Comments by "Digital Nomad" (@digitalnomad9985) on "World Science Festival"
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"You realize the god claim is the exact same as the multiverse theory?"
You are confused. The existence of a creator (in the minimal sense of something that creates) is established by the big bang. Cosmic fine tuning establishes that the creator is more like a mind than like anything else. No unnecessary assumptions are entailed in this construction. The multiverse is a speculative attempt to circumvent cosmic fine tuning. It involves an assumption of whole universes which have not been and cannot be observed. It is not a scientific theory. Incidentally, they were arguing over whether the multiverse was infinite. It does not need to be infinite to circumvent cosmic fine tuning, just really big.
As for the simulation hypothesis, you really don't want to go there. You don't believe in God, but you do believe in a entity of supreme intelligence outside of our time and space which designed and implemented our universe, who is able to see everything and can change details at will?
Now about materialism. The defining rule of materialism is that there is nothing outside space/time/matter/physics that can affect it. Already challenged by the big bang, and by the existence of consciousness, (the notion that physics supports a subjective observer as an epiphenomenon is a category error, a scientistic superstition), note that the assumptions of the simulation hypothesis contradict the assumptions of materialism. The simulation hypothesis is by definition the assertion that something outside our physics/time/matter/space/energy DOES exist and CAN effect us. If you assert that the host reality is materialistic, that does you no good. Atheists have been using their materialistic dogma against miracles, for example. If materialism does not apply to OUR universe, then that objection falls flat.
Let's cut to the chase folks. The simulation hypothesis IS THEISM, expressed in the language of data processing rather than that of philosophy or religion.
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I didn't mention quantum physics. I know theism today is commonly equated with the big 3 theistic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, because those are the main theistic religions that have adherents today. But the TERM also applies to "god" in the sense of the old Graeco-Roman or Norse pantheons, a super-human being (even if not infinite) outside the limitations of humanity. A god, at least in that sense, including superhuman intelligence, is a minimal requirement for the simulation hypothesis. The hypothesis, and the term theism, BOTH cover the same range from the Tetragrammaton to "Thor, are you still playing that thing?"
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