfill the Messianic Prophecies
What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? One of the central themes of biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4, 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)
Specifically, the Bible says he will:
Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world – on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).
If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah.
Because no one has ever fulfilled the Bible's description of this future King, Jews still await the coming of the Messiah. All past Messianic claimants, including Jesus of Nazareth, Bar Cochba and Shabbtai Tzvi have been rejected.
Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming. Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright; in the Bible no concept of a second coming exists.
(2) Jesus Did Not Embody the Personal Qualifications of Messiah
A. Messiah as Prophet
The Messiah will become the greatest prophet in history, second only to Moses. (Targum – Isaiah 11:2; Maimonides – Teshuva 9:2)
Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the land is inhabited by a majority of world Jewry, a situation which has not existed since 300 BCE. During the time of Ezra, when the majority of Jews remained in Babylon, prophecy ended upon the death of the last prophets – Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.
Jesus appeared on the scene approximately 350 years after prophecy had ended, and thus could not be a prophet.
B. Descendant of David
Many prophetic passages speak of a descendant of King David who will rule Israel during the age of perfection. (Isaiah 11:1-9; Jeremiah 23:5-6, 30:7-10, 33:14-16; Ezekiel 34:11-31, 37:21-28; Hosea 3:4-5)
The Messiah must be descended on his father's side from King David (see Genesis 49:10, Isaiah 11:1, Jeremiah 23:5, 33:17; Ezekiel 34:23-24). According to the Christian claim that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth, he had no father – and thus could not have possibly fulfilled the messianic requirement of being descended on his father's side from King David. (1)
According to Jewish sources, the Messiah will be born of human parents and possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a demi-god, (2) nor will he possess supernatural qualities.
C. Torah Observance
The Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The Torah states that all mitzvot remain binding forever, and anyone coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4)
Throughout the Christian "New Testament," Jesus contradicts the Torah and states that its commandments are no longer applicable. For example, John 9:14 records that Jesus made a paste in violation of Shabbat, which caused the Pharisees to say (verse 16), "He does not observe Shabbat!"
(3) Mistranslated Verses "Referring" to Jesus
Biblical verses can only be understood by studying the original Hebrew text – which reveals many discrepancies in the Christian translation.
A. Virgin Birth
The Christian idea of a virgin birth is derived from the verse in Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth. The word "alma" has always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries later and translated it as "virgin." This accords Jesus' birth with the first century pagan idea of mortals being impregnated by gods.
B. Suffering Servant
Christianity claims that Isaiah chapter 53 refers to Jesus, as the "suffering servant."
In actuality, Isaiah 53 directly follows the theme of chapter 52, describing the exile and redemption of the Jewish people. The prophecies are written in the singular form because the Jews ("Israel") are regarded as one unit. Throughout Jewish scripture, Israel is repeatedly called, in the singular, the "Servant of God" (see Isaiah 43:8). In fact, Isaiah states no less than 11 times in the chapters prior to 53 that the Servant of God is Israel.
When read correctly, Isaiah 53 clearly [and ironically] refers to the Jewish people being "bruised, crushed and as sheep brought to slaughter" at the hands of the nations of the world. These descriptions are used throughout Jewish scripture to graphically describe the suffering of the Jewish people (see Psalm 44).
Isaiah 53 concludes that when the Jewish people are redeemed, the nations will recognize and accept responsibility for the inordinate suffering and death of the Jews.
(4) Jewish Belief is Based Solely on National Revelation
Throughout history, thousands of religions have been started by individuals, attempting to convince people that he or she is God's true prophet. But personal revelation is an extremely weak basis for a religion because one can never know if it is indeed true. Since others did not hear God speak to this person, they have to take his word for it. Even if the individual claiming personal revelation performs miracles, they do not prove he is a genuine prophet. All the miracles show – assuming they are genuine – is that he has certain powers. It has nothing to do with his claim of prophecy.
Judaism, unique among all of the world's major religions, does not rely on "claims of miracles" as the basis for its religion. In fact, the Bible says that God sometimes grants the power of "miracles" to charlatans, in order to test Jewish loyalty to the Torah (Deut. 13:4).
Of the thousands of religions in human history, only Judaism bases its belief on national revelation – i.e. God speaking to the entire nation. If God is going to start a religion, it makes sense He'll tell everyone, not just one person.
Maimonides states (Foundations of Torah, ch. 8):
The Jews did not believe in Moses, our teacher, because of the miracles he performed. Whenever anyone's belief is based on seeing miracles, he has lingering doubts, because it is possible the miracles were performed through magic or sorcery. All of the miracles performed by Moses in the desert were because they were necessary, and not as proof of his prophecy.
What then was the basis of [Jewish] belief? The Revelation at Mount Sinai, which we saw with our own eyes and heard with our own ears, not dependent on the testimony of others... as it says, "Face to face, God spoke with you..." The Torah also states: "God did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us – who are all here alive today." (Deut. 5:3)
Judaism is not miracles. It is the personal eyewitness experience of every man, woman and child, standing at Mount Sinai 3,300 years ago.
Further reading: "Did God Speak at Mount Sinai?"
Waiting for the Messiah
The world is in desperate need of Messianic redemption. To the extent that we are aware of the problems of society, is the extent we will yearn for redemption. As the Talmud says, one of the first questions asked of a Jew on Judgment Day is: "Did you yearn for the arrival of the Messiah?"
How can we hasten the coming of the Messiah? The best way is to love all humanity generously, to keep the mitzvot of the Torah (as best we can), and to encourage others to do so as well.
Despite the gloom, the world does seem headed toward redemption. One apparent sign is that the Jewish people have returned to the Land of Israel and made it bloom again. Additionally, a major movement is afoot of young Jews returning to Torah tradition.
The Messiah can come any day, and it all depends on our actions. God is ready when we are. For as King David says: "Redemption will come today – if you hearken to His voice."
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@ALivingFlame he never , ever claimed to be a messiah, in the first place...plus, Paul, who never even met the guy, concocted stories making him one.....oy vey...how gullible can anyone be....really?? You know what, pal? Myself and my 5 friends, Paul, Matthew, Luke, John and Mark all witnessed a guy jump 60 stories from his apartment building and just walk away, unscathed. Really, we saw it with our own multiple eyes...SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS!!
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@ALivingFlame Please don't pray for me...i need not your prayers. My true faith has been 1,000%+ for me all my life and i know what my heart speaks to me is true. You quote John et al , everything from a Christological viewpoint which is not valid in Judaism. If the dead messiah were all that Christianity claims it to be, then the whole world would know and accept it as truth. But, it never was and isn't now. When the real Messiah comes, the world will embrace him...to date, that hasn't happened. The carpenter fails all criteria ever to be a Messiah. There is no point in discussing this any further. You have your beliefs, and i have mine. You'll never, never, ever, ever convince me otherwise. Let's part ways in the comfort of our faiths. Have a great one, amigo.
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@jfender8023 For the sake of Zion, I will not be silent, and for the sake of Jerusalem I will not rest, until her righteousness comes out like brilliance, and her salvation burns like a torch. אלְמַ֚עַן צִיּוֹן֙ לֹ֣א אֶֽחֱשֶׁ֔ה וּלְמַ֥עַן יְרֽוּשָׁלִַ֖ם לֹ֣א אֶשְׁק֑וֹט עַד־יֵצֵ֚א כַנֹּ֙גַהּ֙ צִדְקָ֔הּ וִישֽׁוּעָתָ֖הּ כְּלַפִּ֥יד יִבְעָֽר:
2And nations shall see your righteousness, and all kings your glory, and you shall be called a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall pronounce. בוְרָא֚וּ גוֹיִם֙ צִדְקֵ֔ךְ וְכָל־מְלָכִ֖ים כְּבוֹדֵ֑ךְ וְקֹ֚רָא לָךְ֙ שֵׁ֣ם חָדָ֔שׁ אֲשֶׁ֛ר פִּ֥י יְהֹוָ֖ה יִקֳּבֶֽנּוּ:
3And you shall be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord and a kingly diadem in the hand of your God. גוְהָיִ֛ית עֲטֶ֥רֶת תִּפְאֶ֖רֶת בְּיַד־יְהֹוָ֑ה וּצְנִ֥יף (כתיב וּצְנִ֥וף) מְלוּכָ֖ה בְּכַף־אֱלֹהָֽיִךְ:
4No longer shall "forsaken" be said of you, and "desolate" shall no longer be said of your land, for you shall be called "My desire is in her," and your land, "inhabited," for the Lord desires you, and your land shall be inhabited.
THERE'S NO MENTION OF "YESHUA" HERE MR FENDER -BENDER!! your version is from the KJV which is CHRISTOLOGICAL.. THE ABOVE IS FROM THE HEBREW OLD TESTAMENT ( ORIGINAL) ...NEVER ANY REFERENCE TO A YESHUA OR jesus wanna be... SORRY, YOU LOSE POINTS HERE...!!!
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@jfender8023 SHOW US from the HEBREW scriptures, i.e. TANACH, NOT the false, pagan Christian 'bible', exactly WHERE God EVER mentioned the name "Jesus" to us - that he'd be the "messiah" and that he would 'die on a cross for our sins (a purely PAGAN ritual!) or that He EVER asked for HUMAN BLOOD to pay for sins!! SHOW US!!! The false, pagan Christian 'church' has been outright LYING to us for thousands of years, and is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind! PLEASE do the research for YOURSELF, and stop listening with "itching ears" to the "blind guides" who LIE to you from the pulpit every week! They DO NOT teach what God ACTUALLY said to us at Mt. Sinai, because they REFUSED to learn the original, ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!) Hebrew! They are therefore in profound DARKNESS about what God ACTUALLY said to us! You need to LEARN from the Orthodox Jewish rabbis, who are the ONLY people eminently qualified to interpret the Hebrew scriptures for us, since they have been studying them all the way back to Mt. Sinai.
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@jfender8023 For the sake of Zion, I will not be silent, and for the sake of Jerusalem I will not rest, until her righteousness comes out like brilliance, and her salvation burns like a torch. אלְמַ֚עַן צִיּוֹן֙ לֹ֣א אֶֽחֱשֶׁ֔ה וּלְמַ֥עַן יְרֽוּשָׁלִַ֖ם לֹ֣א אֶשְׁק֑וֹט עַד־יֵצֵ֚א כַנֹּ֙גַהּ֙ צִדְקָ֔הּ וִישֽׁוּעָתָ֖הּ כְּלַפִּ֥יד יִבְעָֽר:
2And nations shall see your righteousness, and all kings your glory, and you shall be called a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall pronounce. בוְרָא֚וּ גוֹיִם֙ צִדְקֵ֔ךְ וְכָל־מְלָכִ֖ים כְּבוֹדֵ֑ךְ וְקֹ֚רָא לָךְ֙ שֵׁ֣ם חָדָ֔שׁ אֲשֶׁ֛ר פִּ֥י יְהֹוָ֖ה יִקֳּבֶֽנּוּ:
3And you shall be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord and a kingly diadem in the hand of your God. גוְהָיִ֛ית עֲטֶ֥רֶת תִּפְאֶ֖רֶת בְּיַד־יְהֹוָ֑ה וּצְנִ֥יף (כתיב וּצְנִ֥וף) מְלוּכָ֖ה בְּכַף־אֱלֹהָֽיִךְ:
4No longer shall "forsaken" be said of you, and "desolate" shall no longer be said of your land, for you shall be called "My desire is in her," and your land, "inhabited," for the Lord desires you, and your land shall be inhabited. דלֹא־יֵֽאָמֵר֩ לָ֨ךְ ע֜וֹד עֲזוּבָ֗ה וּלְאַרְצֵךְ֙ לֹא־יֵֽאָמֵ֥ר עוֹד֙ שְׁמָמָ֔ה כִּ֣י לָ֗ךְ יִקָּרֵא֙ חֶפְצִי־בָ֔הּ וּלְאַרְצֵ֖ךְ בְּעוּלָ֑ה כִּֽי־חָפֵ֚ץ יְהֹוָה֙ בָּ֔ךְ וְאַרְצֵ֖ךְ תִּבָּעֵֽל:
5As a young man lives with a virgin, so shall your children live in you, and the rejoicing of a bridegroom over a bride shall your God rejoice over you. הכִּֽי־יִבְעַ֚ל בָּחוּר֙ בְּתוּלָ֔ה יִבְעָל֖וּךְ בָּנָ֑יִךְ וּמְשׂ֚וֹשׂ חָתָן֙ עַל־כַּלָּ֔ה יָשִׂ֥ישׂ עָלַ֖יִךְ אֱלֹהָֽיִךְ:
6On your walls, O Jerusalem, I have appointed watchmen; all day and all night, they shall never be silent; those who remind the Lord, be not silent. ועַל־חֽוֹמֹתַ֣יִךְ יְרֽוּשָׁלִַ֗ם הִפְקַ֙דְתִּי֙ שֹֽׁמְרִ֔ים כָּל־הַיּ֧וֹם וְכָל־הַלַּ֛יְלָה תָּמִ֖יד לֹ֣א יֶֽחֱשׁ֑וּ הַמַּזְכִּירִים֙ אֶת־יְהֹוָ֔ה אַל־דֳּמִ֖י לָכֶֽם:
7And give Him no rest, until He establishes and until He makes Jerusalem a praise in the land. זוְאַל־תִּתְּנ֥וּ דֳמִ֖י ל֑וֹ עַד־יְכוֹנֵ֞ן וְעַד־יָשִׂ֧ים אֶת־יְרֽוּשָׁלִַ֛ם תְּהִלָּ֖ה בָּאָֽרֶץ:
8The Lord swore by His right hand and by the arm of His strength; I will no longer give your grain to your enemies, and foreigners shall no longer drink your wine for which you have toiled. חנִשְׁבַּ֧ע יְהֹוָ֛ה בִּֽימִינ֖וֹ וּבִזְר֣וֹעַ עֻזּ֑וֹ אִם־אֶתֵּן֩ אֶת־דְּגָנֵ֨ךְ ע֚וֹד מַֽאֲכָל֙ לְאֹ֣יְבַ֔יִךְ וְאִם־יִשְׁתּ֚וּ בְנֵֽי־נֵכָר֙ תִּֽירוֹשֵׁ֔ךְ אֲשֶׁ֥ר יָגַ֖עַתְּ בּֽוֹ:
9But its gatherers shall eat it and they shall praise the Lord, and its gatherers shall drink it in My holy courts. טכִּ֚י מְאַסְפָיו֙ יֹֽאכְלֻ֔הוּ וְהִֽלְל֖וּ אֶת־יְהֹוָ֑ה וּמְקַבְּצָ֥יו יִשְׁתֻּ֖הוּ בְּחַצְר֥וֹת קָדְשִֽׁי:
10Pass, pass through the portals, clear the way of the people, pave, pave the highway, clear it of stones, lift up a banner over the peoples. יעִבְר֚וּ עִבְרוּ֙ בַּשְּׁעָרִ֔ים פַּנּ֖וּ דֶּ֣רֶךְ הָעָ֑ם סֹ֣לּוּ סֹ֚לּוּ הַֽמְסִלָּה֙ סַקְּל֣וּ מֵאֶ֔בֶן הָרִ֥ימוּ נֵ֖ס עַל־הָעַמִּֽים:
11Behold, the Lord announced to the end of the earth, "Say to the daughter of Zion, 'Behold your salvation has come.' " Behold His reward is with Him, and His wage is before Him. יאהִנֵּ֣ה יְהֹוָ֗ה הִשְׁמִ֙יעַ֙ אֶל־קְצֵ֣ה הָאָ֔רֶץ אִמְרוּ֙ לְבַת־צִיּ֔וֹן הִנֵּ֥ה יִשְׁעֵ֖ךְ בָּ֑א הִנֵּ֚ה שְׂכָרוֹ֙ אִתּ֔וֹ וּפְעֻלָּת֖וֹ לְפָנָֽיו:
12And they shall call them the holy people, those redeemed by the Lord, and you shall be called, "sought, a city not forsaken." יבוְקָרְא֥וּ לָהֶ֛ם עַם־הַקֹּ֖דֶשׁ גְּאוּלֵ֣י יְהֹוָ֑ה וְלָךְ֙ יִקָּרֵ֣א דְרוּשָׁ֔ה עִ֖יר לֹ֥א נֶעֱזָֽבָה:
NO MENTION OR ALLUSION TO YOUR FAKE MESSIAH HERE FENDER BENDER...YOU'VE BEEN DUPED !!! SHOW ME WHERE????
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@jfender8023 DAMN YOU FOOL!!! HOW DARE YOU BLASPHEME G-D AND HIS ONENESS.. All the great Hebraic scholars of past and present, whom YOU never heard of or studied, for that matter...i.e Maimonides ( the Rambam), Nachmonides ( the Ramban), Rabbi Isaac Luria, Ibz Ezra, The Bal Shem Tov, Rashi, and Rabbi Tovia Singer, Rabbi Manis Friedman, Rabbi Michael Skobac ALL HAVE DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF HEBREW AND ANALYSIS OF TANACH/TORAH IF THERE WAS EVER ANY REASON TO ACCEPT YOUR FALSE MESSIAH, THEY WOULD HAVE ACCEPTED HIM BUT HE'S NOT THE MESSIAH.. THE REAL MESSIAH WILL COME IN TIME AND WHEN HE DOES THE WHOLE WORLD WILL KNOW AND ACCEPT HIM..THERE WILL BE PEACE IN THE WORLD AND JEWISH PEOPLE WILL RETURN TO ISRAEL...SO FAR, THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED AND YOUR FALSE MESSIAH FAILS ALL CRITERIA TO EVER BE ONE. YOU DISREGARD WHAT I WRITE 'CAUSE YOUR WEAK, FEEBLE & GULLIBLE MIND HAS BEEN POISONED WITH GARBAGE ALL YOUR LIFE..SHAME ON YOU FOR NOT KNOWING THE OLD TESTAMENT..THE NT IS FICTION.
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The Master of the Universe commanded that His Torah be kept for all of time (Deuteronomy 11 verse 1, Deuteronomy 6 verses 24&25, Deuteronomy 29 verse 28, 2Kings 17 verse 37, Psalm 105 verses 6-10 and verses 44&45, Exodus 31 verses 16&17, Psalm 88 verses 5-7, Exodus 20 verse 6), He commanded to not ever add onto or subtract from the Torah's requirements (Deuteronomy 4 verse 2 and Deuteronomy 13 verse 1), that He will never nullify His covenant with the descendants of Jacob (Judges 2 verse 1, Leviticus 26 verses 44&45, Deuteronomy 4 verses 30&31). If you believe in the Torah, by default you do not believe in any aspect or claim of christianity in any of its forms.@PaullsTheGreatApostleOfChrist
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When the Creator in His own scripture says "I am not a human" (Hoseah 11 verse 9) & that He doesn't change (Malachi 3 verse 6), when He claims the Jewish people are His witnesses that "no god came before Me and none after Me" (isaiah 43 verses 10&11) and commanded them "have no other god but Me", when He says "no man can see Me and live" (exodus 33 verse 20), when He tells us that He has no ascribeable form (isaiah 40 verse 18), when He warned an entire nation [who experienced a level of prophecy called "face to face" Deuteronomy 5 verse 4] that they should be so extremely careful and never forget that they saw NO IMAGE lest they ever G forbid attribute any image to Him whether male or female (Deuteronomy 4 verses 12-16), that God showed them all those miracles so that they know that there will never be any else (Deuteronomy 4 verse 35), when God says in His own Torah that it is forbidden to even mention on ones lips the names of gods other than His (exodus 23 verse 13), when He continously defined "idolatry" as a worship that "nor you nor your forefathers knew of" (Deuteronomy 11 verses 26-28, Deuteronomy 13 verse 6, Jeremiah 44 verses 1-5), when scripture says God is too unfathomable/lofty to ever dwell on earth (1st Kings 8:27), christians aren't aware of what true monotheism is, there is no faculty of imagination when standing before the Omnipresent/the One in charge of every milimeter of existence. Once you taste true monotheism, you understand how off in comparison the christian faith is with any claim of being "monotheists".@PaullsTheGreatApostleOfChrist
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God continously defined "idolatry" as a worship/belief system that "nor you nor your forefathers knew of" ---> "When your fellow tells you in secret saying "let us go and serve foreign worship WHICH YOU NOR YOUR FOREFATHERS HAVE KNOWN OF ...do not desire them, don't listen to them, do not have pity on them, do not have mercy on them and do not try to cover for them, for you shall surely cause him to be killed... because they seeked to lead you astray from 'ה your God " Deuteronomy 13.
"The word that came to Jeremiah concerning all the Jews dwelling in Egypt...because of their evil, which they did to provoke Me... to worship foreign worships, which they did not know of, NOT THEM, NOT YOU, NOR YOUR FOREFATHERS ." Jeremiah 44:1-5.
"And the CURSE is if you will not listen to the commandments of 'ה your God and IF YOU STRAY from the path that I am commanding you today to go and worship foreign gods WHICH YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN OF" Deuteronomy 11:26-28.
"They went and worshiped foreign gods, gods in which they HAVE NOT KNOWN OF..." Deuteronomy 29 verse 26.
"...worships they didn't know of, NEWLY INVENTED gods that YOUR FOREFATHERS DID NOT FEAR ".
"...and the sign or miracle in which they spoke happens and they say to you "lets go after foreign worships in which you HAVE NOT KNOWN OF and worship", do not listen to them, for 'ה your God is testing you to see if you love Him with all your heart and soul, after 'ה your God shall you go, it is Him that you shall fear, it is His commandments that you shall keep, His voice shall you listen to, Him shall you worship, and to Him shall you cling, and that person shall be killed, because they spoke falsehood against 'ה your God TO MAKE YOU STRAY FROM THE PATH THAT 'ה your God commanded you to go in and you shall remove that evil from your midst." Deuteronomy 13.
Case closed, RIP xianity.@PaullsTheGreatApostleOfChrist
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A] The mashiach of hebrew scripture will be a PATERNAL (not maternal) descendant of David (Isaiah 11 verse 1&10, Jeremiah 33 verse 15-18, Ezekiel 34 verses 23&24, Ezekiel 37 verse 24&25, Amos 9 verses 11&12, Hoseah 3 verse 5, 2Samuel 7 verse 16, Psalms 89 verses 4&5, Psalm 89 verses 34-38, Psalms 18 verse 51, Jeremiah 33 verses 20-26). Genealogy in the Bible is only passed down from father to son, (Numbers 1:1-18). Not having a biological father from the direct family tree (isaiah 11:1) of Jesse and David disqualifies a person from any claim of being the mashiach of hebrew scripture.
B] The mashiach of hebrew scriptures brings the Jewish people from all over the world-wide exiles back to the land of israel (isaiah 11 verses 11&12, ezekiel 37 verses 24&25, deuteronomy 30 verse 3, jeremiah 30 verse 3, jeremiah 32 verse 37, ezekiel 11 verse 17, ezekiel 36 verse 24, Ezekiel 20 verses 41&42). In the time of jesus the jews were in the land, he did not help them conquer their enemies as mashiach is supposed to (numbers 24 verses 17-19) and were exiled from israel shortly after, the total opposite of what the prophets revealed the true mashiach will do.
C] The mashiach of hebrew scriptures ushers in a utopian world of peace, where there will no longer be any wars (Zechariah 9 verse 10 [ps. Note, verse 10 is a direct continuation of verse 9 which christians claim was already fulfilled...yet he didn't fulfill the verse that it goes right into, verse 10?...], Isaiah 2 verses 1-4, Micha 4 verses 1-4, Hoseah 2 verse 20, Isaiah 60 verse 18). jesus did not bring world peace, the opposite is true, how much unnecessary loss came through the crusades and the likes all in the name of jesus.
D] The mashiach of hebrew scripture brings the entire jewish nation back to full observance of the Torah (Ezekiel 37 verse 24, all the same time periods of Ezekiel 11 verses 19&20, ezekiel 36 verses 26&27, Deut 30 verses 8&10, Jeremiah 31 verse 32). jesus in the NT disobeys the temple authorities in violation of Deut 17 verses 10-13, he and his men pluck wheat stalks on the shabbat day, a violation of shabbat (numbers 15 verses 32-36), he claims that divorce isn't allowed and that it is forbidden to marry after divorce, while the torah says otherwise, thus adding and/or subtracting from the Torah's laws (Deut 4:2, deut 13:1), he gives prophecies that didn't come true, such as "not one stone of this temple will be left ontop of another" and yet the western outer wall stands tall and deep into the temple mount till today [and yes theres archeological proof that it is infact the western outer wall of the temple], he said more than once "none of this generation shall taste death before you see the full kingdom come" did not happen, giving a failed prophecy according to the torah makes him a false prophet and viable to the D penalty (Deut 18 verses 20-22), and jesus def did not cause for Jewish people to embrace the torah, instead he caused a major rift and didn't observe the laws himself.
E] Mashiach of Hebrew scripture emerges at a time where there is universal knowledge of God (Isaiah 11 verse 9, which is a parallel to chavakuk 2 verse 14, Zechariah 8 verses 20-23, zechariah 14 verse 9 & verse 16, Isaiah 66 verse 23, isaiah 45 verse 23, ezekiel 38 verse 23, zephanya 3:9). The amount of statues there are of jesus and mary, oh boy, how the negligence of one pompous man caused for a third of the worlds population into all diff forms of polytheism and idolatry...
F] Mashiach of hebrew scripture reigns leader at a time when the 3rd ever lasting temple is standing forever (Ezekiel 37 verses 24-28 which is the same exact end of days temple of Isaiah 2, of zechariah 14 verses 20&21, of Malachi 3 verse 4, of Isaiah 56 verse 7, of Isaiah 60 verse 7, of Isaiah 66 verse 20, Ezekiel 20 verse 40) where the mashiach himself prepares flour and animal offerings at its inaguration (Ezekiel 45 verse 17, the same exact prince/נשיא of Ezekiel 37 verse 25).
The way God made sure no jew can ever make a claim of illegitimacy against a Jewish king was by commanding a prophet to anoint that king with the sacred anointing oil (exodus 30 verses 25-30) as He commanded Samuel to do to Saul (1samuel 10 verse 1), and to David (1samuel 16 verse 13), and as Tzadok the High priest and nathan the prophet did to King Solomon (1kings 1 verse 34). The mashiach is called "mashiach" (literally "anointed") because Elijah the prophet is supposed to anoint him with the sacred anointing oil as King over the Jewish people. God, who will split the ocean in order to convince when He wishes to convince, has NO PROBLEM making the jewish people believe someone is or isnt their next king, He did so for Saul, David, Solomon, the priests, all to remove any claim of illegitimacy by any jew. The Creator DID NOT DO SUCH for the christian man-diety, something so simple, and no. The jews did not "reject" jesus, the Creator did. That's the truth.@PaullsTheGreatApostleOfChrist
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@islampeace... GD warns us of anyone who performs alleged "miracles" in
Deut 13:2-4 2: If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, בכִּֽי־יָק֤וּם בְּקִרְבְּךָ֙ נָבִ֔יא א֖וֹ חֹלֵ֣ם חֲל֑וֹם וְנָתַ֥ן אֵלֶ֛יךָ א֖וֹת א֥וֹ מוֹפֵֽת:
3and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," גוּבָ֤א הָאוֹת֙ וְהַמּוֹפֵ֔ת אֲשֶׁר־דִּבֶּ֥ר אֵלֶ֖יךָ לֵאמֹ֑ר נֵֽלְכָ֞ה אַֽחֲרֵ֨י אֱלֹהִ֧ים אֲחֵרִ֛ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר לֹֽא־יְדַעְתָּ֖ם וְנָֽעָבְדֵֽם:
4you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the Lord, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul. דלֹ֣א תִשְׁמַ֗ע אֶל־דִּבְרֵי֙ הַנָּבִ֣יא הַה֔וּא א֛וֹ אֶל־חוֹלֵ֥ם הַֽחֲל֖וֹם הַה֑וּא כִּ֣י מְנַסֶּ֞ה יְהֹוָ֤ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶם֙ אֶתְכֶ֔ם לָדַ֗עַת הֲיִשְׁכֶ֤ם אֹֽהֲבִים֙ אֶת־יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶ֔ם בְּכָל־לְבַבְכֶ֖ם וּבְכָל־נַפְשְׁכֶֽם:
We are being TESTED to LOVE the ONE ETERNAL GD, AND NONE ELSE/
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@robertshipley6990 Praise HASHEM/GD!!! In heaven above and upon earth beneath, there is ONE GD, and NONE ELSE. Deut 4:39
No man dies for another man's sins. Deut 24:16; Isaiah 43:10-11. GD IS THE ONLY SAVIOR ( and little jesus isn't part of that equation). Deut 13:2-4 Beware of FALSE PROPHETS who perform works of wonder because you are being TESTED TO LOVE THE ONE GD of Israel and that there is NONE ELSE. Zech 8:23. The day will come when the Gentile will grab a garment of a Jew and ask to go with US because WE hold the TRUTH.. love and kisses from Maimonides ( Rambam), Nachmonides ( Ramban), Rashi, Bal Shem Tov, Vilna Gaon, Rabbi Isaac Luria ( Arizal), Ibn Ezra et al AND RABBI TOVIA SINGER, RABBI MICHAEL SKOBAC , RABBI MANIS FRIEDMAN, ALL of whom DECONSTRUCT the FALSE FAITH of xtianity, the LAST BEAST, here on YT videos. HAPPY PASSOVER, idol worshiper and blasphemer.
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@robertshipley6990 No, i'm not Hassidic, nor Satmar or Lubavachik..just a moderately conservative Jew who observes Kosher Law and observes the High Holy Holidays.. AND WHO BELIEVES IN ONE GD/HASHEM ..
On rare occasions, when i enter a church to admire it's architecture, i am repulsed by idols and paintings of various jesus figures as a component of GD or as being divine. This concept is diametrically opposed to ALL the tenets of Hebrew Scripture. I suggest you just don't blindly accept your faith before doing more investigative study . Maimonides ( Rambam), Nachmonides ( Ramban), Rashi, Rabbi Isaac Luria ( Arizal) Vilna Gaon, BalShemTov, et al were all MASTERS OF HEBREW SCRIPTURE and NONE EVER conceded the carpenter as divine. I suggest you watch Rabbi Tovia Singer , here on YT videos, deconstruct the false faith of xtianity to a T.
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@laetitianizeye3368 Deuteronomy 13:2-6: ‘If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for HASHEM, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love HASHEM, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall follow HASHEM, your God, fear Him, keep His commandments, heed His voice, worship Him, and cleave to Him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream shall be put to death *(Deuteronomy 13 and 18)*; because he spoke falsehood about HASHEM, your God Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and Who redeemed you from the house of bondage, to lead you astray from the way in which HASHEM, your God, commanded you to go; so shall you clear away the evil from your midst.’
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@nmr3647 Hey y'all...i take it you're a gentile and y'all are required to keep the Noahide Laws...Your fake messiah, the dead, non union carpenter, jesus, the same named person who fixes my toilet as porter of my building, is NOT MESSIAH. He FAILS ALL CRITERIA TO BE ONE! The New Testament is FAKE NEWS and not the words of G-D. Nowhere in Tanach is jesus mentioned or even alluded to , y'all. Please explain to me, y'all when Moses received the Law from G-D on Mt Sinai, as witnessed by MILLIONS OF ISRAELITES, there was NO MENTION OF jesus. You need to watch Rabbi Tovia Singer here on youtube and see how he deconstructs the fake faith that is christianity..By the way, y'all, which jesus to you prostrate and bow down to? The white dude with the blond hair, the black homie with the white wooly hair, the black homie with the grey wooly hair or the half breed baldy? Lol...Which one of the hundreds of jesus' do you worship????? LOL
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@nmr3647 The Moshiach is a mortal man of flesh and blood, a direct son/seed/shoot of King David, his teachings will bring all of Mankind the Rightful Worship of the CREATOR AND HIM ALONE, NOT HIMSELF, NOT A TRIO OF MAN MADE DEITIES!
Jeremiah tells of the only "New Covenant", it comes in the Messianic Age when GD is going to place His Holy Eternal Torah/Law in the Midst of the House of Israel (Israel and Judah, United, Restored and Redeemed) and He is going to INSCRIBE His Holy Torah/Law on their Hearts, so that they will no longer have to strive to keep His Holy Torah/Law, it will become INNATE TO THEM, SECOND NATURE, GD'S SON/SERVANT ISRAEL THE JEWS WILL BECOME WALKING EMBODIMENT'S OF HIS HOLY ETERNAL TORAH/LAW, it has NOT a thing to do with Gentiles, as the Jews alone keep and teach His Law/Holy Eternal Torah.
Daniel tells of the High Holy Ones (Gd's Son/Servant Israel the Jews) inheriting the Kingdom forever and to all Eternity.
Isaiah tells the Moshiach comes at the End of the Days and his teachings of Gd and His Holy Eternal Torah will transform the World to a Utopia, where PEACE REIGNS AND WAR IS NO MORE.
Genesis 3:15 tells of Gd placing within Mankind/the Seed of the Woman the Innate Hatred of Serpents and their kind.
As your post testify, you do not know the Creator, Scripture, His Son nor the coming Shoot of King David, all you know are the lies of your Cult of Man, they are ABOMINATIONS THAT STAND IN OPPOSITION TO GD AND SCRIPTURE!
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@nmr3647 The Moshiach of the Bible is a mortal man, a direct son/seed/shoot of King David, through his son Solomon, son after son, from the Tribe of Judah, of the House of David, who Isaiah tells comes at the End of Days and brings All of Mankind to the Rightful Worship of the Creator and Him Alone, the Restoration and Redemption of Israel/the Jews and World Peace where the Wolves abide with the Lambs, where the Implements of War are turned into Implements of Agriculture, but all your Jesus brought to Mankind is More PAGAN IDOLATRY of himself, a trio of Man Made deities, his mother, other dead people, Statues of Wood and Stone, Angels, a dirty painted sheet, crackers and wooden sticks. To Israel/the Jews Jesus brought only 1700+ years of PERSECUTION, OPPRESSION AND DEATH as History testifies that Christianity became the Jews longest enduring and most DEADLIEST OF ALL THEIR OPPRESSORS, to a T it alone fits the description of the morphing Last Beast and as Jesus said, he did NOT COME TO BRING PEACE BUT DIVISION, to set family one against the other, the very reason why Gd send Elijah, to come and UNDO ALL THE DIVISION FOSTERED BY FALSE TEACHERS, lest HE smite the Earth with Utter Destruction. As this Hedonistic, Pagan Filled World of DIVISION, CHAOS AND MAYHEM TESTIFY that Neither Elijah Nor Moshiach have yet come, so far only Fakes have shown up. Your Jesus was the Ultimate Antimoshiach and his cult of Christianity is the Last Beast.
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@nmr3647 If you need a chiropractor for your stiff neck, i can recommend one. The Tanakh is NOT part of the New Testament or vice versa..where did you ever, ever get that absurd idea from? It has 0 relevance to it...it's totally diametrically opposed to that book, given that the dead carpenter is NOT MESSIAH or a deity. You have not delved into your faith and if you do, you'll find major discrepancies among the writings of each of the alleged authors of that book...if they wrote it at all..who really knows??? You come off like you have all the right answers and i'm wrong!!!... Guess what??? You're totally wrong in what you espouse. Since you can't show any mention of the false messiah in Tanackh , by name, IN HEBREW ..or that someone was to die for another man's sins...On the contrary, NO MAN DIES FOR ANOTHER MAN'S SINS. Deut 24:16; You are being tested to love the ONE G-D AND NONE ELSE. Deut 4:39...so far, you've failed miserably. No observer of Judaism cares about the dead carpenter, including myself. So with that, have a pleasant day..
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@joanncota21 Excuse me BUT you don't quite understand the import of my comment. I have been praying to GD long before you were ever born. However, if you think that human flesh is divine ( like Kim Jung Un of North Korea is worshiped by North Koreans), then you are clearly mistaken. Your man idol, jesus, is NOT DIVINE, NOT GD NOR MESSIAH. Nowhere in the Hebrew Scriptures aka Tanakh is his name EXPLICITLY CITED or INVOKED as such. Only in the #1 book of fiction, new testament, which narratives are NOT FROM GD, is he so purported. So, your perception of GD is only your truth, not mine. However, the words of GD speak in Tanakh and HE admonishes idolators and blasphemers like yourself, Isaiah 43:10-11 GD is the ONLY SAVIOR ( and jesus isn't part of this equation) Deut 13:2-4 You are being TESTED to love the ONE GD OF ISRAEL and to disclaim those who perform alleged "miracles". No man dies for another man's sins Deut 24:16; You may want to learn from Rabbi Tovia Singer, here on YT videos and see how he deconstructs the false faith of xtianity to a T. Shalom
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@titaniumspecial4207 haahaha. lololol. what a crock of nonsense and twisted narratives with NO proof, whatsoever, of substance. Who was "john" and why did he invent this narrative of fiction? Probably just to push a false faith onto the gullible masses. Looks like he got you suckered into his word salad..Actually, this is what johnny boy really wrote..." I am the whey, the tooth and the lie, EVERYBODY comes to the Father WITHOUT ME". BTW, NOWHERE in Hebrew Scriptures aka Tanakh, is your non union carpenter deemed divine, son of GD or messiah. NOWHERE!! Only in the #1 book of corrupted fiction and nonsense, new testament, is he so purported. Your mind has been poisoned by the churches which instilled this harangue into you from birth. You don't know Hebrew and never studied Tanakh with Orthodox Rabbis so you can't possibly understand that you've been taught LIES all along. Your faith doesn't even make logical sense. Why would a benevolent and righteous GD ask everyone to believe in someone else just to reach HIM? If you want to reach GD aka HASHEM, just pray to GD. No need for any intermediary. Come to the ONE GD OF ISRAEL. Deut 6:4. GD IS ONE ( not a trinity) Shalom.
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@Adam-n8y The One True Creator G_d gave specific details to the Hebrew prophets about when the Real Messiach comes. No One! Especially the so-called "Jesus" has fulfilled any of them yet! 1. When the Real Messiach comes, he will be a normal man from the line of David through Solomon and will sit on the throne of David and rule from there forever. *Obviously, that hasn't happened yet! 2. When the Real Messiach comes, it will be at the End of Days. * Obviously, back then was not the End of Days! 3. When the Real Messiach comes, the Temple will be rebuilt never to be destroyed again, and The Messiach will start the animal sacrifices in the Temple again. * The opposite happened back then! The very fact that the Temple isn't standing proves that the so-called "Jesus" is Not The Messiach! 4. When the Real Messiach comes, Everyone around the world (including atheist) will know that he is The Messiach! * We KNOW that the so-called "Jesus" is Not The Messiach! 5. When the Real Messiach comes, death will cease to exist. * Obviously, that hasn't happened yet either because so many people are still getting sick and dying. 6. When the Real Messiach comes, there will be World Peace and weapons of war will be rebuilt into farming implements. * We're still waiting for that one!!! 7. When the Real Messiach comes, Everyone around the world, from every language will grab the Jews and say "Now we know that we have inherited only lies and G_d has been with you Jews all along. Please take us with you!" * We're still waiting for that one, too!!! No where in the Torah/Tanach does it ever say that the Messiach will keep failing and have to come back again and again. According to Christianity, the so-called "Jesus" already came back a second time, but he still never fulfilled any of those Prophecies about the Real Messiach. So now Christians are waiting for a third coming. Christianity strikes out again!!!
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@Adam-n8y The Messiah of the Bible is a mortal man of flesh and blood, a direct son/seed/shoot of King David from his very body/seed as Gd promised David, son after son, from the Tribe of Judah, of the House of David who Isaiah tells comes at the END OF THE DAYS, and his teachings bring the World to a UTOPIA where all of MANKIND WORSHIPS ONLY THE CREATOR, where Israel the Jews are United, Restored and Redeemed and they take their place as LEADERS OF THE NATIONS, where PEACE REIGNS AND WAR IS NO MORE!
However the False Teachings of your jesus/cult of Christianity brought MORE PAGAN IDOLATRY TO MANKIND of himself, a trio of false deities, his own mother, other dead people, Angels, Paintings, Statues of Wood and Stone, a dirty painted sheet, crackers and wooden sticks, all of which are ABOMINATIONS TO THE CREATOR WHO COMMANDED THAT HE ALONE IS TO BE WORSHIPED!
Just as the False Teachings of jesus/cult of Christianity brought 1700+ years of the demented Devotees of jesus over and over and over again BURNING JEWS ALIVE FOR NOT ABANDONING GD AND HIS HOLY ETERNAL TORAH, INFLICTING PERSECUTION, OPPRESSION AND SLAUGHTER UPON GD'S SON/SERVANT ISRAEL THE JEWS becoming their LONGEST enduring and most DEADLIEST of all their OPPRESSORS, who alone to a T, fits the description of the morphing LAST BEAST, ENEMY OF GD AND HIS SON/SERVANT ISRAEL THE JEWS!
And as for world peace, your jesus said that he did NOT COME TO BRING PEACE BUT DIVISION TO THE FAMILY, TO SET IT AT ODDS ONE WITH THE OTHER, the very reason why Gd sends Elijah, to come and UNDO ALL THE DIVISION IN THE FAMILY FOSTERED BY FALSE TEACHERS, lest HE smite the Earth with utter destruction.
As this Hedonistic, Pagan Filled World of DIVISION, CHAOS, MAYHEM AND ONE BLOODY WAR AFTER ANOTHER TESTIFIES that neither Elijah nor Messiah have yet come, so far only False Teachers whose lies have brought us to this sorry state that reflects the days of Noah have shown up.
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@Adam-n8y Is Jesus the son that is referred to in Proverbs 30:4?
Answer: In an attempt to prove the divine origin of Jesus, Christian theologians have pointed to this proverb as a prooftext for their claim. However, an examination of what the text actually says will dispel any attempt at such a forced interpretation.
After informing us that he does not have all the wisdom and understanding that he should possess, Agur, the son of Jakeh, poses a series of rhetorical Questions, the Answers to which he realizes all men who seek knowledge should possess:
Who has ascended up into heaven, and descended? Who has gathered the wind in his fists? Who has bound the waters in his garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and what is his son's name, if you know? (Proverbs 30:4)
Knowing the Answers to these Questions is to know the fundamentals of all knowledge.
The Answer to the Question "What is his name?" is given in the Scriptures, where we are informed that only God, the creator of heaven and earth, is in complete control of the forces of nature. Following this Question a second Question is asked: "What is his son's name?" As the first Question is readily Answered through a reading of the Scriptures, the source of all true knowledge, so, too, the second Question is to be Answered by studying the same source. We thus obtain the Answer by studying such verses as Exodus 4:22: "Israel is My son, my firstborn"; Deuteronomy 14:1: "You are the children of the Lord your God"; and Hosea 2:1: "It will be said to them: 'You are the children of the living God.'" Consequently, it is Israel that is the name of His son, His firstborn. True, we find elsewhere in the Bible that David and Solomon stand in a filial relationship with God (Psalms 89:27-28, 1 Chronicles 22:10, 28:6). Indeed, this will also be true of the future Messiah. But the right to this title is due, in the final analysis, to the fact that they are the representatives or personifications of Israel as a whole. Hence, it is Israel that is the sole bearer of the august title of the "son" or "firstborn" of God.
Christian theology may argue that any reference to Israel's relationship with God only points to an allegedly greater relationship between God and Jesus, but this argument remains unproved, having no bases in the Jewish Scriptures. It is an argument based on misguided motives, trying to prove the preconceived by forced interpretation. Only in a figurative sense will the future Messiah, when he comes, enter into the "sonship" of God, a position he will share with all of God's chosen servants.
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@Adam-n8y For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty Gd, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even forever. The zeal of the Etrnl of hosts will perform this.
ANALYSIS:
Christians see the above verses from Isaiah 9 to be speaking of Jesus, who came into the world as a child. However, after having read the above quotation, a few questions should come to mind.
When did Jesus ever run any government?
When was Jesus ever called a Wonderful Counselor, or a Mighty Gd, or an Everlasting Father, or a Prince of Peace? Jesus was never called by any of these names anywhere in the Christians’ New Testament and not at all in his own lifetime.
Christians always seem to misunderstand this quotation. This is because they do not understand Hebrew, nor do they understand names, nor do they understand Hebrew names.
First, let us understand names. In most languages, every name has a meaning. The name ‘Anthony’ means ‘priceless’ and the name ‘Alexander’ means ‘protector.’ If we were to give a child the first and middle names of Anthony Alexander, would that mean that we are saying that this child is a ‘priceless protector?’ Would we call out to them, ‘Hey, Priceless Protector, how are you?’ Of course not.
Hebrew names sometimes say something about Gd. The name Michael means ‘who is like Gd.’ The name Elihu means ‘my Gd is He,’ or ‘He is my Gd.’ The name Immanuel means ‘Gd is with us,’ just to give a few examples. If someone has the name, Elihu, (again, meaning ‘He is my Gd’) would that mean that the human being known as Elihu is Gd? These names say something about Gd, even though they are the names of ordinary human beings. A better translation to the verse in question might be:
…and his name will be called, ‘A wonderful counselor is the mighty Gd, an everlasting father is the ruler of peace.’
This means that there are really only two Hebrew names in the verse, which are given to a human being and not to a divine being, even though the names make a statement about Gd. Those names, like Anthony Alexander in our example above, would be ‘Pele Yoetz El Gibor Avi Ad Sar Shalom.’ The way it is written in the original Hebrew, the names would be hyphenated as ‘Pele-Yoetz-El-Gibor’ and ‘Avi-Ad-Sar-Shalom.’ Lengthy names like these were not uncommon in the Bible, and in Isaiah specifically. For example, in Isaiah 8:3, we find the name, ‘Maher-shalal-chash-baz,’ which means ‘the spoil speeds, the prey hastens.’
But let us suppose that this verse really did contain four names. How well would they apply to Jesus? Is this a case where at first the description of the person described in Isaiah 9:6-7 sounds like the story of Jesus, but, on closer examination, it isn’t?
‘Wonderful Counselor’
In the Christian’s New Testament we find two stories about Jesus that certainly do not describe him as a Wonderful Counselor:
Another of the disciples said to him, ‘Lord, let me first go and bury my father.’ But Jesus said to him, ‘Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their own dead.’ [Matthew 8:21]
What kind of ‘Wonderful Counselor’ would tell a man who had recently lost his beloved father not to see to his father’s funeral?
When he had said this, one of the officers standing by struck Jesus with his hand, saying, ‘Is that how you answer the high priest?’ Jesus answered him, ‘If I have spoken wrongly, bear witness to the wrong; but if I have spoken rightly, why do you strike me?’ [John 18:22-23]
Everyone is familiar with the quotation from Jesus, ‘Do not resist one who is evil, but if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.’ [Matthew 5:39] In the quotation above from John 18, Jesus does not turn his other cheek to the one who struck him, but rebukes him instead. One who says one thing but does another is called a hypocrite, and how can a hypocrite be a ‘Wonderful Counselor?’
‘Mighty Gd.’
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, ‘Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?’ that is, ‘My Gd, My Gd, why hast thou forsaken me?’ [Matthew 27:46]
If Jesus were the ‘Mighty Gd,’ why would he have to call upon another as Gd in order to save him? How can Gd forsake himself? This also denies the very idea of a trinity, and shows how Jesus does not fit the description of the Isaiah 9 quotation.
And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, Gd: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. [Matthew 19:16-17]
In the above verses, Jesus distinguishes between himself and Gd. How could he have been the ‘Mighty Gd,’ if he himself made a distinction between himself and Gd? If Jesus knew that only Gd is good, and that he should not be called good, then Jesus knew that Jesus was not Gd.
‘Everlasting Father’
In the trinity, Jesus is the son, and not the Father. He cannot be both at the same time. As a matter of fact, Jesus himself showed that he was not the Father, and claimed not to have the same will, or the same knowledge as the Father.
And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, ‘My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.’ [Matthew 26:39]
Jesus calls the One to whom he prayed his Father, so how can Jesus be ‘the Everlasting Father,’ if he called another his Father? How could Jesus be the Father if the will of Jesus is not the same as the will of the Father? This denies the very idea of the trinity.
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. [Mark 13:32]
In the above verse, Jesus claims there is something that he does not know, but that only the Father knows. So how can Jesus, ‘the son,’ also be the Father if their knowledge is not the same?
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Gd, and your Gd. [John 20:17]
How can the Father ascend to Himself? In the above verse, Jesus not only distinguishes between himself and his Father, but he also makes it sound as though the relationship that he has with Gd, ‘The Father,’ is exactly the same relationship that all people have with Gd, who is, in fact, the Father of all.
‘Prince of Peace’
First of all, this is a mistranslation. The words in the original Hebrew are, ‘sar shalom.’ The word ‘sar’ does not mean ‘prince,’ it means ‘ruler.’ Now, one might say that a ‘prince’ is a ‘ruler.’ However, the reason why the Christians choose the word ‘prince’ instead of the word ‘ruler’ in Christian translations is that the word ‘prince’ makes one think that the original verse is speaking of a ‘son of the king,’ which in the Christian mind alludes to Jesus whom they believe to have been the son of Gd, the King. However, the word is ‘ruler,’ and not ‘prince.’ ‘Prince’ in Hebrew is ‘nasee’ and not ‘sar.’ The Christian translators intentionally chose the English word ‘prince’ to lead the reader into thinking about Jesus.
In the Christian’s New Testament, we also find a quotation which certainly does not show Jesus to have been a ‘ruler’ or even a ‘prince of peace.’
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. [Matthew 10:34-36]
How could anyone who said such a thing be considered a prince or ruler of peace? How could anyone who said such a thing have been the Messiah? We know that the true Messiah will bring an everlasting peace and, along with Elijah the Prophet, will bring families closer to each other and not further apart (see Isaiah 2:4, Micah 4:1-4, and Malachi 4:5).
I have already stated that Christians rarely include verse 7 when they quote Isaiah chapter 9. The reason is that in verse 7 it states, ‘Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end.’ Perhaps they do not quote verse 7 because Jesus never brought peace to the world, nor did he ever intend to, as the above quotation from Matthew 10:34-36 shows.
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@Random.sachen1 Deuteronomy 13:2-6: ‘If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for HASHEM, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love HASHEM, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall follow HASHEM, your God, fear Him, keep His commandments, heed His voice, worship Him, and cleave to Him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream shall be put to death *(Deuteronomy 13 and 18)*; because he spoke falsehood about HASHEM, your God Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and Who redeemed you from the house of bondage, to lead you astray from the way in which HASHEM, your God, commanded you to go; so shall you clear away the evil from your midst.’
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MB MB Was Jesus the Messiah?
Was (is) Jesus the Messiah?
Imagine you just convinced the missionary that Jesus was not a prophet, (not that it would be so easy). He may now argue that he is the Messiah. Let’s see if his claim holds any water. (Note: this is very important information to impart to the students, even if you teach nothing else in this curriculum guide)
a. The Messiah According To Judaism
One of the basic premises upon which Christianity rests is that Jesus was the Messiah predicted in the Jewish Bible. Judaism has always rejected this belief. Since the goal of “Hebrew Christian” missionaries is to convince Jews that Jesus did in fact fulfill the requirements of the promised Messiah, it is necessary to examine the Jewish understanding of the Messiah to understand why such claims are simply not true.
b. The Hebrew Roots Of The Word “Messiah”
The Hebrew word for “Messiah” is “Moshiach – .” The literal and proper translation of this word is “anointed,” which refers to a ritual of anointing and consecrating someone or something with oil (I Samuel 10:1-2). It is used throughout the Jewish Bible in reference to a wide variety of individuals and/or objects; for example, a Jewish king (I Kings 1:39), Jewish priests (Leviticus 4:3), prophets (Isaiah 61:1), the Jewish Temple and its utensils (Exodus 40:9-11), unleavened bread (Numbers 6:15), and a non-Jewish king (Cyrus king of Persia, Isaiah 45:1). *
* Some form of the Hebrew word moshiach is used over 150 times in the Jewish bible. Christians consistently translate this word as anointed, except in the ninth chapter of Daniel. In this chapter missionaries deviate from this and other correct translations in an attempt to prove that the messiah came before the destruction of the Second Temple. Rather than speaking about “the messiah,” when read in context and with a correct translation this chapter clearly speaks about two different “anointed” subjects hundreds of years apart. a) The first is the anointed King Cyrus (Isaiah 45:1) who granted permission to the Jews to return and build the Second Temple 52 years “7 weeks of years” after the destruction of the First Temple. b) The second is the anointed priesthood (Leviticus 4:3) that was terminated 434 years “62 weeks of years” later.
c. The Criteria To Be Fulfilled By The Jewish Messiah
In accurate translations of Jewish Scriptures, the word “Moshiach” is never translated as “Messiah,” but as “anointed.” Nevertheless, Judaism has always maintained a fundamental belief in a Messianic figure. Since the concept of a Messiah is one that was given by God to the Jews, Jewish tradition is best qualified to describe and recognize the expected Messiah. This tradition has its foundation in numerous biblical references, many of which are cited below. Judaism understands the Messiah to be a human being (with no connotation of deity or divinity) who will bring about certain changes in the world and who must fulfill certain specific criteria before being acknowledged as the Messiah.
These specific criteria are as follows:
1) He must be Jewish. (Deuteronomy. 17:15, Numbers 24:17)
2) He must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a
direct male descendent of King David (I Chronicles 17:11, Psalms 89:29-38, Jeremiah 33:17, II Samuel 7:12-16) and King Solomon.
(I Chronicles 22:10, II Chronicles 7:18)
3) He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel. (Isaiah 27:12-13, Isaiah 11:12)
4) He must rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. (Micah 4:1)
5) He must bring world peace. (Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:6, Micah 4:3)
6) He must influence the entire world to acknowledge and serve one G-d. (Isaiah 11:9, Isaiah 40:5, Zephaniah 3:9)
All of these criteria for the Messiah are best stated in chapter 37:24-28 of the book of Ezekiel:
“and My servant David will be a king over them, and they will all have one shepherd, and they will walk in My ordinances, and keep My statutes, and observe them, and they shall live on the land that I gave to Jacob My servant…and I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their G-d and they will be My people. And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever.” (Ezekiel 37:24-28)
Emphasis: If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah!
d. Why Jesus Could Not Have Been The Jewish Messiah
A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that, although Jesus was Jewish, he did not fulfill any of the other criteria. An examination of the contradictory accounts of Jesus’ genealogy demonstrates a number of difficulties with the fulfillment of the second criterion. Specifically, the New Testament claims that Jesus did not have a physical father. The Jewish Scriptures, however, clearly states that a person’s genealogy and tribal membership is transmitted exclusively through one’s physical father (Numbers 1:18, Jeremiah 33:17). Therefore, Jesus cannot possibly be a descendent of the tribe of Judah nor of King David and King Solomon.
There are even further problems with any attempts to use the Jewish Scriptures to prove Jesus’ genealogy through Joseph, the husband of Mary (Jesus’ mother).
For the New Testament claims that Joseph was a descendent of King Jeconiah, who in the Hebrew Bible was cursed to never have a descendent “sitting on the throne of David and ruling any more in Judah” (Jeremiah 22:30). Joseph’s genealogy, even if it were transmittable to Jesus, would only serve to further disqualify Jesus as the Messiah.
Finally, there is the problem of the contradictory accounts of Jesus’ genealogy in Matthew, Chapter 1 and Luke, Chapter 3. The common Christian explanation of this contradiction claims that Luke’s genealogy is that of Jesus’ mother, Mary. However, this is unfounded, even according to the Greek original. In addition, it has already been established that genealogy is transferred solely through the father, making this attempted explanation completely irrelevant. Even if one could trace one’s genealogy through one’s mother, there would be the additional problem in that Luke 3:31 lists Mary as a descendent of David through Nathan, Solomon’s brother, and not through Solomon himself as is prophesied in I Chronicles 22:10 of the Jewish Bible.
The third, fourth, fifth and sixth criteria have obviously not been fulfilled, either during Jesus’ time or since. Any Christian claims that these final criteria will be fulfilled in a “Second Coming” are irrelevant because the concept of the Messiah coming twice has no scriptural basis.
To summarize, we cannot know that someone is the Messiah until he fulfills all of the above criteria.
The Christian understanding of the Messiah and Jesus differs greatly from the Jewish biblical view. These differences developed as a result of the Church’s influence during the time of the Emperor Constantine* and the Council of Nicaea that issued the Nicene Creed in 325 CE.
Emphasis: The Messiah was never meant to be an object of worship. His primary mission and accomplishment is to bring world peace and to fill the world with the knowledge and awareness of one G-d.
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@johnrooney507 Was Jesus the Messiah?
Was (is) Jesus the Messiah?
Imagine you just convinced the missionary that Jesus was not a prophet, (not that it would be so easy). He may now argue that he is the Messiah. Let’s see if his claim holds any water. (Note: this is very important information to impart to the students, even if you teach nothing else in this curriculum guide)
a. The Messiah According To Judaism
One of the basic premises upon which Christianity rests is that Jesus was the Messiah predicted in the Jewish Bible. Judaism has always rejected this belief. Since the goal of “Hebrew Christian” missionaries is to convince Jews that Jesus did in fact fulfill the requirements of the promised Messiah, it is necessary to examine the Jewish understanding of the Messiah to understand why such claims are simply not true.
b. The Hebrew Roots Of The Word “Messiah”
The Hebrew word for “Messiah” is “Moshiach – .” The literal and proper translation of this word is “anointed,” which refers to a ritual of anointing and consecrating someone or something with oil (I Samuel 10:1-2). It is used throughout the Jewish Bible in reference to a wide variety of individuals and/or objects; for example, a Jewish king (I Kings 1:39), Jewish priests (Leviticus 4:3), prophets (Isaiah 61:1), the Jewish Temple and its utensils (Exodus 40:9-11), unleavened bread (Numbers 6:15), and a non-Jewish king (Cyrus king of Persia, Isaiah 45:1). *
* Some form of the Hebrew word moshiach is used over 150 times in the Jewish bible. Christians consistently translate this word as anointed, except in the ninth chapter of Daniel. In this chapter missionaries deviate from this and other correct translations in an attempt to prove that the messiah came before the destruction of the Second Temple. Rather than speaking about “the messiah,” when read in context and with a correct translation this chapter clearly speaks about two different “anointed” subjects hundreds of years apart. a) The first is the anointed King Cyrus (Isaiah 45:1) who granted permission to the Jews to return and build the Second Temple 52 years “7 weeks of years” after the destruction of the First Temple. b) The second is the anointed priesthood (Leviticus 4:3) that was terminated 434 years “62 weeks of years” later.
c. The Criteria To Be Fulfilled By The Jewish Messiah
In accurate translations of Jewish Scriptures, the word “Moshiach” is never translated as “Messiah,” but as “anointed.” Nevertheless, Judaism has always maintained a fundamental belief in a Messianic figure. Since the concept of a Messiah is one that was given by God to the Jews, Jewish tradition is best qualified to describe and recognize the expected Messiah. This tradition has its foundation in numerous biblical references, many of which are cited below. Judaism understands the Messiah to be a human being (with no connotation of deity or divinity) who will bring about certain changes in the world and who must fulfill certain specific criteria before being acknowledged as the Messiah.
These specific criteria are as follows:
1) He must be Jewish. (Deuteronomy. 17:15, Numbers 24:17)
2) He must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a
direct male descendent of King David (I Chronicles 17:11, Psalms 89:29-38, Jeremiah 33:17, II Samuel 7:12-16) and King Solomon.
(I Chronicles 22:10, II Chronicles 7:18)
3) He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel. (Isaiah 27:12-13, Isaiah 11:12)
4) He must rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. (Micah 4:1)
5) He must bring world peace. (Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:6, Micah 4:3)
6) He must influence the entire world to acknowledge and serve one G-d. (Isaiah 11:9, Isaiah 40:5, Zephaniah 3:9)
All of these criteria for the Messiah are best stated in chapter 37:24-28 of the book of Ezekiel:
“and My servant David will be a king over them, and they will all have one shepherd, and they will walk in My ordinances, and keep My statutes, and observe them, and they shall live on the land that I gave to Jacob My servant…and I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their G-d and they will be My people. And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever.” (Ezekiel 37:24-28)
Emphasis: If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah!
d. Why Jesus Could Not Have Been The Jewish Messiah
A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that, although Jesus was Jewish, he did not fulfill any of the other criteria. An examination of the contradictory accounts of Jesus’ genealogy demonstrates a number of difficulties with the fulfillment of the second criterion. Specifically, the New Testament claims that Jesus did not have a physical father. The Jewish Scriptures, however, clearly states that a person’s genealogy and tribal membership is transmitted exclusively through one’s physical father (Numbers 1:18, Jeremiah 33:17). Therefore, Jesus cannot possibly be a descendent of the tribe of Judah nor of King David and King Solomon.
There are even further problems with any attempts to use the Jewish Scriptures to prove Jesus’ genealogy through Joseph, the husband of Mary (Jesus’ mother).
For the New Testament claims that Joseph was a descendent of King Jeconiah, who in the Hebrew Bible was cursed to never have a descendent “sitting on the throne of David and ruling any more in Judah” (Jeremiah 22:30). Joseph’s genealogy, even if it were transmittable to Jesus, would only serve to further disqualify Jesus as the Messiah.
Finally, there is the problem of the contradictory accounts of Jesus’ genealogy in Matthew, Chapter 1 and Luke, Chapter 3. The common Christian explanation of this contradiction claims that Luke’s genealogy is that of Jesus’ mother, Mary. However, this is unfounded, even according to the Greek original. In addition, it has already been established that genealogy is transferred solely through the father, making this attempted explanation completely irrelevant. Even if one could trace one’s genealogy through one’s mother, there would be the additional problem in that Luke 3:31 lists Mary as a descendent of David through Nathan, Solomon’s brother, and not through Solomon himself as is prophesied in I Chronicles 22:10 of the Jewish Bible.
The third, fourth, fifth and sixth criteria have obviously not been fulfilled, either during Jesus’ time or since. Any Christian claims that these final criteria will be fulfilled in a “Second Coming” are irrelevant because the concept of the Messiah coming twice has no scriptural basis.
To summarize, we cannot know that someone is the Messiah until he fulfills all of the above criteria.
The Christian understanding of the Messiah and Jesus differs greatly from the Jewish biblical view. These differences developed as a result of the Church’s influence during the time of the Emperor Constantine* and the Council of Nicaea that issued the Nicene Creed in 325 CE.
Emphasis: The Messiah was never meant to be an object of worship. His primary mission and accomplishment is to bring world peace and to fill the world with the knowledge and awareness of one G-d.
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@johnrooney507 Get EDUCATED Rooney:
The Tanakh is composed of the Torah, Nevi’im, and Ketuv’im. The Tanakh is the basis of
understanding the laws, philosophy, and history of Judaism. As such, studying the Tanakh is the
first step to understanding the whole of Judaism.
The Torah is made up of five books that were given to Moshe directly from God shortly after
the Exodus from Mitzrayim around 1230BCE. The Torah was handed down through the
successive generations from the time of Moshe.
The Nevi’im covers the time period from the death of Moshe through the Babylonian exile
(ca.1200BCE-587BCE) and contains 19 books. The Nevi’im covers the time from the
Hebrews entering Eretz Yisrael, conquest of Yericho, conquest of Eretz Yisrael and division
among the tribes, judicial system, Era of Saul and David, Solomon’s wisdom and the
construction of the First Beit HaMikdash, kings of Eretz Yisrael, prophecy, messianic
prophecies, and the Babylonian exile.
The Ketuv’im covers the period after the return from the Babylonian exile (6th century
BCE) and contains 12 books. The Ketuv’im is made up of various writings that do not have an
overall theme. This section of the Tanakh includes poems and songs, the stories of Job, Ruth, and
Esther, the writings and prophecies of Daniel, and the history of the kings of Eretz Yisrael.
The Tanakh is also called Miqra (meaning “reading” or “that which is read”). The three-part
division reflected in the acronym “Tanakh” is well attested to in documents from the Second
Beit HaMikdash period. During that period, however, “Tanakh” was not used as a word or term.
Instead, the proper title was Miqra, because the biblical texts were read publicly. Miqra
continues to be used in Hebrew to this day alongside Tanakh to refer to the Hebrew scripture. In
modern spoken Hebrew both are used interchangeably.
According to Rabbinical Judaism after the destruction of Yerushalayim Rabbi Zakkai asked for
permission from the Romans to set up a school in Yavneh (Gittin 56b).1
It is at this place that
the school at Yavneh canonized the Tanakh.2
This teaching is rejected by Karaite Judaism
because the Tanakh was already “codified” by the time the Second Beit HaMikdash was
destroyed. All the books contained in the Tanakh were already well-known to the Yisraelites
and were established as the authoritative and divine texts for the Yisraelites.
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@JaylinBezuidenhout-v5l NO he's NOT!!! Nowhere in Hebrew Scriptures aka Tanakh is your man idol's name EXPLICITLY CITED as son of GD, as messiah or divine. In fact , he was VOTED divine at the Council of Nicea. At Mt Sinai, when GD gave the Torah to Moses, as witnessed by an entire nation of Israelites, there was NO MENTION of a jesus as you wish him to be. NONE!! Only in the book of fiction, new testament, are these claims made. And since that book isn't the words of GD, rather of men, it's mute and meaningless and diametrically opposed to the tenets of Judaism. You may want to watch Rabbi Tovia Singer here on YT videos, deconstruct the false faith of xtianity to a T. Hey, have a nice day. Shalom.
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@barbarabyrd7801 You just proved , with your inane statement, that your faith is false. No religion ( other than yours) intimidates and makes threats that " before it's too late", one has to accept an individual as GD. NOWHERE in Hebrew Scriptures aka Tanakh, is your claim anywhere near supported. Judaism doesn't threaten anyone with the tenets and laws of the ONE GD of Israel. But, the fake news, new testament, written by men ( which narratives are NOT from GD) supports lies and eschews threats that one must worship a non union carpenter as messiah OR ELSE. What rubbish and garbage. You man idol fails all criteria ever to be messiah. In fact, he was VOTED divine at the Council of Nicea. Prophecy ENDED at Malachi so, Paul, Peter, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John et al were not prophets , just FICTION WRITERS. You practice blasphemy and pagan idolatry against the ONE GD of Israel. SHAME!!!
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@lowlightevangelist9431 Deut 13:2
If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, בכִּֽי־יָק֤וּם בְּקִרְבְּךָ֙ נָבִ֔יא א֖וֹ חֹלֵ֣ם חֲל֑וֹם וְנָתַ֥ן אֵלֶ֛יךָ א֖וֹת א֥וֹ מוֹפֵֽת:
3and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," גוּבָ֤א הָאוֹת֙ וְהַמּוֹפֵ֔ת אֲשֶׁר־דִּבֶּ֥ר אֵלֶ֖יךָ לֵאמֹ֑ר נֵֽלְכָ֞ה אַֽחֲרֵ֨י אֱלֹהִ֧ים אֲחֵרִ֛ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר לֹֽא־יְדַעְתָּ֖ם וְנָֽעָבְדֵֽם:
4you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the Lord, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul. דלֹ֣א תִשְׁמַ֗ע אֶל־דִּבְרֵי֙ הַנָּבִ֣יא הַה֔וּא א֛וֹ אֶל־חוֹלֵ֥ם הַֽחֲל֖וֹם הַה֑וּא כִּ֣י מְנַסֶּ֞ה יְהֹוָ֤ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶם֙ אֶתְכֶ֔ם לָדַ֗עַת הֲיִשְׁכֶ֤ם אֹֽהֲבִים֙ אֶת־יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹֽהֵיכֶ֔ם בְּכָל־לְבַבְכֶ֖ם וּבְכָל־נַפְשְׁכֶֽם:
You are being TESTED to Love the ONE, ETERNAL GD, and NONE ELSE. Deut 4:39
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Excuse me but there is no" to be continued" after Tanakh. The NT is diametrically opposed in tenets to Tanakh, which are the words of GD, rather than of men, which is what the narratives of the NT are all about. There is no prophecy after Malachi; Judaism believes in the ONE ETERNAL GD and NONE ELSE.. Read Isaiah 43:10-11, GD is the ONLY SAVIOR ( no jesus mentioned here); Read Deut 24:16 No man dies for another man's sins; Read Deut 4:39. There is NONE ELSE BUT GD in heaven above and upon earth below ( no jesus here); Read Deut 13:2-4 Beware of those who perform "miracles" because they shall not be followed ( to paraphrase). At Mt Sinai, when GD gave TORAH to Moses, as witnessed by 3,000,000 there was NO MENTION of a "son of GD" or jesus as Messiah...That idea came way later. At the Council of Nicea, he was VOTED divine. The Rambam ( Maimonides), Nachmonides ( Ramban), Rabbi Isaac Luria ( Arizal), Bal Shem Tov, Vilna Gaon, Ibn Ezra , Rashi and myriads of other Rabbinic Scholars and Masters of HEBRAIC studies of yesteryear and today NEVER EVER accepted the carpenter as divine. You can't read Hebrew and never studied Tanakh with Orthodox Rabbis so your views are through a Christological lens.Rabbi Tovia Singer and Rabbi Michael Skobac on YT deconstruct the idolatrous faith of you know whom. Have a great day @technicianbis5250
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@joinjen3854 "Trinitarian Christians maintain that Genesis 1:26 and Genesis 11:7 are proof-texts of an alleged tri-unity god, but this claim is erroneous. The inference that "Let us make man in our image" ((Genesis 1:26)) refers to the plurality of God is refuted by the subsequent verse, which relates the creation of man to a singular God, "And God created man in His image" ((Genesis 1:27)).
In this verse the Hebrew verb "created" appears in the singular form. If "let us make man" indicates a numerical plurality, it would be followed in the NEXT verse by, "And they created man in their image." Obviously, the plural form is used in the same way as in the divine appellation 'Elohim, to indicate the all-inclusiveness of God's attributes of authority and power, the plurality of majesty. It is customary for one in authority to speak of himself as if he were a plurality.
Hence, Absalom said to Ahithophel, "Give your counsel what we shall do" ((2 Samuel 16:20)). The context shows that he was seeking advice for himself' yet he refers to himself as "we" ((see also Ezra 4:16-19)).
God Manifesting His Humility
There is another possible reason for the use of the plural on the part of God, and that is to manifest His humility. God addresses Himself to the angels and says to them, "Let us make man in our image." It is not that He invites their help, but as a matter of modesty and courtesy, God associates them with the creation of man. This teaches us that a great man should act humbly and consult with those lower than him.
It is not unusual for God to refer to His heavenly court (angels) as "us," as we see in Isaiah 6:8, "And I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, 'Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?'" Although God often acts without assistance, He makes His intentions known to His servants. Thus, we find "Shall I conceal from Abraham that which I am doing" ((Genesis 18:17)); "He made known His ways to Moses, His doings to the children of Israel" ((Psalms 103:7)); "For the Lord God will do nothing without revealing His counsel to His servants the prophets" ((Amos 3:7)).
A misconception similar to that concerning Genesis 1:27 is held by trinitarian Christians with reference to the verse, "Come, let us go down, and there confound their language" ((Genesis 11:7)). Here, too, the confounding of the language is related in verse 9 to God alone, ". . . because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth." In this verse the Hebrew verb "did" appears in the singular form.
The Singularity of God
Also, the descent is credited in verse 5 to the Lord alone, "And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower." In this verse the Hebrew verb "came down" appears in the singular form. If a doctrine of plurality of persons is to be based on the grammatical form of words, the frequent interchanging of the singular and the plural should vitiate such an attempt as being without foundation or merit. We may safely conclude that the Bible refutes most emphatically every opinion, which deviates from the concept of an indivisible unity of God.
Chapter 45 of Isaiah, using the Tetragrammaton, unequivocally asserts that the Lord alone is the creator and ruler of all things in the universe. The six uses of 'Elohim in this chapter ((verses 3, 5, 14, 15, 18, 21)) show that the term 'Elohim is synonymous with the Tetragrammaton, and that both epithets refer to the absolute one-and-only God. The singularity of God, expressed in the first-person singular in verse 12, clearly shows who is meant by the phrase, "Let us create man in our image": "I, even I, have made the earth, and created man upon it; I, even My hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded."
As for the Messiah, of him God says, "And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even My servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. And I the Lord will be their God, and My servant David prince among them; I the Lord have spoken" ((Ezekiel 34:23-24)). The Lord alone will be worshiped as God, while the Messiah, as the servant of God, lives with the people. God and the Messiah are not and cannot be equals, for it is God alone who gives the Messiah power to rule in the capacity of His appointed servant." KEEP READING THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER
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@nahahvarietychannel3293 The One True Creator G_d gave specific details to the Hebrew prophets about when the Real Messiach comes. No One! Especially the so-called "Jesus" has fulfilled any of them yet! 1. When the Real Messiach comes, he will be a normal man from the line of David through Solomon and will sit on the throne of David and rule from there forever. *Obviously, that hasn't happened yet! 2. When the Real Messiach comes, it will be at the End of Days. * Obviously, back then was not the End of Days! 3. When the Real Messiach comes, the Temple will be rebuilt never to be destroyed again, and The Messiach will start the animal sacrifices in the Temple again. * The opposite happened back then! The very fact that the Temple isn't standing proves that the so-called "Jesus" is Not The Messiach! 4. When the Real Messiach comes, Everyone around the world (including atheist) will know that he is The Messiach! * We KNOW that the so-called "Jesus" is Not The Messiach! 5. When the Real Messiach comes, death will cease to exist. * Obviously, that hasn't happened yet either because so many people are still getting sick and dying. 6. When the Real Messiach comes, there will be World Peace and weapons of war will be rebuilt into farming implements. * We're still waiting for that one!!! 7. When the Real Messiach comes, Everyone around the world, from every language will grab the Jews and say "Now we know that we have inherited only lies and G_d has been with you Jews all along. Please take us with you!" * We're still waiting for that one, too!!! No where in the Torah/Tanach does it ever say that the Messiach will keep failing and have to come back again and again. According to Christianity, the so-called "Jesus" already came back a second time, but he still never fulfilled any of those Prophecies about the Real Messiach. So now Christians are waiting for a third coming. Christianity strikes out again!!!
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@nahahvarietychannel3293 The more YOU reject the word of GD ( which words and narratives are Tanakh), the more you cannot believe in the FAKE NEWS LIES of the new testament, which are NOT THE WORDS OF GD, rather of ordinary men. It seems your GD is Paul, whereas my GD is the GD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB. I read the gospel and it's all NONSENSE, without any substance..It's just stories invented by people who never learned HEBREW NOR understood Tanakh. Just like yourself, a gullible individual who can't read HEBREW and never studied Tanakh with Orthodox Rabbis so your views are christological and not pure. Your man idol, the dead, non union carpenter, was VOTED divine at the Council of Nicea...He fails ALL criteria ever to be messiah. Even Matthew wrote that he came to bring a sword NOT peace...what kind of a messiah is that? You are an idol worshiping, blasphemer of the ONE GD OF ISRAEL. DEUT 24:16. NO MAN DIES FOR ANOTHER MAN'S SINS; ZECH 8:23. THE GENTILE WILL GRAB AT THE GARMENT OF A JEW AND ASK TO GO WITH US BECAUSE WE HOLD THE TRUTH.. GD IS ONE ( not a trinity) Deut 6:4; READ DEUT 13:2-4. SHAME ON YOU!!!
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@nahahvarietychannel3293 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty Gd, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even forever. The zeal of the Etrnl of hosts will perform this.
ANALYSIS:
Christians see the above verses from Isaiah 9 to be speaking of Jesus, who came into the world as a child. However, after having read the above quotation, a few questions should come to mind.
When did Jesus ever run any government?
When was Jesus ever called a Wonderful Counselor, or a Mighty Gd, or an Everlasting Father, or a Prince of Peace? Jesus was never called by any of these names anywhere in the Christians’ New Testament and not at all in his own lifetime.
Christians always seem to misunderstand this quotation. This is because they do not understand Hebrew, nor do they understand names, nor do they understand Hebrew names.
First, let us understand names. In most languages, every name has a meaning. The name ‘Anthony’ means ‘priceless’ and the name ‘Alexander’ means ‘protector.’ If we were to give a child the first and middle names of Anthony Alexander, would that mean that we are saying that this child is a ‘priceless protector?’ Would we call out to them, ‘Hey, Priceless Protector, how are you?’ Of course not.
Hebrew names sometimes say something about Gd. The name Michael means ‘who is like Gd.’ The name Elihu means ‘my Gd is He,’ or ‘He is my Gd.’ The name Immanuel means ‘Gd is with us,’ just to give a few examples. If someone has the name, Elihu, (again, meaning ‘He is my Gd’) would that mean that the human being known as Elihu is Gd? These names say something about Gd, even though they are the names of ordinary human beings. A better translation to the verse in question might be:
…and his name will be called, ‘A wonderful counselor is the mighty Gd, an everlasting father is the ruler of peace.’
This means that there are really only two Hebrew names in the verse, which are given to a human being and not to a divine being, even though the names make a statement about Gd. Those names, like Anthony Alexander in our example above, would be ‘Pele Yoetz El Gibor Avi Ad Sar Shalom.’ The way it is written in the original Hebrew, the names would be hyphenated as ‘Pele-Yoetz-El-Gibor’ and ‘Avi-Ad-Sar-Shalom.’ Lengthy names like these were not uncommon in the Bible, and in Isaiah specifically. For example, in Isaiah 8:3, we find the name, ‘Maher-shalal-chash-baz,’ which means ‘the spoil speeds, the prey hastens.’
But let us suppose that this verse really did contain four names. How well would they apply to Jesus? Is this a case where at first the description of the person described in Isaiah 9:6-7 sounds like the story of Jesus, but, on closer examination, it isn’t?
‘Wonderful Counselor’
In the Christian’s New Testament we find two stories about Jesus that certainly do not describe him as a Wonderful Counselor:
Another of the disciples said to him, ‘Lord, let me first go and bury my father.’ But Jesus said to him, ‘Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their own dead.’ [Matthew 8:21]
What kind of ‘Wonderful Counselor’ would tell a man who had recently lost his beloved father not to see to his father’s funeral?
When he had said this, one of the officers standing by struck Jesus with his hand, saying, ‘Is that how you answer the high priest?’ Jesus answered him, ‘If I have spoken wrongly, bear witness to the wrong; but if I have spoken rightly, why do you strike me?’ [John 18:22-23]
Everyone is familiar with the quotation from Jesus, ‘Do not resist one who is evil, but if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.’ [Matthew 5:39] In the quotation above from John 18, Jesus does not turn his other cheek to the one who struck him, but rebukes him instead. One who says one thing but does another is called a hypocrite, and how can a hypocrite be a ‘Wonderful Counselor?’
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@nahahvarietychannel3293 ‘Wonderful Counselor’
In the Christian’s New Testament we find two stories about Jesus that certainly do not describe him as a Wonderful Counselor:
Another of the disciples said to him, ‘Lord, let me first go and bury my father.’ But Jesus said to him, ‘Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their own dead.’ [Matthew 8:21]
What kind of ‘Wonderful Counselor’ would tell a man who had recently lost his beloved father not to see to his father’s funeral?
When he had said this, one of the officers standing by struck Jesus with his hand, saying, ‘Is that how you answer the high priest?’ Jesus answered him, ‘If I have spoken wrongly, bear witness to the wrong; but if I have spoken rightly, why do you strike me?’ [John 18:22-23]
Everyone is familiar with the quotation from Jesus, ‘Do not resist one who is evil, but if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.’ [Matthew 5:39] In the quotation above from John 18, Jesus does not turn his other cheek to the one who struck him, but rebukes him instead. One who says one thing but does another is called a hypocrite, and how can a hypocrite be a ‘Wonderful Counselor?’
‘Mighty Gd.’
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, ‘Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?’ that is, ‘My Gd, My Gd, why hast thou forsaken me?’ [Matthew 27:46]
If Jesus were the ‘Mighty Gd,’ why would he have to call upon another as Gd in order to save him? How can Gd forsake himself? This also denies the very idea of a trinity, and shows how Jesus does not fit the description of the Isaiah 9 quotation.
And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, Gd: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. [Matthew 19:16-17]
In the above verses, Jesus distinguishes between himself and Gd. How could he have been the ‘Mighty Gd,’ if he himself made a distinction between himself and Gd? If Jesus knew that only Gd is good, and that he should not be called good, then Jesus knew that Jesus was not Gd.
‘Everlasting Father’
In the trinity, Jesus is the son, and not the Father. He cannot be both at the same time. As a matter of fact, Jesus himself showed that he was not the Father, and claimed not to have the same will, or the same knowledge as the Father.
And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, ‘My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.’ [Matthew 26:39]
Jesus calls the One to whom he prayed his Father, so how can Jesus be ‘the Everlasting Father,’ if he called another his Father? How could Jesus be the Father if the will of Jesus is not the same as the will of the Father? This denies the very idea of the trinity.
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. [Mark 13:32]
In the above verse, Jesus claims there is something that he does not know, but that only the Father knows. So how can Jesus, ‘the son,’ also be the Father if their knowledge is not the same?
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Gd, and your Gd. [John 20:17]
How can the Father ascend to Himself? In the above verse, Jesus not only distinguishes between himself and his Father, but he also makes it sound as though the relationship that he has with Gd, ‘The Father,’ is exactly the same relationship that all people have with Gd, who is, in fact, the Father of all.
‘Prince of Peace’
First of all, this is a mistranslation. The words in the original Hebrew are, ‘sar shalom.’ The word ‘sar’ does not mean ‘prince,’ it means ‘ruler.’ Now, one might say that a ‘prince’ is a ‘ruler.’ However, the reason why the Christians choose the word ‘prince’ instead of the word ‘ruler’ in Christian translations is that the word ‘prince’ makes one think that the original verse is speaking of a ‘son of the king,’ which in the Christian mind alludes to Jesus whom they believe to have been the son of Gd, the King. However, the word is ‘ruler,’ and not ‘prince.’ ‘Prince’ in Hebrew is ‘nasee’ and not ‘sar.’ The Christian translators intentionally chose the English word ‘prince’ to lead the reader into thinking about Jesus.
In the Christian’s New Testament, we also find a quotation which certainly does not show Jesus to have been a ‘ruler’ or even a ‘prince of peace.’
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. [Matthew 10:34-36]
How could anyone who said such a thing be considered a prince or ruler of peace? How could anyone who said such a thing have been the Messiah? We know that the true Messiah will bring an everlasting peace and, along with Elijah the Prophet, will bring families closer to each other and not further apart (see Isaiah 2:4, Micah 4:1-4, and Malachi 4:5).
I have already stated that Christians rarely include verse 7 when they quote Isaiah chapter 9. The reason is that in verse 7 it states, ‘Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end.’ Perhaps they do not quote verse 7 because Jesus never brought peace to the world, nor did he ever intend to, as the above quotation from Matthew 10:34-36 shows.
Jesus was also a violent man, and neither a ‘Prince of Peace,’ nor even a ‘Ruler of Peace.’ There are other verses in the Christian’s New Testament that indicate this. Here are two more:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. [Luke 19:27]
The verse above comes at the end of a parable that Jesus told, of a man that leaves his land to go to be anointed as the King. When he comes back to his land, he says the above verse. Every single Christian commentator claims that Jesus was referring to himself as the man who left his land to be anointed King, and so in his own parable, Jesus is saying the above, asking that those who do not wish to have him reign over them be murdered in front of him.
In the verse, below, Jesus tells his followers to go and buy a sword.
And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. [Luke 22:35]
We have shown from quotations from the Christian’s New Testament that Jesus was not a ‘Wonderful Counselor, Jesus was not a ‘Mighty Gd,’ Jesus was not an ‘Everlasting Father,’ nor was Jesus a ‘Prince of Peace’ or even a ‘Ruler of Peace,’ in spite of how Christians wish to interpret the original verses from Isaiah 9:6-7.
So, according to the Jewish interpretation, who is Isaiah 9:6-7 speaking about?
According to Judaism, the answer is in the names chosen. The name ‘Hezekiah’ which in Hebrew is ‘Chizkiyah’ comes from the words ‘chazak’ and ‘Ya.’ ‘Chazak’ means ‘strong’ or ‘mighty’ and ‘Ya’ is the shortened name for Gd used as a suffix. Many might recognize the Ya’ in the word, ‘halleluyah’ which means,’praise Gd.’ Judaism believes that Isaiah 9:6-7 refers to Hezekiah, who reigned for almost 30 years. The name Hezekiah, Chizkiyah, is the same name in meaning, as one finds in the verses from Isaiah 9:6-7, a ‘Mighty Gd.’
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@nahahvarietychannel3293 Isaiah is known for the method by which he presents many of his messages through the use of prophetic names (Isaiah 7:3, 14; 8:3). In the verse under study, the prophet expounds his message by formulating a prophetic name for Hezekiah. The words of this name form a sentence expressive of God's greatness, which will become manifest in the benefits to be bestowed upon the future king in his lifetime. Thus, the name, though borne by the king, serves, in reality, as a testimonial to God. Hezekiah is called "a wonderful counselor" because this name is a sign, which foretells God's design for him.
The Lord of hosts has sworn, saying: "As I have thought, so shall it be, and as I have purposed, so shall it stand, that I will break Asshur in My land, and upon My mountains trample him under foot; then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulder." This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth; and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations. For the Lord of hosts has purposed, and who will annul it? And His hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back? (Isaiah 14:24-27)
Be not afraid of the words that you have heard, with which the servants of the king of Assyria have blasphemed Me. Behold, I will put a spirit in him, and he shall hear a rumor, and shall return to his own land; and I will cause him to fall by the sword in his own land. (Isaiah 37:6-7)
Hezekiah is called "the mighty God" because this name is a sign that foretells God's defense of Jerusalem through the miraculous sudden mass death of Sennacherib's army.
Therefore thus says the Lord concerning the king of Assyria: He shall not come to this city, nor shoot an arrow there, neither shall he come before it with shield, nor cast a mound against it. By the way that he came, by the same shall he return, and he shall not come to this city, says the Lord. For I will defend this city to save it, for My own sake, and for My servant David's sake. (Isaiah 37:33-35)
Hezekiah is called "the everlasting Father" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God will add years to his life. "Go, and say to Hezekiah: Thus says the Lord, the God of David your father: I have heard your prayer, I have seen your tears; behold, I will add to your days fifteen years" (Isaiah 38:5). Hezekiah is called "the ruler of peace" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God would be merciful to him. Punishment for lack of faith in the Almighty will be deferred and peace granted during the last years of his rule. "Then said Hezekiah to Isaiah: 'Good is the word of the Lord which you have spoken.' He said moreover: 'If but there shall be peace and security in my days'" (Isaiah 39:8). The fulfillment of the above-stated declarations is foretold in Isaiah 9:6, when, after the Assyrian defeat, Hezekiah's glory increased and peace reigned for the rest of his life (2 Chronicles 32:23). Archaeologists have found that there was a sudden expansion of Judean settlements in the years following the fall of the northern kingdom. This indicates that many refugees fled south, thus giving added significance to the statement "that the government may be increased." Hezekiah's kingdom is declared to be forever, for through his efforts to cleanse the Temple ritual of idolatry, even though apostasy followed under his son Menasseh, the Davidic dynasty was once more confirmed as the only true kingly rule that God would accept over his people "from henceforth and forever." The greatness of Hezekiah lies in his setting the stage for Israel's future. Hezekiah was a true reformer. He cleansed religious worship of foreign influence, purged the palace and the Temple of images and pagan altars, and reestablished pure monotheistic religion. In the long run Hezekiah's achievements would outlive him, leaving an everlasting, indelible impact on the history of his people. Thus, God, through Isaiah, bestows upon Hezekiah this name which honors the king by proclaiming the great things God will do for him, and, through him, for the people of Israel.
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@TheComingGoldenAgeOfChrist Really?? Well, if that is true, then please show where , in Talmud, in HEBREW your statement is made, instead of making a blanket comment, without proof. Anyway, your man idol, the non union carpenter, is not messiah, not "son of GD" and not divine; nor your "virgin mary"...and guess what? YOU can't prove otherwise.
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@plutoarchivema He sent no one...Nowhere in Tanakh is jesus mentioned or alluded to as a son or messiah. NOWHERE!!
Deuteronomy 13:2-6: ‘If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for HASHEM, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love HASHEM, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall follow HASHEM, your God, fear Him, keep His commandments, heed His voice, worship Him, and cleave to Him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream shall be put to death *(Deuteronomy 13 and 18)*; because he spoke falsehood about HASHEM, your God Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and Who redeemed you from the house of bondage, to lead you astray from the way in which HASHEM, your God, commanded you to go; so shall you clear away the evil from your midst.’
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@brendagonzales4532 Maimonides ( the Rambam), Nachmonides ( The Ramban), Rabbi Isaac Luria ( The Arizal), The Bal Shem Tov, The Vilna Gaon, Ibn Ezra etc etc and other Rabbinic scholars and masters weren't concerned with the carpenter...In fact, at Mt Sinai, he wasn't even mentioned or alluded to. It was corruptor, Paul, who pushed forth false narratives onto the gullible masses.. so, no hell to worry about.
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@thejaxsonshow2015 except for one thing...the New Testament is in contradiction 1,000% with Tanach...it's not valid, in terms of Judaic belief. There is no new covenant between G-D and the Jewish people...in fact, in Tanach, there is no "to be continued" after it was written and completed. I previously indicated that at Mt Sinai when G-D gave the Law to Moses , as witnessed by 3 millions Israelites, there was NO MENTION or allusion to a jesus or to him being a messiah.This was an invention by Paul and his cohorts...they took it upon themselves, as supported by VOTE at the Council of Nicea, that the carpenter was a deity...He is NOT A DEITY OR to be worshipped...that's blasphemy and idolatry...abhorred by G-D. You have been lied to by your churches over the centuries...jesus did not fulfill any requirements to be a messiah...Watch Rabbi Michael Skobac and/or Rabbi Tovia Singer, here on youtube videos , deconstruct the false faith of xtianity. Have a good day.. p.s. Deut 24:16. No man dies for another man's sins.
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@evanflowforever6615 A couple of great, great books you may have read, but if not, you must. Caesar's Messiah by Joseph Atwill and my personal favorite, Creating Christ: How Roman Emperors Invented Christianity by James Valliant and Warren Fahy. It is so abundantly clear to me that Christianity is a completely made up religion and that nothing contained therein actually happened. There are so many contradictions, discrepancies, anachronisms, plagiarisms, outright lies, and the purposeful misuse and misrepresentation of Tanakh that if Christians were actually taught the truth instead of the same BS every Sunday, Churches would be completely empty and the religion would cease to exist.
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@jenniferwise8515 Crock of BS LIES..your dead, non union carpenter isn't messiah...he never claimed to be one and that concept was invented by liar-faker Paul and his band of misfits in the FAKE NEWS book=NT.. Really? He fulfilled all OT prophecies??? Get a grip: The claim that jesus was the Messiah depicted in Tanach is something so easy to check & see if it is true or not, Did jesus build the 3rd final temple as the Messiah of Tanach does (Isaiah 2:2-3, 56:6-7, 60:7, 66:20; Ezekiel 37:26–27; Malachi 3:4; Zech. 14:20-21)?? No it was standing while he was alive. Did jesus bring all of the Jews back to Israel from the world wide exiles (Deut. 30:3; Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 30:3, 32:37; Ezekiel 11:17, 36:24)?? No, they were in Israel at the time and were exiled afterwards. Did jesus usher in a Utopian world where there is no longer any more wars as the Mashiach of Tanach does (Micah 4:1-4; Hoseah 2:20; Isaiah 2:1-4, 60:18)?? No, the opposite is true, more blood has been spilled in the name of jesus than any other man in history. Did jesus reign as king or cause the entire Jewish Nation to fully embrace the Laws of Moses the way Messiah of Tanach does (Ezekiel 37:24; Deut. 30:8,10; Jeremiah 31:32; Ezekiel 11:19-20, 36:26-27)?? Nope, he caused the exact opposite. Messiah of tanach emerges in a time where there's a universal knowledge of God (Zechariah 3:9, 8:23,14:9,16; Isaiah 45:23, 66:23; Jeremiah 31:33; Ezekiel 38:23; Psalm 86:9; Zeph. 3:9) did this occur with jesus? No, and because of his unchecked ego, idolatry now spreads throughout the world. Was jesus a paternal descendant of David and Solomon the way Mashiach of Tanach is (2 Samuel 7:12-14; 1 Chronicles 22:9-10, Isaiah 11:1, and PS. Genealogy in the Bible is only passed down from father to son, Numbers 1:1-18)? No. Take all this, + all the corrupt & deceptive fulfilment citations & misquotes of the actual hebrew tanach that's in the christian bibles + all the lies and antisemetic propaganda in them...plus the fact that the job of the Mashiach of tanach has nothing to do with dying for anyone's sins, nor does he have any 2nd coming, his only coming in tanach is only at the end of days....its really very very very simple and clear..
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Della Cheng "and the sign or miracle in which they spoke happens and they say to you "lets go after foreign worships in which you have not known of and worship", do not listen to them, for 'ה your God is testing you to see if you love Him with all your heart and soul, after 'ה your God shall you go, it is Him that you shall fear, it is His commandments that you shall keep, His voice shall you listen to, Him shall you worship, and to Him shall you cling, and that person shall be killed, because they spoke falsehood against 'ה your God TO MAKE YOU STRAY FROM THE PATH THAT 'ה your God commanded you to go in and you shall remove that evil from your midst." Deuteronomy 13.
"When your fellow tells you in secret saying "let us go and serve foreign worship WHICH YOU NOR YOUR FOREFATHERS HAVE KNOWN OF ...do not desire them, don't listen to them, do not have pity on them, do not have mercy on them and do not try to cover for them, for you shall surely cause him to be killed... because they seeked to lead you astray from 'ה your God " Deuteronomy 13.
"The word that came to Jeremiah concerning all the Jews dwelling in Egypt...because of their evil, which they did to provoke Me... to worship foreign worships, which they did not know of, NOT THEM, NOT YOU, NOR YOUR FOREFATHERS ." Jeremiah 44:1-5.
"...worships they didn't know of, NEWLY INVENTED gods that YOUR FOREFATHERS DID NOT FEAR ". Anything that is newly invented, what our forefathers didn't experience, worship, know, or fear, is IDOLATRY and against the 1st two commandments where all Jews heard God command that He alone is our God and to not have any other god but Him or to ever leave the path He commanded us in going. Case closed.
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@camidiaz6895 a. The Messiah According To Judaism
One of the basic premises upon which Christianity rests is that Jesus was the Messiah predicted in the Jewish Bible. Judaism has always rejected this belief. Since the goal of “Hebrew Christian” missionaries is to convince Jews that Jesus did in fact fulfill the requirements of the promised Messiah, it is necessary to examine the Jewish understanding of the Messiah to understand why such claims are simply not true.
b. The Hebrew Roots Of The Word “Messiah”
The Hebrew word for “Messiah” is “Moshiach – .” The literal and proper translation of this word is “anointed,” which refers to a ritual of anointing and consecrating someone or something with oil (I Samuel 10:1-2). It is used throughout the Jewish Bible in reference to a wide variety of individuals and/or objects; for example, a Jewish king (I Kings 1:39), Jewish priests (Leviticus 4:3), prophets (Isaiah 61:1), the Jewish Temple and its utensils (Exodus 40:9-11), unleavened bread (Numbers 6:15), and a non-Jewish king (Cyrus king of Persia, Isaiah 45:1). *
* Some form of the Hebrew word moshiach is used over 150 times in the Jewish bible. Christians consistently translate this word as anointed, except in the ninth chapter of Daniel. In this chapter missionaries deviate from this and other correct translations in an attempt to prove that the messiah came before the destruction of the Second Temple. Rather than speaking about “the messiah,” when read in context and with a correct translation this chapter clearly speaks about two different “anointed” subjects hundreds of years apart. a) The first is the anointed King Cyrus (Isaiah 45:1) who granted permission to the Jews to return and build the Second Temple 52 years “7 weeks of years” after the destruction of the First Temple. b) The second is the anointed priesthood (Leviticus 4:3) that was terminated 434 years “62 weeks of years” later.
c. The Criteria To Be Fulfilled By The Jewish Messiah
In accurate translations of Jewish Scriptures, the word “Moshiach” is never translated as “Messiah,” but as “anointed.” Nevertheless, Judaism has always maintained a fundamental belief in a Messianic figure. Since the concept of a Messiah is one that was given by God to the Jews, Jewish tradition is best qualified to describe and recognize the expected Messiah. This tradition has its foundation in numerous biblical references, many of which are cited below. Judaism understands the Messiah to be a human being (with no connotation of deity or divinity) who will bring about certain changes in the world and who must fulfill certain specific criteria before being acknowledged as the Messiah.
These specific criteria are as follows:
1) He must be Jewish. (Deuteronomy. 17:15, Numbers 24:17)
2) He must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a
direct male descendent of King David (I Chronicles 17:11, Psalms 89:29-38, Jeremiah 33:17, II Samuel 7:12-16) and King Solomon.
(I Chronicles 22:10, II Chronicles 7:18)
3) He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel. (Isaiah 27:12-13, Isaiah 11:12)
4) He must rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. (Micah 4:1)
5) He must bring world peace. (Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:6, Micah 4:3)
6) He must influence the entire world to acknowledge and serve one G-d. (Isaiah 11:9, Isaiah 40:5, Zephaniah 3:9)
All of these criteria for the Messiah are best stated in chapter 37:24-28 of the book of Ezekiel:
“and My servant David will be a king over them, and they will all have one shepherd, and they will walk in My ordinances, and keep My statutes, and observe them, and they shall live on the land that I gave to Jacob My servant…and I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their G-d and they will be My people. And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever.” (Ezekiel 37:24-28)
Emphasis: If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah!
d. Why Jesus Could Not Have Been The Jewish Messiah
A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that, although Jesus was Jewish, he did not fulfill any of the other criteria. An examination of the contradictory accounts of Jesus’ genealogy demonstrates a number of difficulties with the fulfillment of the second criterion. Specifically, the New Testament claims that Jesus did not have a physical father. The Jewish Scriptures, however, clearly states that a person’s genealogy and tribal membership is transmitted exclusively through one’s physical father (Numbers 1:18, Jeremiah 33:17). Therefore, Jesus cannot possibly be a descendent of the tribe of Judah nor of King David and King Solomon.
There are even further problems with any attempts to use the Jewish Scriptures to prove Jesus’ genealogy through Joseph, the husband of Mary (Jesus’ mother).
For the New Testament claims that Joseph was a descendent of King Jeconiah, who in the Hebrew Bible was cursed to never have a descendent “sitting on the throne of David and ruling any more in Judah” (Jeremiah 22:30). Joseph’s genealogy, even if it were transmittable to Jesus, would only serve to further disqualify Jesus as the Messiah.
Finally, there is the problem of the contradictory accounts of Jesus’ genealogy in Matthew, Chapter 1 and Luke, Chapter 3. The common Christian explanation of this contradiction claims that Luke’s genealogy is that of Jesus’ mother, Mary. However, this is unfounded, even according to the Greek original. In addition, it has already been established that genealogy is transferred solely through the father, making this attempted explanation completely irrelevant. Even if one could trace one’s genealogy through one’s mother, there would be the additional problem in that Luke 3:31 lists Mary as a descendent of David through Nathan, Solomon’s brother, and not through Solomon himself as is prophesied in I Chronicles 22:10 of the Jewish Bible.
The third, fourth, fifth and sixth criteria have obviously not been fulfilled, either during Jesus’ time or since. Any Christian claims that these final criteria will be fulfilled in a “Second Coming” are irrelevant because the concept of the Messiah coming twice has no scriptural basis.
To summarize, we cannot know that someone is the Messiah until he fulfills all of the above criteria.
The Christian understanding of the Messiah and Jesus differs greatly from the Jewish biblical view. These differences developed as a result of the Church’s influence during the time of the Emperor Constantine* and the Council of Nicaea that issued the Nicene Creed in 325 CE.
Emphasis: The Messiah was never meant to be an object of worship. His primary mission and accomplishment is to bring world peace and to fill the world with the knowledge and awareness of one G-d.
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@camidiaz6895 YOU ARE BEING TESTED TO LOVE THE ONE ETERNAL G-D AND NONE ELSE!!
Deuteronomy 13:2-6: ‘If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for HASHEM, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love HASHEM, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall follow HASHEM, your God, fear Him, keep His commandments, heed His voice, worship Him, and cleave to Him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream shall be put to death *(Deuteronomy 13 and 18)*; because he spoke falsehood about HASHEM, your God Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and Who redeemed you from the house of bondage, to lead you astray from the way in which HASHEM, your God, commanded you to go; so shall you clear away the evil from your midst.’
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Such Nonsense you write..The carpenter is NOT divine; in fact , at the Council of Nicea, he was VOTED so, that's all. When GD gave the Torah to Moses at Mt Sinai, as witnessed by 3,000,000 Israelites, there was NO MENTION of a "son of Gd', jesus as messiah or his divinity. Those ideas were invented by men and are NOT THE WORDS OF GD. ISAIAH 43:10-11, GD IS THE ONLY SAVIOR ( and jesus isn't part of it). No man dies for another mans sins Deut 24:16; Rabbi Tovia Singer , here on YT, deconstructs your belief system. Repent of idolatry and blasphemy against the ONE GD of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. At end of days, you'll be clinging to the garment of Jew and want to go with us because we hold the truth..That's right, one day you'll become a Jew. @MsMaremma
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@user-zo4iz2nv5u Criteria for Messiah
First of all, he must be Jewish - "...you may appoint a king over you, whom the L-rd your G-d shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you." (Deuteronomy 17:15)
He must be a member of the tribe of Judah - "The staff shall not depart from Judah, nor the sceptre from between his feet..." (Genesis 49:10)
He must be a direct male descendant of King David and King Solomon, his son - "And when your days (David) are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall issue from your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for my name, and I will make firm the throne of his kingdom forever..." (2 Samuel 7:12 - 13)
He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel -"And he shall set up a banner for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." (Isaiah 11:12)
He must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem - "...and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and my tabernacle shall be with them.." (Ezekiel 37:26 - 27)
He will rule at a time of world-wide peace - "...they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore." (Micah 4:3)
He will rule at a time when the Jewish people will observe G-d's commandments - "My servant David shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall follow My ordinances and be careful to observe My statutes." (Ezekiel 37:24)
He will rule at a time when all people will come to acknowledge and serve one G-d - "And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, says the L-rd" (Isaiah 66:23)
All of these criteria are best stated in the book of Ezekiel Chapter 37 verses 24-28:
And David my servant shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. they shall also follow My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Yaakov my servant, in which your fathers have dwelt and they shall dwell there, they and their children, and their children's children forever; and my servant David shall be their prince forever. Moreover, I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant with them, which I will give them; and I will multiply them and I will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore. And my tabernacle shall be with them: and I will be their G-d and they will be my people. Then the nations shall know that I am the L-rd who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary will be in the midst of them forevermore.
If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah." A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that to date, no one has fulfilled every condition.
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@user-zo4iz2nv5u None of the prophecies in the Jewish bible about the messiah who inherits the tribe of David applies to Jesus because Jesus had no biological father.
The only way a Jewish son can inherit a tribe in Judaism today and 2000 years ago in the time of Jesus and 3300 years ago in the time of Moses is through your biological father.
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Jesus is Jewish because his mother is Jewish however Jesus inherits no tribe because Jesus has no biological father which is the only way tribe is inherited by a Jewish son.
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A Jewish son cannot choose a tribe and a Jewish son cannot change their tribe.
A Jewish woman who marries a non Jew will produce a Jewish son who inherits no tribe.
A Jewish woman who has a virgin birth will produce a Jewish son who inherits no tribe.
A Jewish woman who has a virgin birth and a non biological Jewish father will produce a Jewish son who inherits no tribe.
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It is because Jesus inherits no tribe that Jews today know that the claim that Jews 2000 years ago said Jesus was from the house of David was written by people who did not know that a son without a biological father inherits no tribe in Judaism.
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Today most Christians do not know that a Jewish son from a virgin birth meaning without a biological father inherits no tribe in Judaism.
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All prophecies about the messiah from David mentioned in the Jewish bible do not apply to anyone who did not have a biological father because they inherit no tribe in Judaism.
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All prophecies about the messiah from David mentioned in the Jewish bible do not apply to anyone who did not descend from a biological father through the messiah king David and through the messiah king Solomon because it is a promise which God said God will not change.
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Deuteronomy 13:7 If your brethren (who is), the son of your mother (meaning a Jew because it is through the mother that the religion of Judaism is passed on), …”
Note 1. The religion of Judaism is passed from the mother to her biological children.
Note 2. The religion of Judaism is not passed on from the male to his biological children.
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Numbers 1:18 And they assembled all the congregation together on the first day of the second month, and they declared their pedigrees after their families (to trace their genealogy to a tribe), by their fathers' houses, according to the number of names, each one from twenty years old and upward.
Note 1. Jesus came from a virgin birth meaning Jesus had no biological father meaning Jesus was born as a Jew without tribal inheritance because he had no biological father meaning Jesus has no biological connection to King David.
Note 2. In Judaism a tribe is inherited only through the biological father and not through a mother like Mary or through a non-biological adopted father like Joseph.
Note 3. In Judaism a tribe cannot be chosen but is inherited through the biological father.
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Psalm 132:11 The Lord (God) has sworn to David in truth, from which He (God) will never turn back (meaning God will never change His mind in the matter of the following decree), "Of the fruit of your body (meaning from the biological descendants of King David) I (God) shall seat on your (King David’s) throne.
Note 1. The promise of God which will never be cancelled is that from the messiah (anointed) King David Dawud will descend a king on the throne of David biologically from “the fruit of your body.”
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1 Kings 9:5 then I will establish your (King Solomon’s) throne over Israel for ever; as I promised to David your father, saying: There shall not fail to be a successor (who is a biological descendant of messiah King David through messiah King Solomon) on the throne of Israel.
Note 1. Forever means that there will always be biological descendants of messiah King David through messiah King Solomon who can be the messiah who is promised in Tanakh.
Note 2. The seed of David will descend biologically through Solomon forever meaning the messiah described in Tanakh must have a biological father because inheritance of the House of David is through your biological father.
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2 Samuel 7:12 When your (David Dawud) days are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I (God) will set up your seed after you, that shall proceed out of your body, and I will establish his kingdom.
Note 1. The biological seed God set up after messiah David is messiah Solomon meaning the throne of David is through the children who descend from messiah David and the seed where God said “I (God) will set up your seed after you” which is messiah Solomon because Solomon is the seed after David who God set up as the seed after David on the throne of David as promised in 2 Samuel 7:12-.2 Samuel 7:13.
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2 Samuel 7:13 He (Solomon Sulaiman) shall build a house (the First Temple) for My name, and I will establish the throne of his (Solomon’s Sulaiman’s) kingdom for ever.
Note 1. The promise that will never be cancelled in Psalm 132:11-132:12 given to the biological descendants of messiah (anointed) King David Dawud that is passed to his seed that God set up in 2 Samuel 7:12 is forever in 2 Samuel 7:13 meaning biological descendants to the throne of messiah David Dawud through messiah Solomon Sulaiman which God set up is a promise that will be honoured by God forever meaning God will never change this promise.
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2 Samuel 7:14 I (God) will be to him (the messiah anointed King Solomon Sulaiman) for a father, and he (the messiah anointed King Solomon Sulaiman) shall be to Me (God) for a son; if he (the messiah anointed King Solomon Sulaiman) commit wrong doing, I (God) will punish him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men;
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Note 1. The messiah anointed King Solomon Sulaiman is the son of God means the servant of God.
Note 2. God will be his father and the messiah anointed King Solomon Sulaiman will be His son meaning God's servant.
Note 3. If the messiah does wrong then God will punish him like a father punishes his son.
Note 4. The messiah anointed King David Dawud is the son of God means the servant of God.
Note 5. God will be his father and the messiah anointed King David Dawud will be His son meaning God's servant.
Note 6. If the messiah does wrong then God will punish him like a father punishes his son.
Note 7. Every messiah is the son of God meaning the servant of God.
Note 8. God will be his father and the messiah will be His son meaning God's servant.
Note 9. If the messiah does wrong then God will punish him like a father punishes his son.
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@petervella Excuse me, amigo, but it's YOU who doesn't believe in Torah and also don't know it very well having commented the way you did. Nowhere in Torah /Tanakh is jesus mentioned EXPLICITLY by name or alluded to as being "son of GD' , messiah or divine...NOWHERE! Only in the new testament writings , which are diametrically opposed to Tankah, is he deified. Rabbinic scholars , past and present, including Maimonides ( Rambam), Nachmonides ( Ramban), Rashi, Rabbi Isaac Luria ( Arizal) , Vilna Gaon, Bal Shem Tov and myriads of Kabbalist masters, NEVER EVER conceded the dead carpenter as messiah, which equates to idolatry and blasphemy of the ONE ETERNAL GD, because there is NONE ELSE. Deut 4:39
Deuteronomy 13:2-6: ‘If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for HASHEM, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love HASHEM, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall follow HASHEM, your God, fear Him, keep His commandments, heed His voice, worship Him, and cleave to Him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream shall be put to death *(Deuteronomy 13 and 18)*; because he spoke falsehood about HASHEM, your God Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and Who redeemed you from the house of bondage, to lead you astray from the way in which HASHEM, your God, commanded you to go; so shall you clear away the evil from your midst.’
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@ocean77359 Deuteronomy 13:2-6: ‘If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for HASHEM, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love HASHEM, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall follow HASHEM, your God, fear Him, keep His commandments, heed His voice, worship Him, and cleave to Him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream shall be put to death *(Deuteronomy 13 and 18)*; because he spoke falsehood about HASHEM, your God Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and Who redeemed you from the house of bondage, to lead you astray from the way in which HASHEM, your God, commanded you to go; so shall you clear away the evil from your midst.’
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@ocean77359 CHRISTIANITY IS THE LAST BEAST!
The Messiah of the Bible is a mortal man of flesh and blood, a direct son/seed/shoot of King David from his very body/seed as Gd promised David, son after son, from the Tribe of Judah, of the House of David who Isaiah tells comes at the END OF THE DAYS, and his teachings bring the World to a UTOPIA where all of MANKIND WORSHIPS ONLY THE CREATOR, where Israel the Jews are United, Restored and Redeemed and they take their place as LEADERS OF THE NATIONS, where PEACE REIGNS AND WAR IS NO MORE!
However the False Teachings of your Jesus/cult of Christianity brought MORE PAGAN IDOLATRY TO MANKIND of himself, a trio of false deities, his own mother, other dead people, Angels, Paintings, Statues of Wood and Stone, a dirty painted sheet, crackers and wooden sticks, all of which are ABOMINATIONS TO THE CREATOR WHO COMMANDED THAT HE ALONE IS TO BE WORSHIPED!
Just as the False Teachings of Jesus/cult of Christianity brought 1700+ years of the demented Devotees of Jesus over and over and over again BURNING JEWS ALIVE FOR NOT ABANDONING GD AND HIS HOLY ETERNAL TORAH, INFLICTING PERSECUTION, OPPRESSION AND SLAUGHTER UPON GD'S SON/SERVANT ISRAEL THE JEWS becoming their LONGEST enduring and most DEADLIEST of all their OPPRESSORS, who alone to a T, fits the description of the morphing LAST BEAST, ENEMY OF GD AND HIS SON/SERVANT ISRAEL THE JEWS!
And as for WORLD PEACE your Jesus said that he did NOT COME TO BRING PEACE BUT DIVISION TO THE FAMILY, TO SET IT AT ODDS ONE WITH THE OTHER, the very reason why Gd sends Elijah, to come and UNDO ALL THE DIVISION IN THE FAMILY FOSTERED BY FALSE TEACHERS, lest HE smite the Earth with utter destruction.
As this Hedonistic, Pagan Filled World of DIVISION, CHAOS, MAYHEM AND ONE BLOODY WAR AFTER ANOTHER TESTIFIES that neither Elijah nor Messiah have yet come, so far only False Teachers whose lies have brought us to this sorry state that reflects the days of Noah have show up.
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OUR IMAGE explanation:
" The biblical commentator Rashi (Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki, 1040-1105) asks the same question in his commentary to the verse (Genesis 1:26). Here is his explanation which is based on Midrashic sources:
"Although [the angels] did not assist Him in His creation, and there is an opportunity for the heretics to rebel, to misconstrue the plural as a basis for their heresies, Scripture did not hesitate to teach proper conduct and the trait of humility, that a great person should consult with and receive permission from a smaller one. Had it been written: "I shall make man," we would not have learned that He was speaking with His tribunal, but to Himself.
And the refutation to the heretics is written alongside it, in the following verse: "And G‑d created (וַיִּבְרָא)," and it does not say, "and they created (וַיִּבְרְאוּ)."
G‑d was teaching us a great lesson in proper decision-making protocol. He did this at the risk of people misconstruing the verse to mean that He had help.
Alternatively, you may like what Nachmanides (Rabbi Moshe ben Nachman, 1195-1270) suggests. He says that G‑d was referring to the earth from which man was actually formed. As we see in the next chapter (v. 7), "And the L-rd G‑d formed man of dust from the ground, and He breathed into his nostrils the soul of life, and man became a living soul."
Just to make things interesting, let me throw in another interpretation. Ibn Ezra (Rabbi Abraham ben Meir ibn Ezra (1089?-1164) opines that G‑d wasn't referring to anybody, rather he was employing majestic plural, pluralis majestatis.@cabuco2006
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"Trinitarian Christians maintain that Genesis 1:26 and Genesis 11:7 are proof-texts of an alleged tri-unity god, but this claim is erroneous. The inference that "Let us make man in our image" ((Genesis 1:26)) refers to the plurality of God is refuted by the subsequent verse, which relates the creation of man to a singular God, "And God created man in His image" ((Genesis 1:27)).
In this verse the Hebrew verb "created" appears in the singular form. If "let us make man" indicates a numerical plurality, it would be followed in the NEXT verse by, "And they created man in their image." Obviously, the plural form is used in the same way as in the divine appellation 'Elohim, to indicate the all-inclusiveness of God's attributes of authority and power, the plurality of majesty. It is customary for one in authority to speak of himself as if he were a plurality.
Hence, Absalom said to Ahithophel, "Give your counsel what we shall do" ((2 Samuel 16:20)). The context shows that he was seeking advice for himself' yet he refers to himself as "we" ((see also Ezra 4:16-19)).
God Manifesting His Humility
There is another possible reason for the use of the plural on the part of God, and that is to manifest His humility. God addresses Himself to the angels and says to them, "Let us make man in our image." It is not that He invites their help, but as a matter of modesty and courtesy, God associates them with the creation of man. This teaches us that a great man should act humbly and consult with those lower than him.
It is not unusual for God to refer to His heavenly court (angels) as "us," as we see in Isaiah 6:8, "And I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, 'Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?'" Although God often acts without assistance, He makes His intentions known to His servants. Thus, we find "Shall I conceal from Abraham that which I am doing" ((Genesis 18:17)); "He made known His ways to Moses, His doings to the children of Israel" ((Psalms 103:7)); "For the Lord God will do nothing without revealing His counsel to His servants the prophets" ((Amos 3:7)).
A misconception similar to that concerning Genesis 1:27 is held by trinitarian Christians with reference to the verse, "Come, let us go down, and there confound their language" ((Genesis 11:7)). Here, too, the confounding of the language is related in verse 9 to God alone, ". . . because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth." In this verse the Hebrew verb "did" appears in the singular form.
The Singularity of God
Also, the descent is credited in verse 5 to the Lord alone, "And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower." In this verse the Hebrew verb "came down" appears in the singular form. If a doctrine of plurality of persons is to be based on the grammatical form of words, the frequent interchanging of the singular and the plural should vitiate such an attempt as being without foundation or merit. We may safely conclude that the Bible refutes most emphatically every opinion, which deviates from the concept of an indivisible unity of God.
Chapter 45 of Isaiah, using the Tetragrammaton, unequivocally asserts that the Lord alone is the creator and ruler of all things in the universe. The six uses of 'Elohim in this chapter ((verses 3, 5, 14, 15, 18, 21)) show that the term 'Elohim is synonymous with the Tetragrammaton, and that both epithets refer to the absolute one-and-only God. The singularity of God, expressed in the first-person singular in verse 12, clearly shows who is meant by the phrase, "Let us create man in our image": "I, even I, have made the earth, and created man upon it; I, even My hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded."
As for the Messiah, of him God says, "And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even My servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. And I the Lord will be their God, and My servant David prince among them; I the Lord have spoken" ((Ezekiel 34:23-24)). The Lord alone will be worshiped as God, while the Messiah, as the servant of God, lives with the people. God and the Messiah are not and cannot be equals, for it is God alone who gives the Messiah power to rule in the capacity of His appointed servant".@cabuco2006
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Criteria for Messiah:
"First of all, he must be Jewish - "...you may appoint a king over you, whom the L-rd your G-d shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you." (Deuteronomy 17:15)
He must be a member of the tribe of Judah - "The staff shall not depart from Judah, nor the sceptre from between his feet..." (Genesis 49:10)
He must be a direct male descendant of King David and King Solomon, his son - "And when your days (David) are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall issue from your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for my name, and I will make firm the throne of his kingdom forever..." (2 Samuel 7:12 - 13)
He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel -"And he shall set up a banner for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." (Isaiah 11:12)
He must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem - "...and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and my tabernacle shall be with them.." (Ezekiel 37:26 - 27)
He will rule at a time of world-wide peace - "...they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore." (Micah 4:3)
He will rule at a time when the Jewish people will observe G-d's commandments - "My servant David shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall follow My ordinances and be careful to observe My statutes." (Ezekiel 37:24)
He will rule at a time when all people will come to acknowledge and serve one G-d - "And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, says the L-rd" (Isaiah 66:23)
All of these criteria are best stated in the book of Ezekiel Chapter 37 verses 24-28:
And David my servant shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. they shall also follow My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Yaakov my servant, in which your fathers have dwelt and they shall dwell there, they and their children, and their children's children forever; and my servant David shall be their prince forever. Moreover, I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant with them, which I will give them; and I will multiply them and I will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore. And my tabernacle shall be with them: and I will be their G-d and they will be my people. Then the nations shall know that I am the L-rd who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary will be in the midst of them forevermore.
If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah." A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that to date, no one has fulfilled every condition".@cabuco2006
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Criteria for Messiah
"The Messianic Redemption will be ushered in by a person, a human leader, a descendant of Kings David and Solomon, who will reinstate the Davidic royal dynasty. According to tradition, Moshiach will be wiser than Solomon, and a prophet around the level of Moses.
Ever since the destruction of the Holy Temple, in every generation there is an individual, a scion of the House of David, who has the potential to be the Moshiach. If at any moment the Jews are worthy of redemption, this person would be directed from Above to assume the role of the redeemer.
In every generation there is a scion of the House of David who has the potential to be the MoshiachDuring the Messianic Era, the Moshiach will serve a dual role. He will be a monarch, ruling over all of humanity with kindness and justice, and upholding the law of the Torah—613 commandments for the Jews, and seven for the non-Jews. He will also be the ultimate teacher, the conduit for the deepest and most profound dimensions of the Torah which will then be revealed by G‑d.
How are we to identify the Moshiach?
Moshiach is not identified by his ability to perform earth-shattering miracles. In fact, he isn't required to perform any miracles at all (although the performance of miracles doesn't disqualify him either).
The following are the criteria for identifying the Moshiach, as written by Maimonides:
If we see a Jewish leader who (a) toils in the study of Torah and is meticulous about the observance of the mitzvot, (b) influences the Jews to follow the ways of the Torah and (c) wages the "battles of G‑d"—such a person is the "presumptive Moshiach."
If the person succeeded in all these endeavors, and then rebuilds the Holy Temple in Jerusalem and facilitates the ingathering of the Jews to the Land of Israel—then we are certain that he is the Moshiach".@cabuco2006
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" NOWHERE did GD ever mention the name "Jesus/Yeshua" to us, and NOWHERE did GD ever tell us that He requires HUMAN blood (a purely PAGAN ritual that GD ABHORS!) as atonement for our sins. I LEFT "Jesus Christ" 19+ YEARS ago, after being a born-again, baptized, Evangelical Baptist Christian and a 'Messianic Christian' for a total of 40+ YEARS, until I allowed GD to open my eyes to His ACTUAL Truth, as given to Moses at Mt. Sinai. NOWHERE did GD ever tell us to expect a SECOND set of scriptures (i.e. "New Testament") after Mt. Sinai, since HE already told us that the words that HE gave to us there are ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!), and that we are NOT to follow ANY OTHER teaching than what is in HIS Hebrew scriptures. Christianity/ 'Messianic Christianity' IS another teaching, that preaches AGAINST what GD said to us at Mt. Sinai, therefore we are NOT to follow what it says - GD's orders!!@PaullsTheGreatApostleOfChrist
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Christian commentators who are looking for trinitarian allusions in the Jewish Scriptures translate part of Isaiah 48:16 as, "The Lord God and His Spirit have sent me." However, a proper rendering of the verse reads: "And now the Lord God has sent me, and His spirit." The last two Hebrew words in this verse are shelachani ve-rucho ("He has sent me, and His spirit"), with "me, and His spirit" being the direct objects of "sent." Even though a definite direct object is usually preceded by the participle 'et, this grammatical rule is frequently not observed in the Bible, e.g., Exodus 15:9; Judges 5:12; Psalms 9:5, 20:3-4, 45:4. In fact, 'et rarely occurs in the poetic parts of the Bible. Thus, the meaning of the verse is that God has sent Isaiah accompanied by His prophetic spirit. There is no mention of the third member of the Trinity doctrine. Instead, Isaiah affirms that God, who has placed within him the power of prophecy, sent him.
The spirit is always at the disposal of God to bestow upon whomever He chooses, as stated in Numbers 11:17, 25, 29; Isaiah 42:1, 44:3; Joel 3:1. If this spirit referred to the third member of a coequal tri-unity god, how could it be ordered about at the discretion of the other members of this group? We see that the Jewish Scriptures teach that "spirit" does not refer to the third person of a tri-unity god. Thus God says to Moses, "And I will take of the spirit which is upon you, and I will put it upon them. . . . And He took of the spirit which was upon him, and He put it upon the seventy men, the elders, and it came to pass, when the spirit rested upon them, that they prophesied. . . . And Moses said . . . 'would that all the Lord's people were prophets, that the Lord would put His spirit upon them'" (Numbers 1:17, 25, 29).
Such a condition makes it obviously impossible to consider the spirit as being an associate of God, let alone coequal with Him.@hawk7466
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How many hours have you spent praying to a false GD who is your man idol? How many hours and years have you spent believing in a false faith. The new testament is a book of fiction. Not one event or written narratives in christianity is as important as what happened at Mt Sinai when GD gave the Torah to Moses , as witnessed by 3,000,000 Israelites who heard HIS voice. At no time EVER, was the name jesus introduced; At no time EVER was he deemed messiah, "son of GD" or alluded to as divine. EVER!! Only in the #1 book of fiction, new testament=idolatry and blasphemy, was this so. The dude was NEVER resurrected and if he was, it doesn't prove anything. Read Deut 13:2-4; Read Zech 8:23.
REPENT of idol worshiping of human flesh as divine. GD is ONE not a triune. As P.T. Barnum once said, "A sucker's born every minute". Looks like you're the sucker, hook, line, sinker and nail. @casualnorm
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Thanks for asking this question. Very simply, GD forgives sin because HE is the ONLY SAVIOR...Read Isaiah 43:10-11 ( there is no jesus stated or alluded to here). One doesn't need an intermediary to reach GD. Just pray to GD WITHOUT invoking the name of jesus and see for yourself that your wishes will be fulfilled. Believing in jesus as a deity is idolatry and blasphemy against the GD of Israel. At Mt Sinai, when GD gave the Torah to Moses, as witnessed by 3,000,000 Israelite who heard HIS voice, there was NO MENTION of jesus as son, jesus as messiah or jesus being divine. NONE!! Nowhere in Tanakh aka Hebrew Scriptures is his name EXPLICITLY cited as a deity. Only in the # 1 book of fiction, new testament, which narratives are composed by men , not GD, is his divinity stated.
For GD so loved the world that HE gave HIS only begotten daughter, Israel, for whosoever believe in her prosperity and eternal dominion, shall not perish but have everlasting life. @Enoch-n7d
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"I am not a human" (Hoseah 11 verse 9), "...I do not change"(Malachi 3 verse 6), "The Jewish people are My witnesses that no god came before Me and none after Me" (isaiah 43 verses 10&11), "have no other god but Me" (2nd of the 10 commandments), "no man can see Me and live" (exodus 33 verse 20), He has no ascribeable form (isaiah 40 verse 18), He warned an entire nation [who experienced a level of prophecy called "face to face" Deuteronomy 5 verse 4] that they should be so extremely careful & never forget that they saw NO IMAGE lest they ever G forbid attribute any image to Him whether male or female (Deuteronomy 4 verses 12-16), God showed them all those miracles so that they know that there will never be "any else" (Deuteronomy 4 verse 35), it is forbidden to even mention on ones lips the names of gods other than His (exodus 23 verse 13), God continously defined "idolatry" as a worship that "nor you nor your forefathers knew of" (Deuteronomy 11 verses 26-28, Deuteronomy 13 verse 6, Jeremiah 44 verses 1-5), God is too unfathomable/lofty to ever dwell on earth (1st Kings 8:27), there is no faculty of imagination when standing before the Omnipresent/the One in charge of every milimeter of existence.@ProGamer-hx1fe
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The mashiach of hebrew scripture will be a PATERNAL (not maternal) descendant of David (Isaiah 11 verse 1&10, Jeremiah 33 verse 15-18, Ezekiel 34 verses 23&24, Ezekiel 37 verse 24&25, Amos 9 verses 11&12, Hoseah 3 verse 5, 2Samuel 7 verse 16, Psalms 89 verses 4&5, Psalm 89 verses 34-38, Psalms 18 verse 51, Jeremiah 33 verses 20-26). Genealogy in the Bible is only passed down from father to son, (Numbers 1:1-18). Not having a biological father from the direct family tree (isaiah 11:1) of Jesse and David disqualifies a person from any claim of being the mashiach of hebrew scripture.
B] The mashiach of hebrew scriptures brings the Jewish people from all over the world-wide exiles back to the land of israel (isaiah 11 verses 11&12, ezekiel 37 verses 24&25, deuteronomy 30 verse 3, jeremiah 30 verse 3, jeremiah 32 verse 37, ezekiel 11 verse 17, ezekiel 36 verse 24, Ezekiel 20 verses 41&42). In the time of jesus the jews were in the land, he did not help them conquer their enemies as mashiach is supposed to (numbers 24 verses 17-19) and were exiled from israel shortly after, the total opposite of what the prophets revealed the true mashiach will do.
C] The mashiach of hebrew scriptures ushers in a utopian world of peace, where there will no longer be any wars (Zechariah 9 verse 10 [ps. Note, verse 10 is a direct continuation of verse 9 which christians claim was already fulfilled...yet he didn't fulfill the verse that it goes right into, verse 10?...], Isaiah 2 verses 1-4, Micha 4 verses 1-4, Hoseah 2 verse 20, Isaiah 60 verse 18). jesus did not bring world peace, the opposite is true, how much unnecessary loss came through the crusades and the likes all in the name of jesus.
D] The mashiach of hebrew scripture brings the entire jewish nation back to full observance of the Torah (Ezekiel 37 verse 24, all the same time periods of Ezekiel 11 verses 19&20, ezekiel 36 verses 26&27, Deut 30 verses 8&10, Jeremiah 31 verse 32). jesus in the NT disobeys the temple authorities in violation of Deut 17 verses 10-13, he and his men pluck wheat stalks on the shabbat day, a violation of shabbat (numbers 15 verses 32-36), he claims that divorce isn't allowed and that it is forbidden to marry after divorce, while the torah says otherwise, thus adding and/or subtracting from the Torah's laws (Deut 4:2, deut 13:1), he gives prophecies that didn't come true, such as "not one stone of this temple will be left ontop of another" and yet the western outer wall stands tall and deep into the temple mount till today [and yes theres archeological proof that it is infact the western outer wall of the temple], he said more than once "none of this generation shall taste death before you see the full kingdom come" did not happen, giving a failed prophecy according to the torah makes him a false prophet and viable to the D penalty (Deut 18 verses 20-22), and jesus def did not cause for Jewish people to embrace the torah, instead he caused a major rift and didn't observe the laws himself.
E] Mashiach of Hebrew scripture emerges at a time where there is universal knowledge of God (Isaiah 11 verse 9, which is a parallel to chavakuk 2 verse 14, Zechariah 8 verses 20-23, zechariah 14 verse 9 & verse 16, Isaiah 66 verse 23, isaiah 45 verse 23, ezekiel 38 verse 23, zephanya 3:9). The amount of statues there are of jesus and mary, oh boy, how the negligence of one pompous man caused for a third of the worlds population into all diff forms of polytheism and idolatry...
F] Mashiach of hebrew scripture reigns leader at a time when the 3rd ever lasting temple is standing forever (Ezekiel 37 verses 24-28 which is the same exact end of days temple of Isaiah 2, of zechariah 14 verses 20&21, of Malachi 3 verse 4, of Isaiah 56 verse 7, of Isaiah 60 verse 7, of Isaiah 66 verse 20, Ezekiel 20 verse 40) where the mashiach himself prepares flour and animal offerings at its inaguration (Ezekiel 45 verse 17, the same exact prince/נשיא of Ezekiel 37 verse 25).
The way God made sure no jew can ever make a claim of illegitimacy against a Jewish king was by commanding a prophet to anoint that king with the sacred anointing oil (exodus 30 verses 25-30) as He commanded Samuel to do to Saul (1samuel 10 verse 1), and to David (1samuel 16 verse 13), and as Tzadok the High priest and nathan the prophet did to King Solomon (1kings 1 verse 34). The mashiach is called "mashiach" (literally "anointed") because Elijah the prophet is supposed to anoint him with the sacred anointing oil as King over the Jewish people. God, who will split the ocean in order to convince when He wishes to convince, has NO PROBLEM making the jewish people believe someone is or isnt their next king, He did so for Saul, David, Solomon, the priests, all to remove any claim of illegitimacy by any jew. The Creator DID NOT DO SUCH for the christian man-diety, something so simple, and no. The jews did not "reject" jesus, the Creator did. That's the truth.@ProGamer-hx1fe
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@nitsuanomrah6997 First of all, he must be Jewish
"...you may appoint a king over you, whom the L-rd your G-d shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you." (Deuteronomy 17:15)
He must be a member of the tribe of Judah
"The staff shall not depart from Judah, nor the scepter from between his feet..." (Genesis 49:10)
To be a member of the tribe of Judah, the person must have a biological father who is a member of the tribe of Judah.
He must be a direct male descendant of King David and King Solomon, his son
"And when your days (David) are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall issue from your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for my name, and I will make firm the throne of his kingdom forever..." (2 Samuel 7:12 - 13)
The genealogy of the New Testament is inconsistent. While it gives two accounts of the genealogy of Joseph, it states clearly that he is not the biological father of Jesus. One of the genealogies is through Nathan and not Solomon altogether!
He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel
"And he shall set up a banner for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." (Isaiah 11:12)
Are all Jews living in Israel? Have all Jews EVER lived in Israel since the time of Jesus?
He must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem
"...and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and my tabernacle shall be with them.." (Ezekiel 37:26 - 27)
At last check, there is NO Temple in Jerusalem. And worse, it was shortly after Jesus died that the Temple was DESTROYED! Just the opposite of this prophecy!
He will rule at a time of world-wide peace
"...they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore." (Micah 4:3)
Have you seen a newspaper lately? Are we living in a state of complete world peace? Has there ever been peace since the time of Jesus?
He will rule at a time when the Jewish people will observe G-d's commandments
"My servant David shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall follow My ordinances and be careful to observe My statutes." (Ezekiel 37:24)
The Torah is the Jewish guide to life, and its commandments are the ones referred to here. Do all Jews observe all the commandments? Christianity, in fact, often discourages observance of the commandments in Torah, in complete opposition to this prophecy.
He will rule at a time when all people will come to acknowledge and serve one G-d
"And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, says the L-rd" (Isaiah 66:23)
there are still millions if not billions of people in the world today who adhere to paganistic and polytheistic religions. It is clear that we have not yet seen this period of human history unfold.
All of these criteria are best stated in the book of Ezekiel Chapter 37 verses 24-28:
"And David my servant shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. they shall also follow My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Yaakov my servant, in which your fathers have dwelt and they shall dwell there, they and their children, and their children's children forever; and my servant David shall be their prince forever. Moreover, I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant with them, which I will give them; and I will multiply them and I will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore. And my tabernacle shall be with them: and I will be their G-d and they will be my people. Then the nations shall know that I am the L-rd who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary will be in the midst of them forevermore."
If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah."
A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that to date, no one has fulfilled every condition.
Certainly NOT Jesus.
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@laetitianizeye3368 Deuteronomy 13:2-6: ‘If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them," you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for HASHEM, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love HASHEM, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall follow HASHEM, your God, fear Him, keep His commandments, heed His voice, worship Him, and cleave to Him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream shall be put to death *(Deuteronomy 13 and 18)*; because he spoke falsehood about HASHEM, your God Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and Who redeemed you from the house of bondage, to lead you astray from the way in which HASHEM, your God, commanded you to go; so shall you clear away the evil from your midst.’
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