Comments by "1midnightfish" (@1midnightfish) on "Ukraine’s Azov Division: Everything You Wanted to Know" video.

No one is saying they're saints. We're just saying they're not Nazis. Because they aren't.
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Joined 15 May 2024 - bot by any chance?
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@tomk3732 You have just made one of the most stupid statements I have ever read on the internet. Have Azov built extermination camps for millions of people? Or even ever advocated doing that? Do you ever think before you type and click "reply"?
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@basroos_snafu I too would feel differently about a swastika (itself derived from an ancient symbol, it has to be said), however I give the "New Idea" theory the benefit of the doubt because since I started learning Ukrainian I've noticed how speakers of Slavic languages will use Latin script to give certain things prominence, whether in slogans, band names, or acronyms - basically it's used in branding, in the broadest possible sense, which would include a symbol like the one we're discussing. Though I also agree with you that adopting that symbol could also have been a way of trolling russia - I think both these elements are at play on the symbol. I look forward to a more transparent, deeper analysis of this in future - I'm sure it will come.
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@basroos_snafu Героям слава! 💙💛 I keep hoping that no one will relax until sanity and prosperity have spread all over our planet ☺
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@basroos_snafu Interesting theory. I'm still mystified by the letter Z as an orc symbol: when did it start? WHY did it start?? I feel I really should know, but I have no idea
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@basroos_snafu You're right! Thanks for the conversation 🙂
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My understanding is that the latin alphabet "N" encoded in their emblem (which is not a nazi wolf's angel, as it's inverted) stands for "new" in New Idea. Azov has a comprehensive and decently written wikipedia page (in English) that is a good starting point for people wanting to find out more. I'm grateful for this video but disappointed that they didn't talk about Azov's founder Biletsky - who is now a commander after failing as a far-right politician (in Ukraine, far-right politicians fail - that's something we should never tire of pointing out!): he has most certainly made white supremacist statements in the past, and frequent homophobic statements even more recently. Personally, as long as he does his job well and doesn't stir hatred, I don't mind him being there, and he does fulfill a very different role to the one of "founding father" and mouthpiece of Azov; but I believe that propaganda is best tackled head on, by unpicking the true details that it spins into poisonous fables.
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