Comments by "Scott Charney" (@scottcharney1091) on "AJ+" channel.

  1.  @BBBB-nd8pl  Embryos aren't babies.
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  2. What's the harm in never being born?
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  3. Yes, as a matter of fact. Ask the women involved; I'm not going to do your research for you.
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  4.  @bruh83483  There is no murder.
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  5.  @paull2166  Embryos aren't babies.
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  6. Very true, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  7.  @TheGuiltsOfUs  Embryos aren't babies.
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  8. Embryos and fetuses aren't babies. They lack personhood, i.e. all the characteristics that are taken away from someone when someone is killed. They are in a quasi-parasitic relationship with the host organism. There's no harm in not being born.
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  9. Indeed, there's no harm in not being born. That applies to everyone.
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  10. They think that sex is icky.
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  11. Embryos and fetuses are not babies.
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  12.  @Kudz_LastmanStanding  Oh, I know what you're trying to say. But no, abortion is not murder. Embryos & fetuses don't have personhood, the characteristics that make killing wrong. That comes later.
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  13.  @christaime9812  No, that's not what personhood is. It refers to the characteristics that make killing wrong: sentience, the will to live, biological autonomy, and all of the other things that are taken away when a person is killed. In a rudimentary but very real way, babies have that. Embryos & fetuses don't and can't. Also, we don't all agree with your religious fairy tales.
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  14.  @guardtheham1233  It's not a question of life. It's a question of personhood, the characteristics that make killing wrong: sentience, the will to live, biological autonomy, and everything else that's taken away when a person is killed. In a rudimentary but real way, babies have that. Embryos & fetuses do not, and cannot. There's no harm in not being born.
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  15.  @Kudz_LastmanStanding  I agree, but that has nothing to do with abortion. Also, why the asterisks?
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  16. There is no baby (it's an embryo or a fetus), and there is no lord.
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  17. The word is "biased," not "bias." Anyway, you're right, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  18.  @guardtheham1233  They don't have personhood yet. That comes later, referring to the characteristics that make killing wrong.
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  19.  @guardtheham1233  That applies to persons.
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  20.  @guardtheham1233  Not this again. Yes, you can, because said woman isn't giving consent to have the pregnancy terminated. That's why fetal homicide laws were codified, with violent third parties in mind, assaulting women.
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  21.  @zsoltbakos685  No, they are incapable of doing anything at all to anyone, as they have no will. You don't know what you're talking about. Human life is not the issue; personhood is.
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  22. That, and the desire to punish people for having sex.
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  23.  diszy  Embryos aren't babies.
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  24. True, but this video is in part disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc.
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  25. Why apologize, and which human beings?
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  26.  @irinakarlstein  Not so. They mean very different things. Babies have been born. What we have here is a philosophical question about what makes killing wrong, i.e. personhood.
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  27. True, but this video is, in part. disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  28.  @Kudz_LastmanStanding  A human that has been born; I don't know when the "baby" stage ends.
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  29.  @Kudz_LastmanStanding  First of all, the womb is not the stomach! Second, of course human embryos are human. So what?
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  30.  @christaime9812  As it happens, life support is disconnected very frequently, and there are other manifestations of euthanasia, so "we" do. Also, atheism is no fairy tale; I'm not the one espousing a bunch of made-up old stories. Do you have the same religion as your parents? Most people do, and somehow that's always the correct religion. Fascinating.
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  31. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  32. Something else- Asia stretches from the Sinai Peninsula (part of Egypt!) to, say, the Philippines. "Asian" can mean a huge number of different things. What a strange situation.
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  33. If you believe a brief aside made by George Orwell in an essay, this has been true since the 1930s.
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  34.  Igor Horváth  You missed the point.
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  35.  Igor Horváth  There's no harm in being aborted. It's very different than the killing of someone with personhood.
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  36. Very true! However, this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  37. Ok, but she's smug and, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc.
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  38.  @zsoltbakos685  No, embryos & fetuses haven't the capacity to be innocent or guilty. There's no harm in not being born.
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  39.  @zsoltbakos685  I didn't say that it wasn't human, nor that it wasn't technically alive. I don't have inconsistent standards, and I think that others should agree because it seems perfectly sensible to me.
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  40.  @TheGuiltsOfUs  No such thing.
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  41. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  42.  @jean6453  Exactly. We need fewer perpetrators and fewer victims.
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  43. It's disappointing. It is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  44.  @christopherbrooks6355  Not this again. For one thing, that "model minority" canard is damaging to all involved. For another, by "high government intervention" you're referring to police and prisons, right?
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  45.  @breadogi7118  You don't know anything about the history of all this, do you?
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  46. Thus, we need fewer of the perpetrators and fewer of the victims.
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  47. Very true, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  48. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  49. Besides that, I don't want to see people, anywhere in the world, be born only to suffer. I think of my nephews, think of the crises that will define their lives, and I get sad. I wish that I had never been born (for a lot of reasons), and in fact I wish that for everyone. "People Ain't No Good" - Nick Cave
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  50. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  51. True, but this video is in part disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc.
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  52. Does "unbiased expert" mean "someone I am already predisposed to agree with?"
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  53. I hope that you're being sarcastic.
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  54. @DiscipleOfTheKing True, and irrelevant. "Sex" is Latin for "six."
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  55. @DiscipleOfTheKing Human being? Of course. It's a question of personhood, i.e. the characteristics that make killing wrong: sentience, a will to live, preferences, hopes & dreams, biological autonomy, etc. In a rudimentary but genuine way, babies have personhood. Embryos don't, and can't. That comes later.
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  56. @DiscipleOfTheKing Yes, personhood is a philosophical stance. It's a philosophical argument. Yes, one can make those arguments, and there's been a lot of interesting discussion around it, usually centering on grievous defects. In fact, that sort of thing has not been uncommon throughout human history, including in (for example) some very Christian environments. As for when personhood arises, I'm not entirely sure, but I can tell you that it's long after nearly all (and perhaps entirely all) abortions occur.
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  57. @DiscipleOfTheKing No, it's not a case of taking another person's life, as embryos and fetuses don't have personhood. Of course we were all fetuses. That's beside the point. There's no harm in not being born.
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  58. @DiscipleOfTheKing Not at all. Human embryos and human fetuses are indeed human. When people talk about "the day before they're due" and that sort of thing, they're throwing out a red herring, deliberately or otherwise. This interview, with a doctor who has thorough knowledge of the situation, is illuminating: https://www.vox.com/2019/3/11/18246702/trump-abortion-ralph-northam-virginia-green-bay
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  59. Actually, the majority of women who have abortions identify with a religion. I am an atheist, but I wanted to point out your error.
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  60. The reason doesn't matter. Abortion is a morally neutral act.
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  61. Babies?
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  62. It's a big part of the reason why abortion rights are so important.
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  63.  @shesworthy7217  You're Also, your comment makes no sense.
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  64.  @christianuploads8292  There's no baby, and if somehow your ridiculous fantasy came to pass, you would have a lot of married women having abortions (many do already).
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  65.  @christianuploads8292  Usually embryos, sometimes fetuses.
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  66. *Embryo (sometimes fetus)
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  67.  @crash-ry3eq  Precisely. Embryos and fetuses aren't babies; they don't have personhood yet, so the choice defaults to the host organism.
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  68.  Igor Horváth  Sure; see my other reply.
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  69.  Igor Horváth  You're already replying to it.
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  70. Hospitals don't want to deal with protestors (protesters?).
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  71. Encouraged? Really?
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  72. I was disappointed. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  73. It's disappointing. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  74. This is, in part, disingenuous. For one thing, it doesn't mention that Total Fertility Rates are declining all over the world, very much so in much of Latin America and Asia. For another, it doesn't mention the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty and suffering. Would it be a bad thing if Haiti's population was shrinking? In fact, even people in better circumstances are better off not being born, because that means that they won't have to suffer through the climate crises. I'm also inclined to agree with David Benatar that the best possible outcome is to never be born.
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  75. Very true, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  76. I don't know anything about that one, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  77.  @paulomilan515  Possibly. It could be just an oversight, but it's a big one.
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  78. "We came here because you went there" is a slogan that appeared in the UK when Brits started complaining about migrants.
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  79. True, but this video is in part disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc.
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  80. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  81. Unfortunately, no. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  82. True, but this video is in part disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc.
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  83.  @rustomkanishka  No, of course not, and why would you ask?
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  84. ?
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  85. People said that about my ancestors, and probably about yours as well.
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  86.  @craigturner3237  "Race" is a social construct, but in any case, understand the defining role played by First World exploitation of the Third World.
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  87. Naturally, I see on the right side of the screen a link to a Thomas Sowell video that probably promotes this myth. It has over 700k views in two years. I'm so tired of people venerating that crackpot.
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  88.  @mangomochi486  Couldn't *have
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  89. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  90. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  91. On the contrary, this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  92. It's funded by a monarchy. It should be villainized. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  93. It is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  94. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  95. ?
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  96. True (besides your Covid comments), but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  97.  @1Humanoid  To the extent that the modelling was wrong, it's because of (as this paper indicates) the great difficulties in doing so. There was no "agenda." Please get off of the conspiracy theories. This same paper indicates that masking is quite helpful. There's nothing in there about Switzerland, but it looks like the Swiss definitely did some locking down of their own, along with masking requirements.
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  98. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  99. True, although there's also the thought of sparing one's hypothetical children from a life of suffering.
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  100.  @guardtheham1233  Human embryos & human fetuses aren't persons yet.
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  101.  @guardtheham1233  Embryos & fetuses are stages in development. They don't have the characteristics of personhood.
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  102.  Igor Horváth  Yes, all three do.
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  103.  Igor Horváth  A newborn is no longer in a quasi-parasitic (emphasis on "quasi") state. It no longer is (by default) sucking on the nutrients of a possibly unwilling host. Even if the mother does not wish to care for it, someone else can be found to do so. Also, newborns do have rudimentary sentience. As for your dog, it's not human, but it is a sentient creature, which is why we usually say that killing them is usually wrong (outside of euthanasia, defense, etc.).
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  104.  Igor Horváth  I didn't write anything about paying for anybody's life support. If you're referring to comatose people, that sort of thing is decided on a case-by-case basis. Plugs are pulled very often. The point about biological dependence is that it's entirely up to the host organism to decide if that situation should continue. They're the one supplying all of the nutrients. I don't know enough about animals to decide that, but I can say that animal rights do stem from sentience, as I indicated earlier. I don't know exactly when sentience arises, but the point is that it's long after nearly all abortions take place.
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  105.  Igor Horváth  If I understand your first sentence, and I'm not sure that I do: There's no harm in not being born. Embryos don't have (and cannot possibly have) a desire to go on living, thoughts of any kind, and all the other things that make up personhood, that make us think that killing is wrong. As for sentience: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient
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  106.  Igor Horváth  No, I did answer your question. You were asserting (if I understood you correctly) that women ought to be obligated to the embryo because they caused said embryo to exist, and I am pointing out that it doesn't matter. Embryos don't have personhood, unlike you and I. Newborns have rudimentary behavior of personhood, and they're no longer inside a host organism. Somebody can be found to take care of them. I was afraid that you were going to reference The Silent Scream. That video was almost immediately found to be fraudulent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silent_Scream#Medical_community Personhood refers to the characteristics that make killing wrong, all that is taken away when somebody is killed: The will to live, biological autonomy, sentience, etc. It's why you wouldn't react the same way to a fire that destroyed countless frozen embryos as you would to a disaster that killed a much smaller number of people. Some animals are indeed sentient, and while the charges aren't murder or manslaughter, note that animal cruelty is definitely criminal.
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  107.  Igor Horváth  The point is that the scientists and doctors cited in the article noticed immediately that the filmmakers were not honest. The film doesn't depict what the filmmakers claim, and gives a false impression to the uneducated viewer. Also, indeed, the capacity to feel pain is somewhat beside the point.
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  108.  Igor Horváth  The organs/nerve cells needed for consciousness don't appear until the 24th-28th week, and even then, that doesn't mean that they're in operation. I don't have to prove to you that I have personhood- I'm not sure what kind of fallacy that is, but it's one of them. No, I don't think that personhood appears with a snap of a finger during birth. It's obviously more nuanced than that. When I refer to dependency, I'm referring to the dependency of a being in a quasi-parasitic biological state. Of course the examples you give are all persons. As for various conditions that remove/deny/prevent personhood, one can examine those on a case-by-case basis. Lots of famous medical ethics cases are about just that. The argument about "put[ting] me through your actions into your body and then destroy[ing] me because you don't want me there" only makes sense if there's any harm in said destruction. There isn't.
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  109.  Igor Horváth  That's more than too much to wade through. I'll put it like this: Nobody minds not being born. (There's also a good case to be made that it's the ideal outcome.) There's nothing approaching a will to live, sentience, preferences, desires, and all the other things taken away when a person is killed. That's why we think that killing is usually wrong. Babies have rudimentary forms of this sort of thing, but, more importantly (and crucially), they're not in a quasi-parasitic relationship with a host organism that may not be willing to serve as a carrier. After delivery, somebody can be found to take care of a child; there's no more inextricable tie to the pregnant woman. Very, very few of those characteristics (if any) apply to embryos or fetuses. There are dishonest and/or naive attempts to do so (like The Silent Scream, among other things), and unfortunately those catch on with certain audiences. Now, as for all the "what abouts," those are case-by-case. Pardon the passive voice: Plugs are pulled all the time, extraordinary lifesaving measures are forgone, and decisions are made about the appropriate use of deadly force. People make those decisions every day; in fact, it could be argued that all of us do that in passive ways. I think that I was referring to this article earlier; I'm not sure: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-does-consciousness-arise/
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  110.  Igor Horváth  How would you care? That's different from being killed while asleep. You already have personhood. It doesn't go away.
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  111.  Igor Horváth  Yes, newborns do, in a rudimentary (but genuine) way. The only exceptions would be those with the worst of the worst birth defects, of the agonizing, surely fatal variety. As for the mentally disabled, most do, in fact the vast majority probably do. It depends. I'm not an expert on that sort of thing.
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  112.  Igor Horváth  Personhood includes things like sentience, a will to live, preferences/desires/etc., and biological autonomy. By that last one, I mean that embryos and fetuses are in a quasi-parasitic relationship with a perhaps unwilling host, whereas someone can be found to take care of a newborn. As for links, I can send you quotes from ethicists and the like saying similar things.
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  113.  Igor Horváth  Newborns have rudimentary personhood, and regarding your second question, what does that have to do with anything?
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  114.  Igor Horváth  Before birth, the quasi-parasitic state is the situation. As for the other aspects of personhood, I don't know exactly when they're present, but most abortions take place a long time before there's any doubt. There's no guilt involved. Nobody asks to be conceived, and nobody minds not being born.
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  115. Indeed, it's true for everyone. People in richer countries do off-the-charts damage to the environment, while people in poorer countries are the victims. We need fewer of both. There are other issues at play, as well.
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  116. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  117. Very true, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  118. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  119. Some of the biggest polluters having low total-fertility-rates is a great thing.
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  120. Something else- Asia stretches from the Sinai Peninsula (part of Egypt!) to, say, the Philippines. "Asian" can mean a huge number of different things.
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  121.  @weheartclinicdefenders3686  There has to be a way to defeat those creeps.
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  122. All true, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  123. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  124. Not really. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  125. Non-Asian here; my parents definitely stressed education, and that was stressful enough! I can't imagine being in a figurative pressure cooker. Actually, I can imagine it, and it's terrifying.
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  126. I'm disappointed. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  127. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  128. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  129. Not so.
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  130.  @zsoltbakos685  Human beings and persons are different. It informs (and is based upon) what makes killing wrong.
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  131.  @zsoltbakos685  If I understand you correctly, you might not realize that you and I obviously have the characteristics of personhood.
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  132. Not really. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  133. Very true, but this video is, in part. disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  134. That's actually true in many ways (but not all).
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  135. Not really. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  136. Humor me. Say it.
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  137. Unfortunately, this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  138. Far from it. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  139. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  140. I was disappointed. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  141. And?
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  142. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  143. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  144.  @Lovely_Linda_777  This is written in a way that makes you seem absolutely unhinged, considering both the wacky punctuation and the conspiracy theories.
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  145.  @abelabel3664  We need fewer perpetrators and fewer victims.
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  146. Yes, which is why we need fewer people at both ends of the spectrum.
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  147. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  148. It was disappointing. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  149. It's disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  150. So what?
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  151. True. Also, this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  152. It is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  153. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  154. True, but please stop shouting.
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  155. True, but this video is in part disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc.
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  156. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  157. That's probably true, but that still doesn't support this "replacement" nonsense.
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  158. Indeed.
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  159. True, although eco-fascists are rightists, obviously.
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  160. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  161. Not so. Look at the parties and people shown.
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  162.  @EugeneVerster  How so? It's the far right who are worried about this "replacement" stuff.
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  163.  @EugeneVerster  They're talking about it all the time.
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  164. It's a disappointment. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  165. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  166. True, but this video is, in part. disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  167. No, abortion is not murder, but Gosnell's actions definitely were. I noticed the image as well, and realized it must be a pretty serious error!
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  168. It's disappointing. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  169. Not really. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  170.  @charlesyoung2197  CPCs don't help. They lie, trick, and try to run out the clock, as you can see here.
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  171.  @guardtheham1233  In large part due to the shaming and stigmatizing that the God Squad dishes out. Also, let's see- women abort formerly wanted pregnancies due to discovery of birth defects, changes (often severe) in their financial situation, abuse, and much more. Women have to scramble to get appointments, funding, time off work, childcare, care of other dependents, a place to stay, etc. They often need to make all of this happen without abusive domestic partners/family members finding out. All of this was bad even before the Dobbs decision, thanks to (frankly unconstitutional) TRAP laws, and it just got worse.
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  172.  @guardtheham1233  Life, yes. Persons, no.
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  173. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  174. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  175. Nearly every word in your comment is wrong. I'm impressed.
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  176. True, but that's only peripherally related to the video.
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  177. Everyone does.
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  178. It's no lie. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  179. I would like that also. However, this video is, in part. disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  180. Not so.
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  181. I wouldn't say that. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  182. What do you mean by that?
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  183.  @Koreanbaby4life  What the hell are you talking about?
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  184.  @wargriffin5  I'm not worrying about it at all. Quite the opposite!
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  185. *fewer
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  186.  @AvangionQ  Precisely!
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  187. Please learn about paragraphs. Also, this video is partially disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc.
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  188.  @andrewjones575  That's true so far. This sort of thing might well save the world. Migration is a boon for both sides, and remittances in particular lead to more girls going to school, which lowers Total Fertility Rates like nothing else.
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  189.  @andrewjones575  That's a nativist canard. It's the same ignorance that probably fueled hate against some of your ancestors.
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  190. Perhaps, but note that he couldn't foresee industrialization, advances in food production, etc.
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  191. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  192.  @ankundamwebembezi6358  There it is. It's not about the so-called "babies," it's about sex. You want to punish people for having it. Having an abortion is one way to take responsibility. Personally, I am vasectomized, so that's one way that men can take responsibility.
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  193. I wouldn't say that. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  194. Unfortunately, no. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  195. You're partly right, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  196. True, but this video is in part disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc.
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  197. *you're
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  198. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  199.  @lol-ih1tl  Declining rates are not a problem. Quite the opposite, anywhere in the world.
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  200.  @nightnyungwe5945  I'm well aware of all of that. You make some errors; the Victorian era was a time of slow-but-steady decline in total fertility rates (births per woman). In fact, that's one of the things that led to the eugenic concerns we see in this video. Total fertility rates declined, and then declined at a faster rate, due to increasing education of girls, among other reasons. Thankfully, the West isn't usually imposing these solutions anymore. Said solutions are being made available, and they're extraordinarily helpful. See the decline in Bangladesh's total fertility rate, along with India's and those of many other countries. Africa's population is not an asset if they can't be adequately fed (among other things). Of course the problem is due to political factors, but that's unfortunately not going to change without massive tumult that would go on for a long time and be very destructive in its own right. That, and now the environmental factors are worse than ever before. China's population figures were the object of scorn and derision when things looked hopeless. Note that the One-Child Policy only sped up the process that was already underway (family planning campaigns with far fewer dreadful elements were already in operation), it really served to empower the regime even more. China's demographics are not necessarily a source of strength today. Keep in mind that I'm very pleased with the low (and often sub-replacement) total fertility rates in wealthy (and sometimes not-very-wealthy) countries. That needs to spread and continue. It's better for everyone who remains, and indeed it's better for all of the hypothetical people never even conceived/born.
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  201.  @chriswatson1698  They also kill rats, however.
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  202. It's disappointing. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  203.  @waldzrf9875  I watched the whole thing. Thankfully, these days a lot of talk centers on how the best thing that people in rich countries can do to lower their carbon footprint is to have one fewer child. That sort of thing is actually visible in some of the headlines that fly past, but she doesn't talk about it. I'm not saying anything about who "should be able" to have children. We need fewer perpetrators of environmental devastation (among other things), and also fewer victims. And yes, I am sympathetic to anti-natalism, which I don't think is that strange.
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  204. Not so. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  205. True, but this video is in part disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc.
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  206. You've named both left-wing and right-wing elements there.
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  207. Not really. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  208. On the contrary, this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  209. I'm not sure what you're referring to.
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  210. All true, but the world needs fewer people born into poverty and suffering as well.
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  211. On the contrary, this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  212. Very true (but please learn to use paragraphs). There's also the motive to prevent people from being born into suffering.
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  213. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  214.  @1971gift  I'm not arguing with any of that.
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  215. Not really. It is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  216. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  217. Nobody's going to lessen their consumption voluntarily. I wish they would, but it won't happen.
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  218. Very true, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  219.  @VeeKayGreenerGrass  No, the pandemic restrictions prevented an enormous number of deaths, and the vast economic damage that would have resulted. Your first sentence is correct, however.
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  220.  @VeeKayGreenerGrass  Lockdowns, while difficult to implement correctly and rather ham-fisted, are still helpful in reducing spread. They're highly imperfect, but still important. If fewer people are breathing on one another, transmission is lessened.
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  221.  @Thatgurlkassixoxo  To what are you referring?
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  222. Exactly. They left that out of the video!
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  223. Si, pero hay problemas grandes, cosas importantes no estan aqui. (Disculpe, mi Espanol es triste.)
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  224. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  225. Watch it again.
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  226. Very true, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  227. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  228. You ought to watch it again.
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  229. True, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  230. Unfortunately, this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  231. That's not exactly true; Latin America's total fertility rates have dropped like a brick over the past couple of decades.
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  232. Come to think of it, as a White man, being labeled as an oppressor presents some choices. One can go out of one's way to not live up to that, although that does come with the risk of turning into a self-loathing PC SJW caricature (the people using "LatinX," for example). One can get defensive about it, which is awful, of course. Worst of all, one can own it. Sadly, that might be on the rise.
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  233. Here we go again... The Nazis burnt Sanger's books. She and MLK lauded one another. Rosa Parks was on PP's board in the 1970s. Sanger worked with W.E.B. DuBois, and she didn't tolerate bigotry on her staff. She spoke to the Women's Auxiliary of the KKK because they asked her to, since their menfolk didn't want them to know about contraception. She later said that it was the weirdest experience of her life. The "word to go out" quote is out of context; that phrase meant that she didn't want people to get the wrong idea, which was easy to do considering the racial environment at the time. Besides that, her own writings show a lot of sympathy with the women of the Far East. Even Edwin Black, author of "War Against the Weak," a history of American eugenics, one of Sanger's strongest critics, makes it clear that she was no racist. She was many things, many of them bad, but not a racist. She also never was involved with any abortion; in fact, one of her goals with contraception was to prevent the dangerous illegal abortions being practiced at the time. Black women today have high abortion rates because they have high rates of unplanned pregnancy. They get abortions of their own free will; nobody is tricking them into it. Besides that, embryos aren't babies anyway, but that's a different topic. I'm tired of the lies.
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  234. Very true, but this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  235. This video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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  236. Please, no conspiracy theories.
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  237. On the contrary, this video is, in part, disingenuous. There's some important stuff that they leave out: the desire to prevent people from being born into poverty, the desire to prevent people from being born into suffering of any type, the decline in total fertility rates we're seeing in most of the world, etc. I give thanks every day for my vasectomy.
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