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Comments by "PM" (@pm71241) on "Medical Ethics & the Healthcare Debate (Pt. 1) | Jessica Flanigan | WOMEN | Rubin Report" video.
This whole argument of "forcing" people to provide you health care is completely absurd. In a single payer system like Denmark the hospital doctors are in the government pay role. It's their job. It's just as absurd as saying that the goverment is "forcing" the police officer to pull you over.
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No one is forced to take a government job as a doctor and anyone can quit when they want. You are building myths.
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That's a different question. That's about any government function. - and ultimately whether or not you think there should be a government at all. I happen to believe we need a government to protect the basic liberty values. However, as a Georgist, I would prefer that the funding came from rent of natural opportunities - in other words funds created not by individuals but by the entire society in the first place.
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But that's an argument for anarchy. If the premise is that we have already decided to not have anarchy and a government is needed, then the issue becomes "what should the government do and why?" ... and if there's a rationale for the government providing a certain society function, then it is totally irrelevant to people living in that society that that is enforced. You are of course always welcome to leave...
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I find the idea of anarchy rather naive... and I find calling that opinion for "thuggery" silly. Liberty is about some basic principles: 1) You own your self and you body. 2) You have the right to the fruit of your own labor. 3) Your personal freedom extends exactly so far as to not infringe on the equal freedom of others. A couple of observations here: * Natural opportunities (like land) are not the fruit of anyones labor and monopolizing them if limited requires compensation to others. * An unregulated marked is not necessarily a free market. There are plenty of ways a non-regulated marked can lock it self into a position where the market forces don't work anymore. Externalities are one. * Someone has to enforce that no one violates principle 3. As a Geo-libertarian, I believe that principle is valid across generations. We have no right to steel from our kids. Liberty is not achievable in an anarchy... And there are plenty of funds to fund the government which doesn't violate principle 2.
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"Who is your only possible employer... the government. " Nonsense.
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+Moses King Some days I long for a government who had the guts to say "fuck off" to those people who think they can reap the benefits of the state, without contributing. Remember never to set foot on a public road.
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+K W Nonsense... The Danish drug industry has huge surpluses. For 1) - it's advanced. And 2) The insane american health care system allows them to milk the US citizens for money. Secondly ... There's not ceiling on how much a doctor can make in Denmark. You are perfectly in your right to start a private hospital and charge obscene amounts. Don't go around inventing falsehoods.
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+Clay Swinson ... no I don't. But I work from the premise that anarchy is ludicrous.
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+Joseph O'Brien You are perpetuating republican lies. My mother just had cancer - twice. Treatment was fast, (days) and effective. Now... when you say "therapist" ... if you are talking about psychiatry, then maybe yes. ... it has been underfunded for some years. But that was also the main theme of the recent election. It will receive more funding. Compare that to the US record on psychiatry ... At least in Denmark people needing treatment don't go shooting a whole lot of people.
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+danny phipps Without equal access to basic health care you don't have equality of opportunity. Anyone life could be ruined by a random accident and especially for children, not being able to exploit their life to the best of their abilities because of their parents financial situation would not be equality of opportunity. Besides.. .it's just economically stupid for society to not utilize the abilities of all their citizens as best as possible and let some of them rot with bad health or bankruptcy.
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"they police thru physical force just supposed to be only in defense of citizens." So ... what happened at Standing Rock?
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In Denmark cosmetic surgery is not covered by the single payer health care system. You basically also have to pay for birth control your self, but I believe there's a subsidy for some of it if you have a medical condition which causes you to not be able to use the normal methods.
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