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It's rich to hear the climate science denier praise western science.
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Sorry, but Americans are just clueless - on both sides. Joy Behar: Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Denmark are not "socialist"! Having universial health care doesn't make you socialist. Scandinavian countries are largely shaped by "social democrat" (NOT "democratic socialist") governments. ... and then this stupid idea that you can reject any argument using examples from other countries by saying that the US is so exceptional that it can't be compared to anything smaller. JESUS! it's stupid. ... then f*cking create 50 Norways if you think that. Go ahead ... shoot your self in the foot. ... oh wait... you already did that.
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Yeah... or Dane. Why on Earth would I want to set foot in the US? Get your democracy, gun control, healthcare and environmental policies sorted out... then we can maybe talk.
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Molyneux is a crazy cult leader. And Rubin is at best naive and full of shit. But I don't understand this urge to always try to smear Sam Harris with these guys. Have you listened to what Harris says about Molyneux?
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Was I the only one who heard Joe Rogan say that there was a whole bunch of socioeconomic factors about this he wouldn't even pretend to understand? Jesus! ... sometimes the Majority Report is actively searching for something to be offended over.
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Tim Pool is bizarre ...
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Tim Pool has really become a sad existence lately.
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Michael Brooks really come of as desperately trying to promote a rather despicable smear agenda.
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As someone who think both Dave Rubin and Nigel Farage are idiots ... this is just a cheap shot. You can blame him for not researching this women, but you cannot conclude that he's a racist for that negligence.
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Oh... there are "white" people who question where they want to move to the US too ... As an example, I don't think Trump should expect many of the Norwegians he wants to wish to move from Norway. Tucker Carlson is an idiot.
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Yes... exactly that. I also "looked away for a moment" and when I saw a video the other day he had gone full conspiracy theorist.
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Yeah... there is no surprise and no "pivot" in this. But Sam did give Rubin a bit too much benefit of doubt. Anyway... I don't even think Rubin is the name he wouldn't mention.
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Hehe ... So... instead of noticing that "conservatives" are silly when all then can is to fling around slurs like "libtards", you think it's a good idea to take it down to their level?
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Yes, Dave Rubin is an idiot... (don't know if he's payed to do it) ... but in my experience a lot of these "woke" people shows very little understanding for the basic principles of liberalism. They seem to put group and identity over the individual. - precisely not judging people by the content of their character, but on which groups they can associate them with. It actually earned Bret Weinstein a star in my book that he put it so clearly that Dave Rubin was not being honest in what he's doing. ... and I guess Sam Seder and Nomiki lost one, given that they couldn't get them selves to appreciate an honest criticism of Dave Rubin, but instead spend all the time trying to make fun of Bret. (and calling Bret "Conservative" ?!?!)
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@brianfinnegan9700 He's at best naive. And people who can't figure out that Trump is a real problem for liberal democracy and that PragerU is a fake University of science denial ... I have a real problem taking that serious.
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The problem is that 1) Ezra wants Sam to have a different discussion than the one he had. Sam wanted to talk to Murray because of the way he was treated (which, let's not forget, included violence). They had to talk about what the scientific topic was as a part of that. But Ezra wanted him to talk about politics... Sam is very explicit about this. Including in the clips played here: "I'm worried about the social penalty for talking about these things" THAT was the topic. 2) Ezra was simply not honest about the public smearing he had done when confronted with it. His nice words in 1-1 situations (the emails, the podcast) doesn't match the actual stuff published.
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Hitchens was right.
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This is embarrassing ... so, you haven't read anything from Sam Harris and you can't even remember what you've heard about it ... but you find it really disturbing. Some of us on the liberal/secular side are getting really tired of this nonsens from the political correct social justice warrior side. Remind me never to listen to Majority-report again.
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Yeah... exactly! ... It's complete bullshit when Trumps says "This question is creating violence". Can we now agree that terms like "microaggression" and "hate speech" are silly and are in no way comparable to violence?
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This is just so silly and sure to backfire for Sam Seder and friends. I think Dave Rubin is useless and Katie Hopkins too, but people are not that stupid that they just buy Sam Seders alternative narrative. The issue for actually thinking people is not at Muhammed married a 6 year old. It's that his way of live still to this day is presented as an example to follow. And people know this ... pretending that there's not an issue here will only achieve ONE thing: People will see that Sam Seder just tries to pretend any issue away, even the legitimate ones... and then they will flock even more around idiots like Rubin and Hopkins.
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@stephen0793 I'm pretty sure it was made clear in that interview that intelligence is NOT racially based, but that there is a statistically detectable genetic component ... which is a VERY different statement - if you know anything about statistics.
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Notice how Bernie has huge hands :)
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Yes... Sam.... you are right. Dave Rubin is a naive fool.
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That's just completely BS. Even Douglas Lain at some point has to remind Michael Brooks that's the generalization is not entirely fair because these people are not the same. I personally find people Jordan Peterson silly, Rubin incredible naive and Shapiro a jerk, but they are no way like Shermer, Harris and Bret Weinstein ... and none of them are "racist" as the smear goes. I dislike the idea of inventing the concept of an "Intellectual dark web" ... The mere naming of it creates a situation where it becomes hard to define its boundaries ... Not everybody agree what is sane intellectual discussion and what is not and there's an obvious risk of people wanting to include characters like Prager and Molyneux. There will always be differences of opinions, but Michael Brooks obviously has an irrational hate for Sam Harris and is very eager to smear him with the worst of these (like Milo) merely for him agreeing that there's a problem with SJW culture.
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Kinda like just ascribing the idea that Mike Pence's abortion law is related to his kind of Christianity as "christianophobia".
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When are you going to tell us what's really behind your grudge against Sam Harris? It's getting ridiculous by now ...
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Thank you for reminding me why I don't watch this show. Russel Brand just spewed word salad, interrupted, changed subject, and made it totally unbearable to listen to. That anyone can get away with the impression that he "schooled" anything is just insane...
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Well ... you can laugh at Ben Shapiro, but you have to remember that he is actually right about what he says. If the evangelicals actually believe "the left" to be like he describes, they will do as he describes. So your problem is not Ben Shapiro (although he's an idiot), it's that people actually believe this shit.
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I think Ben Shapiro is an idiot. - but I've actually never understood this gay marriage thing. If two religious people have different opinions. One think his God encourages gay marriage, and the other think his God says it's an abomination. Then... why don't they just realize that they worship 2 different Gods? Maybe that's because I don't get religion at all. But hey... yes. Religion shouldn't be tax exempt.
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Alternative theory: Journalism is about reporting facts. If one guy is a habitual liar ... sure... he will be challenged more.
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Sam Seder apparently doesn't know shit about what Sam Harris' "base" is. He seems to somehow think it's the same as Dave Rubin's fanboys - it's not.
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This is just sloppy argumentation.... There's no parallel between Dave Rubin and Sam Harris. Dave Rubin is just naively parroting talking-points of the fact-free right and basically just has one agenda... bitching about SJW nonsense (which is admirable, but single-issue). Everything else - even the fact-free nonsense of the right - just goes over Dave Rubins head. Sam Harris oth. approaches the world from a point of rational skepticism and reflects on arguments. The talk about Charles Murray criticism was AFAIR about the attacks made on him from the radical left SJW crowd... Yeah... they didn't talk much about the academic criticism of Charles Murray ... maybe they should have. But I don't believe for a second that Sam Harris would not enter such a discussion honestly.
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Somehow I'm more worried about whether American kids will actually learn any math.
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My God American public discourse is in a sad place.
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Dear Michael Brooks ... Heaven knows that I've been called a "libtard" hundreds of times... But after hearing your rant here I kinda understand why anyone would find that word relevant. The level of dishonesty you parade here is simply astonishing.
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I think he just don't know what secularism actually means. It has nothing to do with the woke nonsense.
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@Cdog-yn9dw You can always recognize someone too stupid to understand the post he's answering by his immediate resort to insulting people for their name. - Anonymous coward.
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@Cdog-yn9dw Oh... you're a clever boy.
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I have to say that I believe Bari Weiss ... I've almost done that several times. I'd find it much more damming for Bari Weiss if she still at this point believes he should be on the supreme court.
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+Kokainuser Let me try again: Can you provide an IN CONTEXT link to the quote you just attributed to Sam Harris?
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+Kokainuser It seems you don't understand the meaning of the words "context" and "reference". Or shall we conclude that there IS no where this quote is found actually coming out of Sams mouth/own writings ... and that it was just something you invented a few comments above?
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I regard myself as a classical liberal - meaning, liberalism in the classical way - like Thomas Paine. And I find Dave Rubin as an abomination.
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Guys... if you want to understand this, you have to realize that Sam Harris and Dave Rubin are very different. Rubin might have used Harris and some other actual liberal people as a stepping stone, but he has ended up in a very different and fact-free place.
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@MichaelAronson I often doubt that. There are countless of examples where Rubin and Harris have been lumped together on this and related channels. Rubin have been trying to drive the "IDW" narrative, but even those who also promoted this like Bret Weinstein have realized that Rubin have ended up in a very dark, dishonest and fact-free place.
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"Dr" ??? ... how? ... can't those titles be revoked for blatant displays of unscientific stupidity?
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" I'm 32 years old and I'm already so tired of my perceived intellect being juxtaposed to my blackness." huh?!?? When has Sam Harris ever said anything about you or any other individual?
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So ... those who have been paying attention to Sam Harris without Sam Seders prejudice are not really surprised about Sam Harris' rather blunt position here. Bret Weinstein has descended into a pseudo-scientific conspiracy theory ... it's as simple as that. Why, I don't know ... but I don't really care. I don't see Bret recovering his credibility here.
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Tough call ... I would vote for Crowder. At least the other two sometime can formulate a logically coherent sentence.
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" I disagree about Peterson, Harris, et al, not being having an element of racism to their schtick. Harris seems to make blanket statements about Muslims, " Sigh... No he doesn't. First of all ... Give me one single example of where he has made blanket statements about muslims. Secondly ... he criticizes "Islam" (or religious dogma in general) and - as you hopefully is aware of: Islam is not a race. Islam is a belief system, as is any religion. Not that much different from an ideology apart from the supernatural element. And we have to be able to criticize bad ideas. Ideologies of any kind, whether religious or not, can't be exempt from criticism. > "Like I mentioned in a previous post, try not to get triggered and emotional because I'm disagreeing with you." Doubling down on silly doesn't help your case.
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Well ... Socialism IS not the answer. Liberalism is ... the only reason socialism has gotten popular is because most politician who claim to be liberal has ended up being that only in name.
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