Comments by "Paul Aiello" (@paul1979uk2000) on "The breakup of the United Kingdom?" video.

@Akinwalesegun Really, we both know Russia doesn't like the UK because we are too close to the US, China isn't going to like that either, Spain are on less friendly terms with the UK at the moment and with them being an EU member, if they did push on taking the island back, they likely would get the backing of the EU because the UK and EU are not on friendly terms. As for Argentina, they didn't like what happened during the Falkland wars and could be just waiting for the right moment, Brexit weakens the UK around the world and Russia are known for helping others in these kinds of events, the US likely won't care because they don't benefit either way and considering we have the Republicans that want to screw the UK over and the Democrats that want to distance themselves from any popularize movement which Brexit is part off, it doesn't look good for the UK, but if it makes you feel any better, it's unlikely any moves will be made any time soon but don't kid yourself, with Brexit, the UK is geo-politically and economically weaker by that, the question is, how much weaker.
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@xELYAHUx I wouldn't rule it out, Spain and Argentina will fancy their chances on that with Brexit being more isolated, think about it, the EU is more likely to side with Spain, Russia would likely help Argentina out, the US likely won't care because with the Republicans, they seem more interested in screwing the UK over and the Democrats don't want to go anywhere near anything that is seen as a popularise movements with how things have gone with Trump and sadly for the UK, Brexit is seen as a popularise movement, we're even getting on the wrong side of China now. A lot of countries will see the UK as weaken after Brexit and many will likely fancy their chances to take advantage of that. Another factor for the US, from their point of view, they likely like the idea of a weaker UK because it likely puts the UK more under the thumb of the US to control.
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I think the real problem with the UK union is, what are the actually benefits for its members? I say that because if you look at Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales, they are all doing much worse than England is doing and even England, too much of the wealth is focused in the south of England, that is where the real problem is in the UK. If you look at GDP per capita of each of the member, Scotland and Wales are doing worse than almost all EU countries in the west of around the same size and in the case of Northern Ireland, their GDP per capita is almost 3 times lower than the Republic of Ireland. You get a sense that the south of England is bleeding the rest of the union dry, after all, this union has been around along time so this gap in wealth shouldn't be there any more and it's ironic when you look at the EU and how it develops members once in the EU, it seems they do a much better job of it. As for the UK union falling apart, well, I think with Brexit and now the poor handling of the pandemic from the UK government, I think the odds are quite high that Scotland could leave within 5 years and Northern Ireland to follow, the worry for the rest of the UK is if those two rejoin the EU and become more successful for it as then Wales might want to leave. I've always seen Brexit as an English vanity project that's mostly living in the past of the glory days and with a government that keeps getting things wrong time after time and them likely being in power with a majority for the next 5 years, the damage they can do the UK union is likely going to tip Scotland over the edge to leave and with that, a domino effect can happen. So yes, I do think the days are numbered for the UK union and this is mostly because as a country, the UK has changed a lot over the last few years and not for the better. On another note with the special relationship with the US, I have to ask, what does the UK gain out of that that France doesn't have? It seems to cause the UK more problems than it's worth, also on another note, Brexit weakens the UK in that we have no say in the EU and that matters to a lot of players around the world, especially the US because they want a big player in the EU that can get things done, now the UK isn't that player being outside the EU and that could change the balance in that the US might want to have a special relationship with France or Germany, any country that can help shape things in the EU as that is far more important to the US than the UK is as we are too small as a country.
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@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive It won't have anything to do with the Military, it will boil down to economics and Spain have Gibraltar where they want them on that, if they play hard ball, they could cripple Gibraltar, as for the EU, well what they do is hard to say but it's unlikely they would side with the UK with how the UK has been the last few years. I should also point out, this has nothing to do with what's fair and everything to do with how things are, look at Hong Kong for instance, as value goes, that is far valuable then Gibraltar to the UK and yet the UK give it up to China and all because of economic pressure, Spain or the EU could do the same to Gibraltar and what can the UK really do about it? Very little really. As for the Falklands, well the UK isn't on good terms with Russia or China at the moment, that could be easy pickings for Argentina if any of those other two powers step in, the US likely won't care so don't expect much help from them, in fact the Republicans seem to want to screw the UK over and the Democrats will say the UK is getting what it deserves by leaving the EU, even the EU will likely turn a blind eye on that one. Basically, Brexit is a big opening for others to take advantage of the UK, now it's just a matter of timing on when they pull the trigger on that, I suspect they will wait and see if Scotland leaves the UK over the next few years as the UK will be even weaker then.
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@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive I suspect it could happen but in any event, the EU wouldn't assist directly, they'll just turn a blind eye to it, even the US would likely turn a blind eye because from their point of view, a weaker UK is easier to screw over and control and the US does like doing that. But personally, I don't think anything will happen until we see what goes on in Scotland with its independence movement, if that continues to pick up Steam, vultures will likely wait till they leave because the truth is, they don't really have any beef with Scotland, it's mostly England and the UK government they have beef with. You know the irony in all this Brexit farce, the EU is looking like the ones we could get a decent deal from if the UK isn't so stubborn because looking at all the other players, it looks like the terms are going to be worse. Even the US, if Trump wins, the Republicans have already shown they want to screw the UK over, if the Democrats wins, they will want to repair ties with the EU and will want to distance themselves away from anything like Trump, they see Brexit as part of that popularize movement, the UK can't afford to be on the wrong side of both the EU and US and it's looking like that is the way it's going.
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@Yoshimitsu420 Most of those countries don't care about the UK any more, as far as they see it, the UK stabbed them in the back in the 70's and beside, most of them see the UK as a declining power, why do you think Canada speeded up it's trade talks with the EU? They want to be less exposed to the US and they see the EU as the only other power thats like them in a lot of areas like the social system, economy and political view points, Japan did the same thing because they see the US as going off the rail so are creating closer ties to the EU. The only country that might get close to the UK is Australia but that's more out of fear of China, basically, many of the others are seeing the UK go off the rails just like the US is doing, so why would they want to get close to a country that is becoming more fanatical when the EU isn't? As for the Commonwealth, it's just a talking shop, it's got no legs, the countries in it are so different from each other and spread so thinly around the world with very different view points from each other a level of economics that it would never work.
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@mranonymous5550 I wouldn't count on that, support is pretty high in Scotland for leaving the UK and polls rarely get it wrong by that much, throw in Brexit and the harm that will do and support could go even higher. It wouldn't surprise me if Scotland has a vote either late next year or early the year after and they won't need permission of the UK government because just like Brexit which was an advisory vote turned into a real vote, Scotland could do the same thing because they know if the people vote to leave the UK, there would be little to nothing the UK could do to stop them without creating a revolution. If Scotland leaves and the EU lets them back in which I suspect the EU would be over the moon to crave up the UK, Northern Ireland would likely be next. I also find it ironic how Brexiteers kept telling us how the EU would brake up over Brexit and yet there are no signs of that but it does look like the UK union could fall apart, if that happens, that would be seen as humiliating for the UK from the outside world.
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@roman648 Pretty much, we see that with big new projects, a lot of the time they are down south in London or close by but it's still true that England benefits more from this union than any other members, just that in the England, there is a massive north-south divide, it's almost a mirror image of Italy but the north is rich compared to the south. If Scotland and Northern Ireland does break away from the UK, money is going to be tighter in the UK and that likely means less money for the north of England, basically, there's a good chance that Brexit could screw over the people that voted for it the most, after all, a lot of the south voted to remain just as Scotland did so why should they pay for the mess the north of England created? They likely won't and we'll likely see that over the next decade.
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@roman648 But let's be honest, it's been happening for quite some time already with devolution, basically, each of the UK members are going in different directions, the long term conclusion of that is likely them leaving the UK union, Brexit is just another spanner in the works on that but it was building even before all that. All I do know is that if you look at Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales and compare them to other western European countries, the UK members are actually doing worse and you have to wonder where the benefits of the UK union are when others that are not in the UK are doing better off, Scotland size and population is close to the Republic of Ireland, with a lot of work, there isn't much reason why Scotland can't emulate their success, especially with EU help. Anyway, the problem is that the south of England are not going to listen that a lot more investment is needed up north, even more so because of Brexit and this pandemic, money is going to be a lot tighter now so expect more wealth to be kept down south, that's a sure fire way for Scotland to want to leave but then the UK government will try to bribe them with a lot of money and resources and then the rest of the other countries as well as the North of England will kick up a fuss and want much of the same. The UK has some major problems ahead and this could go two ways, either the south has to give up a lot of wealth which is unlikely or the other members slowly leave one by one.
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@roman648 The thing is, those 3 countries in the UK should be doing better being inside the UK then countries going it alone but clearly it's not working and for me that doesn't bold well for the UK with Brexit because there are many signs that Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales can go it alone without the UK and do better, especially inside the EU. As for the UK union, I think it depends on Brexit but we should remember that the cracks have been showing on the union well before Brexit, the UK leaving the EU just puts fuel on the fire and throw in the arrogance and poor handling of this pandemic from our government, many are starting to wonder if they can deal with it better themselves then having the UK government make a mess of things but even if it does happen, I doubt it will happen quickly and part of it could also be the message the EU gives out to them. I already think the UK is weaker on the world stage thanks to Brexit, a disunited union will be even weaker but I do have to wonder with the US, I've always sensed that their interest in the UK is in part with what the UK can get done in the EU, the UK being outside the EU makes the UK less useful for them now and the US will likely want some kind of special relationship with France or Germany, someone that can help shape policies in the EU, that I feel is a lot more important to the US than the UK is. Anyway, it will be interesting to watch the next 5 years on Brexit and the pandemic, it will be very interesting to also watch how closely the UK mirrors EU laws, rules and regulations to reduce red tape because ironically, it's in our interest to be as close to them in a lot of key areas to reduce cost and friction for businesses and the economy but that does fly in the way of what Brexit was supposed to be but the problem with diverging, it adds a lot more red tape.
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@canzuk6621 Actually I was meant to say they rarely get it wrong when the margins are big, if it's close they've been getting it wrong but the polls for Scotland are massive that it's unlikely they've got it wrong there, they usually only get it wrong by a few percentage point and going on the polls in Scotland, that would be a easy win for independence, hence the rush to have a vote.
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@canzuk6621 Scotland doesn't need permission from Boris on this, Scotland can simply have an advisor vote a bit like we did with Brexit and if the numbers are clearly in favour of leaving the UK, good luck to the UK government in trying to stop that. Beside, tactically speaking, it would be a bad move for the UK government to not give them that vote as that would likely get more Scots to vote to leave if they feel the UK is dictating things to them, best thing they can do is give them a vote and make a case on why they should stay but this government isn't that bright and will likely use hardline tactics on them which will likely backfire. Anyway, the reason Scotland deserves a vote is because they voted to stay in the EU whiles the England part of the union voted to leave, a lot has changed over the last few years that another vote is warranted, a lot was promised on Brexit that isn't being delivered and that is playing right into the hands of the Scots that want to leave the UK union. I suspect a vote will happen either late next year or early the year after depending on if we sort this virus out, Scotland will likely want to wait to allow the damage of Brexit to really kick in as that is likely going to make it easier to win the vote. Now normally I would agree with you in the once in a lifetime vote but Brexit was a right shit show with so many lies that it's not as clear cut as Brexiteers want, chances are, Brexit is going to rage on years after Brexit is done, especially if living standards take a hit, in other words, getting out of the EU is the easy part for the Brexiteers, the hard part is making a success of it and that doesn't look good so far.
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@canzuk6621 Maybe so but so much has happened over the last 4 years and polls are showing close to 60% of scots wanting to leave the UK, whatever you might think of polls, they rarely get it wrong by that margin so those numbers are very alarming and that could get worse once we start to feel the impact of Brexit at a personal level. But in the end, what's really playing into the hands of the independence movement in Scotland is that Northern Ireland are more or less following the rules of the EU and Scotland just recently passed a law to mirror a lot of EU rules overtime, it's clear to see that they could end up diverging away from the rest of the UK or more likely, it puts a lot of pressure on the rest of the UK to mirror a lot of the rules of the EU, in a sense, we are becoming rule takers without any say and that explains why the EU seems so happy about this deal, they more or less got what they wanted from us. As for Wales, they voted for Brexit so it will be a tougher sell for them to break away from the rest of the UK, not to mention that they are closer to the rest of England but it could happen there as well but it seems unlikely any time soon.
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@alanmcgowan3457 The EU would likely help on that and beside, the population of Northern Ireland is quite small so it shouldn't be much of a problem absorbing them, especially with EU help. The real threat is Scotland for now but Northern Ireland could follow shortly afterwards, especially because the rule set in both Northern Ireland and Scotland are likely to be closer to the EU than the rest of the UK if the UK tries to diverge too much from EU norms. Anyway, the next 5 years are going to be very interesting.
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@canzuk6621 We're not done yet lol, in fact, it looks like we might be just starting, think about it, Scotland and Northern Ireland are more or less mirroring EU rules, the EU has full access to our waters for 5.5 years, likely to be extended at the time and more importantly is the concession the UK government ended up making in having such open trade with the EU, in other words, we more or less have to follow a lot of their rules without having a say in making them to have such access to the market. Brexiteers have been sold down the rival that the smarter Brexiteers can see that lol, it's no wonder the EU seems over the moon on this.
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@kamanashiskar9203 Spain can do a lot and now with EU backing, I think it could be only a matter of time before we see joint ownership of Gibraltar. Or lets put it another way, Hong Kong was given away to China and the value of Hong Kong is far higher to the UK than Gibraltar is, the UK won't want to lose it so they'll likely make a deal with Spain on it, either way, Spain are in a much better bargaining position now thanks to Brexit, made all the worse because Gibraltar is very dependent on Spain for trade and workers.
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@kamanashiskar9203 I'm sure they will but pressure does wonders in the art of negotiating, after all, do you think the UK wanted to give Hong Kong to China? Especially as the value of that is far higher than Gibraltar is. Now don't get me wrong, the UK won't want to give up Gibraltar and maybe the best they can hope for is joint ownership of the island, this is also not the only thing that's likely going to get contested, Argentina could very well make a play for the Falkland island, with Brexit, many will smell weakness from the UK and will take advantage of it, especially now they know the EU members won't help us and the US under Biden won't care as he's more interested in repairing ties with the EU. In any case, if any of these moves play out, it won't happen overnight as they know they've got all the time in the world to play on this as the EU is likely only going to get stronger whiles the UK gets weaker, heck it wouldn't even surprise me if Russia helps Argentina out as they don't like the UK.
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@alantan9863 The idea that the UK would use gunboat was laughable to most never mind nukes lol, still it's going to be interesting to see when Spain makes a move on Gibraltar now that they know they have a much stronger hand and likely have EU backing on that whereas when the UK was part of the EU, the EU stayed out of it whereas now they'll likely do the bidding of it's member, in this case, Spain.
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@shihtzu291 Really, so Margaret Thatcher didn't ask military adviser on if the UK could hold onto Hong Kong if a military conflict broke out? I remember it at the time and the pressure China was putting on the UK to hand over Hong Kong, I also remember how they were not happy about it at the time, especially the royals. So the real question is, what's next, Gibraltar? Falkland Island? with Gibraltar, Spain all of a sudden has a much stronger hand as the EU would likely back Spain if they put a lot of pressure on the UK, as for the Falkland Island, well Argentina can buy their time on that one, heck even the Russians would help them out on that, many countries around the world will smell weakness from the UK and could take advantage of them and worse of all, we don't have the EU to help us out and have a US with Biden that is more interested in repairing ties with the EU than getting into bed with the UK which he sees Brexit in the same light as Trump.
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@shihtzu291 Now now, put your toys back in your pram, I know you don't like what I say so you say you don't want to waste your time on it which usually translates into not being able to argue the case at hand, that's a very Brexiteer thing to do. But really, do your research.
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@shihtzu291 Why should I fight for a country? that reminds me of the Iraqi war where many did fight even thought it wasn't for a just cause, if I'm going to fight for something, it's going to be something that is right and not for a country based on bad policies, I'll leave that for the mugs out there. Why would I want to piss on Britain? I'm British, born and breed here and living all my life here, but in any case, I'm not going to lower my intelligence because some in the media and government wants us to be stupid, it's always best to have critical thinking, something Brexiteers do a poor job on, hence their position in life. As for respect, well respect is earned, both the UK with Brexit and the handling of it and the US with Trump has lost a lot of respect from many around the world, respect is not automatic or given because of past achievements, it's earned.
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@shihtzu291 You want to know something funny, I did consider joining the military when I was a kid but changed my mind once I found out they could send you to war even in wars you don't beleave in, if I did join, I would have been in Afghanistan or Iraq, 2 wars I didn't beleave in so I dodge a bullet there. The 9/11 terrorist attacks on New York were a very different thing then invading Iraq and Afghanistan, most of the British people at the time didn't approve of those actions and it ended up being the downfall of Tony Blair. Now don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem defending my own country for the right reasons but I'm not going to be a mug and do the bidding of the Americans in an unjust war, beside, have you ever wondered why they force people into those wars that have signed up to the military? because it's much easier to do that then to win those troops over in a just war, basically, they want mugs or if you prefer, cannon fodder.
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@vodkabullet4066 It wouldn't be Spain vs the UK, it would be Spain with EU backing vs the UK and you can bet the EU would back Spain with how the UK has been with the EU over the last 4 years.
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@vodkabullet4066 It's hard to say, but I think things are going to get ugly with Scotland and maybe Northern Ireland and if they do pull out of the UK, it will very likely be within 5 years.
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@shihtzu291 Not saying it was, but Britain didn't want any part of it, there was even mass protest against it at the time with around 70% of the public against it but it happened regardless. It's one thing to go after the terrorist on 9/11, it's another to invade Iraq and Afghanistan which Iraq had nothing to do with it but they came up with some crap about WMD which they are still supposedly looking for and you want me to be a mug and fight for that? Don't get me wrong, I will fight for the right cause but I'm not going to fight to enrich some elites which is really what that was all about. Now don't get me wrong, I would love to see liberal democracy cleans up the world from countries that are in war or under dictatorships and that's a cause I would support, but lets not kid ourselves, western governments are quite happy to support those dictators if it suits their agenda, they do it all the time and in that sense, I would have joined the army if I had the choice in choosing a just war and not being forced into any wars which half the time are designed to enrich the elites.
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@shihtzu291 The Afghanistan war was more just I'll agree but they only really went in because of the trigger of 9/11 and I'm not asking you to care what I think, I'm simply saying, I ain't being a mug.
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@JackTheSlayer-ok5eq I remember reading up a few years ago that the UK didn't want to give Hong Kong away and was even willing to go to war over it, during the Margaret Thatcher days, she even asked if the UK could take on China's military which ended up being a resounding no so the UK when for the next tactic of delay with the intention of delaying all the time but China didn't play ball and only allowed the UK to delay till 1997. You have to wonder, if the UK had to give up Hong Kong, it wouldn't take much of a push for the UK to have to give up Gibraltar or the Falkland Island as Hong Kong is worth way more than those are.
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@JackTheSlayer-ok5eq True Spain doesn't have nukes but that's by choice, they are advanced enough that if they wanted nukes, they would build them but for now, there's little to no reason to do so. What we should remember about Gibraltar and Spain is that Spain is an EU member and it's the task for the EU to do the bidding of it's members and protect the interest of it's members, whiles the UK was an EU member, the EU stayed out of it and was neutral on that, now the UK has Brexit, that changes the dynamics in favour of Spain. That doesn't mean they'll attack of anything like that, they don't have too, they can put a lot of political and economic pressure, knowing the EU will likely have their backs, sooner or later that could push the UK into either giving it up or more likely, joint ownership of Gibraltar. That's not the only ones that could be at risk, the Falkland Island could be as Argentina might fancy their chances on that as now the UK doesn't have the EU backing, the US likely doesn't care either way and the UK isn't on good terms with the likes of Russia which could help Argentina out. When the UK was an EU member, we was untouchable, no country was really going to mess with an EU member knowing what that could mean but now the UK out of the EU is in a much weaker and more vulnerable position that many around the world will take advantage of in time but most will likely wait till the UK declines some more, some at least a decade off before anything major happens.
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@JackTheSlayer-ok5eq Don't worry about it, I'm usually slower when it comes to replying lol. The EU isn't a military defence pact yet but it's clear they are moving in that direction, NATO is good for what it is but it's too centralized around American interest and beside, there's nothing stopping a EU military being part of NATO, in fact, it would actually be a lot more useful in helping the US out around the world. The EU would never just stop trading with the UK, economic war fair doesn't work that way any more, the EU will change the rules that favour it's self at the expense of the UK, basically, there are many ways to skin a cat and there is little the UK can do to stop the EU from doing it as they are a lot bigger. The sad reality is, the UK hasn't made any friends in the EU or it's members, if they get tough with the UK, there's not much the UK can do apart from complain but considering the UK is making it easy for the EU to get tough and tough by legal means, it's not looking good for the UK and I don't think things are going to settle until the Tories are out of power because they are the problem.
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@geox8485 For now but look at the worry going on from DUP supporters in Northern Ireland, what do you think is going on there? They know that the deal the UK signed with the EU is pulling Northern Ireland closer to the Republic and by extension, closer to the EU, give that time and it's going to be easier for Northern Ireland to leave the UK and become part of the Republic. Gibraltar is in the same boat where it's interest are being tied to Spain and the EU, again, give that time and that will change views of the people in that region, especially when it comes to economic matters. In any case, the EU played a blinder with the deal it signed, the UK fell right into it and now the UK doesn't know what to do because it can't renegotiate unless the EU says so and they are not likely going to do so shortly after it was signed, basically, the EU has the UK exactly where they wanted them and now it's just starting to dawn on the UK how bad the deal is for us, in the sense that it's creating more division in the UK and friction among it's members.
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@geox8485 From the research I've done, most don't care apart from DUP supporters which is a small percentage but among the young generation, there seems to be more support for rejoining the Republic and it seems to be growing, Brexit is likely helping that too. If you look at standards of living, Northern Ireland has a GDP per capita 3 times lower than the Republic and it's very low compared to England, Scotland and Wales, if I was Irish living in Northern Ireland, I would be thinking, what on earth is the UK union doing to Northern Ireland. Think about it, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland do worse them almost all small modern European countries in the west or in the EU, people should be asking why are these countries performing so poorly compared to other western European countries? could it be the UK union is holding them back? who knows but it doesn't look good for the UK for them to be performing so bad. As for Gibraltar, they will do what's in their own self-interest, like it or not, trade with Spain and the rest of the EU is going to be very important to them and now the UK is out of the EU, that could pull Gibraltar further away from the UK just like it's doing with Northern Ireland and that will change public views on this.
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@geox8485 Houses are usually always expensive in countries with limited land mass and that are rich and beside, I've been to Northern Ireland and the Republic, Northern Ireland is quite poor in comparison and you see that with the towns, too many are run down. As for Gibraltar, it's too early to say but they are being pulled away by trade thanks to Brexit in the same way that Northern Ireland is being pulled away from the UK because of Brexit, that in time pushes their interest more in line with the Republic of Ireland and Spain, hence why the DUP is so worried in Northern Ireland. In any case, it will be interesting to see how things pan out over the next 5 or 10 years because almost all the predictions the Brexiteers said have not come true whereas a lot of the ones remainders said are but got dismissed as project fear, in fact, many in the UK thought the EU would fall apart without the UK, it's looking more like the UK is at risk of that. It all boils down to people seeing what they want to see and not seeing how things are, hence why the EU got by far a better deal out of Brexit and why the UK side is constantly complaining about this so called great deal they signed.
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@geox8485 With Gibraltar I agree, that will take some time if it ever happened because the UK might be back in the EU by then lol. Northern Ireland is a different story, among the younger people, there is a lot less opposition to unification with the Republic, thanks to Brexit, now there is a lot of economic sense in doing so. As for Scotland, they don't trust the English and Brexit doesn't help on that, then throw in the pandemic which is going to be costly for many years, that will likely play into the hands that want independence in Scotland and Northern Ireland and it might even with some EU members but it's unlikely with them because, what's the alternative? Scotland and Northern Ireland have a clear alternative, EU members don't.
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@martinrye712 Depends who you ask, most I've seen shows more support for independence in Scotland with support growing for that moving in Northern Ireland to rejoin the Republic, hence the DUP going ape lately. Beside, polls have not been very accurate the last few years, hence Breexit. The irony is, the longer this Tory government is in power, the more likely Scotland and Northern Ireland will leave, they are basically making the situation worse by keeping divisions going in the UK, keeping the war going with the EU to try and pin the Brexit blame on them for all the mess the Tories are doing in the UK and it gets even better now the Tories have lied about levelling up the North with that train expansion, who didn't see that coming? This is the Tories we are talking about, expecting them to care for the north when it's mostly London that matters to them will be the day, the irony is, the ones that put them into power are the ones that are being shitted on and rightly so and with any luck, lets hope that continues, maybe then those people might learn a few things, either way, those people are playing perfectly into the hands of the independence movement and I have to say, it's shocking how stupid the DUP have been, I mean really, did they not see it coming? lol.
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@martinrye712 It doesn't work that way and it's wouldn't be by force, it will likely be by economics, beside, I don't think Spain will get Gibraltar outright but there's a fair chance that the UK and Spain could get joint ownership of it and clearly the EU will be on the side of one of it's members, now it's just a matter of when it happens and what form it takes but the UK isn't in a good position to defend it both politically and economically. Political pressure from around the world, really, most of the world don't care about the UK and are not going to come to the aid of the UK over such a small island, especially with how the UK has been the last few years, the US won't care and will want friendlier relations with the EU to keep China in check, the UK is pretty much on their own on that one. Now the real question is if Argentina makes a play for the Falkland Islands, they likely fancy their chances now the UK is a lot more isolated, the US didn't want to help decades ago when that happened and it ended up being the French helping the UK out on that at the time, good luck getting their help this time. The truth is, the UK has not conducted themselves in a good way that very few countries will come to the aid of the UK now, the UK wanted to go it's own way, wanted independence, that pretty much what is happening but not just from the EU but pretty much the world as a lot of countries are seeing weakness in the UK which many have or will take advantage off.
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@martinrye712 I listen to any opinions if it makes sense, unfortunately, most don't, basically, most see what they want to see and not what is, hence why what we are seeing with Brexit is happening which is basically the EU has a far better deal over the UK then the other way around, hence the UK government keep getting desperate to change the deal, the truth is, the EU always had the better hand and still does. The real question is, how much will the Tories sink the country before the Brexiteers realise they've been had, to get a bit of an idea on that, look at that train expansion in the north or lack off, that's Tory 101, use the north to get what they want which was Brexit then discard them after, you have to wonder what made the Brexiteers think the Tories cared about their interest when we've had decades of them showing the opposites, so yeah, I am smug about that lol.
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@martinrye712 It's not much of a democracy if the Conservatives and Labour Party are our only options, maybe we need to grow a spine in the UK are start voting differently, after all, look what happened in France with Macron, is party has never been in power until now and in fact, I don't think they even existed 10 years ago, if they can vote for change, so can we. That's the problem with the UK and US, the system is rigged in favour of the two main parties that make it difficult or almost impossible for others to become elected, that alone should be a good enough reason for Scotland and Northern Ireland to want to leave the UK to have a proper democracy where our votes actually count.
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@martinrye712 The US wouldn't give the green light but they likely wouldn't really say anything on the subject because they don't care unless it's in their interest, in fact, if it weakens the UK, they might actually want that so the UK is more under their thumb. But my main point is that the UK is in a much weaker position thanks to Brexit and others might take advantage of that knowing the Europeans won't likely come to the UK's aid and they likely know the US won't care. This could also be a lot worse for the UK if the UK loses Scotland and Northern Ireland, which is a real possibility thanks to Brexit.
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