Comments by "Lelly Parker" (@lellyparker) on "Gove says EU ‘refusing to negotiate’ on Brexit" video.

Boris Johnson is asking the EU to allow the UK to access to the common market without it having to follow common market rules that every other nation accessing the common market has agreed to. He knows the EU are not able to make a special exception for the UK because that would be at the expense of the security of the other 27 nations.
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They are asking the EU for something they know the EU can not give. It is a bluff. The tactic here is to blame the EU for the sever problems the Brexiteers going to inflict on the UK. They want to make the British public hate the EU so much that in the event of a general election the British public will vote for a no-deal Brexit whatever the cost.
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He is trying to blame the EU for no-deal Brexit. They are asking the EU for something they know the EU can not give.
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munsterr777 If you don't have an answer to an argument, pretend it doesn't exist. That seems a common theme among Brexiteers.
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James Smith You voted to leave the EU, not the Customs Union. Your politicians rejected a deal that WOULD have taken us out of the EU. They voted against it. They should live with their rejection of Brexit instead of driving the country over a cliff that was never voted for.
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@Billy2011C "...so what should they do?" - Take May's deal or Revoke Article 50. Those are the only sensible options Britain has. Throwing our toys out of the pram and trashing our economy out of spite is not the answer. We made the international agreements and treaties that put us in this place we should man up and live by our previous decisions.
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@Ford Prefect "the UK will continue to trade with the world" - Yes but it will be at least 10% more expensive to buy and sell. That's the best case scenario. In addition to that we will obviously loose customers at one end (because more expensive products) and suppliers at the other end (because more expensive supplies). We will get f*c*d at both ends.
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@Fhjthnl Lol Iuyo The EU have already negotiated extensively. But Boris is asking them for something he knows they can not agree to. So his fake "negotiations" are disingenuous and he is only doing this to make the EU look bad so the country does not blame him for the chaos that his no-deal will bring.
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@hoggarththewisesmeagol8362 "Why do you need rules for a free trade deal?" - to make trading cheaper and easier. The EU common market has standards of food quality so that every company does not have to pay for food quality checks on everything they buy to meet local legal requirements. The EU common market also has a strong hard external border rules so traders can ship products cheaply without them being delayed or checked at the internal borders. The common market also has rules guaranteeing the workers who produced the goods were given basic human rights including minimum wages and equality for women etc... They also regulate big businesses (like Banks) to make sure they are not ripping off their customers. Because of those rules the EU common market is the most sought after market in the world with the highest quality of goods and the easiest trading conditions for the business. We are crazy to want to leave it because of manipulative propaganda.
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@sarahann530 I assumed that the "common knowledge" was true. I believed the propaganda that told me that the EU was run by "unelected bureaucrats". So I never engaged in EU voting when it mattered. It is only Brexit that has made me investigate the EU and how it REALLY works and it is nothing like what years of British Tabloids have made it out to be. The problem with the EU is not the EU. It is the fact that our power within the EU has been hidden from us by our own governments that don't want us, the voters, to know how much power the EU gives us, the people over them, the governments. Rather than leave the EU, we can use democracy to forced the EU to listen to us, the voters. They can't stop it. It is how democracy works. You threaten the jobs of the MEPs and they suddenly start listening to what you want.
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@Billy2011C The EU don't have a choice. There is nothing to renegotiate regarding the backstop. It is our commitments and agreements that put us in this situation. The leave campaign promised something that is impossible to deliver. It is not an option to deliver something different instead. No-deal was never campaigned for and if it had been remain would have won.
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Andrew H The leave deal was not bad and the government was not "remain". They could have left with a deal and protected the peace in Ireland. Did it deliver everything the Brexiteers want? Not immediately but eventually it would have. Did it deliver everything the Brexiteers asked for? Yes. May's deal absolutely delivered what Brexiteers campaigned for. Leaving the EU - WITH access to the common market.
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@0penminds "everyone has access to EU markets" - They can, in theory, trade through WTO expensive tariffs. Nobody does that. Nobody. America just won the right to triple the amount of Beef it sells to EU countries over the next 7 years. The fact that America had to negotiate to be able to do that should tell you that the common market is not just an open free for all. Japan closed a deal with the EU. Before they were allowed to trade in the common market, Japan had to change a bunch of their trading laws and standards to meet with EU requirements. What about Norway? Norway has full access to the single market but is not in the EU. However it pays a contribution to the EU Budget to gain that access and has to sign up to all the rules of the club - including its common regulations and standards.
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@ThePodcastLab "The UK are asking for 'Free Trade Agreement' that's all. Something the EU has negotiated with Canada, Japan and New Zealand, along with many others." - All those countries have agreed to abide by EU Single market rules as part of their FTAs. Something Boris Johnson is refusing to do. THAT IS THE POINT . Boris could have his FTA if he agrees to the same terms that Canada, Japan and New Zealand and many others have agreed to.
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@markscott7777777 We never gave up sovereignty to the EU. Every trade deal we make with the EU or outside the EU will mean we will have to agree to certain terms. That is what an AGREEMENT is. You can't be free to do whatever you want at the same time as having a trade agreement. Not with the EU, not with ANYONE. Stop drinking the Brexiteer coolaid.
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@1Thedairy We ARE the EU. The EU is not some separate entity. We are as much part of the EU as any one else. We have real power in Europe. Why give up British power in Europe. Then we will have LESS power, not more.
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Simon Janney "it will be cheaper to trade with the rest of the world on WTO cos we wont have a subscription to pay like we do with the EU" - No, it won't. Whoever told you that was very bad at maths.
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@Urban Moving Systems Did you exercise your European democratic power wisely? Did you question MEP candidates if they supported Article 11 or not? Did you let them know you would not vote them into the European Parliament if they voted for it? If not you can't blame the EU for the new copyright law, it is your fault. We have real democratic power in the EU and the problem is we are not using it. We can fix the internet copyright laws if we engage in the EU and talk to our MEPs and tell they we won't vote for them unless they work to change it. Britain would have passed that law even if we were not int the EU. But at least in the EU we have another democratic voice to make the governments listen to us. But we have to engage.
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@timpietersen481 That's not what was written on the voting form. The voting form said leave the EU. No mention of the Customs Union. The EU and the Customs Union are different treaties.
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@Derreck Jones "WE had a democratic vote" - Actually a referendum vote is not part of the democratic machinery of government. It is ONLY ADVICE to the democratically elected government. Democratically Elected Parliament is sovereign, NOT a referendum vote. That is how democracy works in the UK.
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