Comments by "Scott Charney" (@scottcharney1091) on "Asia Brown Escorting Women To Last Abortion Clinic In Mississippi" video.

No it is not. Murder is a crime. It refers to killing a person, and embryos are not persons.
12
Embryos aren't children. It's a matter of personhood, and that comes later.
4
And?
3
@macscott2458 Embryos aren't children yet.
2
@macscott2458 Yes; if you're going to argue "what about a minute before that, or a minute before that," the point is that even if I can't give you an exact moment, personhood arrives long after nearly all (or entirely all) abortions occur.
2
@daguroswaldson257 I'm doing no such thing, inasmuch as I am an atheist.
2
@Rebel-cd6gc Not so. It's her decision totally. If the births happen, he's still on the hook. Among other reasons, abortion can be very difficult to come by, as explained (partially) in this video.
2
@Suzi Logsdon Stop shouting. The woman is the host organism. Her body bears the consequences of pregnancy and childbirth. The decision is hers. Abortion is not murder.
2
@Ff Tg There were no kids yet. Also, it's her body that bears the effects of pregnancy and childbirth. It's up to her, and abortion is not murder.
2
@letsgobrandon2922 Embryos aren't babies.
2
@macscott2458 Indeed, it's a question of personhood, not life.
1
@macscott2458 Personhood refers to the characteristics that make killing wrong: sentience, the will to live, biological autonomy, hopes & dreams, and all of the other things that are taken away when a person is killed. In a rudimentary but genuine way, babies have that. Embryos don't, and cannot. There's no harm in not being born.
1
@justapotato2434 No. Embryos don't have any of the traits of personhood.
1
@inhocsignovinceinthissigno1526 Souls don't exist.
1
@jessicasosa7313 This is a point refuted a thousand times. It was not "scooting away from the vacuum." Embryos aren't children. They have neither innocence nor guilt.
1
@inhocsignovinceinthissigno1526 That's an issue of consent. Fetal homicide laws exist to counter violent third-parties.
1
@inhocsignovinceinthissigno1526 Human, yes. Person, no. That comes later.
1
@jessicasosa7313 Fetuses lack the capacity for that: https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/politics/a27131471/unplanned-abortion-movie-documentary-explained/ https://drjengunter.com/2019/05/28/a-fetus-does-not-try-to-move-away-during-an-abortion/
1
@inhocsignovinceinthissigno1526 For the millionth time: Human, of course. Person, no. That comes later.
1
@jessicasosa7313 The Silent Scream was debunked the same year that it came out, and that's mentioned in the sources I showed you, which also demonstrate Johnson's unreliability. It's exasperating that people keep using and citing it. Most women who have abortions have already had children, so they've presumably had the same experiences that you have. Embryos and fetuses don't have minds; there's no such thing as a soul; and there's no harm in not being born.
1
It won't do any good. Nothing fails like prayer.
1
@Ff Tg That's really sexist.
1
@Suzi Logsdon That's a rambling word salad filled with falsehoods. Also, please stop shouting. Embryos aren't babies yet, and you can't ask them anything. There's no harm in not being born. "Fetal pain" is at best disputed and at worst outright nonsense. The assertion that fetuses "move away" is a canard, a point refuted a thousand times. Embryos have neither innocence nor guilt. Most women who have abortions already have children. They've seen ultrasounds. They know what they're dealing with. Don't you dare invoke the Holocaust- the Nazi regime harshly restricted abortion rights. Also, most Jews are pro-choice, stemming from the "breath of life" phrase in the Torah, or maybe the Talmud (not that Jews were the only victims of the Holocaust, but the point is that it's ignorant and offensive to refer to the Holocaust when arguing against abortion rights). My mother is pro-choice. That's how I know that I was wanted. If she had had an abortion when pregnant with me, I just wouldn't exist. I would not even be capable of knowing/caring/minding. It's a morally neutral act, and there's no harm in it. It's a matter of personhood, not life.
1
@Empyrean_Eternity They do resemble that, of course.
1
@daguroswaldson257 It's not necessarily a religious matter. I wasn't thinking of it that way.
1
@x-popone6817 Human, yes; person, no. Abortion is not murder.
1
@bromponie7330 Human, yes. Person, no. That comes later.
1
@x-popone6817 Personhood comes later. It refers to the criteria that make killing wrong: sentience, the will to live, hopes & dreams, biological autonomy, and all the other things that are taken away when a person is killed. In a rudimentary way, babies have that. Embryos do not and cannot. There's no harm in not being born.
1
@bromponie7330 True, and ghastly, but that doesn't change the meaning of words, nor invalidate the distinction.
1