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Comments by "PM" (@pm71241) on "How Political Correctness Limits the Free Exchange of Ideas on Campus (THE SAAD TRUTH_129)" video.
Ok... I fully see the problem that the regressive left creates by shielding people from being exposed to different ideas. ... But I think the example of "democrats vs. republicans" would have been a lot more convincing if the GOP had not been hijacked by crazy. ... I mean... I'm all for people being exposed to different political ideologies like convervatism. But you can't really blame educated people from fleeing a party of people which (for example) even after all facts have been laid on the table insists that Obama is a muslim and Planned Parenthood is trafficing "body parts". I mean... There's also not many flat earthers among academia ... that doesn't mean you should be outraged by people not being exposed to nonsense.
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koopinator ... which doesn't change my point: Are the universities an "echochamber" for not having more flat-earthers? When I look a that stage of GOP presidential candidates and see only science deniers (climate change and evolution), I can't see why only one is surprised very few intellectuals identify with them.
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koopinator How many vegans do you think work in a steak-house? Is that a problem of diversity? This has nothing to do with "allowing" them on campus. My point is that the republican party has come to stand for a very unintellectual message. 'm not the only one saying that the Republican Party have become the party of crazy. ... I did not, however say that all republican voters were crazy (don't put words into my mouth). However... even high ranking republican politicians have expressed concern that the party is being hijacked by lunatics. They scare thinking people away from the party with their constant barrage of fact-free talking-points. My point is only that it would be foolish to expect diversity when very few people actually interested in the honest intellectual process a university is are attracted to the party you think you lack representation of.
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"You can think whatever you want about republicans. Just allow them to expose their points in campus." This is not what this entire conversation has been about. It's obviously you who are missing my point here. I said that the republican party scare people away with their nonsense. - AND THE POINT IS that they dis-proportionally scare those away which were otherwise candidates to pursue an academic career. So it's a completely natural and expected effect that there will be very few republicans amongst college staff. Heck ... I ran screaming away from a libertarian party due to their climate science denial. And it's not only about science. If you're honestly interested in fact based discussion why wouldn't you run screaming away from a party whos public face are people who even after the facts have been laided down and the videos revealed as manipulated nonsense still insist that Planned Parenthood is "traficcing body parts" ??? It's NO surprise that you'll find very few people wanting to be a part of such nonsens on a campus. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. That's my point.
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koopinator No ... you don't get it. I've nothing against people having other political ideologies than I have. I do however have something against science denial and total disregard for facts. - and I say that it's not surprise you don't find many of that kind of people at a university and that it's not a bad thing that they are not there. The republican party happens to have become a nesting ground for such lunacy. ... so people who would end up in academia is disproportionally less likely to feel home there. I have nothing against "different reasonale positions" being present at a university (although you should be able to learn about them regardless)... my ONLY POINT is that an under representation of republicans is a bad example because the republican party (currently) contains sufficient levels of crazy that it it self selects against being represented in academia. I agree that it's a problem that you have to tip-toe around the regressives... I my self the other day was verbally attack just because I happened to say I followed the Richard Dawkins twitter feed. But my point is that republicans are a bad example of that effect!
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koopinator "The general notion is that democrats and republicans have conflicting ideologies," ... and my point was that on top of that, the republican party of today includes such levels of crazy that it it self is a cause for the low presence at campuses. - which makes it a bad example.
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koopinator Well... ok... I'm aware that maybe 50% of the US electorate thinks my opinion of what constitutes sufficient levels of crazy to influence the question is wrong ... (that's a scary thought in it self.). So maybe it brought the point home for them. ... I'm not surprised though... and I don't think it's a problem.
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