Comments by "Digital Nomad" (@digitalnomad9985) on "School Choice Saved My Life | 5 Minute Video" video.
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+The_Blazer
"for some people "school choice" is a codeword for 'I want to be able to
send my children to a jesus camp where they are indoctrinated with
creation science and religious fundamentalism'."
Religious parochial schools outperform public schools academically. Graduates of parochial schools score higher on SATs and do better in college. They will know more about evolution than public school grads. If you were against indoctrination you would not be a supporter of the public school monopoly. One of the problems of the public schools is that they spend more time on indoctrination than real academics. You are not against indoctrination, you just want to choose what gets indoctrinated rather than the parents.
+warbird333
"His Majesty, voucher don't pay the full cost of tuition, so some people
still won't be able to choose a private/charter school assuming that
there is one nearby."
"If vouchers did pay full tuition then the program MIGHT work presume
that private/charter school are available everywhere that people have a
problem with their public school."
If vouchers won't enable people to access private schools, they won't make any difference at all, so why do you oppose them? In fact, if the voucher program is general enough that a school can recruit a large enough student body to achieve some economy of scale, they can educate students for half of what is being spent on our public schools, and do it better. How do I know it can be done? It HAS been done. Before public sector unions and the federal Department of Education, the public schools used to do it. Build it and they will come.
"Public school are available to everyone, no one can be
denied/discriminated against by any religious principle a
private/charter school might impose."
This or that private school might insist on teaching their beliefs, I have never heard of one that tried to insist the students believe them. Also not all such schools are of the same religion, or even religious at all. There is nothing to prevent persons of any philosophical or political persuasion from starting their own school. "Let a thousand flowers bloom" and let the market sort them out.
"Why should the government encourage a move to private/charter school
will never provide for everyone when a more obvious option is right
under our noses."[sic]
Because that option is failing, right under our noses. The specific and general failure of our public schools, despite funding levels many times that of earlier years when they were working is palpable and undeniable.
"Make Public schools better!"
Let me guess. By increasing the funding .... again. By doubling down on the same things that created the mess we are in. The only thing we can hope will make public schools better is competition.
"Private school exist so that so that rich people can segregate their
kids from the poor"
There no doubt are such institutions, they have nothing to do with vouchers, vouchers can't afford them. If they are exclusive, poor folks will be excluded, and they are no threat to your hegemony.
"and indoctrinate them with their parents' beliefs."
You are conflating exclusive prep schools and parochial schools, they are not the same thing. You want to indoctrinate their kids with YOUR beliefs. It is not clear to me that you have an overriding claim.
"they force beliefs one them that school were never meant force on children."
meant by whom?
"If parents want their kids to learn about the Bible then they should
teach it themselves in addition to Sunday school, Bible study and church
mass both on Sunday and any other day their church meets."
The parents should be in control of the curriculum, not you. If you could do a better job, you should have.
"the school should be teaching Math, Science, History, and Literature that teaches you think for yourself."
And that is precisely what private schools are doing that public schools are not, verifiably and undeniably.
"This woman was lucky to get into this school specifically. Plenty of
other private schools that would not have helped her prosper as she did
here."
Lucky? How do you rule out the possibility that she or her guardian chose well? And she could hardly have done worse than the public system was doing to her.
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+Jacob Park
" do you think the rich parents in a private or charter school would
allow the "other" kids to attend the same school their child is
attending?"
Exclusive schools don't enter in to the argument. They exclude themselves from voucher money by excluding students.
"They have all of the money and power, "
At present the teacher's unions and the education bureaucracy have most of the money and power, and the rich have enough money and power to exempt their children from the system. Vouchers give money and power to the rest of the parents.
"Public education focuses on the overall big picture. "
The public education power bloc focuses on maintaining their monopoly. Apart from the minority who can home school and the other minority who can prep school, and the upper middle class who can afford the parochial school, the vast majority of students and families are simply the property of the teacher's unions and whatever they are inclined to give us.
"School vouchers will benefit some poor people, but will ultimately
benefit the rich the most since charter schools use PUBLIC money from
the government."
You mention public schools and charter schools, and a particular type of private school, the exclusive and expensive "prep" type school. You fail to mention religious parochial schools. Most of these operate on
LESS money per student than public schools, and produce better results, as measured by standardized tests. So it can be done. Given competition, it WILL be done. In the current system the inner city poor are excluded from a quality education. Given vouchers, they will have a chance. This empowers the poor, not the rich. The rich already have options.
"Also, kids in public schools will be targeted significantly since government tax money is going to charter schools."
Given choice, they won't have to stay in public schools. They are "targeted" for having an option for an upgrade.
". Yes, every student is given $20,000, however, that is not a lot when you consider that it is from our taxes"
What does that mean? The whole education budget is from our taxes. Vouchers are revenue neutral. The same amount per student which is currently being spent will now go with the student at the discretion of the parent. That $20K is more than many parochial schools charge for tuition, etc. Parochial schools generally do not discriminate in admission with regard to race, religious affiliation, or socioeconomic status.
"And stop making it a left or right thing people. I am tired of that."
The reason why it is a "right or left" thing is because it is about control. The left want the government in control of everything either because they are just power mad or because they think that the people are a bunch of rubes that can't be trusted with freedom, an arrogance that amounts to the same thing. Bureaucrats and politicians are just people, no better than the rest of us. A government paycheck does not convey sainthood. Freedom is served by dispersing power, and distributing responsibilities down to the level closest to the people.
+Krishnakali Majumdar
"NikkyyHD so racism is imaginary?"
Since the current bureaucratic power structure is maintaining and defending a system that locks many inner city racial minorities into failing schools, and oppose any attempt to rectify the system, one is tempted to conclude that at least in some circles, racism is alive and well, thanks for asking.
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