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Comments by "Scott Charney" (@scottcharney1091) on "How Alabama's IVF ruling is dividing devout Christians | BBC News" video.
You can't have it both ways. Abortion usually involves embryos, and if they're children, then so are the vast numbers of embryos that get destroyed in IVF. It's very revealing- if one opposes abortion but not IVF, do they really want to "save the babies," or do they just want to punish people for having sex?
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@apap4950 That seems like special pleading. IVF inherently leads to a huge number of destroyed embryos. If one thinks that embryos are children, then how is it justifiable?
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@apap4950 Because the pregnant woman who gets killed didn't give consent. Those laws were written with violent third-parties in mind. Seeing the two procedures as morally different makes no sense. If embryos are the same thing as babies, then neither IVF nor abortion are permissible.
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@apap4950 Euthanasia laws often hinge on consent. A pregnant woman is the biological host to the embryo or fetus, with all that entails. The decision is hers, first and foremost.
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@apap4950 Embryos aren't "someone," as they lack personhood, and there is no "hit man" involved. The double homicide laws were written with violent third-parties in mind, taking away a woman's pregnancy without her consent. There's no harm in not being born, but there is harm in ending someone's wanted pregnancy without the pregnant woman's consent.
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@apap4950 Indeed, and embryos have no rights. It's a double homicide because the pregnant woman's consent has been violated.
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That's 'Bama for you.
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@apap4950 How so?
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@apap4950 Some of these theocrats are claiming that IUDs are abortifacients, when in fact IUDs and implants collapse the abortion rate.
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@apap4950 Jurisprudence, foreign policy, etc.
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