Youtube comments of Old Guy Gaming Network (@CRAZYHORSE19682003).

  1. 5300
  2. 4900
  3. 3800
  4. 2600
  5. 2600
  6. 1900
  7. 1800
  8. 1700
  9. 1600
  10. 1300
  11. 1100
  12. 1000
  13. 688
  14. 678
  15. 665
  16. 642
  17. 530
  18. 507
  19. 506
  20. 493
  21. 429
  22. 407
  23. 381
  24. 380
  25. 375
  26. 354
  27. 339
  28. 332
  29. 328
  30. 301
  31. 292
  32. 273
  33. 271
  34. I worked at a telecommunications distributor and we had women in the office. There was one girl who was always flirting really hard with me and made it very clear that she wanted to have sex. I was coming off a horrible divorce and was not ready for a relationship so I kept declining her advances. One day I was just really bored and really horny and I saw her at a 7-11. I asked her if she wanted to come back to my place. She followed me home and before we engaged in any physical contact I was explicitly clear that I was not looking for a relationship and this is just sex, nothing more. Se agreed so we had sex for a couple of hours. As soon as we were done, I popped up and hit the showers. I tossed her clothes on the bed and told her to see herself out, she had the nerve to be pissed that I didn't want to cuddle, talk to her, and hang out so I was pretty sure I wouldn't have to see her again. BOY WAS I WRONG, the texting and phone calls started immediately, she was acting like we were in some sort of relationship. She kept asking to come over and have sex again. I told her 100 times I was not interested, it was a one-time thing. She left love letters on my windshield telling me how much she loved me and that if I just gave her a chance she could make me happy. I told her at work to stop calling me, stop texting me, stop coming by my cubical to talk, stop leaving letters and cards on my windshield.....nothing worked until she found out I was having sex with the girl who sat next to her. She went right to my office and claimed I sexually assaulted her, of course I got called onto the carpet to stand tall before the man. I told my side and because I kept EVERY letter, card, and text message she ever sent me I was saved. What pissed me off though is nothing happened to her other than the boss telling her to stop bothering me. Female privlidge.......it is a real thing.
    265
  35. 261
  36. 248
  37. 242
  38. 211
  39. 194
  40. 188
  41. 181
  42. 175
  43. 167
  44. 162
  45. 157
  46. 156
  47. 147
  48. 133
  49. 123
  50. 120
  51. 119
  52. 117
  53. 115
  54. 110
  55. 108
  56. 106
  57. 106
  58. 104
  59. 102
  60. 98
  61. 95
  62. 89
  63. 86
  64. 70
  65. 68
  66. 68
  67. 68
  68. 67
  69. 65
  70. 64
  71. 63
  72. 63
  73. 62
  74. 62
  75. 62
  76. 60
  77. 59
  78. 59
  79. 58
  80. 56
  81. 54
  82. 53
  83. 53
  84. 51
  85. 50
  86. 50
  87. 49
  88. 48
  89. 47
  90. 45
  91. 44
  92. 44
  93. 42
  94. 41
  95. 41
  96. 41
  97. 41
  98. 41
  99. 40
  100. 39
  101. 39
  102. 39
  103. 38
  104. 38
  105. 37
  106. These fire control computers were so far ahead of their time. Some of the data you entered into the computer so it could calculate corrections to the firing solution for the most accurate fire possible were things like temperature, humidity, barometric pressure, wind speed, temperature of the gun powder, how many rounds had been fired through each barrel since the last time they were relined. Curvature of the earth, rotation of the earth, your course and speed, the targets course and speed. The computer developed a firing solution and updated it in real time. so gone were the days of ranging shots and adjusting fire to try and hist the target. Once the computer had a firing solution it would be reasonable to expect a first salvo hit. The only factors to consider were the natural dispersion of the guns, mechanical or human error in data input. In actual combat use the Battle of the Surigao strait is an excellent demonstration of how good the MK-8 Range Keeper was. The USS West Virginia which was rebuilt and modernized after Pearl Harbor started tracking the Japanese Battleship Yamashiro in the pitch black of night at 42,000 yards. At 30,000 yards she had a firing solution. They waited until they were at 22,800 yards and opened fir scoring a first salvo hit as well as hits on 5 of the next six salvos. The California and Tennessee which were also rebuilt and modernized after Pearl Harbor also had firing solutions on Yamashiro and opened fire. I can not find any information on how many hits they scored. The Other three battleships Maryland, Mississippi and Pennsylvania did not get the extensive modernizations and had older fire control gear and never got a firing solution on Yamashiro. Maryland sighted in visually towards the end of the battle and Mississippi fire one broadside. Pennsylvania never fired a shot. The Japanese battleship Yamashiro had optical fire control and was never able to return fire against any of her attackers. The MK-8 was so good that when the Iowa's were reactivated in the 1980's they kept their WW2 fire control computers and it ensure that any of the modern battleships built by the USN during the war, the North Carolina, South Dakoda and Iowa class ships would have little difficulty smashing any axis battleship they encountered provided the captain TRUSTED the technology at his disposal and deployed his ship accordingly.
    37
  107. 35
  108. 34
  109. 34
  110. 34
  111. 34
  112. 34
  113. 33
  114. 33
  115. 32
  116. 31
  117. 31
  118. 31
  119. 30
  120. 30
  121. 30
  122. 30
  123. 30
  124. 29
  125. 29
  126. 29
  127. 28
  128. 28
  129. 27
  130. 27
  131. 27
  132. 26
  133. 26
  134. 26
  135. 25
  136. 25
  137. 24
  138. 24
  139. 23
  140. 23
  141. 23
  142. 23
  143. 22
  144. 22
  145. 22
  146. 21
  147. 21
  148. 20
  149. 20
  150. 20
  151. 20
  152. 20
  153. 19
  154. 19
  155. 19
  156. 19
  157. 19
  158. 19
  159. 19
  160. 18
  161. 18
  162. 18
  163. 18
  164. 18
  165. 18
  166. 17
  167. 17
  168. 17
  169. 17
  170. 17
  171. 16
  172. 16
  173. 16
  174. 16
  175. 16
  176. 16
  177. 16
  178. 16
  179. 16
  180. 16
  181. 15
  182. 15
  183.  @davidj.7227  Is Dale gone? I will never forget being in the powder flats and not knowing how bad it was. I remember Mort coming down the central column with a wild look in his eyes, I knew instantly we were in serious trouble then. To be honest Mort and I didn't really get along. To him I was just like any other young punk seaman, so I was assigned the grunt work duty in the turret like cleaning up hydraulic fluid on the electrical decks every day. That involved using small hand sponges and a bucket and soaking up inches of hydraulic fluid in the various compartments on the electrical decks every day. This took HOURS every day and I hated every minute of it because it didn't challenge me intellectually and I was too young to realize this was a necessary job. So when was done I would go pester the other Petty Officers in the various areas of the turret to teach me something about the guns. He saw this as me trying to avoid him and avoid work so he quickly formed a bad opinion of me which wasn't really fair. I scored very high on my ASVAB, I had a 124 GT score, when it interested me I can absorb information like a sponge, being on a Battleship was a life long dream of mine, I wasn't lazy, I didn't mind working hard but I just wanted to learn everything about those guns as quickly as possible. After the accident I volunteered to be part of the new crew for turret two under Petty Officer Kurl, I remember Mort saying your just trying to get away from me and that couldn't be further from the truth. I was still reeling from the deaths of my best friend Clay Hartwig. Going to Turret two felt like the best way to honor him and I could still be close to him. I know that sounds silly, but that was what I felt at the time.
    15
  184. 15
  185. 15
  186. 15
  187. 15
  188. 15
  189. 15
  190. 15
  191. 15
  192. 15
  193. 15
  194. 15
  195. 15
  196. 15
  197. 15
  198. 14
  199. 14
  200. 14
  201. 14
  202. 14
  203. 14
  204. 14
  205. 14
  206. 14
  207. 14
  208. 14
  209. 14
  210. 14
  211. 14
  212. 14
  213. 14
  214. 14
  215. 13
  216. 13
  217. 13
  218. 13
  219. 13
  220. 13
  221. 13
  222. 13
  223. 13
  224. 13
  225. 13
  226. 13
  227. 13
  228. 12
  229. 12
  230. 12
  231. 12
  232. 12
  233. 12
  234. 12
  235. 12
  236. 12
  237. 12
  238. 11
  239. 11
  240. 11
  241. 11
  242. 11
  243. 11
  244. 11
  245. 11
  246. 11
  247. 11
  248. 11
  249. 11
  250. 11
  251. 11
  252. 11
  253. 11
  254. 11
  255. 11
  256. 11
  257. 11
  258. 10
  259. 10
  260. 10
  261. 10
  262. 10
  263. 10
  264. 10
  265. 10
  266. 10
  267. 10
  268. 10
  269. 10
  270. 10
  271. 10
  272. 10
  273. 10
  274. 10
  275. 10
  276. 10
  277. 10
  278. 10
  279. 10
  280. 10
  281. 10
  282. 10
  283. 9
  284. First the Apollo missions were visually observed from both amateur and professional astronomers from all over the world. Second you can't fake the radio transmissions. When listening to a signal from three different locations at the same time using simple triangulation you can locate where the transmissions are coming from. If they were made from orbit it would have been detected in 30 seconds. Third, in the 60's the Russians had spies in all levels of Government. Do you really think a secret this big could be kept from the KGB when even our nuclear secrets were not safe? Fourth, in any operation the more people involved the less operationally secure it is. A perfect example would be the Gulf of Tonkin incident where the United States staged a fake attack by North Vietnamese gunboats on a USN destroyer as a pretext to get involved in Vietnam. Only a small group of people knew about it probably less than 300 yet that secret came out pretty quickly. The Apollo missions had tens of thousands of people working on them. Do you find it plausible that a secret of that magnitude could be kept under wraps? Using conspiracy theory to prove my point take the alleged Roswell incident. Supposedly the most advanced cover up in American history and classified beyond top secret. With less than 40 people involved in the incident look at how much information has leaked out over the years. Again I ask if you think a operation more than a thousand times larger could be kept secret for all these years. Fourth All the alleged scientific reasons conspiracy theorists claim the moon landings were hoaxed, do you really think all the Russians top scientists MISSED THEM ALL? The Russians have some of the most brilliant minds in the world in the fields of physics, science, etc. Do you really think they missed all the signs that the moon landings were a hoax and high school educated Johnny surfing the internet somehow figured it out? No my friend to believe in the moon landings were faked crowd you have to be willing to ignore science. Ignore physics. Ignore logic and critical thinking. I am not aware of ONE moon landing was faked conspiracy theorist who is educated in the proper scientific disciplines to be able to accurately examine actual scientific evidence and come to a educated conclusion.
    9
  285. 9
  286. 9
  287. 9
  288. 9
  289. 9
  290. 9
  291. 9
  292. 9
  293. 9
  294. 9
  295. 9
  296. 9
  297. 9
  298. 9
  299. 9
  300. 9
  301. 9
  302. 9
  303. 9
  304. 9
  305. 9
  306. 9
  307. 9
  308. 9
  309. 9
  310. 9
  311. 9
  312. 9
  313. For a rocket to work in space, the chemicals used for rocket once mixed together create their own oxygen for combustion. As the rapid expansion and combustion of gasses is allowed to escape through the exhaust nozzle the pressure is actually the escaping fuel pushing against the rocket itself. The scientific principle is pretty much just like a inflated balloon. When you let go of it will fly around the room right. The air escaping from the balloon is not acting on the outside air to create the force that moves the balloon. It is the force of the escaping air that is greater than the pressure inside the balloon that is creating the force. It is the exact same thing for a rocket engine in space. The thrust exiting the rocket is interacting with the mass of the rocket itself creating acceleration. I am not that great at explaining it but I hope that clears up at least one thing for you. Back to the Russians. During the cold war and space race. We were in a propaganda war with the Soviet Union in a never ending game of one upmanship. During this time the Soviet Union had penetrated all levels of our Government with spies. We did the same with them. Trying to keep a secret of this magnitude from the Soviet Union seems a little implausible don't you think? I will also point out that the Apollo missions were tracked by radar by multiple nations from around the world all the way to the moon and back. That would be pretty difficult to fake. Also the Astronauts transmissions from the moon would be very difficult to fake. Using the simple principle of triangulation. If you are listening to a signal from multiple locations you can triangulate the signal and get a fairly precise position from where the signals originate. You better believe the Soviets were listening in and if the signals were coming from a low orbit satellite that deception would have been discovered in minutes. Steve, I am a amateur astronomer. I have spent hundreds of hours out at night with my local astronomy club viewing the universe. I can personally attest that the ISS is real. I have observed it at least 50 times. I remember years ago seeing the Space Shuttle docked with it through my Telescope. It was a amazing sight. Can I make a suggestion. Look up on the internet who the local astronomy clubs are in your area. Go visit them on a night they are holding a public star party. Ask one of them to show you the ISS when it passed overhead. They will gladly do it, if there is one universal fact about amateur astronomers it is they love showing off their gear. I have about 12k invested in my rig and that is on the low end in my astronomy club. Go look at the universe and see it's wonders, talk to the guys doing astrophotography and ask them to explain how it works. Maybe one of the guys will have a binocular adapter for his telescope tha allows you to view objects in three dimensions. You will see first hand how the moon is round. The other planets in the solar system are round. Heck maybe you will catch the astronomy bug. Get someone to show you M-81 and M-82, one of my personal favorite things to look at. Here is a picture http://astropixels.com/galaxies/images/M81M82-A01w.jpg Can you imagine being able to see TWO GALAXIES at once. It blows my mind away that I am looking at trillions of stars and I can not help wonder if someone in either galaxy is looking at our galazy and wondering if anyone is out there.
    8
  314. 8
  315. 8
  316. 8
  317. 8
  318. 8
  319. 8
  320. 8
  321. 8
  322. 8
  323. 8
  324. 8
  325. 8
  326. 8
  327. 8
  328. 8
  329. 8
  330. 8
  331. 8
  332. 8
  333. 8
  334. 8
  335. 8
  336. 8
  337. 8
  338. 8
  339. 8
  340. 8
  341. 8
  342. 8
  343. 8
  344. 8
  345. 8
  346. 8
  347. 8
  348. 8
  349. 8
  350. 8
  351. 8
  352. 8
  353. 7
  354. 7
  355. 7
  356. 7
  357. 7
  358. 7
  359. 7
  360. 7
  361. 7
  362. 7
  363. 7
  364. 7
  365. 7
  366. 7
  367. 7
  368. 7
  369. 7
  370. 7
  371. 7
  372. 7
  373. 7
  374. 7
  375. 7
  376. 7
  377. 7
  378. 7
  379. 7
  380. 7
  381. 7
  382. 7
  383. 7
  384. 7
  385. 7
  386. 7
  387. 7
  388. 7
  389. 7
  390. 7
  391. 7
  392. 7
  393. 7
  394. 7
  395. 7
  396. 7
  397. 7
  398. 6
  399. 6
  400. 6
  401. 6
  402. 6
  403. 6
  404. 6
  405. 6
  406. 6
  407. 6
  408. 6
  409. 6
  410. 6
  411. 6
  412. 6
  413. 6
  414. 6
  415. 6
  416. 6
  417. 6
  418. 6
  419. 6
  420. 6
  421. 6
  422. 6
  423. 6
  424. 6
  425. 6
  426. 6
  427. 6
  428. 6
  429. 6
  430. 6
  431. 6
  432. 6
  433. 6
  434. 6
  435. 6
  436. 6
  437. 6
  438. 6
  439. 6
  440. 6
  441. 6
  442. 6
  443. 6
  444. 6
  445. 6
  446. 6
  447. 6
  448. 6
  449. 6
  450. 6
  451. It is funny how this Navy Admiral is just flat out wrong on pretty much everything he says. Here are the corrections to his statements. If King Kong weighs 50,000 tons and all of that weight is in the limited surface area of his feet, he is not only going through the deck, he is coming out of the bottom of the carrier, breaking her keel and sinking her instantly. I served on the USS Iowa BB61 as a gunners mate, Under Siege has some accuracy but a couple of corrections. The shell they were loading was 2700 pounds, the periscope he was looking through was not a gunsight simply an observation periscope. The gunsight is an optical rangefinder and it has a binocular sight on it and is behind the observation periscope. The optical sight was a backup to the radar controlled gunfire on the Iowa class battleship in WW2. His comments on the movie Battleship are laughable. NO The Iowa's did not move sideways when they fired a full broadside. That is a silly myth and he should know better. The Iowa's internal belt does not exceed 12.1 inches, the fact that it is angled and there is STS hull plating gives it an EFFECTIVE thickness of 17.3 inches of vertical armor. In the movie Greyhound he attributes the wake of the torpedo to cavitation which is INCORRECT. German torpedoes like their American counterparts were powered by compressed air and steam. Those wakes were gas bubbles escaping the torpedo as part of the propulsion system and they left a long tell tail wake easily spotted. The Japanese type 93 Long Lance Torpedo used highly compressed pure oxygen, pure oxygen provides nearly five times as much oxidizer in the same tank volume, thereby increasing torpedo range. In addition, the absence of the inert nitrogen resulted in the emission of significantly less exhaust gas, comprising only carbon dioxide, which is significantly soluble in water, and water vapor, thus greatly reducing tell-tale bubble trails. The rounds pictured in the movie shooting at the German sub were 40mm anti aircraft rounds and 5 inch deck guns not .50 caliber machine guns. The 5 inch gun he calls anti aircraft guns were Dual Purpose guns, equally effective at anti surface and shore bombardment. The SPY-1D is NOT the best radar in the world. The British Type 45 destroyer has a much more modern and powerful radar system than the SPY-1D. The lesson of this video is just because someone is a high ranking officer does not mean they know the first thing about Naval Ships. I was just an enlisted scrub E-5 but being a history and warfare buff I have spent years studying the material but 99% of the people on the planet are going to think an admiral must know more than an enlisted guy.
    6
  452. 6
  453. 6
  454. 6
  455. 5
  456. 5
  457. 5
  458. First you are incorrect about the Navy's rail gun. It does not fire in a strait line. It's projectiles fire in a parabola just like ordinary projectiles do, just 10 times faster. As to seeing objects you allege should not be seen. http://foghornpublishing.com/Digest/StoryPage.cfm?StoryKey=4119&bd=-4%231080%232560%231%23n Here is a article that gives you the math to calculate how far you can see objects based on their height above the water. also here is a simple line of sight calculator https://www.easycalculation.com/physics/electromagnetism/vhf-uhf-distance.php It shows that a 6 foot tall person standing at sea level could see Mt. Mckinley from 205 miles away. So with your examples they are bases in a flawed understanding of the Earths curvature and refraction. Here is one VERY simple experiment that will demonstrate the Earths Curvature. Go to the beach to watch the sun set. Lay on your stomach and wait for the last little sliver to disappear over the horizon. Than pop up strait and the Sun is visible again. That would be impossible in a flat earth model. A more extreme example is with the worlds tallest building the Burj Khalifa in Dubai. It is 2722 feet tall. At street level you can watch the sun set than take a elevator to the top of the building and can enjoy the sun for another 5 minutes before it sets again. What is interesting is that the Islamic authorities had to issue a edict that on Ramadan people at the top of the tower had to wait additional time to break their fast compared to people on the street. Again....IMPOSSIBLE in a flat earth. Lastly thank you for the courteous reply. I am enjoying our debate. It proves two people can discuss a topic in which we have differing opinions and not be nasty to one another. Thank you.
    5
  459. 5
  460. 5
  461. 5
  462. 5
  463. 5
  464. 5
  465. 5
  466. 5
  467. 5
  468. 5
  469. 5
  470. 5
  471. 5
  472. 5
  473. 5
  474. 5
  475. 5
  476. 5
  477. 5
  478. 5
  479. 5
  480. 5
  481. 5
  482. 5
  483. 5
  484. 5
  485. 5
  486. 5
  487. 5
  488. 5
  489. 5
  490. 5
  491. 5
  492. 5
  493. 5
  494. 5
  495. 5
  496. 5
  497. 5
  498. 5
  499. 5
  500. 5
  501. 5
  502. 5
  503. 5
  504. 5
  505. 5
  506. 5
  507. 5
  508. 5
  509. 5
  510. 5
  511. 5
  512. 5
  513. 5
  514. 5
  515. 5
  516. 5
  517. 5
  518. 5
  519. 5
  520. 5
  521. 5
  522. 5
  523. 5
  524. 5
  525. 5
  526. 5
  527. 5
  528. 5
  529. 5
  530. 5
  531. 5
  532. 5
  533. 5
  534. 4
  535. 4
  536. 4
  537. 4
  538. 4
  539. 4
  540. R Cook, here is the flaw in your 8 inches per mile squared argument. You assume the Earth is perfectly round....it is not. You assume that we are all viewing objects from the surface of your imaginary perfectly round sphere.....we are not. Here is a interesting article in a Lighthouse magazine the explains how lighthouses can be seen from so far away. http://foghornpublishing.com/Digest/StoryPage.cfm?StoryKey=4119&bd=-4%231080%232560%231%23n Just to make it clear again the 8 inches squared per mile only works with ZERO elevation off the surface of your imaginary perfectly round sphere. If you are one foot tall, your line of sight changes, two feet tall, changes again, and so on and so on. Here is some proof of not only the Earths curvature but the rotation as well. http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/USNAVY/CHAPTER-17-D.html http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/USNAVY/FC-APPENDIX-B-8IN-55.html In the above links are pages from the US Navy's Ordinance and Gunnery fire control manual. Volume two. The first link is a work sheet for a manual fire control solution. Read it carefully and notice how the CURVATURE OF THE EARTH IS CORRECTED FOR. In the second link, look at pages 449-452 they list the manual CORRECTIONS REQUIRED FOR THE ROTATION OF THE EARTH. I speak from experience we had to manually calculate for both of those values when firing the 16 inch guns on the USS Iowa. Can you provide a LOGICAL reason why we would need to correct for both the curvature AND rotation of the earth if there was no such thing?
    4
  541. 4
  542. 4
  543. 4
  544. 4
  545. 4
  546. 4
  547. 4
  548. 4
  549. 4
  550. 4
  551. 4
  552. 4
  553. 4
  554. 4
  555. 4
  556. 4
  557. 4
  558. 4
  559. 4
  560. 4
  561. 4
  562. 4
  563. 4
  564. 4
  565. 4
  566. 4
  567. 4
  568. 4
  569. 4
  570. 4
  571. 4
  572. 4
  573. 4
  574. 4
  575. 4
  576. 4
  577. 4
  578. 4
  579. 4
  580. 4
  581. 4
  582. 4
  583. 4
  584. 4
  585. 4
  586. 4
  587. 4
  588. 4
  589. 4
  590. 4
  591. 4
  592. 4
  593. 4
  594. 4
  595. 4
  596. 4
  597. 4
  598. 4
  599. 4
  600. 4
  601. 4
  602. 4
  603. 4
  604. 4
  605. 4
  606. 4
  607. 4
  608. 4
  609. 4
  610. 4
  611. 4
  612. 4
  613. 4
  614. 4
  615. 4
  616. 4
  617. 4
  618. 4
  619. 4
  620. 4
  621. 4
  622. 4
  623. 4
  624. 4
  625. 4
  626. 4
  627. 4
  628. 4
  629. 4
  630. 4
  631. 4
  632. 4
  633. 4
  634. 4
  635. 4
  636. 4
  637. 4
  638. 4
  639. 4
  640. 4
  641. 4
  642. 4
  643. 4
  644. 4
  645. 4
  646. 4
  647. 4
  648. 4
  649. 3
  650. 3
  651. 3
  652. 3
  653. 3
  654. 3
  655. 3
  656. 3
  657. 3
  658. 3
  659. 3
  660. 3
  661. 3
  662. 3
  663. 3
  664. 3
  665. 3
  666. 3
  667. 3
  668. 3
  669. 3
  670. 3
  671. 3
  672. OK you threw so much at me I am only going to address two of your claims. If you want to bring up the others please do it one or two at a time. #1 The Van Allen Belts. This is the most common incorrect assumption by conspiracy theorists. The reason why they are incorrect is because they do not understand radiation. The Van Allen Belts are comprised of CHARGED PARTICLE radiation. A TYPE of radiation that is not nearly as deadly to people as high EM band radiation like X-Rays and Gamma Rays. A human would have to speed three strait months in the Van Allen Belts to be exposed to a lethal dose of radiation. During the trips to the moon the astronauts spent a TOTAL of three hours in the Van Allen Belts. All Apollo astronauts carried dosimeters with them to measure radiation exposure. They received a average dose of 5 REM'S of radiation which is less than a worker at a nuclear power plant receives in a year. Remember when you said people like me just believe whatever the Government says? I could say the same about conspiracy theorists like you. It is clear you never bothered to do any actual research into the Van Allen belts. You just chose to believe what conspiracy videos told you. #2 The Rocket not leaving a crater on the surface of the moon. This is the second most common incorrect assumption by conspiracy theorists. This comes from people not understanding how rockets work in a vacuum. First the rocket motor on the lander had a max thrust capability of 10,000 pounds. However during the landing phase it was never powered to over 3000 pounds of thrust, in a 1/6th gravity environment the lander effectively weighed about 3700 pounds. The exhaust bell for the lunar lander was 54 inches in diameter. So if you calculate the amount of pressure coming out of the exhaust bell from the rocket engine it equates to about 5 pounds of pressure per square inch. I will say it again 5 pounds of pressure per square inch.....you are not going to dig a crater in the moon with less pressure than a strong leaf blower. Again you accuse people like me of being a sheep and blindly believing what the government says. It is not true, I actually spent the time to research almost every conspiracy claim surrounding the moon landings and found them all to be based in flawed understanding of scientific principles. I hope these two explanations help you understand a few of your misconceptions of the moon landings. If you have other questions about the moon landings, 9/11 I would be happy to discuss them with you but please limit them to just one or two per post. I always have a good time talking with you because unlike a lot of your conspiracy brethren you are capable of having a civil discussion. I hope you are having a nice weekend.
    3
  673. Peter, how is it going. Let me ask you a honest question. Do you deliberately ignore what I reply to your posts with. Or do you have issues with short term memory? I have explained to you at least TWICE why your position on the Van Allen Belts is 100% WRONG. I also like how you either deliberately misquoted the NASA engineer when he was talking about the Orion spacecraft of you did not watch it very closely. In that video the engineer SPECIFICALLY says they had to test the spacecrafts ELECTRONICS in the Van Allen Belts. That the radiation might damage the guidance system or on board computers. So let me state this AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIME. The Van Allen Belts are composed of CHARGED PARTICLE RADIATION NOT X-RAY OR GAMMA RAY RADIATION. Peter you could live for THREE MONTHS IN THE VAN ALLEN BELTS before you received a lethal does of radiation. Charged particle radiation is far less dangerous to people than high EM band radiation like X-Ray and Gamma ray radiation. Charged particle radiation is however very destructive to modern electronics, it can destroy a unshielded CPU in seconds. I hope you are also aware that trying to fly a lander on Earth and flying one in a vacuum and a 1/6th gravity environment is completely different. There was no reliable way to test a actual spacecraft on Earth. They did build a full scale simulator that simulated the landing procedure. The astronauts had hundreds of hours in the simulator. Just because you do not seem to understand basic science and physics does not mean it is bullshit. Only that you CHOOSE to believe it is because you do not want to spend the time educating yourself on how they accomplished these things.
    3
  674. 3
  675. 3
  676. 3
  677. 3
  678. 3
  679. 3
  680. 3
  681. 3
  682. 3
  683. 3
  684. 3
  685. 3
  686. 3
  687. 3
  688. 3
  689. 3
  690. 3
  691. 3
  692. 3
  693. 3
  694. 3
  695. 3
  696. 3
  697. 3
  698. 3
  699. 3
  700. 3
  701. 3
  702. 3
  703. 3
  704. 3
  705. 3
  706. 3
  707. 3
  708. 3
  709. 3
  710. 3
  711. 3
  712. 3
  713. 3
  714. 3
  715. 3
  716. 3
  717. 3
  718. 3
  719. 3
  720. 3
  721. 3
  722. 3
  723. 3
  724. 3
  725. 3
  726. 3
  727. 3
  728. 3
  729. 3
  730. 3
  731. 3
  732. 3
  733. 3
  734. 3
  735. 3
  736. 3
  737. 3
  738. 3
  739. 3
  740. 3
  741. 3
  742. 3
  743. 3
  744. 3
  745. 3
  746. 3
  747. 3
  748. 3
  749. 3
  750. 3
  751. 3
  752. 3
  753. 3
  754. 3
  755. 3
  756. 3
  757. 3
  758. 3
  759. 3
  760. 3
  761. 3
  762. 3
  763. 3
  764. 3
  765. 3
  766. 3
  767. 3
  768. 3
  769. 3
  770. 3
  771. 3
  772. 3
  773. 3
  774. 3
  775. 3
  776. 3
  777. 3
  778. 3
  779. 3
  780. 3
  781. 3
  782. 3
  783. 3
  784. 3
  785. 3
  786. 3
  787. 3
  788. 3
  789. 3
  790. 3
  791. 3
  792. 3
  793. 3
  794. 3
  795. 3
  796. 3
  797. 3
  798. 3
  799. 3
  800. 3
  801. 3
  802. 3
  803. 3
  804. 3
  805. 3
  806. 3
  807. 3
  808. 3
  809. 3
  810. 3
  811. 3
  812. 3
  813. 3
  814. 3
  815. 3
  816. 3
  817. 3
  818. 3
  819. 3
  820. 3
  821. 3
  822. 3
  823. 3
  824. 3
  825. 3
  826. 3
  827. 3
  828. 3
  829. 3
  830. 3
  831. 3
  832. 3
  833. 3
  834. 3
  835. 3
  836. 3
  837. 3
  838. 3
  839. 3
  840. 3
  841. 3
  842. 3
  843. 3
  844. 3
  845. 3
  846. 3
  847. 3
  848. 3
  849. 3
  850. 3
  851. 3
  852. 3
  853. 3
  854. 3
  855. 3
  856. 3
  857. 3
  858. 3
  859. 3
  860. 3
  861. 3
  862. 3
  863. 3
  864. 3
  865. 3
  866. 3
  867. 3
  868. 3
  869. 3
  870. 3
  871. 3
  872. 3
  873. 3
  874. 3
  875. 3
  876. 3
  877. 3
  878. 3
  879. 3
  880. 3
  881. 3
  882. 3
  883. 3
  884. 3
  885. 3
  886. 3
  887. 3
  888. 3
  889. 3
  890. 3
  891. 3
  892. 3
  893. 3
  894. 3
  895. 3
  896. 3
  897. 3
  898. 3
  899. 3
  900. 2
  901. 2
  902. 2
  903. 2
  904. 2
  905. 2
  906. 2
  907. 2
  908. 2
  909. 2
  910. 2
  911. 2
  912. 2
  913. 2
  914. 2
  915. 2
  916. 2
  917. 2
  918. 2
  919. 2
  920. 2
  921. 2
  922. 2
  923. 2
  924. 2
  925. 2
  926. 2
  927. 2
  928. 2
  929. 2
  930. 2
  931. 2
  932. 2
  933. 2
  934. 2
  935. 2
  936. 2
  937. 2
  938. 2
  939. 2
  940. 2
  941. 2
  942. 2
  943. 2
  944. 2
  945. 2
  946. 2
  947. 2
  948. 2
  949. I will disagree with you as well on 9/11. Not that I believe the 9/11 commission report it is garbage. I will disagree on the principle of accusation requires proof. I know immediately you will say operation northwoods, that in itself is not proof. Peter there are rooms full of guys thinking up shit to do. There were thousands of operations that were proposed and rejected. Just because someone though something up does not mean it happened. Look at the X-Files spin off the Lone Gunman. In the first episode rogue elements withing the Government hijacked a plane remotely and were going to crash it into the world trade center and blame it on islamic terrorists. That is a fantastic if not creepy coincidence. That does not mean Chris Carter, the producer had advanced knowledge of 9/11. Go look up the old book called "Futility" it was written in the late 1800's. It was about a cruise ship called the Titan. It was the largest ship ever built. So large in fact they said it was unsinkable. On her maiden voyage she hit a iceberg, because she was considered unsinkable the ship had only enough lifeboats for half the passengers. This is a work of fiction written about 15 years before the Titanic. Strange and fantastic coincidences happen around us all the time. I got into 9/11 conspiracy when the video Loose Change came out. What got my attention is when they made the claim that no plane hit the Pentagon. I think I told you this before but I was a eyewitness to the attack on the Pentagon. Granted I only saw the plane for 3-5 seconds max. I saw it hit the building. So I began to think if that part of their video is 100% bullshit, what about the rest of it. I have researched almost every 9/11 claim out there. To a T they are all based on bad science, things taken way out of context, or outright lies. That does not mean there are not a lot of unanswered questions about 9/11. There is a strong Israeli connection to 9/11. That has been swept under the rug. A Mossad cell was operating out of a front company called "Urban Movers". They were located across the river from the WTC in New Jersey. A group of Mossad agents were caught filming the attacks and celebrating. They were arrested and held in jail for over 120 days before they were released. Those not arrested that day fled back to Israel abandoning the business and everything in it. Once the Mossad agents were released from jail they too flew back to Israel. What was the Mossad doing operating withing the United States? Why did one of Urban Movers vans trigger positive to a bomb sniffing dog? Again very suspicious but in itself not proof. A small group of people seemed to have foreknowledge of 9/11 and in the days before the attack made a lot of futures moves that involved most of the main companies involved in 9/11 and made millions of dollars. The FCC "Investigated" them but cleared them of any wrong doing. That kind of stinks to me but it is a suspicion not evidence or proof.
    2
  950. 2
  951. 2
  952. 2
  953. 2
  954. 2
  955. 2
  956. 2
  957. 2
  958. 2
  959. 2
  960. 2
  961. 2
  962. 2
  963. 2
  964. 2
  965. 2
  966. 2
  967. 2
  968. 2
  969. 2
  970. 2
  971. 2
  972. 2
  973. 2
  974. 2
  975. 2
  976. 2
  977. 2
  978. 2
  979. 2
  980. 2
  981. 2
  982. 2
  983. 2
  984. 2
  985. 2
  986. 2
  987. 2
  988. 2
  989. 2
  990. 2
  991. 2
  992. 2
  993. 2
  994. This was without a doubt one of the worst movies ever made and it has NOTHING to do with the lead being a "Strong Female Character" #1 Eating a few flower petals makes you invisible to the Predators infrared heat vision, what sort of fuckery is that? #2 The Predator was immune to any sort of damage. at one point a guy drive a HUGE spear right through the Predators foot and the Predator suffers no apparent side effects from this. He walks without a limp, can still run....what sort of fuckery is that? #3 The Predator gets the SAME leg that had a spear run through it clamped down on by a bear trap. It clearly causes him pain but seconds later he is running as if nothing happened at all.....what sort of fuckery is that? #4 The Predator gets hit in the side of the head with a stone hatchet from a man on a galloping horse. The speed of the horse would exponentially increase the amount of force the blow delivered yet it does NOTHING to the Predator.......what sort of fuckery is that? #5 The Predator is literally RUN THROUGH with a spear and shot multiple times with a bow and arrow at point blank range yet they don't seem to effect the predator at all.....what sort of fuckery is that? #6 When chasing the female character through the woods the Predator slams into a tree lined with wooden spikes at a high speed and yet there is no reaction to being stabbed with multiple spikes......what sort of fuckery is that? #7 The female lead shoots the Predator in the back of the head with a .50 caliber flintlock pistol at point blank range. The projectile goes all the way through the head and comes out the front and it only stuns him for a few seconds......what sort of fuckery is that. #8 BAD CGI! The animals didn't look real, move in a lifelike fashion, the movie Jurassic Park had better CGI 30 YEARS AGO. #9 In this movie the mountain lion they were hunting ROARED....what sort of fuckery is that? Are you telling me that the directors are so stupid that they didn't know Mountain Lions do not roar? #10 Is it even BELIEVABLE that the Predator could defeat a Grizzley bear in hand to hand combat couldn't handle a human in hand to hand combat....what sort of fuckery is that? #11 Is it believable that low IQ people from a stone age society could outsmart an Alien from a civilization capable of faster than light travel......what sort of fuckery is that? #12 How does adding a string to a hatchet magically empower it to behave like Thor's hammer? Go tie a string to a hammer and see if you can make it magically return to your hand.....what sort of fuckery is that? #13 Drinker, she IS A MARY SUE. Watch the scene where a French trapper teaches her how to fire a Flintlock Pistol in 10 seconds without even showing her how to do it. Is it reasonable to think you could teach a stone age person about a technology that is 4,500 years ahead of what she is used to in SECONDS? What sort of fuckery is that? This isn't even a Predator movie, this is a Friday the 13th slasher film with a Predator like creature substituted in for Jason Voorhees. In the first Predator it got shot in the leg with a single bullet and it had to move off and perform battlefield triage. It was a living breathing creature that had vulnerabilities. This Predator/Jason Voorhees character simply shrugs off any number of wounds that would have killed it and keeps coming......it is a supernatural creature and nothing like the Predator in the first movie. This movie was garbage.
    2
  995. 2
  996. 2
  997. 2
  998. 2
  999. 2
  1000. 2
  1001. 2
  1002. 2
  1003. 2
  1004. 2
  1005. 2
  1006. 2
  1007. 2
  1008. 2
  1009. 2
  1010. 2
  1011. 2
  1012. 2
  1013. 2
  1014. 2
  1015. 2
  1016. 2
  1017. 2
  1018. 2
  1019. 2
  1020. 2
  1021. 2
  1022. 2
  1023. 2
  1024. 2
  1025. 2
  1026. 2
  1027. 2
  1028. 2
  1029. 2
  1030. 2
  1031. 2
  1032. 2
  1033. 2
  1034. 2
  1035. 2
  1036. 2
  1037. 2
  1038. 2
  1039. 2
  1040. 2
  1041. 2
  1042. 2
  1043. 2
  1044. 2
  1045. 2
  1046. 2
  1047. 2
  1048. 2
  1049. 2
  1050. 2
  1051. 2
  1052. 2
  1053. 2
  1054. 2
  1055. 2
  1056. 2
  1057. 2
  1058. 2
  1059. 2
  1060. 2
  1061. 2
  1062. 2
  1063. 2
  1064. 2
  1065. 2
  1066. 2
  1067. 2
  1068. 2
  1069. 2
  1070. 2
  1071. 2
  1072. 2
  1073. 2
  1074. 2
  1075. 2
  1076. 2
  1077. 2
  1078. 2
  1079. 2
  1080. 2
  1081. 2
  1082. 2
  1083. 2
  1084. 2
  1085. 2
  1086. 2
  1087. 2
  1088. 2
  1089. 2
  1090. 2
  1091. 2
  1092. 2
  1093. 2
  1094. 2
  1095. 2
  1096. 2
  1097. 2
  1098. 2
  1099. 2
  1100. 2
  1101. 2
  1102. 2
  1103. 2
  1104. 2
  1105. 2
  1106. 2
  1107. 2
  1108. 2
  1109. 2
  1110. 2
  1111. 2
  1112. 2
  1113. 2
  1114. 2
  1115. 2
  1116. 2
  1117. 2
  1118. 2
  1119. 2
  1120. 2
  1121. 2
  1122. Funny how the Lightning is supposed to be this hot aircraft yet its contemporary the F-4 Phantom held all the world speed and time to height records that were not broken until the F-15 came along. All the F-4's 16 world records except one were in stock aircraft. Operation Top Flight: On 6 December 1959, the second XF4H-1 performed a zoom climb to a world record 98,557 ft (30,040 m).[5][33] Commander Lawrence E. Flint Jr., USN accelerated his aircraft to Mach 2.5 (2,660 km/h; 1,650 mph) at 47,000 ft (14,330 m) and climbed to 90,000 ft (27,430 m) at a 45° angle. He then shut down the engines and glided to the peak altitude. As the aircraft fell through 70,000 ft (21,300 m), Flint restarted the engines and resumed normal flight.[34] On 5 September 1960, an F4H-1 averaged 1,216.78 mph (1,958.16 km/h) over a 500 km (311 mi) closed-circuit course.[5] On 25 September 1960, an F4H-1F averaged 1,390.24 mph (2,237.37 km/h) over a 100 km (62.1 mi) closed-circuit course.[5] FAIRecord File Number 8898. Operation LANA: To celebrate the 50th anniversary of Naval aviation (L is the Roman numeral for 50 and ANA stood for Anniversary of Naval Aviation) on 24 May 1961, Phantoms flew across the continental United States in under three hours and included several tanker refueling's. The fastest of the aircraft averaged 869.74 mph (1,400.28 km/h) and completed the trip in 2 hours 47 minutes, earning the pilot (and future NASA Astronaut), Lieutenant Richard Gordon, USN and RIO, Lieutenant Bobbie Young, USN, the 1961 Bendix trophy.[5][35][36][37] Operation Sageburner: On 28 August 1961, a F4H-1F Phantom II averaged 1,452.777 kilometers per hour (902.714 miles per hour) over a 3 mi (4.82 km) course flying below 125 feet (38.1 m) at all times.[5] Commander J.L. Felsman, USN was killed during the first attempt at this record on 18 May 1961 when his aircraft disintegrated in the air after pitch damper failure.[38] Operation Skyburner: On 22 November 1961, a modified Phantom with water injection, piloted by Lt. Col. Robert B. Robinson, set an absolute world record average speed over a 20-mile (32.2 km) long 2-way straight course of 1,606.342 mph (2,585.086 km/h).[5][39][40] On 5 December 1961, another Phantom set a sustained altitude record of 66,443.8 feet (20,252 m).[5] Operation High Jump: A series of time-to-altitude records was set in early 1962: 34.523 seconds to 3,000 meters (9,840 ft), 48.787 seconds to 6,000 meters (19,700 ft), 61.629 seconds to 9,000 meters (29,500 ft), 77.156 seconds to 12,000 meters (39,400 ft), 114.548 seconds to 15,000 meters (49,200 ft), 178.5 seconds to 20,000 meters (65,600 ft), 230.44 seconds to 25,000 meters (82,000 ft), and 371.43 seconds to 30,000 meters (98,400 ft).[41]
    2
  1123. 2
  1124. 2
  1125. 2
  1126. 2
  1127. 2
  1128. 2
  1129. 2
  1130. 2
  1131. 2
  1132. 2
  1133. 2
  1134. 2
  1135. 2
  1136. 2
  1137. 2
  1138. 2
  1139. 2
  1140. 2
  1141. 2
  1142. 2
  1143. 2
  1144. 2
  1145. 2
  1146. 2
  1147. 2
  1148. 2
  1149. 2
  1150. 2
  1151. 2
  1152. 2
  1153. 2
  1154. 2
  1155. 2
  1156. 2
  1157. 2
  1158. 2
  1159. 2
  1160. 2
  1161. 2
  1162. 2
  1163. 2
  1164. 2
  1165. 2
  1166. 2
  1167. 2
  1168. 2
  1169. 2
  1170. 2
  1171. 2
  1172. 2
  1173. 2
  1174. 2
  1175. 2
  1176. 2
  1177. 2
  1178. 2
  1179. 2
  1180. 2
  1181. 2
  1182. 2
  1183. 2
  1184. 2
  1185. 2
  1186. 2
  1187. 2
  1188. 2
  1189. 2
  1190. 2
  1191. 2
  1192. 2
  1193. 2
  1194. 2
  1195. 2
  1196. 2
  1197. 2
  1198. 2
  1199. 2
  1200. 2
  1201. 2
  1202. 2
  1203. 2
  1204. 2
  1205. 2
  1206. 2
  1207. 2
  1208. 2
  1209. 2
  1210. 2
  1211. 2
  1212. 2
  1213. 2
  1214. 2
  1215. 2
  1216. 2
  1217. 2
  1218. 2
  1219. 2
  1220. 2
  1221. 2
  1222. 2
  1223. 2
  1224. 2
  1225. 2
  1226. 2
  1227. 2
  1228. 2
  1229. 2
  1230. 2
  1231. 2
  1232. 2
  1233. 2
  1234. 2
  1235. 2
  1236. 2
  1237. 2
  1238. 2
  1239. 2
  1240. 2
  1241. 2
  1242. 2
  1243. 2
  1244. 2
  1245. 2
  1246. 2
  1247. 2
  1248. 2
  1249. 2
  1250. 2
  1251. 2
  1252. 2
  1253. 2
  1254. 2
  1255. 2
  1256. 2
  1257. 2
  1258. 2
  1259. 2
  1260. 2
  1261. 2
  1262. 2
  1263. 2
  1264. 2
  1265. 2
  1266. 2
  1267. 2
  1268. 2
  1269. 2
  1270. 2
  1271. 2
  1272. 2
  1273. 2
  1274. 2
  1275. 2
  1276. 2
  1277. 2
  1278. 2
  1279. 2
  1280. 2
  1281. 2
  1282. 2
  1283. 2
  1284. 2
  1285. 2
  1286. 2
  1287. 2
  1288. 2
  1289. 2
  1290. 2
  1291. 2
  1292. 2
  1293. 2
  1294. 2
  1295. 2
  1296. 2
  1297. 2
  1298. 2
  1299. 2
  1300. 2
  1301. 2
  1302. 2
  1303. 2
  1304. 2
  1305. 2
  1306. 2
  1307. 2
  1308. 2
  1309. 2
  1310. 2
  1311. 2
  1312. 2
  1313. 2
  1314. 2
  1315. 2
  1316. 2
  1317. 2
  1318. 2
  1319. 2
  1320. 2
  1321. 2
  1322. 2
  1323. 2
  1324. 2
  1325. 2
  1326. 2
  1327. 2
  1328. 2
  1329. 2
  1330. 2
  1331. 2
  1332. 2
  1333. 2
  1334. 2
  1335. 2
  1336. 2
  1337. 2
  1338. 2
  1339. 2
  1340. 2
  1341. 2
  1342. 2
  1343. 2
  1344. 2
  1345.  @tfbama68  Just because you saw it on the internet doesn't make it true. I laugh my ass off every time I see a conspiracy theorist talk about the Van Allen Belts like it is some sort of smoking gun. Conspiracy theories only exist because people are ignorant of basic science. The Van Allen Belts are comprised of charged particle radiation, a TYPE of radiation that is not particularly harmful to humans. An Astronaut would have to spend about 6 months in the Van Allen Belts in order to receive a lethal dose. Astronauts from the Apollo program wore dosimeters on their trip to the moon to measure their radiation exposure. They received about the same dose people who work at a Nuclear Power plant receive in a year. About the same as three X-rays. Ignorant conspiracy theorists never bother to educate themselves on the Van Allen belts so this conspiracy theory continues to this day. I will also point out that the radiation problem NASA was talking about was the effect of charged particle radiation on modern silicon computer chips. They can be destroyed very quickly by charged particle radiation so they have to find ways to shield them. They can't shield them with lead because when charged particle radiation strikes lead it gives off higher EM band radiation like Gamma and X-Rays which would be deadly to the astronauts. NASA did not destroy the technology to go back to the moon. First all the technology came from PRIVATE companies not NASA. Boeing, North American, and McDonald Douglas were the prime contractors. Technology when not used is often not preserved, a good example would be Battleships. Did you know we could not build one today? We do not know how class A armor plate was actually made. We do not have the industry to make the gun barrels anymore. We would literally have to research and rebuild all the technology required to build a modern battleship before we would build one. Technology being lost is a common almost daily thing.
    2
  1346. 2
  1347. 2
  1348. 2
  1349. 2
  1350. 2
  1351. 2
  1352. 2
  1353. 2
  1354. 2
  1355. 2
  1356. 2
  1357. 2
  1358. 2
  1359. 2
  1360. 2
  1361. 2
  1362. 2
  1363. 2
  1364. 2
  1365. 2
  1366. 2
  1367. 2
  1368. 2
  1369. 2
  1370. 2
  1371. 2
  1372. 2
  1373. 2
  1374. 2
  1375. 2
  1376. 2
  1377. 2
  1378. 2
  1379. 2
  1380. 2
  1381. 2
  1382. 2
  1383. 2
  1384. 2
  1385. 2
  1386. 2
  1387. 2
  1388. 2
  1389. 2
  1390. 2
  1391. 2
  1392. 2
  1393. 2
  1394. 2
  1395. 2
  1396. 2
  1397. 2
  1398. 2
  1399. 2
  1400. 2
  1401. 2
  1402. 2
  1403. 2
  1404. 2
  1405. 2
  1406. 2
  1407. 2
  1408. 2
  1409. 2
  1410. 2
  1411. 2
  1412. 2
  1413. 2
  1414. 2
  1415. 2
  1416. 2
  1417. 2
  1418. 2
  1419. 2
  1420. 2
  1421. 2
  1422. 2
  1423. 2
  1424. 2
  1425. 2
  1426. 2
  1427. 2
  1428. 2
  1429. 2
  1430. 2
  1431. 2
  1432. 2
  1433. 2
  1434. 2
  1435. 2
  1436. 2
  1437. 2
  1438. 2
  1439. 2
  1440. 2
  1441. 2
  1442. 2
  1443. 2
  1444. 2
  1445. 2
  1446. 2
  1447. 2
  1448. 2
  1449. 2
  1450. 2
  1451. 2
  1452. 2
  1453. 2
  1454. 2
  1455. 2
  1456. 2
  1457. 2
  1458. 2
  1459. 2
  1460. 2
  1461. 2
  1462. 2
  1463. 2
  1464. 2
  1465. 2
  1466. 2
  1467. 2
  1468. 2
  1469. 2
  1470. 2
  1471. 2
  1472. 2
  1473. 2
  1474. 2
  1475. 2
  1476. 2
  1477. 2
  1478. 2
  1479. 2
  1480. 2
  1481. 2
  1482. 2
  1483. 2
  1484. 2
  1485. 2
  1486. 2
  1487. 2
  1488. 2
  1489. 2
  1490. 2
  1491. 2
  1492. 2
  1493. 2
  1494. 2
  1495. 2
  1496. 2
  1497. 2
  1498. 2
  1499. 2
  1500. 2
  1501. 2
  1502. 2
  1503. 2
  1504. 2
  1505. 2
  1506. 2
  1507. 2
  1508. 2
  1509. 2
  1510. 2
  1511. 2
  1512. 2
  1513. 2
  1514. 2
  1515. 2
  1516. 2
  1517. 2
  1518. 2
  1519. 2
  1520. 2
  1521. 2
  1522. 2
  1523. 2
  1524. 2
  1525. 2
  1526. 2
  1527. 2
  1528. 2
  1529. 2
  1530. 2
  1531. 2
  1532. 2
  1533. 2
  1534. 2
  1535. 2
  1536. 2
  1537. 2
  1538. 2
  1539. 2
  1540. 2
  1541. 2
  1542. 2
  1543. 2
  1544. 2
  1545. 2
  1546. 2
  1547. 2
  1548. 2
  1549. 2
  1550. 2
  1551. 2
  1552. 2
  1553. 2
  1554. 2
  1555. 2
  1556. 2
  1557. 2
  1558. 2
  1559. 2
  1560. 2
  1561. 2
  1562. 2
  1563. 2
  1564. 2
  1565. 2
  1566. 2
  1567. 2
  1568. 2
  1569. 2
  1570. 2
  1571. 2
  1572. 2
  1573. 2
  1574. 2
  1575. 2
  1576. 2
  1577. 2
  1578. 2
  1579. 2
  1580. 2
  1581. 2
  1582. 2
  1583. 2
  1584. 2
  1585. 2
  1586. 2
  1587. 2
  1588. 2
  1589. 2
  1590. 2
  1591. 2
  1592. 2
  1593. 2
  1594. 2
  1595. 2
  1596. 2
  1597. 2
  1598. 2
  1599. 2
  1600. 2
  1601. 2
  1602. 2
  1603. 2
  1604. 2
  1605. 2
  1606. 2
  1607. 2
  1608. 2
  1609. 2
  1610. 2
  1611. 2
  1612. 2
  1613. 2
  1614. 2
  1615. 2
  1616. 2
  1617. 2
  1618. 2
  1619. 2
  1620. 2
  1621. 2
  1622. 2
  1623. 2
  1624. 2
  1625. 2
  1626. 2
  1627. 2
  1628. 2
  1629. 2
  1630. 2
  1631. 2
  1632. 2
  1633. 2
  1634. 2
  1635. 2
  1636. 2
  1637. 2
  1638. 2
  1639. 2
  1640. 2
  1641. 2
  1642. 2
  1643. 2
  1644. 2
  1645. 2
  1646. 2
  1647. 2
  1648. 2
  1649. 2
  1650. 2
  1651. 2
  1652. 2
  1653. 2
  1654. 2
  1655. 2
  1656. 2
  1657. 2
  1658. 2
  1659. 2
  1660. 2
  1661. 2
  1662. 2
  1663. 2
  1664. 2
  1665. 2
  1666. 2
  1667. 2
  1668. 2
  1669. 2
  1670. 2
  1671. 2
  1672. 2
  1673. 2
  1674. 2
  1675. 2
  1676. 2
  1677. 2
  1678. 2
  1679. 2
  1680. 2
  1681. 2
  1682. 2
  1683. 2
  1684. 2
  1685. 2
  1686. 2
  1687. 2
  1688. 2
  1689. 2
  1690. 2
  1691. 2
  1692. 2
  1693. 2
  1694. 2
  1695. 2
  1696. 2
  1697. 2
  1698. 2
  1699. 2
  1700. 2
  1701. 2
  1702. 2
  1703. 2
  1704. 2
  1705. 2
  1706. 2
  1707. 2
  1708. 2
  1709. 2
  1710. 2
  1711. 2
  1712. 2
  1713. 1
  1714. 1
  1715. 1
  1716. Hey Peter I hope you are having a good weekend. I would like to apologize for insulting you in earlier posts. It was uncalled for and unjustified. So I apologize. Hopefully you can see your way to accepting it. Let us talk about the solar system. Have you looked closely at the moon? It is covered in craters. The moon is has been readily bombarded by asteroids and other space debris for billions of years. If you look at the surface of the earth, there are craters EVERYWHERE. The Earth has been hit by many asteroids over it's life. We are constantly being bombarded by stuff from space. Shooting stars are meteorites burning up in the atmosphere. Next we will talk about Jupiter it is called the solar systems vacuum cleaner. It's immense gravity well has been sucking up space debris and in a way shielding earth. Stars do collide, however when you are talking about almost infinite space for objects to move around in, collisions are rare. However our galaxy and the Andromeda galaxy are on a collision course. Way in the future the two galaxies will collide, merge and become one. A few stars are bound to collide than. Let us talk about comets, asteroids, and other bodies that move through space. What is Newton's third law? For every action there is a equal and opposite reaction. What you failed to account for Peter is gravitational pull on objects from other celestial bodies. That till change the flight path of objects moving in space. That is why you have asteroids, comets, and other bodies that move through space in all different directions. HEHEHEHEHE You only thought you had me Sir.
    1
  1717. 1
  1718. 1
  1719. 1
  1720. 1
  1721. 1
  1722. 1
  1723. 1
  1724. 1
  1725. 1
  1726. 1
  1727. 1
  1728. 1
  1729. 1
  1730. 1
  1731. 1
  1732. 1
  1733. 1
  1734. 1
  1735. 1
  1736. 1
  1737. 1
  1738. 1
  1739. I will also address your ignorant statement on WTC 7. WTC Building 7 appears to have suffered significant damage at some point after the WTC towers had collapsed, according to FIREFIGHTERS AT THE SCENE. Firefighter Butch Brandies tells other firefighters that nobody is to go into Building 7 because of creaking and noises coming out of there. According to Deputy Chief Peter Hayden, there is a bulge in the southwest corner of the building between floors 10 and 13. Battalion Chief John Norman later recalls, "At the edge of the south face you could see that it was very heavily damaged." Deputy Chief Nick Visconti also later recalls recounts, "A big chunk of the lower floors had been taken out on the Vesey Street side." Captain Chris Boyle recalls, "On the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors." The area around WTC Building 7 is evacuated at this time. New York fire department chief officers, who have surveyed the building, have determined it is in danger of collapsing. Several senior firefighters have described this decision-making process. According to fire chief Daniel Nigro, "The biggest decision we had to make was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged building [WTC Building 7]. A number of fire offices and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt." Here is a link to a paper written by Ramon Gilsanz and Willa Ng, structural and civil engineers. After analyzing the blueprints of WTC 7, they illustrate how a design flaw in the building left it vulnerable to damage. They illustrate how everything above the 8th floor was supported by only three columns and that the loss of a single column and the inability of the other two columns to absorb the redistributed load led to the collapse of building 7. http://www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf Just like every other 9/11 Conspiratard I can tell you have done ZERO RESEARCH into the topic. You think watching Loose Change and other bullshit conspiracy videos makes you a expert. You would be wrong.
    1
  1740. 1
  1741. 1
  1742. 1
  1743. 1
  1744. 1
  1745. 1
  1746. 1
  1747. 1
  1748. @C Landis - I could have sworn I responded to this already but I do not see it so here we go. #1 Here is a Airbus doing in excess of 400 knots at 50 feet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz_PgFhSw48 These aircraft can and do fly that fast at sea level. They do not under normal operating conditions for safety reasons. #2 You're claim that the aircraft defied Newton's laws when impacting the building. You are incorrect again, may I suggest you learn about the complex physics involved in a inelastic collision in which momentum is not conserved. Here is a video demonstrating those physics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc-zmb3jAgo When two objects collide the ONLY thing that matters in energy. If a less dense object possesses enough energy, it will penetrate a much denser object. #3 You claim there were zero black boxes found. Again you are incorrect. They did recover the black boxes from the Pentagon and Shanksville. They never found the boxes in New York because they were buried in over a million tons of debris. Those boxes were probably there but where scooped up in the wreckage. #4 You claim the towers fell at near free fall speed. Shockingly again you are incorrect. Here is a video that times the collapse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4 It clearly shows that there was resistance given by each floor just not enough to arrest the collapse. Here is a second video showing the Vernaige method of building demolition. It uses no explosives, just the buildings mass to create a pancake collapse just like we see on 9/11. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYuBdR3CvY4 As further evidence that shows you're free fall claim is 100% wrong look at this photo of the building during collapse. Look at the debris that is ACTUALLY IN FREE FALL. Notice how it has raced pass the collapse zone by 30 or more stories in a matter of seconds. http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/WTC-collapse.jpg Hopefully you will see what I am showing you is evidence of how just like with flat Earth conspiracy, 9/11 conspiracy is all based on bogus claims. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of unanswered questions about 9/11. It is just that none of them involve fake planes, controlled demolition, or any of the multitude of crazy theories that 9/11 twoofers keep putting out there.
    1
  1749. 1
  1750. 1
  1751. 1
  1752. 1
  1753. 1
  1754. 1
  1755. 1
  1756. 1
  1757. 1
  1758. 1
  1759. 1
  1760. 1
  1761. 1
  1762. 1
  1763. 1
  1764. 1
  1765. 1
  1766. 1
  1767. 1
  1768. 1
  1769. 1
  1770. 1
  1771. 1
  1772. 1
  1773. 1
  1774. 1
  1775. 1
  1776. 1
  1777. 1
  1778. 1
  1779. 1
  1780. 1
  1781. 1
  1782. 1
  1783. 1
  1784. 1
  1785. 1
  1786. 1
  1787. 1
  1788. 1
  1789. 1
  1790. 1
  1791. 1
  1792. 1
  1793. 1
  1794. 1
  1795. 1
  1796. 1
  1797. 1
  1798. 1
  1799. 1
  1800. 1
  1801. 1
  1802. 1
  1803. 1
  1804. 1
  1805. 1
  1806. 1
  1807. 1
  1808. 1
  1809. 1
  1810. 1
  1811. 1
  1812. 1
  1813. 1
  1814. 1
  1815. 1
  1816. 1
  1817. 1
  1818. 1
  1819. 1
  1820. 1
  1821. 1
  1822. 1
  1823. 1
  1824. 1
  1825. 1
  1826. 1
  1827. 1
  1828. 1
  1829. 1
  1830. 1
  1831. 1
  1832. 1
  1833. 1
  1834. 1
  1835. 1
  1836. 1
  1837. 1
  1838. 1
  1839. 1
  1840. 1
  1841. 1
  1842. 1
  1843. 1
  1844. 1
  1845. 1
  1846. 1
  1847. 1
  1848. 1
  1849. 1
  1850. 1
  1851. 1
  1852. 1
  1853. 1
  1854. 1
  1855. 1
  1856. 1
  1857. 1
  1858. 1
  1859. 1
  1860. 1
  1861. 1
  1862. 1
  1863. 1
  1864. 1
  1865. 1
  1866. 1
  1867. 1
  1868. 1
  1869. 1
  1870. 1
  1871. 1
  1872. 1
  1873. 1
  1874. 1
  1875. 1
  1876. 1
  1877. 1
  1878. 1
  1879. 1
  1880. 1
  1881. 1
  1882. 1
  1883. 1
  1884. 1
  1885. 1
  1886. 1
  1887. 1
  1888. 1
  1889. 1
  1890. 1
  1891. 1
  1892. 1
  1893. 1
  1894. 1
  1895. 1
  1896. 1
  1897. 1
  1898. 1
  1899. 1
  1900. 1
  1901. 1
  1902. 1
  1903. 1
  1904. 1
  1905. 1
  1906. 1
  1907. 1
  1908. 1
  1909. 1
  1910. 1
  1911. 1
  1912. 1
  1913. 1
  1914. 1
  1915. 1
  1916. 1
  1917. 1
  1918. 1
  1919. 1
  1920. 1
  1921. 1
  1922. 1
  1923. 1
  1924. 1
  1925. 1
  1926. 1
  1927. 1
  1928. 1
  1929. 1
  1930. 1
  1931. 1
  1932. 1
  1933. 1
  1934. 1
  1935. 1
  1936. 1
  1937. When will people wake up and realize the United States Government defrauded the American people? There was NEVER an intent or will to defeat the Taliban. The only goal was to hunker down and do the BARE MINIMUM required to keep the war going indefinitely/ In 20 YEARS we lost 2372 soldiers. From 2001 to 2021 it was more than twice as dangerous to live in Chicago than it was being deployed to a war. If you compare how small Chicago is to the entire country of Afghanistan than you could say it was more than 100x more dangerous to live in the economically disadvantaged areas of Chicago than it was to fight in the War in Afghanistan. Desert Storm considered the easiest war in history had nearly 20% of the casualties of the ENTIRE 20 year Afgan war in 100 hours. This was about ONE thing, MONEY. By dragging this thing out without ever trying to win it the Federal Government and the companies who sell weapons saddled us with a 2.3 TRILLION tax liability. In the war on terror the Federal Government has saddled all of us with a 6.4 TRILLION dollar tax liability. Our Government was supposed to be For The People, we need to TAKE power from the Federal Government because they have been shown to be totally corrupted by corporate interests or incompetent. Either way it doesn't bode well for us. I propose that EVERYONE reach out to their congressmen and demand a amendment to the constitution. In this amendment it should state that in order to deploy US military forces in combat ANYWHERE for more than 30 days there must be a national referendum where THE PEOPLE of the United States will vote if we want our sons and daughters to be sent in harms way. How long should we continue to send our sons and daughters to fight in wars to enrich the pockets of the politicians and the weapons manufacturers? If you lost a son or daughter in Iraq or Afghanistan, I am sorry for your loss but they died for a lie. They were not defending freedom or democracy. They were defending the bottom lines of Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon, etc and the politicians they bribe to lookout for their interests, not yours.
    1
  1938. 1
  1939. 1
  1940. 1
  1941. 1
  1942. 1
  1943. 1
  1944. 1
  1945. 1
  1946. 1
  1947. 1
  1948. 1
  1949. 1
  1950. 1
  1951. 1
  1952. 1
  1953. 1
  1954. 1
  1955. 1
  1956. 1
  1957. 1
  1958. 1
  1959. 1
  1960. 1
  1961. 1
  1962. 1
  1963. 1
  1964. 1
  1965. 1
  1966. 1
  1967. 1
  1968. 1
  1969. 1
  1970. 1
  1971. 1
  1972. 1
  1973. 1
  1974. 1
  1975. 1
  1976. 1
  1977. 1
  1978. 1
  1979. 1
  1980. 1
  1981. 1
  1982. 1
  1983. 1
  1984. 1
  1985. 1
  1986. 1
  1987. 1
  1988. 1
  1989. 1
  1990. 1
  1991. 1
  1992. 1
  1993. 1
  1994. 1
  1995. 1
  1996. 1
  1997. 1
  1998. 1
  1999. 1
  2000. 1
  2001. 1
  2002. 1
  2003. 1
  2004. 1
  2005. 1
  2006. 1
  2007. 1
  2008. 1
  2009. 1
  2010. 1
  2011. 1
  2012. 1
  2013. 1
  2014. 1
  2015. 1
  2016. 1
  2017. 1
  2018. 1
  2019. 1
  2020. 1
  2021. 1
  2022. 1
  2023. 1
  2024. 1
  2025. 1
  2026. 1
  2027. 1
  2028. 1
  2029. 1
  2030. 1
  2031. 1
  2032. 1
  2033. 1
  2034. 1
  2035. 1
  2036. 1
  2037. 1
  2038. 1
  2039. 1
  2040. 1
  2041. 1
  2042. 1
  2043. 1
  2044. 1
  2045. 1
  2046. 1
  2047. 1
  2048. 1
  2049. 1
  2050. 1
  2051. 1
  2052. 1
  2053. 1
  2054. 1
  2055. 1
  2056. 1
  2057. 1
  2058. 1
  2059. 1
  2060. 1
  2061. 1
  2062. 1
  2063. 1
  2064. 1
  2065. 1
  2066. 1
  2067. 1
  2068. 1
  2069. 1
  2070. 1
  2071. 1
  2072. 1
  2073. 1
  2074. 1
  2075. 1
  2076. 1
  2077. 1
  2078. 1
  2079. 1
  2080. 1
  2081. 1
  2082. 1
  2083. 1
  2084. 1
  2085. 1
  2086. 1
  2087. 1
  2088. 1
  2089. 1
  2090. 1
  2091. 1
  2092. 1
  2093. 1
  2094. 1
  2095. 1
  2096. 1
  2097. 1
  2098. 1
  2099. 1
  2100. 1
  2101. 1
  2102. 1
  2103. 1
  2104. 1
  2105. 1
  2106. 1
  2107. 1
  2108. 1
  2109. 1
  2110. 1
  2111. 1
  2112. 1
  2113. 1
  2114. 1
  2115. 1
  2116. 1
  2117. 1
  2118. 1
  2119. 1
  2120. 1
  2121. 1
  2122. 1
  2123. 1
  2124. 1
  2125. 1
  2126. 1
  2127. 1
  2128. 1
  2129. 1
  2130. 1
  2131. 1
  2132. 1
  2133. 1
  2134. 1
  2135. 1
  2136. 1
  2137. 1
  2138. 1
  2139. 1
  2140. 1
  2141. 1
  2142. 1
  2143. 1
  2144. 1
  2145. 1
  2146. 1
  2147. 1
  2148. 1
  2149. 1
  2150. 1
  2151. 1
  2152. 1
  2153. 1
  2154. 1
  2155. 1
  2156. 1
  2157. 1
  2158. 1
  2159. 1
  2160. 1
  2161. 1
  2162. 1
  2163. 1
  2164. 1
  2165. 1
  2166. 1
  2167. 1
  2168. 1
  2169. 1
  2170. 1
  2171. 1
  2172. 1
  2173. 1
  2174. 1
  2175. 1
  2176. 1
  2177. 1
  2178. 1
  2179. 1
  2180. 1
  2181. 1
  2182. 1
  2183. 1
  2184. 1
  2185. 1
  2186. 1
  2187. 1
  2188. 1
  2189. 1
  2190. 1
  2191. 1
  2192. 1
  2193. 1
  2194. 1
  2195. 1
  2196. 1
  2197. 1
  2198. 1
  2199. 1
  2200. 1
  2201. 1
  2202. 1
  2203. 1
  2204. 1
  2205. 1
  2206. 1
  2207. 1
  2208. 1
  2209. 1
  2210. 1
  2211. 1
  2212. 1
  2213. 1
  2214. 1
  2215. 1
  2216. 1
  2217. 1
  2218. 1
  2219. 1
  2220. 1
  2221. 1
  2222. 1
  2223. 1
  2224. 1
  2225. 1
  2226. 1
  2227. 1
  2228. 1
  2229. 1
  2230. 1
  2231. 1
  2232. 1
  2233. 1
  2234. 1
  2235. 1
  2236. 1
  2237. 1
  2238. 1
  2239. 1
  2240. 1
  2241. 1
  2242. 1
  2243. 1
  2244. 1
  2245. 1
  2246. 1
  2247. 1
  2248. 1
  2249. The problem is you are generalizing when it comes to the breed. Dogs are just like people and they have unique personalities. While one pit might be the sweetest dog ever the next could be highly aggressive and dangerous. I had a female pit that was raised from a puppy with two other dogs, two cats, I took her EVERYWHERE with me and socialized the crap out of her. I never hit her or even had to discipline her because my Jack Russell Terrier and Australian Shepherd showed her the ropes. Growing up she was the sweetest dog ever. Once she because an adult dog a sinister side surfaced where any new dog she met she would take a dominant stance and declare she was alpha. As long as that dog acknowledged her as alpha they were fine. If they didn't she would attack without warning. I had a large 1 acre fenced in back yard with some wooded areas, she would catch and kill opossums, racoons, squirrels, the neighbors cats, if it was in our back yard and she could catch it she would kill it. One of my neighbors had two west highland terriers that were always barking at her on their side of the fence. She never seemed to pay them much attention, I got home from work one day and she had used her massive head to push on the chain link fence and stretch it out enough to where she could crawl under it. She went into their yard looking for those dogs and she killed them both and literally tore their bodies to shreds. Around my wife and I, our other two dogs and cats she was as sweet a dog as you could imagine. Unsupervised.....she was dangerous.
    1
  2250. 1
  2251. 1
  2252. 1
  2253. 1
  2254. 1
  2255. 1
  2256. 1
  2257. 1
  2258. 1
  2259. 1
  2260. 1
  2261. 1
  2262. 1
  2263. 1
  2264. 1
  2265. 1
  2266. 1
  2267. 1
  2268. 1
  2269. 1
  2270. 1
  2271. 1
  2272. 1
  2273. 1
  2274. 1
  2275. 1
  2276. 1
  2277. 1
  2278. 1
  2279. 1
  2280. 1
  2281. 1
  2282. 1
  2283. 1
  2284. 1
  2285. 1
  2286. 1
  2287. 1
  2288. 1
  2289. 1
  2290. 1
  2291. 1
  2292. 1
  2293. 1
  2294. 1
  2295. 1
  2296. 1
  2297. 1
  2298. 1
  2299.  @scionofafrica  "The most authoritative refutation of van Sertima was in the journal Current Anthropology by Haslip-Viera et al. (1997) "Robbing Native American Cultures: van Sertima's Afrocentricity and the Olmecs." Aside from going through several of van Sertima's points and showing how they are blatantly wrong, the authors specifically note that rejecting the "Western" narrative to insert Africans into Mesoamerican history, van Sertima is engaging in the same form of racism he purports to be combating. Only now it is Americans having their history erased by Africans, instead of Africans having their history erased by Europeans. Van Sertima makes a couple of points, all of which are have no actual evidence and are often self-contradictory. The Nubian dominated 25th Dynasty of Egypt visited the Americas to jump start Mesoamerican civilization The Olmecs in fact predate the 25th dynasty, and have clear precursors within Mesoamerica, with no evidence of outside influence. Mesoamerican pyramids start to appear before that Dynasty, and in form and function are distinct from Egyptian pyramids. Olmec colossal heads depict Africans The heads most resemble the indigenous people of Gulf Coast. They certainly do not resemble East Africans and the heads depict features (such as epicanthic folds) not found in the African populations van Sertima claims visited the Americas. Afro-Eurasian plants in the Americas are evidence of contact The presence of these plants is better explained by natural diffusion; show up thousands of years before van Sertima's purported contact; and some even show evidence of being cultivated in the Americas before cultivation in the "Old World." " Chinese people came before Columbus, Vikings came before Columbus, and Former Asians across the Bering Straight came before Columbus. Stop trying to steal other peoples history and culture.
    1
  2300. 1
  2301. 1
  2302. 1
  2303. 1
  2304. 1
  2305. 1
  2306. 1
  2307. 1
  2308. 1
  2309. 1
  2310. 1
  2311. 1
  2312. 1
  2313. 1
  2314. 1
  2315. 1
  2316. 1
  2317. 1
  2318. 1
  2319. 1
  2320. 1
  2321. 1
  2322. 1
  2323. 1
  2324. 1
  2325. 1
  2326. 1
  2327. 1
  2328. 1
  2329. 1
  2330. 1
  2331. 1
  2332. 1
  2333. 1
  2334. 1
  2335. 1
  2336. 1
  2337. 1
  2338. 1
  2339. 1
  2340. 1
  2341. 1
  2342. 1
  2343. 1
  2344. 1
  2345. 1
  2346. 1
  2347. 1
  2348. 1
  2349. 1
  2350. 1
  2351. 1
  2352. 1
  2353. 1
  2354. 1
  2355. 1
  2356. 1
  2357. 1
  2358. 1
  2359. 1
  2360.  @theworldaccordingtochris4370  I am a veteran of the USS Iowa, I served as a gunners mate in 16 inch turret one, so I know a bit about what I am talking about. The Bismarck is perhaps the most overrated ship in HISTORY. The Iowa would have dispatched her in little time. The Iowa's armor scheme was significantly better than the Bismarck's obsolete WW1 layout. The Iowa's armor belt was designed to offer an immunity zone against 2250 pound AP shells between 18,000 and 30,000 yards. The Bismarck's AP shell weighed 1,764 pounds and It would have to get really close to the Iowa in order to penetrate her belt. The Bismarck's antiquated armor scheme meant she had poor deck armor and was vulnerable to plunging fire. At ranges of 18,000 to 30,000 yards the Iowa's 2700 pound AP shells would have opened up Bismarck like a can opener. Even at ranges of 35,000 yards the 2700 pound AP shell of the Iowas could penetrate 329mm of armor, enough to penetrate the Bismarcks 320mm belt armor. The Iowa's armor belt 12.1 inches (307 mm) thick mounted on 0.875-inch (22.2 mm) STS backing plate; the armor belt is sloped at 19 degrees, equivalent to 17.3 in (439 mm) of vertical class B armor at 19,000 yards. At 19,000 yards the Bismarcks 1,764 pound AP shell could penetrate 419mm of armor so the Bismarck would have to get to near point blank range to penetrate the Iowa's main belt, her long range plunging fire would have been ineffective against the Iowa's far superior deck armor scheme. Lastly the Iowa's fire control was LIGHT YEARS better than the Bismarck's. The fire control computer on the Iowa once it achieved a firing solution, it maintained it in real time, the Iowa could do figure 8's and still pour the most accurate battleship fire the world had ever seen. The Bismarcks fire control radar provided basic ranging information, that is it. If the Bismarck changed course or speed they would have to start over with ranging salvos all over again. The Iowa would sit at about 23,000 yards and pound the Bismarck into dust with the Bismarck unable to do ANYTHING about it. In Truth the South Dakota class battleships would have eaten the Bismarck alive a more even match would have been the North Carolina Class against the Bismarck.
    1
  2361. 1
  2362. 1
  2363. 1
  2364. 1
  2365. 1
  2366. 1
  2367. 1
  2368.  @chrisg7336  If you would bother to do any research yourself you would discover there have been plenty of reports and papers written on WTC-7. While it is true that it was not hit by an aircraft it wasn't the ONLY building destroyed by debris from the collapse of Towers 1&2. In fact WTC 3, 5, 6, 7, the Verizon Building, the Bankers Trust building, a Church were all destroyed or so heavily damaged from falling debris that they had to be torn down. I bet you are unaware that WTC-7 was built around an existing building, the Con/ED power substation meaning it did not have a full foundation and support system like almost EVERY other building designed. I bet you are unaware that the ENTIRE vertical load above the 8th floor was supported by only THREE columns. I bet you are unaware that the loss of a SINGLE column would start a progressive collapse that could not be avoided. I bet you are unaware that debris from the tower gouged out a 22 story hole in the corner of WTC-7 and compromised the internal support structure. I bet you are unaware that a prominent bulge formed in the SW corner of the building almost immediately after being struck by debris from the towers, a bulge indicating that WTC-7 was heavily compromised and in immediate danger of collapse. I bet you are also unaware that the heavily damaged WTC-7 had unchecked fires raging in the building for 7 hours before the final collapse. Yeah I am willing to bet you are totally unaware or deliberately ignoring it so you can keep parroting 9/11 nonsense you read off a conspiracy web site.
    1
  2369. 1
  2370. 1
  2371. 1
  2372. 1
  2373. 1
  2374. 1
  2375. 1
  2376. 1
  2377. 1
  2378. 1
  2379. 1
  2380. 1
  2381. 1
  2382. 1
  2383. 1
  2384. 1
  2385. 1
  2386. 1
  2387. 1
  2388. 1
  2389. 1
  2390. 1
  2391. 1
  2392. 1
  2393. 1
  2394. 1
  2395. 1
  2396. 1
  2397. 1
  2398. 1
  2399. 1
  2400. 1
  2401. 1
  2402. 1
  2403.  @1369Stiles  Here is an article about ACL injuries and how female athletes are 2 to 8 times more likely to suffer an injury compared to their male counterparts. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/04/140430091418.htm#:~:text=Female%20athletes%20who%20play%20basketball,sports%2C%20said%20orthopaedic%20surgeon%20Dr. It is science, humping 120 pounds of equipment through the bush for 15 miles is very hard on the body. If female soldiers COST MORE MONEY than male soldiers due to increased medical care coverage it does not make sense. As far as unit dynamics the gentlemen has a point. In my class at the NCO academy I was the only Infantry guy so I was in charge in the field. I treated the three female soldiers in my platoon as soldiers, not females and the other men were throwing hissy fits because I wasn't giving them special treatment. Specifically I had a female soldier get bit in the face by a centipede, in Hawaii they have huge centipedes and it hurts like a SOB when you get bit. It happens all the time in the infantry and you suck it up and drive on. When she got bit, she went into hysterics. I stopped the platoon and put everyone out on security while I assed the situation. The guys were leaving their positions and coming over to make sure she was alright, I practically had to kick them in the ass to get them to go back out and pull security. She was really pretty and she flirted a lot with the guys in the platoon so this was to be expected. We had a mission to accomplish so I treated her like any other soldier and made her get on her feet and move out. When she tried to beg off claiming she couldn't see, which I know she could. I made her hold onto the back of my LBE and let me guide her through the bush. It was a fiasco and all the men were so mad at me saying I can't treat a girl that way. NEVER would have happened if it was a guy.
    1
  2404. 1
  2405. 1
  2406. 1
  2407. 1
  2408. 1
  2409. 1
  2410. 1
  2411. 1
  2412. 1
  2413. 1
  2414. 1
  2415. 1
  2416. 1
  2417. 1
  2418. 1
  2419. 1
  2420. 1
  2421. 1
  2422. 1
  2423. 1
  2424. 1
  2425. 1
  2426. 1
  2427. 1
  2428. 1
  2429. 1
  2430. 1
  2431. 1
  2432. 1
  2433. 1
  2434. 1
  2435. Riddle me this Flattard.....................In long range Artillery you have to correct for BOTH the curvature of the Earth AND the rotation of the Earth. Here are some links to the US Navy Ordinance and Gunnery fire control Volume two. The first link is a manually computed fire control solution for a 5 inch 38 caliber gun shooting at a target 10,100 yards away. If you will notice under the Trunnion and Curvature section the correction for the curvature of the Earth is entered at 21.5 feet. http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/USNAVY/CHAPTER-17-D.html In this link is a range table for a US Navy 8 inch 55 caliber gun. If you look at pages 449-452 they list the corrections made for the rotation of the Earth AKA the Coriolis Effect. Notice how those values change depending on your latitude. http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/USNAVY/FC-APPENDIX-B-8IN-55.html My experiences as a gunners mate on board the USS Iowa BB61 proves the Earth is round and rotates. In the late 80's we still used the MK-8 Rangekeeper analog fire control computer that was used to control the guns in WW2. While a amazing piece of analog technology it did not have the ability to correct for the Earth's curvature or Rotation in real time. Those corrections had to be entered manually into the computer. We had to do this EVERY time we fired the guns. If we did not our accuracy would be WAY off the mark. Unless someone can provide a reasonable explanation on why we would correct for curvature AND rotation of the Earth with EVERY shot if these things did not exist.
    1
  2436. 1
  2437. 1
  2438. 1
  2439. 1
  2440. 1
  2441. 1
  2442. 1
  2443. 1
  2444. 1
  2445. 1
  2446. 1
  2447. 1
  2448. 1
  2449. 1
  2450. 1
  2451. 1
  2452. 1
  2453. 1
  2454. 1
  2455. 1
  2456. 1
  2457. 1
  2458. 1
  2459. 1
  2460. 1
  2461. 1
  2462. 1
  2463. 1
  2464. 1
  2465. 1
  2466. 1
  2467. 1
  2468. 1
  2469. 1
  2470. 1
  2471. 1
  2472. 1
  2473. 1
  2474. 1
  2475. 1
  2476. 1
  2477. 1
  2478. 1
  2479. 1
  2480. 1
  2481. 1
  2482. 1
  2483. 1
  2484. 1
  2485. 1
  2486. 1
  2487. 1
  2488. 1
  2489. 1
  2490. 1
  2491. 1
  2492. 1
  2493. 1
  2494. 1
  2495. 1
  2496. 1
  2497. 1
  2498. 1
  2499. 1
  2500. 1
  2501. 1
  2502. 1
  2503. 1
  2504. 1
  2505. 1
  2506. 1
  2507. 1
  2508. 1
  2509. LOL The United States would defeat China quite easily. You point to Afghanistan but I counter that the United States didn't WANT to defeat the Taliban. What you don't seem to understand is that the military industrial complex holds tremendous power over here. They own many congressmen and senators outright and what they want is the policy the Government is going to follow. Our campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, terrorism, freedom, WMD's, etc. These campaigns were all about war for profit, there is no money to be made in winning a war the money is in doing the bare minimum in order to keep the conflict going as long as possible and under the radar so the apathetic American public ignores it. Compare Afghanistan to Vietnam, the war in Afghanistan lasted TWICE as long yet we only suffered about 5% of the casualties that we did in Vietnam. It is CLEAR there was very little combat going on in Afghanistan yet we spent over 2 TRILLION dollars there accomplishing NOTHING. Look at when we ACTUALLY fight, in Desert Storm we defeated the Iraqi Army that was combat hardened and fought a war for TEN YEARS against Iran and the American Army defeated them in 100 hours. China would be seal clubbed with little effort in an actual conflict. Also the Russian submarine fleet is TRASH, mostly from YEARS of neglect. Their Sierra II, Victor III, and Akula subs are all hopelessly outmatched by the Virginia and Seawolf class submarines. The Yasen class subs are CLSE in capabilities to the Virginia class submarines but there are only two of them in service.
    1
  2510. 1
  2511. 1
  2512. 1
  2513. 1
  2514. 1
  2515. 1
  2516. 1
  2517. 1
  2518. 1
  2519. 1
  2520. 1
  2521. 1
  2522. 1
  2523. 1
  2524. 1
  2525. 1
  2526. 1
  2527. 1
  2528. 1
  2529. 1
  2530. 1
  2531. 1
  2532. 1
  2533. 1
  2534. 1
  2535. 1
  2536. 1
  2537. 1
  2538. 1
  2539. 1
  2540. 1
  2541. 1
  2542. 1
  2543. 1
  2544. 1
  2545. 1
  2546. 1
  2547. 1
  2548. 1
  2549. 1
  2550. 1
  2551. 1
  2552. 1
  2553. 1
  2554. 1
  2555. 1
  2556. 1
  2557. 1
  2558. 1
  2559. 1
  2560. 1
  2561. 1
  2562. 1
  2563. 1
  2564. 1
  2565. 1
  2566. 1
  2567. 1
  2568. 1
  2569. 1
  2570. 1
  2571. 1
  2572. 1
  2573. 1
  2574. 1
  2575. 1
  2576. 1
  2577. 1
  2578. 1
  2579. 1
  2580. 1
  2581. 1
  2582. 1
  2583. 1
  2584. 1
  2585. 1
  2586. 1
  2587. 1
  2588. 1
  2589. 1
  2590. 1
  2591. 1
  2592. 1
  2593. 1
  2594. 1
  2595. 1
  2596. 1
  2597. 1
  2598. 1
  2599. 1
  2600. 1
  2601. 1
  2602. 1
  2603. 1
  2604. 1
  2605. 1
  2606. 1
  2607. 1
  2608. 1
  2609. 1
  2610. 1
  2611. 1
  2612. 1
  2613. 1
  2614. 1
  2615. 1
  2616. 1
  2617. 1
  2618. 1
  2619. 1
  2620. 1
  2621. 1
  2622. 1
  2623. 1
  2624. 1
  2625. 1
  2626. 1
  2627. 1
  2628. 1
  2629. 1
  2630. 1
  2631. 1
  2632. 1
  2633. 1
  2634. 1
  2635. 1
  2636. 1
  2637. 1
  2638. 1
  2639. 1
  2640. 1
  2641. 1
  2642. 1
  2643. 1
  2644. 1
  2645. 1
  2646. 1
  2647. 1
  2648. 1
  2649. 1
  2650. 1
  2651. 1
  2652. 1
  2653. 1
  2654. 1
  2655. 1
  2656. 1
  2657. 1
  2658. 1
  2659. 1
  2660. 1
  2661. 1
  2662. 1
  2663. 1
  2664. 1
  2665. 1
  2666. 1
  2667. 1
  2668. 1
  2669. 1
  2670. 1
  2671. 1
  2672. 1
  2673. 1
  2674. 1
  2675. 1
  2676. 1
  2677. 1
  2678. 1
  2679. 1
  2680. 1
  2681. 1
  2682. 1
  2683. 1
  2684. 1
  2685. 1
  2686. 1
  2687. 1
  2688. 1
  2689. 1
  2690. 1
  2691. 1
  2692. 1
  2693. 1
  2694. 1
  2695. 1
  2696. 1
  2697. 1
  2698. 1
  2699. 1
  2700. 1
  2701. 1
  2702. 1
  2703. 1
  2704. 1
  2705. 1
  2706. 1
  2707. 1
  2708. 1
  2709. 1
  2710. 1
  2711. 1
  2712. 1
  2713. 1
  2714. 1
  2715. 1
  2716. 1
  2717. 1
  2718. 1
  2719. 1
  2720. 1
  2721. 1
  2722. 1
  2723. 1
  2724. 1
  2725. 1
  2726. 1
  2727. 1
  2728. 1
  2729. 1
  2730. 1
  2731. 1
  2732. 1
  2733. 1
  2734. 1
  2735. 1
  2736. 1
  2737. 1
  2738. 1
  2739. 1
  2740. 1
  2741. 1
  2742. 1
  2743. 1
  2744. 1
  2745. 1
  2746. 1
  2747. 1
  2748. 1
  2749. 1
  2750. 1
  2751. 1
  2752. 1
  2753. 1
  2754. 1
  2755. 1
  2756. 1
  2757. Sir, please do not comment on things you have no idea what you are talking about. I am a veteran of the USS Iowa and I was there that day. Clay Hartwig was my best friend and the silly notion that he had something to do with it was 100% fabricated by the NIS. First Clay was the primer man in the center gun of turret two that day, he was no where near the powder bags. Second I had Breakfast with him that morning, he was not depressed, he was in good spirits and was excited about his upcoming change of duty station. Third the entire story about Clay having made advances towards a sailor and having those feelings rebuked is 100% made up, I know this because I was the sailor Clay was supposed to have made advances too. I was interrogated by the NIS for hours on end, days turned into weeks, and eventually into months. The NIS broke me in their interrogations and I signed a false confession just to get them to leave me alone. The very next day I told them it was bullshit and that it was not true but they leaked that confession to the press anyways. I remember the first time I was questioned by the NIS the very first thing they said was we know Clay did it. That was before any of the testing, investigation, anything. The NIS was looking to blame someone for the explosion and they chose Clay because he had his SGLI naming another sailor as his beneficiary that was it. Lastly GMG2 Lawrence who was the gun captain that day could be heard communicating with main plot, he kept telling them they were not ready and that they had a problem that they were trying to correct. Petty Officer Hanyecz was looking into the center gun room from the booth through the porthole said oh my god I see a flash. Seconds later he yelled out to Petty Officer Mortenson in our turret....Mort.....Mort and that was it. There was no sabotage involved at all. It was an accidental over ram of the powder bags and it set one of them off.
    1
  2758. 1
  2759. 1
  2760. 1
  2761. 1
  2762. 1
  2763. 1
  2764. 1
  2765. 1
  2766. 1
  2767. 1
  2768. 1
  2769. 1
  2770. 1
  2771. 1
  2772. 1
  2773. 1
  2774. 1
  2775. 1
  2776. 1
  2777. 1
  2778. 1
  2779. 1
  2780. 1
  2781. 1
  2782. 1
  2783. 1
  2784. 1
  2785. 1
  2786. 1
  2787. 1
  2788. 1
  2789. 1
  2790. 1
  2791. 1
  2792. 1
  2793. 1
  2794. 1
  2795. 1
  2796. Something you didn't touch on is that the BIGGEST difference between the B-21 and the B2 is that the B-21 is built on an open architecture system compared to a closed proprietary system like in the B-2. What does that mean exactly, it means that developing capabilities for this aircraft are going to be open to the entire defense industry, resulting in competition. Competition brings better products for reduced costs. Because it is open architecture, systems can be developed rapidly and injected into the aircraft in very short time periods. You made mention of how an iPhone has more computing power than a B-2, the open architecture system in the B-21 means that newer and faster processors can constantly be deployed, keeping the B-21 current. This breaks the strangle hold a single defense contractor like Northrop can have over a specific weapon system and greatly reduces the costs associated with that system. Also, while unrelated, I predict that the NGAD is going to look like a 2/3 scale version of the B-21 with the emphasis on sensor fusion, payload and range while maneuverability is something barely considered. With the ability of modern missiles for high off bore sight and lock on after launch capability, the day of the dogfight is over. The NGAD I am predicting will carry no less than twenty air-to-air missiles, have a range of at least 4,000 miles and the ability to super cruise at least MACH 1.8 for HOURS. All with a stealth profile better than the F-22, especially against low frequency radars.
    1
  2797. 1
  2798. 1
  2799. 1
  2800. 1
  2801. 1
  2802. 1
  2803. 1
  2804. 1
  2805. 1
  2806. 1
  2807. 1
  2808. 1
  2809. 1
  2810. 1
  2811. 1
  2812. 1
  2813. 1
  2814. 1
  2815. 1
  2816. 1
  2817. 1
  2818. 1
  2819. 1
  2820. 1
  2821. 1
  2822. 1
  2823. 1
  2824. 1
  2825. 1
  2826. 1
  2827. 1
  2828. 1
  2829. 1
  2830. 1
  2831. 1
  2832. 1
  2833. 1
  2834. 1
  2835. 1
  2836. 1
  2837. 1
  2838. 1
  2839. 1
  2840. 1
  2841. 1
  2842. 1
  2843. 1
  2844. 1
  2845. 1
  2846. 1
  2847. 1
  2848. 1
  2849. 1
  2850. 1
  2851. 1
  2852. 1
  2853. 1
  2854. 1
  2855. 1
  2856. 1
  2857. 1
  2858. 1
  2859. 1
  2860. 1
  2861. 1
  2862. 1
  2863. 1
  2864. 1
  2865. 1
  2866. 1
  2867. 1
  2868. 1
  2869. 1
  2870. 1
  2871. 1
  2872. 1
  2873. 1
  2874. 1
  2875. 1
  2876. 1
  2877. 1
  2878. 1
  2879. 1
  2880. 1
  2881. 1
  2882. 1
  2883. 1
  2884. 1
  2885. 1
  2886. 1
  2887. 1
  2888. 1
  2889. 1
  2890. 1
  2891. 1
  2892. 1
  2893. 1
  2894. 1
  2895. 1
  2896. 1
  2897. 1
  2898. 1
  2899. 1
  2900. 1
  2901. 1
  2902. 1
  2903. 1
  2904. 1
  2905. 1
  2906. 1
  2907. 1
  2908. 1
  2909. 1
  2910. 1
  2911. 1
  2912. 1
  2913. 1
  2914. 1
  2915. 1
  2916. 1
  2917. 1
  2918. 1
  2919. 1
  2920. 1
  2921. 1
  2922. 1
  2923. 1
  2924. 1
  2925. 1
  2926. 1
  2927. 1
  2928. 1
  2929. 1
  2930. 1
  2931. 1
  2932. 1
  2933. 1
  2934. 1
  2935. 1
  2936. 1
  2937. 1
  2938. 1
  2939. 1
  2940. 1
  2941. 1
  2942. 1
  2943. 1
  2944. 1
  2945. 1
  2946. 1
  2947. 1
  2948. 1
  2949. 1
  2950. 1
  2951. 1
  2952. 1
  2953. 1
  2954. 1
  2955. 1
  2956. 1
  2957. 1
  2958. 1
  2959. 1
  2960. 1
  2961. 1
  2962. 1
  2963. 1
  2964. 1
  2965. 1
  2966. 1
  2967. 1
  2968. 1
  2969. 1
  2970. 1
  2971. 1
  2972. 1
  2973. 1
  2974. 1
  2975. 1
  2976. 1
  2977. 1
  2978. 1
  2979. 1
  2980. 1
  2981. 1
  2982. 1
  2983. 1
  2984. 1
  2985. 1
  2986. 1
  2987. 1
  2988. 1
  2989. 1
  2990. 1
  2991. 1
  2992. 1
  2993. 1
  2994. 1
  2995. 1
  2996. 1
  2997. 1
  2998. 1
  2999. 1
  3000. 1
  3001. 1
  3002. 1
  3003. 1
  3004. 1
  3005. 1
  3006. 1
  3007. 1
  3008. 1
  3009. 1
  3010. 1
  3011. 1
  3012. 1
  3013. 1
  3014. 1
  3015. 1
  3016. 1
  3017. 1
  3018. 1
  3019. 1
  3020. 1
  3021. 1
  3022. 1
  3023. 1
  3024. 1
  3025. 1
  3026. 1
  3027. 1
  3028. 1
  3029. 1
  3030. 1
  3031. 1
  3032. 1
  3033. 1
  3034. 1
  3035. 1
  3036. 1
  3037. 1
  3038. 1
  3039. 1
  3040. 1
  3041. 1
  3042. 1
  3043. 1
  3044. 1
  3045. 1
  3046. 1
  3047. 1
  3048. 1
  3049. 1
  3050. 1
  3051. 1
  3052. 1
  3053. 1
  3054. 1
  3055. 1
  3056. 1
  3057. 1
  3058. 1
  3059. 1
  3060. 1
  3061. 1
  3062. 1
  3063. 1
  3064. 1
  3065. 1
  3066. 1
  3067. 1
  3068. 1
  3069. 1
  3070. 1
  3071. 1
  3072. 1
  3073. 1
  3074. 1
  3075. 1
  3076. 1
  3077. 1
  3078. 1
  3079. 1
  3080. 1
  3081. 1
  3082. 1
  3083. 1
  3084. 1
  3085. 1
  3086. 1
  3087. 1
  3088. 1
  3089. 1
  3090. 1
  3091. 1
  3092. 1
  3093. 1
  3094. 1
  3095. 1
  3096. 1
  3097. 1
  3098. 1
  3099. 1
  3100. 1
  3101. 1
  3102. 1
  3103. 1
  3104. 1
  3105. 1
  3106. 1
  3107. 1
  3108. 1
  3109. 1
  3110. 1
  3111. 1
  3112. 1
  3113. 1
  3114. 1
  3115. 1
  3116. 1
  3117. 1
  3118. 1
  3119. 1
  3120. 1
  3121. 1
  3122. 1
  3123. 1
  3124. 1
  3125. 1
  3126. 1
  3127. 1
  3128. 1
  3129. 1
  3130. 1
  3131. 1
  3132. 1
  3133. 1
  3134. 1
  3135. 1
  3136. 1
  3137. 1
  3138. 1
  3139. 1
  3140. 1
  3141. 1
  3142. 1
  3143. 1
  3144. 1
  3145. 1
  3146. 1
  3147. 1
  3148. 1
  3149. 1
  3150. 1
  3151. 1
  3152. 1
  3153. 1
  3154. 1
  3155. 1
  3156. 1
  3157. 1
  3158. 1
  3159. 1
  3160. 1
  3161. 1
  3162. 1
  3163. 1
  3164. 1
  3165. 1
  3166. 1
  3167. 1
  3168. 1
  3169. 1
  3170. 1
  3171. 1
  3172. 1
  3173. 1
  3174. 1
  3175. 1
  3176. 1
  3177. 1
  3178. 1
  3179. 1
  3180. 1
  3181.  @thomaskennedy5728  It is HILARIOUS when room temperature IQ people like yourself make ignorant statements as if you knew what you were talking about in the first place. First the Carbon 14 dating done on the shroud FORTY years ago has been scientifically proven to be wrong. Do you think that MAYBE some new information MIGHT have come out in the last forty years. Well I used the word think and you in the same sentence so I know the answer is no. A new X-Ray dating technique has been discovered and it has been shown that it is far more accurate and reliable than Carbon-14 dating. The X-ray dating technique used by Italian scientists is a completely different and much more precise process. It involves analyzing the Shroud at the level of atoms. The researcher will measure the natural ageing of the linen cellulose using X-rays, and then convert it into the time elapsed since manufacture. The results obtained from the Shroud were compared with those of other authenticated linen fabric samples, ranging in age from 3000 BC to 2000 AD. The measurements of the shroud were found to be particularly close to those of a linen fabric that historical records date back to the siege of Masada in Israel, between 55 and 74 AD. These results are therefore far from the medieval hypothesis put forward in 1988. The X-ray technique offers a number of additional guarantees of reliability, explains Liberato De Caro, member of the research team, in an interview with the National Catholic Register. First, the sample required for the analysis is much smaller than that used for carbon-14 dating: 0.5 x 1 mm. The risk of finding exogenous particles is therefore considerably reduced. In addition, X-ray analysis can be carried out several times without damaging the support, whereas carbon-14 dating can only be done once per sample, which prevents any cross-checking in the event of doubt or error in the protocol. Turns out the only thing not authentic is your argument!
    1
  3182. 1
  3183. 1
  3184. 1
  3185. 1
  3186. 1
  3187. 1
  3188. 1
  3189. 1
  3190. 1
  3191. 1
  3192. 1
  3193. The problem is you are generalizing when it comes to the breed. Dogs are just like people and they have unique personalities. While one pit might be the sweetest dog ever the next could be highly aggressive and dangerous. I had a female pit that was raised from a puppy with two other dogs, two cats, I took her EVERYWHERE with me and socialized the crap out of her. I never hit her or even had to discipline her because my Jack Russell Terrier and Australian Shepherd showed her the ropes. Growing up she was the sweetest dog ever. Once she because an adult dog a sinister side surfaced where any new dog she met she would take a dominant stance and declare she was alpha. As long as that dog acknowledged her as alpha they were fine. If they didn't she would attack without warning. I had a large 1 acre fenced in back yard with some wooded areas, she would catch and kill opossums, racoons, squirrels, the neighbors cats, if it was in our back yard and she could catch it she would kill it. One of my neighbors had two west highland terriers that were always barking at her on their side of the fence. She never seemed to pay them much attention, I got home from work one day and she had used her massive head to push on the chain link fence and stretch it out enough to where she could crawl under it. She went into their yard looking for those dogs and she killed them both and literally tore their bodies to shreds. Around my wife and I, our other two dogs and cats she was as sweet a dog as you could imagine. Unsupervised.....she was dangerous. Here was the problem, I was too inexperienced as a dog owner to have a breed like a Pit Bull. I didn't recognize the body language and warning signs. This was long before the Dog Whisperer and I feel like today I could correct that behavior.
    1
  3194. 1
  3195. 1
  3196. 1
  3197. 1
  3198. 1
  3199. 1
  3200. 1
  3201. 1
  3202. 1
  3203. 1
  3204. 1
  3205. 1
  3206. 1
  3207. 1
  3208. 1
  3209. 1
  3210. 1
  3211. 1
  3212. 1
  3213. 1
  3214. 1
  3215. 1
  3216. 1
  3217. 1
  3218. 1
  3219. 1
  3220. 1
  3221. 1
  3222. 1
  3223. 1
  3224. 1
  3225. 1
  3226. 1
  3227. 1
  3228. 1
  3229. 1
  3230. 1
  3231. 1
  3232. 1
  3233. 1
  3234. 1
  3235. 1
  3236. 1
  3237. 1
  3238. 1
  3239. 1
  3240. 1
  3241. 1
  3242. 1
  3243. 1
  3244. 1
  3245. 1
  3246. 1
  3247. 1
  3248. 1
  3249. 1
  3250. 1
  3251. 1
  3252. 1
  3253. 1
  3254. 1
  3255. 1
  3256. 1
  3257. 1
  3258. 1
  3259. 1
  3260. 1
  3261. 1
  3262. 1
  3263. 1
  3264. 1
  3265. 1
  3266. 1
  3267. 1
  3268. 1
  3269. 1
  3270. 1
  3271. 1
  3272. 1
  3273. 1
  3274. 1
  3275. 1
  3276. 1
  3277. 1
  3278. 1
  3279. 1
  3280. 1
  3281. 1
  3282. 1
  3283. 1
  3284. 1
  3285. 1
  3286. 1
  3287. 1
  3288. 1
  3289. 1
  3290. 1
  3291. 1
  3292. 1
  3293. 1
  3294. 1
  3295. 1
  3296. 1
  3297. 1
  3298. 1
  3299. 1
  3300. 1
  3301. 1
  3302. 1
  3303. 1
  3304. 1
  3305. 1
  3306. 1
  3307. 1
  3308. 1
  3309. 1
  3310. 1
  3311. 1
  3312. 1
  3313. 1
  3314. 1
  3315. 1
  3316. 1
  3317. 1
  3318. 1
  3319. 1
  3320. 1
  3321. 1
  3322. 1
  3323. 1
  3324. 1
  3325. 1
  3326. 1
  3327. 1
  3328. 1
  3329. 1
  3330. 1
  3331. 1
  3332. 1
  3333. 1
  3334. 1
  3335. 1
  3336. 1
  3337. 1
  3338. 1
  3339. 1
  3340. 1
  3341. 1
  3342. 1
  3343. 1
  3344. 1
  3345. 1
  3346. 1
  3347. 1
  3348. 1
  3349. 1
  3350. 1
  3351. 1
  3352. 1
  3353. 1
  3354. 1
  3355. 1
  3356. 1
  3357. 1
  3358. 1
  3359. 1
  3360. 1
  3361. 1
  3362. 1
  3363. 1
  3364. 1
  3365. 1
  3366. 1
  3367. 1
  3368. 1
  3369. 1
  3370. 1
  3371. 1
  3372. 1
  3373. 1
  3374. 1
  3375. 1
  3376. 1
  3377. 1
  3378. 1
  3379. 1
  3380. 1
  3381. 1
  3382. 1
  3383. 1
  3384. 1
  3385. 1
  3386. 1
  3387. 1
  3388. 1
  3389. 1
  3390. 1
  3391. 1
  3392. 1
  3393. 1
  3394. 1
  3395. 1
  3396. 1
  3397. 1
  3398. 1
  3399. 1
  3400. 1
  3401. 1
  3402. 1
  3403. 1
  3404. 1
  3405. 1
  3406. 1
  3407. 1
  3408. 1
  3409. 1
  3410. 1
  3411. 1
  3412. 1
  3413. 1
  3414. 1
  3415. 1
  3416. 1
  3417. 1
  3418. 1
  3419. 1
  3420. 1
  3421. 1
  3422. 1
  3423. 1
  3424. 1
  3425. 1
  3426. 1
  3427. 1
  3428. 1
  3429. 1
  3430. 1
  3431. 1
  3432. 1
  3433. 1
  3434. 1
  3435. 1
  3436. 1
  3437. 1
  3438. 1
  3439. 1
  3440. 1
  3441. 1
  3442. 1
  3443. 1
  3444. 1
  3445. 1
  3446. 1
  3447. 1
  3448. 1
  3449. 1
  3450. 1
  3451. 1
  3452. 1
  3453. 1
  3454. 1
  3455. 1
  3456. 1
  3457. 1
  3458. 1
  3459. 1
  3460. 1
  3461. 1
  3462. 1
  3463. 1
  3464. 1
  3465. 1
  3466. 1
  3467. 1
  3468. 1
  3469. 1
  3470. 1
  3471. 1
  3472. 1
  3473. 1
  3474. 1
  3475. 1
  3476. 1
  3477. 1
  3478. 1
  3479. 1
  3480. 1
  3481. 1
  3482. 1
  3483. 1
  3484. 1
  3485. 1
  3486. 1
  3487. 1
  3488. 1
  3489. 1
  3490. 1
  3491. 1
  3492. 1
  3493. 1
  3494. 1
  3495. 1
  3496. 1
  3497. 1
  3498. 1
  3499. 1
  3500. 1
  3501. 1
  3502. 1
  3503. 1
  3504. 1
  3505. 1
  3506. 1
  3507. 1
  3508. 1
  3509. 1
  3510. 1
  3511. 1
  3512. 1
  3513. 1
  3514. 1
  3515. 1
  3516. 1
  3517. 1
  3518. 1
  3519. 1
  3520. 1
  3521. 1
  3522. 1
  3523. 1
  3524. 1
  3525. 1
  3526. 1
  3527. 1
  3528. 1
  3529. 1
  3530. 1
  3531. 1
  3532. 1
  3533. 1
  3534. 1
  3535. 1
  3536. 1
  3537. 1
  3538. 1
  3539. 1
  3540. 1
  3541. 1
  3542. 1
  3543. 1
  3544. 1
  3545. 1
  3546. 1
  3547. 1
  3548. 1
  3549. 1
  3550. 1
  3551. 1
  3552. 1
  3553. 1
  3554. 1
  3555. 1
  3556. 1
  3557. 1
  3558. 1
  3559. 1
  3560. 1
  3561. 1
  3562. 1
  3563. 1
  3564. 1
  3565. 1
  3566. 1
  3567. 1
  3568. 1
  3569. 1
  3570. 1
  3571. 1
  3572. 1
  3573. 1
  3574. 1
  3575. 1
  3576. 1
  3577. 1
  3578. 1
  3579. 1
  3580. 1
  3581. 1
  3582. 1
  3583. 1
  3584. 1
  3585. 1
  3586. 1
  3587. 1
  3588. 1
  3589. 1
  3590. 1
  3591. 1
  3592. 1
  3593. 1
  3594. 1
  3595. 1
  3596. 1
  3597. 1
  3598. 1
  3599. 1
  3600. 1
  3601. 1
  3602. 1
  3603. 1
  3604. 1
  3605. 1
  3606. 1
  3607. 1
  3608. 1
  3609. 1
  3610. 1
  3611. 1
  3612. 1
  3613. 1
  3614. 1
  3615. 1
  3616. 1
  3617. 1
  3618. 1
  3619. 1
  3620. 1
  3621. 1
  3622. The archaeology says that this can't possibly be the tomb of Jesus. It was carved in the iron age, 600 years before Jesus was born and during his life it had already been abandoned. Scripture tells us Jesus Tomb was brand new and never used. The garden there is also from the time of the crusades about 1200 years after Jesus death. Lastly in the scriptures it is CLEAR that Jesus Tomb was partially underground. Peter and Mary had to bend over to look down into the Tomb. John Chapter 20 The Empty Tomb 20 Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance. 2 So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one Jesus loved, and said, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don’t know where they have put him!” 3 So Peter and the other disciple started for the tomb. 4 Both were running, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. 5 He bent over and looked in at the strips of linen lying there but did not go in. 6 Then Simon Peter came along behind him and went straight into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, 7 as well as the cloth that had been wrapped around Jesus’ head. The cloth was still lying in its place, separate from the linen. 8 Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside. He saw and believed. 9 (They still did not understand from Scripture that Jesus had to rise from the dead.) 10 Then the disciples went back to where they were staying. Jesus Appears to Mary Magdalene 11 Now Mary stood outside the tomb crying. As she wept, she bent over to look into the tomb 12 and saw two angels in white, seated where Jesus’ body had been, one at the head and the other at the foot.
    1
  3623. 1
  3624. 1
  3625. 1
  3626. 1
  3627. 1
  3628. 1
  3629. 1
  3630. 1
  3631. 1
  3632. 1
  3633. 1
  3634. 1
  3635. 1
  3636. 1
  3637. 1
  3638. 1
  3639. 1
  3640. 1
  3641. 1
  3642. 1
  3643. 1
  3644. 1
  3645. 1
  3646. 1
  3647. 1
  3648. 1
  3649. 1
  3650. 1
  3651. 1
  3652. 1
  3653. 1
  3654. 1
  3655. 1
  3656. 1
  3657. 1
  3658. 1
  3659. 1
  3660. 1
  3661. 1
  3662. 1
  3663. 1
  3664. 1
  3665. 1
  3666. 1
  3667. 1
  3668. 1
  3669. 1
  3670. 1
  3671. 1
  3672. 1
  3673. 1
  3674. 1
  3675. 1
  3676. 1
  3677. 1
  3678. 1
  3679. 1
  3680. 1
  3681. 1
  3682. 1
  3683. 1
  3684. 1
  3685. 1
  3686. 1
  3687. 1
  3688. 1
  3689. 1
  3690. 1
  3691. 1
  3692. 1
  3693. 1
  3694. 1
  3695. 1
  3696. 1
  3697. 1
  3698. 1
  3699. 1
  3700. 1
  3701. 1
  3702. 1
  3703. 1
  3704. 1
  3705. 1
  3706. 1
  3707. Great video, I am a former gunners mate on the USS Iowa. So this brings back s many memories. The MK-8 Range keeper fire control computer was so advanced that when the Iowa's were reactivated in the 80's they were retained because a modern computer could not do the job any better. With the MK-8 gone were the days of ranging salvos and adjusting fire. If you had a firing solution you can realistically expect a first salvo hit. The only factors being the natural dispersion and manual error in inputting the data into the computer. Provided you inputted everything correctly the computer would update everything in real time. It did not matter if you changed course and speed or if your target changed course and speed the system was calculating where the target would be when the shells landed. It was the worlds first aimbot. A good demonstration of the system in actual combat was at the battle of the Surigao strait. The West Virginia had been completely modernized and rebuilt after Pearl Harbor had a MK-8 fire control computer. In pitch black conditions the West Virginia's fire control radar picked up the Japanese battleship Yamashiro at 42,000 yards and had a firing solution lock at 30,000. The opened fire at 22,800 yards and scored a first salvo hit and scored hits on five of the next six salvos. California and Tennessee which were also modernized and equipped with the MK after Pearl Harbor also engaged Yamashiro. The other three battleships in his formation, Maryland, Mississippi and Pennsylvania did not get those modernizations and had older less capable fire control systems were not able to get a firing solution. Maryland had to visually sight in on the splashed from the other battleships. Mississippi only fired one salvo and the Pennsylvania could not find the target and never fired a shot. The Yamashiro was unable to acquire a target and was unable to return fire on any of the US battleships. This is why the North Carolina, South Dakoda and Iowa class ships would have had little difficulty squashing any axis battleship during the war.
    1
  3708. 1
  3709. 1
  3710. 1
  3711. 1
  3712. 1
  3713. 1
  3714. 1
  3715. 1
  3716. 1
  3717. 1
  3718. 1
  3719. 1
  3720. 1
  3721. 1
  3722. 1
  3723. 1
  3724. 1
  3725. 1
  3726. 1
  3727. 1
  3728. 1
  3729. 1
  3730. 1
  3731. 1
  3732. 1
  3733. 1
  3734. 1
  3735. 1
  3736. 1
  3737. 1
  3738. 1
  3739. 1
  3740. 1
  3741. 1
  3742. 1
  3743. 1
  3744. 1
  3745. 1
  3746. 1
  3747. 1
  3748. 1
  3749. 1
  3750. 1
  3751. 1
  3752. 1
  3753. 1
  3754. 1
  3755. 1
  3756. 1
  3757. 1
  3758. 1
  3759. 1
  3760. 1
  3761. 1
  3762. 1
  3763. 1
  3764. 1
  3765. 1
  3766. 1
  3767. 1
  3768. 1
  3769. 1
  3770. 1
  3771. 1
  3772. 1
  3773. 1
  3774. 1
  3775. 1
  3776. 1
  3777. 1
  3778. 1
  3779. 1
  3780. 1
  3781. 1
  3782. 1
  3783. 1
  3784. 1
  3785. 1
  3786. 1
  3787. 1
  3788. 1
  3789. 1
  3790. 1
  3791. 1
  3792. 1
  3793. 1
  3794. 1
  3795. 1
  3796. 1
  3797. 1
  3798. 1
  3799. 1
  3800. 1
  3801. 1
  3802. 1
  3803. 1
  3804. 1
  3805. 1
  3806. 1
  3807. 1
  3808. 1
  3809. 1
  3810. 1
  3811. 1
  3812. 1
  3813. 1
  3814. 1
  3815. 1
  3816. 1
  3817. 1
  3818. 1
  3819. 1
  3820. 1
  3821. 1
  3822. 1
  3823. 1
  3824. 1
  3825. 1
  3826. 1
  3827. 1
  3828. 1
  3829. 1
  3830. 1
  3831. 1
  3832. 1
  3833. 1
  3834. 1
  3835. 1
  3836. 1
  3837. 1
  3838. 1
  3839. 1
  3840. 1
  3841. 1
  3842. 1
  3843. 1
  3844. 1
  3845. 1
  3846. 1
  3847. 1
  3848. 1
  3849. 1
  3850. 1
  3851. 1
  3852. 1
  3853. 1
  3854. 1
  3855. 1
  3856. 1
  3857. 1
  3858. 1
  3859. 1
  3860. 1
  3861. 1
  3862. 1
  3863. 1
  3864. 1
  3865. 1
  3866. 1
  3867. 1
  3868. 1
  3869. 1
  3870. 1
  3871. 1
  3872. 1
  3873. 1
  3874. 1
  3875. 1
  3876. 1
  3877. 1
  3878. 1
  3879. 1
  3880. 1
  3881. 1
  3882. 1
  3883. 1
  3884. 1
  3885. 1
  3886. 1
  3887. 1
  3888. 1
  3889. 1
  3890. 1
  3891. 1
  3892. 1
  3893. 1
  3894. 1
  3895. 1
  3896. 1
  3897. 1
  3898. 1
  3899. 1
  3900. 1
  3901. 1
  3902. 1
  3903. 1
  3904. 1
  3905. 1
  3906. 1
  3907. 1
  3908. 1
  3909. 1
  3910. 1
  3911. 1
  3912. 1
  3913. 1
  3914. 1
  3915. 1
  3916. 1
  3917. 1
  3918. 1
  3919. 1
  3920. 1
  3921. 1
  3922. 1
  3923. 1
  3924. 1
  3925. 1
  3926. 1
  3927. 1
  3928. 1
  3929. 1
  3930. 1
  3931. 1
  3932. 1
  3933. 1
  3934. 1
  3935. 1
  3936. 1
  3937. 1
  3938. 1
  3939. 1
  3940. 1
  3941. 1
  3942. 1
  3943. 1
  3944. 1
  3945. 1
  3946. 1
  3947. 1
  3948. 1
  3949. 1
  3950. 1
  3951. 1
  3952. 1
  3953. 1
  3954. 1
  3955. 1
  3956. 1
  3957. 1
  3958. 1
  3959. 1
  3960. 1
  3961. 1
  3962. 1
  3963. 1
  3964. 1
  3965. 1
  3966. 1
  3967. 1
  3968. 1
  3969. 1
  3970. 1
  3971. 1
  3972. 1
  3973. 1
  3974. 1
  3975. 1
  3976. 1
  3977. 1
  3978. 1
  3979. 1
  3980. 1
  3981. 1
  3982. 1
  3983. 1
  3984. 1
  3985. 1
  3986. 1
  3987. 1
  3988. 1
  3989. 1
  3990. 1
  3991. 1
  3992. 1
  3993. 1
  3994. 1
  3995. 1
  3996. 1
  3997. 1
  3998. 1
  3999. 1
  4000. 1
  4001. 1
  4002. 1
  4003. 1
  4004. 1
  4005. 1
  4006. 1
  4007. 1
  4008. 1
  4009. 1
  4010. 1
  4011. 1
  4012. 1
  4013. 1
  4014. 1
  4015. 1
  4016. 1
  4017. 1
  4018. 1
  4019. 1
  4020. 1
  4021. 1
  4022. 1
  4023. 1
  4024. 1
  4025. 1
  4026. 1
  4027. 1
  4028. 1
  4029. 1
  4030. 1
  4031. 1
  4032. 1
  4033. 1
  4034. 1
  4035. 1
  4036. 1
  4037. 1
  4038. 1
  4039. 1
  4040. 1
  4041. 1
  4042. 1
  4043. 1
  4044. 1
  4045. 1
  4046. 1
  4047. 1
  4048. 1
  4049. 1
  4050. 1
  4051. 1
  4052. 1
  4053. 1
  4054. 1
  4055. 1
  4056. 1
  4057. 1
  4058. 1
  4059. 1
  4060. 1
  4061. 1
  4062. 1
  4063. 1
  4064. 1
  4065. 1
  4066. 1
  4067. 1
  4068. 1
  4069. 1
  4070. 1
  4071. 1
  4072. 1
  4073. 1
  4074. 1
  4075. 1
  4076. 1
  4077. 1
  4078. 1
  4079. 1
  4080. 1
  4081. 1
  4082. 1
  4083. 1
  4084. 1
  4085. 1
  4086. 1
  4087. 1
  4088. 1
  4089. 1
  4090. 1
  4091. 1
  4092. 1
  4093. 1
  4094. 1
  4095. 1
  4096. 1
  4097. 1
  4098. 1
  4099. 1
  4100. 1
  4101. 1
  4102. 1
  4103. 1
  4104. 1
  4105. 1
  4106. 1
  4107. 1
  4108. 1
  4109. 1
  4110. 1
  4111. 1
  4112. 1
  4113. 1
  4114. 1
  4115. 1
  4116. 1
  4117. 1
  4118. 1
  4119. 1
  4120. 1
  4121. 1
  4122. 1
  4123. 1
  4124. 1
  4125. 1
  4126. 1
  4127. 1
  4128. 1
  4129. 1
  4130. 1
  4131. 1
  4132. 1
  4133. 1
  4134. 1
  4135. 1
  4136. 1
  4137. 1
  4138. 1
  4139. 1
  4140.  @ladymondegreen  Thank you for your civil reply. First get rid of the term Assault Rifle. That is just a scary word the left uses to scare people and demonize a specific class of weapons called semi automatic rifles. Civilians can not own assault rifles without special permits. Second, semi automatic rifles have been around since the early 1900's why did mass shootings not become a thing until Columbine? Where have we gone wrong as a society that has made people seem so much more willing to take this path of action that they so rarely did in the past? I think it will be interesting to see if the shooter was being treated with Anti Depressants, nearly all mass shooters have one thing in common they were all being treated or had been recently treated with serotonin reuptake inhibitor type anti depressants. I do not think that is a coincidence. I would also say our society as a whole has gotten so soft that these kids can't seem to handle ANY adversity. The days of safe spaces, participation trophies and coddling our children is probably doing them far more harm in the long run. I also think Social Media plays a large part. Back in my day I was bullied every day at school but after school I was safe in my house. Today there is no unplugging from the negativity you are bombarded by it 24/7. I remember last year I was working from home and spent a ton of time on Social media and between COVID and Politics it was ALL negative and I got so depressed for a few weeks I didn't want to get out of bed. I decided to eliminate Facebook, Twitter from my life and I am a much happier person for it. Semi Automatic rifles are a symptom not the disease. You don't cure the disease treating a symptom.
    1
  4141. 1
  4142. 1
  4143. 1
  4144. 1
  4145. 1
  4146. 1
  4147. 1
  4148. 1
  4149. 1
  4150. 1
  4151. 1
  4152. 1
  4153. 1
  4154. 1
  4155. 1
  4156. 1
  4157. 1
  4158. 1
  4159. 1
  4160. 1
  4161. 1
  4162. 1
  4163. 1
  4164. 1
  4165. 1
  4166. 1
  4167. 1
  4168. 1
  4169. 1
  4170. 1
  4171. 1
  4172. 1
  4173. 1
  4174. 1
  4175. 1
  4176. 1
  4177. 1
  4178. 1
  4179. 1
  4180. 1
  4181. 1
  4182. 1
  4183. 1
  4184. 1
  4185. 1
  4186. 1
  4187. 1
  4188. 1
  4189. 1
  4190. 1
  4191. 1
  4192. 1
  4193. 1
  4194. 1
  4195. 1
  4196. 1
  4197. 1
  4198. 1
  4199. 1
  4200. 1
  4201. 1
  4202. 1
  4203. 1
  4204. 1
  4205. 1
  4206. 1
  4207. 1
  4208. 1
  4209. 1
  4210. 1
  4211. 1
  4212. 1
  4213. 1
  4214. 1
  4215. 1
  4216. 1
  4217. 1
  4218. 1
  4219. 1
  4220. 1
  4221. 1
  4222. 1
  4223. 1
  4224. 1
  4225. 1
  4226. 1
  4227. 1
  4228. 1
  4229. 1
  4230. 1
  4231. 1
  4232. 1
  4233. 1
  4234. 1
  4235. 1
  4236. 1
  4237. 1
  4238. 1
  4239. 1
  4240. 1
  4241. 1
  4242. 1
  4243. 1
  4244. 1
  4245. 1
  4246. 1
  4247. 1
  4248. 1
  4249. 1
  4250. 1
  4251. 1
  4252. 1
  4253. 1
  4254. 1
  4255. 1
  4256. 1
  4257. 1
  4258. 1
  4259. 1
  4260. 1
  4261. 1
  4262. 1
  4263. 1
  4264. 1
  4265. 1
  4266. 1
  4267. 1
  4268. 1
  4269. 1
  4270. 1
  4271. 1
  4272. 1
  4273. 1
  4274. 1
  4275. 1
  4276. 1
  4277. 1
  4278. 1
  4279. 1
  4280. 1
  4281. 1
  4282. 1
  4283. 1
  4284.  @azmagaref  Actually WTC 7 collapsed because it was impacted by THOUSANDS of tons of falling debris from WTC 1 and 2. Lets look at what Firefighters who were there had to say about it. Captain Chris Boyle Engine 94 - 18 years Boyle: ...on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good. Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side? Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it. Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many? Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we’ll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day. Captain Varriale told Chief Coloe and myself that 7 World Trade Center was badly damaged on the south side and definitely in danger of collapse. Chief Coloe said we were going to evacuate the collapse zone around 7 World Trade Center, which we did. Fire chief Daniel Nigro says further assessment of the damage indicated that it was severe: The biggest decision we had to make was to clear the area and create a collapse zone around the severely damaged [WTC Building 7]. A number of fire officers and companies assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt. Deputy Chief Peter Hayden Division 1 - 33 years ...also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse. Firehouse: Was there heavy fire in there right away? Hayden: No, not right away, and that’s probably why it stood for so long because it took a while for that fire to develop. It was a heavy body of fire in there and then we didn’t make any attempt to fight it. That was just one of those wars we were just going to lose. We were concerned about the collapse of a 47-story building there. We were worried about additional collapse there of what was remaining standing of the towers and the Marriott, so we started pulling the people back after a couple of hours of surface removal and searches along the surface of the debris. We started to pull guys back because we were concerned for their safety. It is HILARIOUS when low IQ morons who have NO IDEA what they are talking about try and comment on WTC-7
    1
  4285.  @azmagaref  And everything you said is wrong, first it did not fall symemetrically, most of the building ended up piled up against the Verizon Building across the street. The Verizon building was so heavily damaged from the collapse of WTC-7 that it had to be torn down as well. It did not fall in 6.5 seconds, for some reason conspiratards ALWAYS ignote the rooftop Penthouses collapsing into the building. The TRUTH is WTC-7 had been experiencing an internal prograssive collapse for hours, when it final collapse happened it WAS and empty shell most of the internal floors had already collapsed. I also bet you don't even know that WTC-7 was built AROUND another building, the Con/Ed power substation and EVERYTHING above the 7th floor was supported by only three columns. Below the seventh floor the building was supported by a seriec of complex trusses. If ONE of the three vertical load colums from the 7th floor and avobe was lost it would have led to a progressive collapse that could not have been stopped. AGAIN, According to Deputy Chief Peter Hayden, there is a bulge in the southwest corner of the building between floors 10 and 13. A bulge in the Southwest corner is an indication that the building is structurally compromised. Some of the internal vertical load capability had been compromised and the exterior walls were supporting more weight than they were designed to. The bulge indicates WTC-7 nearly collapsed from being struck by the debris from WTC 1&2 alone. I also LOVE how you take Larry Silversteins comment of "Pull It" 100% out of context. What he was talking about was the firefighting efforts. They had already cleared WTC-7 of people but it was decided to pull the firefighters out of the building because after it was inspected According to fire chief Daniel Nigro, A number of fire offices and engineers assessed the damage to the building. The appraisals indicated that the building's integrity was in serious doubt. I love how conspiratards cherry pick facts and take say three and ignore the other 97 to try and make it look like their argument is sound. It is also funny when they say things like defying physics, like they even have a basic knowledge of physics in the first place.
    1
  4286. 1
  4287. 1
  4288. 1
  4289. 1
  4290. 1
  4291. 1
  4292. 1
  4293. 1
  4294. 1
  4295. 1
  4296. 1
  4297. 1
  4298. 1
  4299. 1
  4300. 1
  4301. 1
  4302. 1
  4303. 1
  4304. 1
  4305. 1
  4306. 1
  4307. 1
  4308. 1
  4309. 1
  4310. 1
  4311. 1
  4312. 1
  4313. 1
  4314. 1
  4315. 1
  4316. 1
  4317. 1
  4318. 1
  4319. 1
  4320. 1
  4321. 1
  4322. 1
  4323. 1
  4324. 1
  4325. 1
  4326. 1
  4327. 1
  4328. 1
  4329. 1
  4330. 1
  4331. 1
  4332. 1
  4333. 1
  4334. 1
  4335. 1
  4336. 1
  4337. 1
  4338. 1
  4339. 1
  4340. 1
  4341. 1
  4342. 1
  4343. 1
  4344. 1
  4345. 1
  4346. 1
  4347. 1
  4348. 1
  4349. 1
  4350. 1
  4351. 1
  4352. 1
  4353. 1
  4354. 1
  4355. 1
  4356. 1
  4357. 1
  4358. 1
  4359. 1
  4360. 1
  4361. 1
  4362. 1
  4363. 1
  4364. 1
  4365. 1
  4366. 1
  4367. 1
  4368. 1
  4369. 1
  4370. 1
  4371. 1
  4372. 1
  4373. 1
  4374. 1
  4375. 1
  4376. 1
  4377. 1
  4378. 1
  4379. 1
  4380. 1
  4381. 1
  4382. 1
  4383. 1
  4384. 1
  4385. 1
  4386. 1
  4387. 1
  4388. 1
  4389. 1
  4390. 1
  4391. 1
  4392. 1
  4393. 1
  4394. 1
  4395. 1
  4396. 1
  4397. 1
  4398. 1
  4399. 1
  4400. 1
  4401. 1
  4402. 1
  4403. 1
  4404. 1
  4405. 1
  4406. 1
  4407. 1
  4408. 1
  4409. 1
  4410. 1
  4411. 1
  4412. 1
  4413. 1
  4414. 1
  4415. 1
  4416. 1
  4417. 1
  4418. 1
  4419. 1
  4420. 1
  4421. 1
  4422. 1
  4423. 1
  4424. 1
  4425. 1
  4426. 1
  4427. 1
  4428. 1
  4429. 1
  4430. 1
  4431. 1
  4432. 1
  4433. 1
  4434. 1
  4435. 1
  4436. 1
  4437. 1
  4438. 1
  4439. 1
  4440. 1
  4441. 1
  4442. 1
  4443. 1
  4444. 1
  4445. 1
  4446. 1
  4447. 1
  4448. 1
  4449. 1
  4450. 1
  4451. 1
  4452. 1
  4453. 1
  4454. 1
  4455. 1
  4456. 1
  4457. 1
  4458. 1
  4459. 1
  4460. 1
  4461. 1
  4462. 1
  4463. 1
  4464. 1
  4465. 1
  4466. 1
  4467. 1
  4468. 1
  4469. 1
  4470. 1
  4471. 1
  4472. 1
  4473. 1
  4474. 1
  4475. 1
  4476. 1
  4477. 1
  4478. 1
  4479. 1
  4480. 1
  4481. 1
  4482. 1
  4483. 1
  4484. 1
  4485. 1
  4486. 1
  4487. 1
  4488. 1
  4489. 1
  4490. 1
  4491. 1
  4492. 1
  4493. 1
  4494. 1
  4495. 1
  4496. 1
  4497. 1
  4498. 1
  4499. 1
  4500. 1
  4501. 1
  4502. 1
  4503. 1
  4504. 1
  4505. 1
  4506. 1
  4507. 1
  4508. 1
  4509. 1
  4510. 1
  4511. 1
  4512. 1
  4513. 1
  4514. 1
  4515. 1
  4516. 1
  4517. 1
  4518. 1
  4519. 1
  4520. 1
  4521. 1
  4522. 1
  4523. 1
  4524. 1
  4525. 1
  4526. 1
  4527. 1
  4528. 1
  4529. 1
  4530. 1
  4531. 1
  4532. 1
  4533. 1
  4534. 1
  4535. 1
  4536. 1
  4537. 1
  4538. 1
  4539. 1
  4540. 1
  4541. 1
  4542. 1
  4543. 1
  4544. 1
  4545. 1
  4546. 1
  4547. 1
  4548. 1
  4549. 1
  4550. 1
  4551. 1
  4552. 1
  4553. 1
  4554. 1
  4555. 1
  4556. 1
  4557. 1
  4558. 1
  4559. 1
  4560. 1
  4561. 1
  4562. 1
  4563. 1
  4564. 1
  4565. 1
  4566. 1
  4567. 1
  4568. 1
  4569. 1
  4570. 1
  4571. 1
  4572. 1
  4573. 1
  4574. 1
  4575. 1
  4576. 1
  4577. 1
  4578. 1
  4579. 1
  4580. 1
  4581. 1
  4582. 1
  4583. 1
  4584. 1
  4585. 1
  4586. 1
  4587. 1
  4588. 1
  4589. 1
  4590. 1
  4591. 1
  4592. 1
  4593. 1
  4594. 1
  4595. 1
  4596. 1
  4597. 1
  4598. 1
  4599. 1
  4600. 1
  4601. 1
  4602. 1
  4603. 1
  4604. 1
  4605. 1
  4606. 1
  4607. 1
  4608. 1
  4609. 1
  4610. 1
  4611. 1
  4612. 1
  4613. 1
  4614. 1
  4615. 1
  4616. 1
  4617. 1
  4618. 1
  4619. 1
  4620. 1
  4621. 1
  4622. 1
  4623. 1
  4624. 1
  4625. 1
  4626. 1
  4627. 1
  4628. 1
  4629. 1
  4630. 1
  4631. 1
  4632. 1
  4633. 1
  4634. 1
  4635. 1
  4636. 1
  4637. 1
  4638. 1
  4639. 1
  4640. 1
  4641. 1
  4642. 1
  4643. 1
  4644. 1
  4645. 1
  4646. 1
  4647. 1
  4648. 1
  4649. 1
  4650. 1
  4651. 1
  4652. 1
  4653. 1
  4654. 1
  4655. 1
  4656. 1
  4657. 1
  4658. 1
  4659. 1
  4660. 1
  4661. 1
  4662. 1
  4663. 1
  4664. 1
  4665. 1
  4666. 1
  4667. 1
  4668. 1
  4669. 1
  4670. 1
  4671. 1
  4672. 1
  4673. 1
  4674. 1
  4675. 1
  4676. 1
  4677. 1
  4678. 1
  4679. 1
  4680. 1
  4681. 1
  4682. 1
  4683. 1
  4684. 1
  4685. 1
  4686. 1
  4687. 1
  4688. 1
  4689. 1
  4690. 1
  4691. 1
  4692. 1
  4693. 1
  4694. 1
  4695. 1
  4696. 1
  4697. 1
  4698. 1
  4699. 1
  4700. 1
  4701. 1
  4702. 1
  4703. 1
  4704. 1
  4705. 1
  4706. 1
  4707. 1
  4708. 1
  4709. 1
  4710. 1
  4711. 1
  4712. 1
  4713. 1
  4714. 1
  4715. 1
  4716. 1
  4717. 1
  4718. 1
  4719. 1
  4720. 1
  4721. 1
  4722. 1
  4723. 1
  4724. 1
  4725. 1
  4726. 1
  4727. 1
  4728. 1
  4729. 1
  4730. 1
  4731. 1
  4732. 1
  4733. 1
  4734. 1
  4735. 1
  4736. 1
  4737. 1
  4738. 1
  4739. 1
  4740. 1
  4741. 1
  4742. 1
  4743. 1
  4744. 1
  4745. 1
  4746. 1
  4747. 1
  4748. 1
  4749. 1
  4750. 1
  4751. 1
  4752. 1
  4753. 1
  4754. 1
  4755. 1
  4756. 1
  4757. 1
  4758. 1
  4759. 1
  4760. 1
  4761. 1
  4762. 1
  4763. 1
  4764. 1
  4765. 1
  4766. 1
  4767. 1
  4768. 1
  4769. 1
  4770. 1
  4771. 1
  4772. 1
  4773. 1
  4774. 1
  4775. 1
  4776. 1
  4777. 1
  4778. 1
  4779. 1
  4780. 1
  4781. 1
  4782. 1
  4783. 1
  4784. 1
  4785. 1
  4786. 1
  4787. 1
  4788. 1
  4789. 1
  4790. 1
  4791. 1
  4792. 1
  4793. 1
  4794. 1
  4795. 1
  4796. 1
  4797. 1
  4798. 1
  4799. 1
  4800. 1
  4801. 1
  4802. 1
  4803. 1
  4804. 1
  4805. 1
  4806. 1
  4807. 1
  4808. 1
  4809. 1
  4810. 1
  4811. 1
  4812. 1
  4813. 1
  4814. 1
  4815. 1
  4816. 1
  4817. 1
  4818. 1
  4819. 1
  4820. 1
  4821. 1
  4822. 1
  4823. 1
  4824. 1
  4825. 1
  4826. 1
  4827. 1
  4828. 1
  4829. 1
  4830. 1
  4831. 1
  4832. 1
  4833. 1
  4834. 1
  4835. 1
  4836. 1
  4837. 1
  4838. 1
  4839. 1
  4840. 1
  4841. 1
  4842. 1
  4843. 1
  4844. 1
  4845. 1
  4846. 1
  4847. 1
  4848. 1
  4849. 1
  4850. 1
  4851. 1
  4852. 1
  4853. 1
  4854. 1
  4855. 1
  4856. 1
  4857. 1
  4858. 1
  4859. 1
  4860. 1
  4861. 1
  4862. 1
  4863. 1
  4864. 1
  4865. 1
  4866. 1
  4867. 1
  4868. 1
  4869. 1
  4870. 1
  4871. 1
  4872. 1
  4873. 1
  4874. 1
  4875. 1
  4876. 1
  4877. 1
  4878. 1
  4879. 1
  4880. 1
  4881. 1
  4882. 1
  4883. 1
  4884. 1
  4885. 1
  4886. 1
  4887. 1
  4888. 1
  4889. 1
  4890. 1
  4891. 1
  4892. 1
  4893. 1
  4894. 1
  4895. 1
  4896. 1
  4897. 1
  4898. 1
  4899. 1
  4900. 1
  4901. 1
  4902. 1
  4903. 1
  4904. 1
  4905. 1
  4906. 1
  4907. 1
  4908. 1
  4909. 1
  4910. 1
  4911. 1
  4912. 1
  4913. 1
  4914. 1
  4915. 1
  4916. 1
  4917. 1
  4918. 1
  4919. 1
  4920. 1
  4921. 1
  4922. 1
  4923. 1
  4924. 1
  4925. 1
  4926. 1
  4927. 1
  4928. 1
  4929. 1
  4930. 1
  4931. 1
  4932. 1
  4933. 1
  4934. 1
  4935. 1
  4936. 1
  4937. 1
  4938. 1
  4939. 1
  4940. 1
  4941. 1
  4942. 1
  4943. 1
  4944. 1
  4945. 1
  4946. 1
  4947. 1
  4948. 1
  4949. 1
  4950. 1
  4951. 1
  4952. 1
  4953. 1
  4954. 1
  4955. 1
  4956. 1
  4957. 1
  4958. 1
  4959. 1
  4960. 1
  4961. 1
  4962. 1
  4963. 1
  4964. 1
  4965. 1
  4966. 1
  4967. 1
  4968. 1
  4969. 1
  4970. 1
  4971. 1
  4972. 1
  4973. 1
  4974. 1
  4975. 1
  4976. 1
  4977. 1
  4978. 1
  4979. 1
  4980. 1
  4981. 1
  4982. 1
  4983. 1
  4984. Sir, please do not comment on things you have no idea what you are talking about. I am a veteran of the USS Iowa and I was there that day. Clay Hartwig was my best friend and the silly notion that he had something to do with it was 100% fabricated by the NIS. First Clay was the primer man in the center gun of turret two that day, he was no where near the powder bags. Second I had Breakfast with him that morning, he was not depressed, he was in good spirits and was excited about his upcoming change of duty station. Third the entire story about Clay having made advances towards a sailor and having those feelings rebuked is 100% made up, I know this because I was the sailor Clay was supposed to have made advances too. I was interrogated by the NIS for hours on end, days turned into weeks, and eventually into months. The NIS broke me in their interrogations and I signed a false confession just to get them to leave me alone. The very next day I told them it was bullshit and that it was not true but they leaked that confession to the press anyways. I remember the first time I was questioned by the NIS the very first thing they said was we know Clay did it. That was before any of the testing, investigation, anything. The NIS was looking to blame someone for the explosion and they chose Clay because he had his SGLI naming another sailor as his beneficiary that was it. Lastly GMG2 Lawrence who was the gun captain that day could be heard communicating with main plot, he kept telling them they were not ready and that they had a problem that they were trying to correct. Petty Officer Hanyecz was looking into the center gun room from the booth through the porthole said oh my god I see a flash. Seconds later he yelled out to Petty Officer Mortenson in our turret....Mort.....Mort and that was it. There was no sabotage involved at all. It was an accidental over ram of the powder bags and it set one of them off.
    1
  4985. 1
  4986. 1
  4987. 1
  4988. 1
  4989. 1
  4990. 1
  4991. 1
  4992. 1
  4993. 1
  4994. 1
  4995. 1
  4996. 1
  4997. 1
  4998. 1
  4999. 1
  5000. 1
  5001. 1
  5002. 1
  5003. 1
  5004. 1
  5005. 1
  5006. 1
  5007. 1
  5008. 1
  5009. 1
  5010. 1
  5011. 1
  5012. 1
  5013. 1
  5014. 1
  5015. 1
  5016. 1
  5017. 1
  5018. 1
  5019. 1
  5020. 1
  5021. 1
  5022. 1
  5023. 1
  5024. 1
  5025. 1
  5026. 1
  5027. 1
  5028. 1
  5029. 1
  5030. 1
  5031. 1
  5032. 1
  5033. 1
  5034. 1
  5035. 1
  5036. 1
  5037. 1
  5038. 1
  5039. 1
  5040. 1
  5041. 1
  5042. 1
  5043. 1
  5044. 1
  5045. 1
  5046. 1
  5047. 1
  5048. 1
  5049. 1
  5050. 1
  5051. 1
  5052. 1
  5053. 1
  5054. 1
  5055. 1
  5056. 1
  5057. 1
  5058. 1
  5059. 1
  5060. 1
  5061. 1
  5062. 1
  5063. 1
  5064. 1
  5065. 1
  5066. 1
  5067. 1
  5068. 1
  5069. 1
  5070. 1
  5071. 1
  5072. 1
  5073. 1
  5074. 1
  5075. 1
  5076. 1
  5077. 1
  5078. 1
  5079. 1
  5080. 1
  5081. 1
  5082. 1
  5083. 1
  5084. 1
  5085. 1
  5086. 1
  5087. 1
  5088. 1
  5089. 1
  5090. 1
  5091. 1
  5092. 1
  5093. 1
  5094. 1
  5095. 1
  5096. 1
  5097. 1
  5098. 1
  5099. 1
  5100. 1
  5101. 1
  5102. 1
  5103. 1
  5104. 1
  5105. 1
  5106. 1
  5107. 1
  5108. 1
  5109. 1
  5110. 1
  5111. 1
  5112. 1
  5113. 1
  5114. 1
  5115. 1
  5116. 1
  5117. 1
  5118. 1
  5119. 1
  5120. 1
  5121. 1
  5122. 1
  5123. 1
  5124. 1
  5125. 1
  5126. 1
  5127. 1
  5128. 1
  5129. 1
  5130. 1
  5131. 1
  5132. 1
  5133. 1
  5134. 1
  5135. 1
  5136. 1
  5137. 1
  5138. 1
  5139. 1
  5140. 1
  5141. 1
  5142. 1
  5143. 1
  5144. 1
  5145. 1
  5146. 1
  5147. 1
  5148. 1
  5149. 1
  5150. 1
  5151. 1
  5152. 1
  5153. 1
  5154. 1
  5155. 1
  5156. 1
  5157. 1
  5158. 1
  5159. 1
  5160. 1
  5161. 1
  5162. 1
  5163. 1
  5164. 1
  5165. 1
  5166. 1
  5167. 1
  5168. 1
  5169. 1
  5170. 1
  5171. 1
  5172. 1
  5173. 1
  5174. 1
  5175. 1
  5176. 1
  5177. 1
  5178. 1
  5179. 1
  5180. 1
  5181. 1
  5182. 1
  5183. 1
  5184. 1
  5185. 1
  5186. 1
  5187. 1
  5188. 1
  5189. 1
  5190. 1
  5191. 1
  5192. 1
  5193. 1
  5194. 1
  5195. 1
  5196. 1
  5197. 1
  5198. 1
  5199. 1
  5200. 1
  5201. 1
  5202. 1
  5203. 1
  5204. 1
  5205. 1
  5206. 1
  5207. 1
  5208. 1
  5209. 1
  5210. 1
  5211. 1
  5212. 1
  5213. 1
  5214. 1
  5215. 1
  5216. 1
  5217. 1
  5218. 1
  5219. 1
  5220. 1
  5221. 1
  5222. 1
  5223. 1
  5224. 1
  5225. 1
  5226. 1
  5227. 1
  5228. 1
  5229. 1
  5230. 1
  5231. 1
  5232. 1
  5233. 1
  5234. 1
  5235. 1
  5236. 1
  5237. 1
  5238. 1
  5239. 1
  5240. 1
  5241. 1
  5242. 1
  5243. 1
  5244. 1
  5245. 1
  5246. 1
  5247. 1
  5248. 1
  5249. 1
  5250. 1
  5251. 1
  5252. 1
  5253. 1
  5254. 1
  5255. 1
  5256. 1
  5257. 1
  5258. 1
  5259. 1
  5260. 1
  5261. 1
  5262. 1
  5263. 1
  5264. 1
  5265. 1
  5266. 1
  5267. 1
  5268. 1
  5269. 1
  5270. 1
  5271. 1
  5272. 1
  5273. 1
  5274. 1
  5275. 1
  5276. 1
  5277. 1
  5278. 1
  5279. 1
  5280. 1
  5281. 1
  5282. 1
  5283. 1
  5284. 1
  5285. 1
  5286. 1
  5287. 1
  5288. 1
  5289. 1
  5290. 1
  5291. 1
  5292. 1
  5293. 1
  5294. 1
  5295. 1
  5296. 1
  5297. 1
  5298. 1
  5299. 1
  5300. 1
  5301. 1
  5302. 1
  5303. 1
  5304. 1
  5305. 1
  5306. 1
  5307. 1
  5308. 1
  5309. 1
  5310. 1
  5311. 1
  5312. 1
  5313. 1
  5314. 1
  5315. 1
  5316. 1
  5317. 1
  5318. 1
  5319. 1
  5320. 1
  5321. 1
  5322. 1
  5323. 1
  5324. 1
  5325. 1
  5326. 1
  5327. 1
  5328. 1
  5329. 1
  5330. 1
  5331. 1
  5332. 1
  5333. 1
  5334. 1
  5335. 1
  5336. 1
  5337. 1
  5338. 1
  5339. 1
  5340. 1
  5341. 1
  5342. 1
  5343. 1
  5344. 1
  5345. 1
  5346. 1
  5347. 1
  5348. 1
  5349. 1
  5350. 1
  5351. 1
  5352. 1
  5353. 1
  5354. 1
  5355. 1
  5356. 1
  5357. 1
  5358. 1
  5359. 1
  5360. 1
  5361. 1
  5362. 1
  5363. 1
  5364. 1
  5365. 1
  5366. 1
  5367. 1
  5368. 1
  5369. 1
  5370. 1
  5371. 1
  5372. 1
  5373. 1
  5374. 1
  5375. 1
  5376. 1
  5377. 1
  5378. 1
  5379. 1
  5380. 1
  5381. 1
  5382. 1
  5383. 1
  5384. 1
  5385. 1
  5386. 1
  5387. 1
  5388. 1
  5389. 1
  5390. 1
  5391. 1
  5392. 1
  5393. 1
  5394. 1
  5395. 1
  5396. 1
  5397. 1
  5398. 1
  5399. 1
  5400. 1
  5401. 1
  5402. 1
  5403. 1
  5404. 1
  5405. 1
  5406. 1
  5407. 1
  5408. 1
  5409. 1
  5410. 1
  5411. 1
  5412. 1
  5413. 1
  5414. 1
  5415. 1
  5416. 1
  5417. 1
  5418. 1
  5419. 1
  5420. 1
  5421. 1
  5422. 1
  5423. 1
  5424. In long range Artillery you have to correct for BOTH the curvature of the Earth AND the rotation of the Earth. Here are some links to the US Navy Ordinance and Gunnery fire control Volume two. The first link is a manually computed fire control solution for a 5 inch 38 caliber gun shooting at a target 10,100 yards away. If you will notice under the Trunnion and Curvature section the correction for the curvature of the Earth is entered at 21.5 feet. http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/USNAVY/CHAPTER-17-D.html In this link is a range table for a US Navy 8 inch 55 caliber gun. If you look at pages 449-452 they list the corrections made for the rotation of the Earth AKA the Coriolis Effect. Notice how those values change depending on your latitude. http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/USNAVY/FC-APPENDIX-B-8IN-55.html My experiences as a gunners mate on board the USS Iowa BB61 proves the Earth is round and rotates. In the late 80's we still used the MK-8 Rangekeeper analog fire control computer that was used to control the guns in WW2. While a amazing piece of analog technology it did not have the ability to correct for the Earth's curvature or Rotation in real time. Those corrections had to be entered manually into the computer. We had to do this EVERY time we fired the guns. If we did not our accuracy would be WAY off the mark. Unless someone can provide a reasonable explanation on why we would correct for curvature AND rotation of the Earth with EVERY shot if these things did not exist. I will take my $100,000 in small bills please.
    1
  5425. 1
  5426. 1
  5427. 1
  5428. 1
  5429. 1
  5430. 1
  5431. 1
  5432. 1
  5433. 1
  5434. 1
  5435. 1
  5436. 1
  5437. 1
  5438. 1
  5439. 1
  5440. 1
  5441. 1
  5442. 1
  5443. 1
  5444. 1
  5445. 1
  5446. 1
  5447. 1
  5448. 1
  5449. 1
  5450. 1
  5451. 1
  5452. 1
  5453. 1
  5454. 1
  5455. 1