Comments by "Old Guy Gaming Network" (@CRAZYHORSE19682003) on "Astrum" channel.

  1. I can't believe there are people who are stupid enough to think it is a conspiracy.
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  2. LOL Well I threw her a bunch of common sense examples that demonstrate the Earths curvature. It will be interesting to see how she tries to explain them all away.
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  3. First you are incorrect about the Navy's rail gun. It does not fire in a strait line. It's projectiles fire in a parabola just like ordinary projectiles do, just 10 times faster. As to seeing objects you allege should not be seen. http://foghornpublishing.com/Digest/StoryPage.cfm?StoryKey=4119&bd=-4%231080%232560%231%23n Here is a article that gives you the math to calculate how far you can see objects based on their height above the water. also here is a simple line of sight calculator https://www.easycalculation.com/physics/electromagnetism/vhf-uhf-distance.php It shows that a 6 foot tall person standing at sea level could see Mt. Mckinley from 205 miles away. So with your examples they are bases in a flawed understanding of the Earths curvature and refraction. Here is one VERY simple experiment that will demonstrate the Earths Curvature. Go to the beach to watch the sun set. Lay on your stomach and wait for the last little sliver to disappear over the horizon. Than pop up strait and the Sun is visible again. That would be impossible in a flat earth model. A more extreme example is with the worlds tallest building the Burj Khalifa in Dubai. It is 2722 feet tall. At street level you can watch the sun set than take a elevator to the top of the building and can enjoy the sun for another 5 minutes before it sets again. What is interesting is that the Islamic authorities had to issue a edict that on Ramadan people at the top of the tower had to wait additional time to break their fast compared to people on the street. Again....IMPOSSIBLE in a flat earth. Lastly thank you for the courteous reply. I am enjoying our debate. It proves two people can discuss a topic in which we have differing opinions and not be nasty to one another. Thank you.
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  4. Pat, thanks for that link. I saved it in a favorites folder I call Flat Earth Morons. I will use it to point out their ridiculous beliefs.
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  5. R Cook, here is the flaw in your 8 inches per mile squared argument. You assume the Earth is perfectly round....it is not. You assume that we are all viewing objects from the surface of your imaginary perfectly round sphere.....we are not. Here is a interesting article in a Lighthouse magazine the explains how lighthouses can be seen from so far away. http://foghornpublishing.com/Digest/StoryPage.cfm?StoryKey=4119&bd=-4%231080%232560%231%23n Just to make it clear again the 8 inches squared per mile only works with ZERO elevation off the surface of your imaginary perfectly round sphere. If you are one foot tall, your line of sight changes, two feet tall, changes again, and so on and so on. Here is some proof of not only the Earths curvature but the rotation as well. http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/USNAVY/CHAPTER-17-D.html http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/USNAVY/FC-APPENDIX-B-8IN-55.html In the above links are pages from the US Navy's Ordinance and Gunnery fire control manual. Volume two. The first link is a work sheet for a manual fire control solution. Read it carefully and notice how the CURVATURE OF THE EARTH IS CORRECTED FOR. In the second link, look at pages 449-452 they list the manual CORRECTIONS REQUIRED FOR THE ROTATION OF THE EARTH. I speak from experience we had to manually calculate for both of those values when firing the 16 inch guns on the USS Iowa. Can you provide a LOGICAL reason why we would need to correct for both the curvature AND rotation of the earth if there was no such thing?
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  6. I will ask you another simple question. You can measure the Suns diameter on a piece of paper and track it's movements all day. In the flat earth model the Suns diameter would get smaller and smaller as it moves away from us until it vanishes out of sight because as the flat earth people insist the sun simply moves beyond our ability to see it. In REALITY the suns diameter will remain the same from the moment it rises to the moment it sets. DISPROVING the flat Earth model. For this to happen the Sun would have to remain at a CONSTANT distance from Earth. If the Sun is not moving away from us than the logical conclusion is the Earth is ROTATING. http://astroedu.iau.org/en/activities/1305/measure-the-solar-diameter/ Oops....Science 1....Pseudoscience 0
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  7. Lastly here is a simple experiment you can perform on your own that will verify the Earths curvature. In the flat earth model they claim the sun is much smaller and closer to us that we are being told. As the Sun moves above the flat earth, it gets dark outside when the sun moves out of range. Here is the experiment, set up a telescope in a place where you have a unobstructed view of the horizon. Make sure you have a proper solar filter so you do not hurt your eyes. Wait until the sun just begins to set with the naked eye than train your telescope on it. Exchange eyepieces and go from the least powerful to the most powerful. In the flat earth model, if the sun was simply going out of range, observing it through the the telescope SHOULD bring the entire sun back into view. Flat Earth believers are always making this claim about ships going over the horizon. In reality though no matter how much you magnify the Sun, the portion below the horizon will ALWAYS stay hidden from view because it is a line of sight issue not a magnification issue. This is IMPOSSIBLE in the flat earth model. It is only possible if the Earth is curved and limiting your line of sight.
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  8. Starla you would be wrong in your assumptions. Geologists have used powerful sound waves to map the interior of the earth. It is quite solid with many different layers. Starting with the solid Iron/nickel core that itself spins around a molten layer. That is what generates the magnetic field around earth that keeps us safe from cosmic rays and solar winds.
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  9. I will add one thing to your examples list. In the Southern hemisphere there is the most impressive astronomy feature you can see from Earth. It is called the Large Magellanic Cloud. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Magellanic_Cloud In the Northern Hemisphere you will NEVER see the large Magellanic cloud, it is always below the horizon. The most powerful telescope in the Northern Hemisphere cannot see the Large Magellanic Cloud EVER! Yet in the Southern Hemisphere you can see it with the naked eye. In the flat Earth model this is IMPOSSIBLE. Can someone offer me a rational explanation for this other than the obvious, the earths curvature prevents anyone from the Northern Hemisphere from seeing the Large Magellanic Cloud..
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  10. To what end? Why bother faking pictures from a space probe?
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  11. People like you make me sick. Why can't you understand that the Government of India could spend EVERY penny on the poor and it would make no difference, they would still be poor? By developing high tech industries within their own country they provide economic opportunities for people to improve their lot in life. Government is NEVER the answer to a problem, most times it is the cause or stands in the way of progress. If you really want to help the poor then enact policies that create an environment for economic growth that will positively impact the most people. It is not a Government's job to take care of its citizens, it is the Governments job to provide security from enemies of the state and to create an environment where it is possible for people to improve their situation in life.
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  12. Faaqcee you would be wrong sir. Here is a image of Jupiter taken by a friend of mine in my astronomy club. https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=17978 A little blip in the sky......I think not. Jupiter and her moons https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=18034 It is only people who are illiterate in the sciences who think that the planets are not planets, the earth is flat, etc.
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  13. Faaqcee - Can I make a suggestion sir. Please visit your local astronomy club one night when they are holding a public star party. Ask them to show you the wonders of the universe. I only say this because you are making some very ridiculous comments. For example, you have NO IDEA how modern computer controlled telescopes actually work. The computer controls are in the MOUNT not the optical tube. The computer simply moves the motors to track a object. If you do not MANUALLY align your telescope when you first set it up. The computer tracking will be USELESS. These controls have NOTHING to do with the optics. I have a 8 inch SCT telescope that has computer controls. I also have a 80mm refracting telescope that is 100% manually controlled. Guess what....I see the EXACT same images when I look at the planets. You theory that a computer controlled telescope somehow shows CGI images is so astronomically ignorant is boarders on insanity.
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  14. You wanted a photo of a real planet. Here you go these are pictures taken by members of my astronomy club. Jupiter - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=14089 Jupiter - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=12320 Venus - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=18047 Saturn - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=12372 Saturn - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=12370 Mars - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=12313 The Orion Nebula - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=18041 Andromeda Galaxy - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=13291
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  15. lol I knew you were going to bring up the Nikon P-900 and no it does not make ships reappear from the ACTUAL HORIZON. In the Navy when I was standing Navigation and Security watch we used these. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/US_Navy_050419-N-7526R-060_Cryptologic_Technician_1st_Class_Jasen_Williams,_right,_mans_the_Big_Eyes_binoculars_as_Operations_Specialist_Seaman_Stephani_Wood_stands_by,_waiting_to_pass_along_any_instructions_as_USS_Blue_Ridge_(.jpg They are called the "Big Eyes" and these instruments make your Nikon P-900 look like a cheap piece of garbage. With them you can see out to the ACTUAL horizon and watch ships come and go over the horizon. However if that is not enough for you here is a SIMPLE experiment you can do that will clearly demonstrate the Earth's curvature. Go out to a place where you have a unobstructed view of the horizon. Bring you Nikon P-900 and a solar filter I don't want you to damage your camera or your eyes. Wait for the sun to start setting. When 10% of the sun is below the horizon turn your P-900 on it and try every level of magnification. Guess what will NOT happen. The portion of the sun that is below the visible horizon will NOT be brought back into view. You can magnify it a million times and you will not see the portion of the sun below the horizon. It is a line of sight issue caused by the Earth's curvature and not a magnification issue. This SIMPLE experiment is IMPOSSIBLE on a flat earth model.
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  16. Eric Dubay is a MORON. Perhaps that is why you believe the Earth is flat, you are watching bullshit videos by a moron and accept that they are true without researching his claims on your own.
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  17. People like you make me sick. Why can't you understand that the Government of India could spend EVERY penny on the poor and it would make no difference, they would still be poor? By developing high tech industries within their own country they provide economic opportunities for people to improve their lot in life. Government is NEVER the answer to a problem, most times it is the cause or stands in the way of progress. If you really want to help the poor then enact policies that create an environment for economic growth that will positively impact the most people. It is not a Government's job to take care of its citizens, it is the Governments job to provide security from enemies of the state and to create an environment where it is possible for people to improve their situation in life.
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  18. Jupiter does not have the mass for starting Fusion.
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  19. People like you make me sick. Why can't you understand that the Government of India could spend EVERY penny on the poor and it would make no difference, they would still be poor? By developing high tech industries within their own country they provide economic opportunities for people to improve their lot in life. Government is NEVER the answer to a problem, most times it is the cause or stands in the way of progress. If you really want to help the poor then enact policies that create an environment for economic growth that will positively impact the most people. It is not a Government's job to take care of its citizens, it is the Governments job to provide security from enemies of the state and to create an environment where it is possible for people to improve their situation in life.
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  20. You wanted a non CGI image of the planets. Here are some links from my astronomy club. These photos were taken by some of the many amateur astronomers who do a lot of Astrophotography. Jupiter - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=17978 Venus - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=18047 Mars - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=12313 Mars - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=12317 Saturn - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=12372 The Moon - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=6033 The Moon - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=6037 Andromeda Galaxy - https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=16365 These are all images taken with relatively speaking small telescopes of 14 inches or less. You say Do some research......let me clue you in on something. Reading conspiracy threads on the internet does not constitute research. Do some ACTUAL research yourself. Go OUTSIDE, visit your local astronomy club on a night they are hosting a public star party. Ask them to show you the ISS, planets, Star Clusters, Nebula's, Galaxies. Amateur astronomers LOVE to show off their gear to people. I have about 12k invested in my gear and I love the feeling I get when I show people the wonders of the universe and I hear them gasp in amazement for the first time.
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  21. What is amusing is the flat earth believers ability to live in a alternate reality. No matter how many pictures you are shown.....it is all CGI. No matter how many times the Earths curvature is shown......they are all fish eye lenses. Your fantasy land must be a interesting place to live, where the laws of science and physics do not apply.
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  22. Sorry Chief Justice....you would be wrong. As a amateur astronomer I have observed the ISS countless times through my telescope. I have observed it docked with the space shuttle and the Soyuz spacecraft. Here is a non CGI image taken through a telescope http://www.popastro.com/images/ISS_Discovery_Martin_Lewis.jpg You can clearly see the shuttle docked with it. What frustrates me the most about people like you is that you make these grandiose claims and it is obvious that you have done NO RESEARCH yourself other than reading internet conspiracy threads. So there is only two possibilities, one that you are just intellectually lazy and just assume the bullshit you read on the internet is true. Two, you are a functionally retarded as well as illiterate in the sciences. Which of the two are you sir?
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  23. Hayden...you would be incorrect. Just like every other flattard you are illiterate in science. Let me educate you on the Van Allen Belts and why this myth is 100% Flattard BULLSHIT. There are many DIFFERENT types of radiation. Some of it is deadly to humans, other types not so much. The Van Allen belts are comprised of a TYPE of radiation called charged particle radiation. A TYPE of radiation that is not particularly dangerous to people unlike higher EM band radiation like X-rays and Gamma rays. You would have to spend three MONTHS in the Van Allen Belts to get enough exposure to kill you. The Apollo Astronauts spent a total of THREE HOURS in the Van Allen Belts during their trip to the moon. The Astronauts carried dosimeters on them to measure their radiation exposure levels. On average each astronaut received 5 REMS of exposure which is less than what workers at nuclear power plants get in a year. I know that is a lot to wrap your mind around...I mean who could have possibly imagined that all the conspiracy videos you have watched and conspiracy threads you have read have all been WRONG.
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  24. I will also address your ignorant statement on WTC 7. WTC Building 7 appears to have suffered significant damage at some point after the WTC towers had collapsed, according to FIREFIGHTERS AT THE SCENE. Firefighter Butch Brandies tells other firefighters that nobody is to go into Building 7 because of creaking and noises coming out of there. According to Deputy Chief Peter Hayden, there is a bulge in the southwest corner of the building between floors 10 and 13. Battalion Chief John Norman later recalls, "At the edge of the south face you could see that it was very heavily damaged." Deputy Chief Nick Visconti also later recalls recounts, "A big chunk of the lower floors had been taken out on the Vesey Street side." Captain Chris Boyle recalls, "On the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors." The area around WTC Building 7 is evacuated at this time. New York fire department chief officers, who have surveyed the building, have determined it is in danger of collapsing. Several senior firefighters have described this decision-making process. According to fire chief Daniel Nigro, "The biggest decision we had to make was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged building [WTC Building 7]. A number of fire offices and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt." Here is a link to a paper written by Ramon Gilsanz and Willa Ng, structural and civil engineers. After analyzing the blueprints of WTC 7, they illustrate how a design flaw in the building left it vulnerable to damage. They illustrate how everything above the 8th floor was supported by only three columns and that the loss of a single column and the inability of the other two columns to absorb the redistributed load led to the collapse of building 7. http://www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf Just like every other 9/11 Conspiratard I can tell you have done ZERO RESEARCH into the topic. You think watching Loose Change and other bullshit conspiracy videos makes you a expert. You would be wrong.
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  25. Can I make a suggestion sir. Please visit your local astronomy club one night when they are holding a public star party. Ask them to show you the wonders of the universe. I only say this because you are making some very ridiculous comments. For example, you have NO IDEA how modern computer controlled telescopes actually work. The computer controls are in the MOUNT not the optical tube. The computer simply moves the motors to track a object. If you do not MANUALLY align your telescope when you first set it up. The computer tracking will be USELESS. These controls have NOTHING to do with the optics. I have a 8 inch SCT telescope that has computer controls. I also have a 80mm refracting telescope that is 100% manually controlled. Guess what....I see the EXACT same images when I look at the planets. You theory that a computer controlled telescope somehow shows CGI images is so astronomically ignorant is boarders on insanity.
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  26. Why can we sometimes see Venus at night - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phases_of_Venus Why can we see the same constellations throughout recorded history - You can not comprehend the size of the universe. The Constellations have shifted over time it just takes a very very long time for them to move. Same sets of Stars in summer and winter - You are incorrect sir. I live near Washington DC. In the Winter months all the best stuff to view is up like the Orion Nebula. In the Summer it barely comes over the horizon and is not view able in the summer. It is the ONE thing I hate about astronomy in the Northern Hemisphere....you better like cold weather. We did go to the moon, I hope you understand that EVERY moon landing was faked conspiracy theory is total bullshit and has been debunked a thousand times over. However Pick just ONE of the conspiracy theories that presents what you think is the best evidence for a conspiracy and I will gladly try and explain why it is wrong.
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  27. There are binocular adapters for telescopes that allow you to view objects through two eye pieces, giving you a three dimensional view. The planets and the moon are in fact round. I hope you understand that the NASA space probes have much better cameras than amateur astrophotographers and they do not have to take pictures through a atmosphere.
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  28. Faaqcee the whole 8 inches squared per mile argument is another flat earth argument based in bad science. First you do understand that the Earth is not perfectly round. Second while on land you do understand that land rises and falls dependent on the local geology. The ONLY place you are going to observe the Earths curvature naturally is far out to sea away from land masses. I have observed hundreds of ships coming and going over the horizon.....sorry brother the Earth is round it rotates and it revolves around the Sun.
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  29. Thank you sir, I can not take the credit though I did not take them. The Astrophotography guys in my Astronomy club did. I am glad I never got bitten by the astrophotography bug, it is so expensive it makes regular astronomy look cheap lol. There is a guy in my club that has a 14 inch mead SCT telescope. He has a Van that's sole purpose is to transport his astronomy gear. It does NOTHING else. He has a "Assistant" who's only job is to help him set up and tear down each visit. He has well over 100k invested in his gear.
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  30. Thank you for your kind words Exo. Let me share with you my favorite thing to look at in the night sky. https://www.howardastro.org/halgal/main.php?g2_itemId=16557 These are the Messier Objects M-81 and M-82 two galaxies. One sits face on while the other is viewed from the side. The cool think is you can see BOTH of them in the same eyepiece. Think about it, each galaxy contains trillions of stars, billions of planets. I always like to imagine that maybe there is someone in one of those galaxies looking at the milky way, wondering if there is anyone out there.
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  31. Your point is C. Landis?
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  32. Can I make a suggestion Exo, find out where your local astronomy clubs meet. Find out when they are hosting star parties and go visit them. We LOVE showing off our gear so you can go and view some of the coolest things in the night sky without having to invest a ton of money. Also take the time to ask questions, I wish I had before I bought my Celestron Nexstar 8SE. Knowing what I know now I would have gone with a Dobsonian telescope. Sure your knowledge base needs to be much higher to use one but learning is the best part of astronomy in my opinion.
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  33. @C Landis - I could have sworn I responded to this already but I do not see it so here we go. #1 Here is a Airbus doing in excess of 400 knots at 50 feet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz_PgFhSw48 These aircraft can and do fly that fast at sea level. They do not under normal operating conditions for safety reasons. #2 You're claim that the aircraft defied Newton's laws when impacting the building. You are incorrect again, may I suggest you learn about the complex physics involved in a inelastic collision in which momentum is not conserved. Here is a video demonstrating those physics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc-zmb3jAgo When two objects collide the ONLY thing that matters in energy. If a less dense object possesses enough energy, it will penetrate a much denser object. #3 You claim there were zero black boxes found. Again you are incorrect. They did recover the black boxes from the Pentagon and Shanksville. They never found the boxes in New York because they were buried in over a million tons of debris. Those boxes were probably there but where scooped up in the wreckage. #4 You claim the towers fell at near free fall speed. Shockingly again you are incorrect. Here is a video that times the collapse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4 It clearly shows that there was resistance given by each floor just not enough to arrest the collapse. Here is a second video showing the Vernaige method of building demolition. It uses no explosives, just the buildings mass to create a pancake collapse just like we see on 9/11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYuBdR3CvY4 As further evidence that shows you're free fall claim is 100% wrong look at this photo of the building during collapse. Look at the debris that is ACTUALLY IN FREE FALL. Notice how it has raced pass the collapse zone by 30 or more stories in a matter of seconds. http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/WTC-collapse.jpg Hopefully you will see what I am showing you is evidence of how just like with flat Earth conspiracy, 9/11 conspiracy is all based on bogus claims. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of unanswered questions about 9/11. It is just that none of them involve fake planes, controlled demolition, or any of the multitude of crazy theories that 9/11 twoofers keep putting out there.
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  34. What could Pluto be orbiting around?
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  35. It is a planet, just a dwarf planet. Pluto does not meet the current criteria to be considered a full planet, hence the change to dwarf planet.
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  36.  @Tasp-u7j  I don't think it can all be dismissed so easily. There is a tribe in Africa that has a creation myth of how Humanity came here from somewhere else in the galaxy. They have a star chart that tells where it is, until the invention of the Hubble, it was not detectable by any other means on Earth. Coincidence, I do not know.
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  37.  @Tasp-u7j  I am not saying we did, all I am saying is that ancient peoples possessed knowledge that is not easily explained away.
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  38. LOL sure, where did you come up with that particular brand of insanity?
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  39.  @PapiBocaChula  Might I suggest that you go to whatever educational institutions you attended and ask for a refund! You do realize it would be impossible to have a living organism that big on this planed and not have it crushed under its own weight and or by gravity?
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  40.  @PapiBocaChula  Can you give me the coordinates? I would love to look at it. While I am a skeptic in all things, I do have an open mind. I believe there is enough scientific data to support the existance of a large undiscovered homonid or ape, aka Sasquatch. I am not a believer, only that it is a possibility. Only a body would make me a believer.
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