Comments by "Ding Dong" (@dingdong2103) on "JCS - Criminal Psychology" channel.

  1.  @squarecracker  Still, shooting after his attack was clearly over was clearly not justified. But stuff happens when you get hotheaded... His mistake was not to hold him at gunpoint until the cops arrived. He would have been the victim instead of the felon.
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  2. I don't get why she didn't just stop the conversation with the argument: What do my old relationships have to do with you, mind your own business...
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  3. On the other hand he was physically assaulted by someone who was breaking the law.
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  4.  @milospivak9625  No, but physically attacking someone you don't know might get you killed as it happened here. He might have been a pro boxer and punch him to dead instead of a gun. It was a purely verbal altercation until he attacked.
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  5. If the victim wouldn't have violently pushed him to the ground the whole thing would have ended in a verbal altercation and possibly calling the cops. Both sides were at fault here. Just like in Floyds case. If he didn't violently resist arrest, nobody would be sitting on his neck.
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  6. It's crazy that she continued to answer so long. Maybe she was counting that anything she admits would be dismissed from evidence since she wasn't mirandised.
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  7.  @andythernda  Does not warrant but might GET you murdered. So why push instead of asking politely what the problem was? All he needed to do was to apologize (or even remain quiet) and leave the scene. When he pushed him to the ground, game changed. You do realize that if you slam your head to the asphalt after a push like that, it can be deadly?
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  8.  @Joelberg11  True and goes a long way in proving that it's a very bad idea to go assaulting armed deranged people lol.
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  9. @Owen Farrell If I did I certainly wouldn't like to lol. Sometimes I see nightmares that I'm hiding murdered bodies in barrels in my garage just waiting to be discovered. Having something like that on my concience would be worse than going to jail probably. Wait... I need to check my garage! :P
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  10.  @PINKCOOO  So are you saying that you would violently push someone to the street like that if he was arguing with your wife? I sure as hell wouldn't. I would go and ask what his problem is. You realize that if the shooter would have slammed his head on the asfalt when pushed, he might be dead now? The physical attack was completely uncalled for and dumb.
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  11.  @cesarbernal3959  This would have been true in both cases, yes. Don't act violent and chances are you won't get hurt either.
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  12.  @dejaxyz311  Uhh Floyd violently resisted arrest which was the only reason he got put to the ground. He was already in the patrol car going by his merry way until he went crazy. Had he sat there he would now be alive and we'd avoid all the BS. Doing drugs and attacking the police is not just "a mistake". It has consequences.
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  13.  @dejaxyz311  "physical" matters. Words are words, when you push someone to the ground violently, it can potentially result to a serious injury or death. There are countless cases where people died from hitting their head to sharp objects (or hit by a passing car) after being pushed like that. Moreover that attack triggered the gun man to pull, which would most likely not have happened if only words were exchanged.
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  14.  @chnproductions3994  She wasn't under an official investigation so nothing stopped her...
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  15.  @blutwurst4360  Parking at a handicap spot is annoying and disrespectful for the community rules. Commenting on it is understandable and may lead to a verbal confrontation if/when the parking party is not too sophisticated. The whole situation changed the second he put his hands on the guy. That was totally unnecessary and escalated the situation. All he needed to do was to sit in his car and drive away ignoring the complainer. They would happily live their lives today.
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  16.  @pissapocalypse  Well as you saw, it did. I'd say it's an insane jump to start pushing arguing strangers to the ground. You never know if they're sane or not.
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  17.  @pissapocalypse  And that was never my argument. What I said was had he not pushed him, he would most likely be now alive.
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  18.  @jajajajajaja867  Yep me too. I have to process so much new information daily for work that past things just wipe out.
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  19.  @whatdoiput807  Unrelated to you and clear to many others. How does that feel?
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  20.  @baddypleash4258  Because he might get physically attacked at the parking lot perhaps? He was carrying that gun for decades and nothing happened as long as nobody started pushing him to the ground. Yes, it was totally wrong that he shot but then again it wouldn't have happened without the push. Both were at fault.
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  21.  @Thebigbubba  The Floyd case has a striking similarity in the sense that both would now be alive if they acted civil. Start violence, bad things tend to happen.
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  22.  @PINKCOOO  I would not start pushing or striking him, I would calmly ask what his problem is. Only if he poses a physical threat, I would even touch him. Complaining about a parking spot is not a physical threat.
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  23.  @PINKCOOO  He had no justification to push the man. He started the violence and made this poorly judged man decide that he had to defend his face by shooting him. It would neve have happened unless he pushed him.
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  24.  @PINKCOOO  Well obviously yelling didn't get anyone killed but physically attacking did.
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  25.  @Awaredo  My IQ is higher than yours with a fair bit of certainty, thank you.
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  26.  @Thebigbubba  What was his justification for shoving the man? Nothing. The man was yelling and being aggravated by the loud mouthed wife in the car apparently (judging from how the discussion heated very quickly). He could have gone there and talked to the man politely and the situation would have dissolved. But no, he chose to act like a macho hothead and attacked the guy. And paid the ultimate price for his bad choice.
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  27.  @Thebigbubba  If you read my replies I have repeatedly said I don't justify the shooting in any way. I'm just saying that the victim caused the situation to escalate to the point it did by physically attacking the shooter, for no reason expect than showing off what a big man he was. If he would have acted in a civilized manner, only thing that would have been shot would be a couple of f-bombs and they drive away.
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  28.  @cobramcjingleballs959  A citizen is well within his rights to comment when someone is violating either the law or moral standards. He did not physically assault anyone until being assaulted upon.
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  29.  @yomamasthemailman3146  Trying to insult me results only in your personal shame.
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  30.  @stripedhyenuh  Which part of it exactly? Or did you just not understand what you read?
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  31.  @dejaxyz311  At which point did I say I was about to shoot anyone numb nuts?
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  32.  @yomamasthemailman3146  Learn to read please. I never claimed to do anything. I said that if you physically attack an unknown person, that person may respond with deadly force as happened in this case. You never know who you push, it might be a veeeery bad idea. Like the guy who got caught stealing Chuck Liddels truck lol.
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  33.  @tenthirtyone1  For the n:th time I'm not defending him I'm accusing the hothead for the initial physical attack that got him killed. Act civil, live. Simple.
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  34.  @Olu34  He caused a physical confrontation with a man who had that far only yelled some words. He had no need to push him, he could have gone between the argument and told him to piss off and leave. But no, he chose violence and lost.
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  35.  @Olu34  I'm pretty sure the wife was extremely rude to the man, which is why the verbal argument escalated in a few seconds. Had she said "oh sorry, we didn't realize" the whole argument would be over and the husband had no excuse to start pushing armed gunmen to the ground. They learned the thug life lesson the hard way.
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  36.  @Olu34  Reading comprehension please. I said "judging from the speed of which the verbal argument heated up". If the wife would have given a civil answer, there would be no need for a heated argument. But I guess this concept is too hard to grasp for some. It's easier to close your eyes from facts and throw insults and accusations.
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  37.  @misterman9523  Heh, while it may have used to be like that as we saw the system doesn't exactly support it anymore or the society morally condone it :)
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  38.  @sherylF5610  No, this whole thing started with them parking to a handicap spot. They and they only were the cause for the whole altercation. And in addition to parking bad, the husband got violent and dangerously pushed a man who was only commenting on them violating the rights of disabled people.
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  39.  @kristian9946  LOL now that was a seriously mental thing to say. If you can't see how pushing a man to the ground could get you in trouble, how can you call me stupid?
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  40. This is exactly why people shouldn't attack strangers. You never know if it's a low self esteem maniac who just waits for an excuse to shoot or a cop with a bad day and a heavy knee.
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  41. There were a car full of hothead young men who threaten to kill you. So are you saying you wouldn't be concerned at that point?
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  42.  @ezsauce7481  Young people are the most unpredictable ones, especially when in groups. From his description they were in an extremely agitated state, potentially on drugs etc. I would have felt that situation threatening. But I'm not defending his actions in any way, starting to shoot is a pretty drastic measure and he clearly was not right in the head to begin with.
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  43.  @QueenKunta  Heh, you know as well as I do how many of these teens act and they may well be heavily armed bangers.
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  44.  @givenchie462  Not justifying what he did but I can certainly understand if he felt threatened.
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  45.  @QueenKunta  Oh, and having to resort to personal attacks is a fine way of admitting that you already lost the discussion.
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  46.  @QueenKunta  It's too late to explain yourself out of it.
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  47.  @ezsauce7481  It seems I have to repeat I don't justify the shooting in any way. BUT... it is totally reasonable to assume that a white man would be afraid of a car full of black teenagers who are in a state of rage, yell threats and who are possibly on drugs and armed. He had no way of knowing.
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  48.  @ezsauce7481  It's obvious that he was trigger happy and had no justification for the shooting. But I can also understand if he was afraid with all the drug and gang violence going on there.
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  49.  @ezsauce7481  Wrong. I'm not giving him anything. I'm just reflecting on what I would have felt in his situation.
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  50.  @ezsauce7481  I'm not scared of anyones skin color but I am scared of a car full of teenagers jumping around in rage throwing threats, in an area which probably is full of gang bangers and drug trafficking. Not to mention guns.
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  51.  @ezsauce7481  Wow, classy.
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  52.  @ezsauce7481  I repeatedly said that he shouldn't have shot but you don't seem to understand written letter.
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  53. DNA wasn't a thing back then yet...
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  54. @Agent Bubble Effectively both lives ended that afternoon.
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  55.  @gamebuster800  It was a truck full of hotheaded young punks who could have been gang bangers for all he knew. And he did ask to turn the music down, to which the one in the back seat allegedly responded with death threats.
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  56.  @gamebuster800  He wasn't an innocent father, he made a violent attack over a verbal argument and got tagged for it. It was pure bad luck that the shot was leathal.
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  57.  @gamebuster800  Again, I'm not defending his actions, I'm blaming the victim for causing the situation that lead to his death. The violence was completely unnecessary in that situation.
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  58.  @SlyyCooperr  Adrenalin is strong...
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  59.  @marufio  How many people have you seen questioned by the police? :) But it's obvious she's lying and in high distress from her exaggerated expressions.
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