Comments by "Scott Charney" (@scottcharney1091) on "CNN" channel.

  1. Many of them have a problem with contraception also.
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  2. Arm up in any way that's feasible for you (including non-gun options), organize, and prepare. They are.
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  3.  @davidduncan2535  She didn't start it.
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  4.  @aaronalegria1239  There's no harm in not being born.
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  5. If you're standing anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, you had better be armed already. If you aren't, do it! It can include non-gun options; whatever works. Organize (if only by spreading the word and having a trusted affinity group) and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are.
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  6. He was driving into the crowd.
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  7. I get such a kick out of his bellowing.
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  8.  @candypink5526  And now they don't necessarily get along. It's understandable that the de facto sisterhood they formed might not last forever, but even so, I feel like their solidarity would remain. Michelle has said that she wants the others to have the greatest happiness, and wants to see them again someday.
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  9.  @petem.3719  Nicolae and Elena Ceasescu went on trial after their government fell. It was a quick trial, just to make sure that the new government did their due diligence and everything was by-the-book. After that, those two were lined up against a wall and shot, and then Romania abolished the death penalty. The Total Fertility Rate (births-per-woman, which is different from the birth rate, but that's off the subject) leapt up after the law was put in place, hence the notorious orphanages, but it came back down after a few years, as people found ways to get around it. Still, the situation was a mess. Have you ever seen the movie "4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days"? If you forget the title, search for "Romanian abortion movie." It's set in the 80s, when the regime was still in power (albeit in trouble), and it is riveting, about the quest for an illegal abortion, and the need to conceal it. Watch it!
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  10.  @codyking3825  Embryos aren't babies.
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  11.  @artificialintelligence143  How so? There are no babies involved.
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  12. It's not half the population. That would imply that 100% of the population votes.
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  13.  @Samelamers  Asking for asylum is legal, and your scenario is completely implausible anyway.
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  14.  @Darkjack-FR  Both.
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  15. +The Future Millionaire  She is transgender, and transgender people face a great deal of violence and other mistreatment in the US. Coming out that way helps others in similar situations. It helps LGBs, and it helps the Ts as well.  That is courageous. As is/was this brave man.
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  16.  @TheWraith7  Did they not cover it at all? I would be surprised, as it was a relevant story. With that said, most of the casualties in those riots were the work of cops, vigilantes (shooting & ramming), accelerationist Boogaloo types, and apolitical lumpen. In any case, there's a big difference between civil unrest and a coup attempt.
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  17. The driver began to drive through the crowd (rather than wait a moment for them to pass), and the marchers were trying to get him to stop doing that. They weren't out attacking motorists willy-nilly.
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  18. Elevated Access is an organization that, at no cost, flies women to and from states where they can get abortions. It often means that everything can be accomplished in a matter of hours. They do great work.
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  19. The marchers were trying to stop the driver from moving through the crowd and hitting more people. Those in front were trying to say on their feet and couldn't jump aside.
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  20. Arm up (in any way that's feasible for you, including non-gun options), organize, and prepare. They are.
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  21.  @SipLeila  Economists, even conservative economists, say otherwise.
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  22. New!? This has been going on for a long time.
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  23.  @electricblue2920  No, the point isn't the species. Personhood, the characteristics by which we decide that killing is wrong, is what makes all the difference.
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  24. Yes he was, and yes there were.
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  25. @Nah Brah Your Wrong Abortion doesn't cause sterility, unless of course we're referring to unsafe, black-market abortions.
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  26.  @squantohaze5562  Who knows how many were carrying firearms and did not get caught?
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  27.  @nicholasbrown5511  They were trying to get him to stop after he started to drive through the crowd. There was absolutely no reason/motive/etc. to just attack a driver. That's ridiculous.
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  28. Rape exceptions make it clear- it's about sex. They want to punish people for having sex; see all the language about "consequences." To be fair, some anti-choicers are honest enough to oppose rape exceptions; at least they're consistent.
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  29.  @Tony-md7dk  Several of the attackers were caught with concealed firearms, other guns were stashed nearby, don't forget the explosives, and of course you saw all the melee weapons!
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  30. I've watched quite a few videos about this case, and I have realized something: there are some bad teeth in Cleveland.
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  31. The woman in question, Rosanne Boyland, collapsed outside the tunnel where some of the fiercest fighting occurred. Her death has been attributed to both an overdose of amphetamines (perhaps she was getting wired as she headed into battle) and getting trampled (while holding a "Don't Tread on Me" flag).
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  32. The prosecution was inept. They didn't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, based on everything the jury was privy to. (Yes, it's possible that some on the jury were practicing jury nullification.) There's a lower threshold for guilt when it comes to civil trials.
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  33.  @electricblue2920  Which comment does this refer to?
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  34.  @electricblue2920  Personhood is always how it starts, then people start making qualifications/exceptions. We all do; don't kid yourself.
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  35.  @electricblue2920  The DNA is irrelevant, and the dependency is a quasi-parasitic state. Nobody can force you to donate blood or an organ, even if the potential recipient will die otherwise.
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  36.  @electricblue2920  Embryos have no innocence, nor do they have guilt. They aren't developed enough for that sort of thing. (Also, is English not your first language? If it is not your first language, you are doing pretty well! If it is, then you need some help!)
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  37.  @electricblue2920  How does it not make sense? Nobody minds not being born. Nobody can have a preference about it. No one's autonomy/wishes are violated.
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  38.  @electricblue2920  I don't remember deleting a comment, but I might have had a typo or something. Anyway, you've missed the point. Someone else can presumably be found to take care of a child, and said child is no longer in that quasi-parasitic state with a host organism.
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  39.  @electricblue2920  As a matter of fact, refusing to donate organs can indeed kill one's own children. I'm referring to actual children there, with personhood, not mindless embryos/fetuses.
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  40.  @electricblue2920  Embryos & fetuses lack said rights. Yes, this does stem from science, along with the philosophical question of why/when/how we judge killing to be wrong.
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  41.  @electricblue2920  Innocence doesn't apply here. Embryos have neither innocence nor guilt. They lack the capacity. Being aborted is no punishment.
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  42.  @electricblue2920  No, you are dense if you can't grasp why such concepts as innocence don't apply to embryos. (Incidentally, in legalese, those judged to be not guilty are not necessarily innocent, but in the judgment of the jury and/or judge, the evidence against them did not meet the standard required for a conviction.) That bit about a rubber ball is actually apt, in that one can't judge a ball as being guilty or innocent, the same as with an embryo.
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  43.  @electricblue2920  Right, but they can still be accused of a crime, and then found incapable of understanding the nature of their acts. No one can accuse an embryo of anything. Guilt & innocence don't apply.
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  44. He drove into the crowd, rather than waiting for a moment so that they could pass. He was pushing people with his car; they can't just jump aside, as it's all that they can do to stay on their feet. The others in the crowd were trying to get him to stop.
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  45. On the contrary: https://www.economist.com/the-world-if/2017/07/13/a-world-of-free-movement-would-be-78-trillion-richer
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  46. *whose
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  47.  @PDVism  *Whom (I apologize, but I just can't help myself.)
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  48.  @yesorno1768  It started in 1967: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decree_770
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  49.  @MRJ_1975  The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured contributed to his strokes.
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  50. What does "wired more like [that of] a woman" mean, exactly?
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  51. Arm up in any way that's feasible for you (including non-gun options), organize (there are quite a few groups now), and prepare. They are.
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  52. Most of their cases aren't political per se.
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  53. If anything, he's easily setting up an answer about what the farmer needs to do.
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  54.  @danielhackney7806  The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured contributed to his strokes.
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  55. What's so pathetic?
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  56.  @squantohaze5562  Several of the attackers were caught with concealed firearms, other guns were stashed nearby, don't forget the explosives, and of course you saw all the melee weapons!
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  57.  @freedommatters2900  You're unhinged.
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  58. The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured contributed to his strokes.
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  59. Get off the conspiracy theories.
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  60. There's no harm in not being born.
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  61. Why isn't climate change the most important issue by far?
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  62.  @spenyspen18  Rules were made to be broken. The state wants us to all just be good and obey. Passing through traffic is a small price to pay. Traffic can wait a moment.
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  63.  @deadartist8827  There's no harm in not being born. If you think that embryos are tantamount to babies, then rape exceptions make no sense.
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  64. Tariffs cause nothing but damage.
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  65.  @judyvargas1309  Of course, some of the CP were complicit with the attackers.
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  66. They were crossing at a light. It changed while they were in progress. I've been in plenty of marches (and apolitical activities like Bike Party) in which "corking" an intersection for one cycle is a necessity. It's not the end of the world. This hothead tried to drive through the crowd, and they were trying to get him to stop as he was pushing people ahead of him. It's all that they could do to stay on their feet; it's no small thing to jump to one side!
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  67. No, if anything, those questions were softballs. They made it pretty obvious why such weapons are used in this setting.
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  68. He started driving into the crowd.
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  69.  @mattpowell6291  Hardy-fucking-har.
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  70. True, but that doesn't take away the need for abortion access.
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  71. Florence ADX is worse than death. I'm amazed that he lived that long.
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  72. Few people seem to notice that the other man in this clip is Pat Buchanan, and even he is appalled!
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  73. As a leftist gun owner, I can't quite agree with everything you said, but yes, not only do they seem to lose interest not long after birth, they also are usually hostile to preventing abortion by preventing pregnancy.
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  74. Religion is a hell of a drug.
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  75. Damn right. Of course, in your position, the BJP is talking about genocide of Indian minorities, so I hope people are getting organized and prepared!
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  76.  @doomguyayy  What does fascism have to do with Christianity? Francisco Franco, Efrain Rios Montt, and many others have shown us.
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  77. Because he was already driving into the crowd.
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  78. Inflation is a worldwide problem.
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  79.  @nou7833  They were crossing, and there's no reason to drive into anyone. They would have passed by in a few moments.
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  80.  @nou7833  They were crossing at a light, which changed as the group (which is one entity) was moving through. The car tried to drive through the group. People were getting shoved along by the car, and it's all that they could do to stay on their feet, let alone jump to one side or the other. The others were trying to get the driver to stop before the car ran over someone.
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  81.  @selfdo  You need an outlet for that aggression and confusion, preferably not involving weapons.
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  82. Why would you want to emulate either country?
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  83. Arm up in any way that's feasible for you (including non-gun options), organize, and prepare. The fascists/theocrats/etc. are.
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  84. I think that two were Capitol Police (only active on Capitol Hill) and two were Metropolitan Police (Metro PD), which is the police force for the city in general. Yes, one of the arrestees killed himself. The officers in question were traumatized by what happened to them. Another cop turned in her pistol, as she was afraid of what she might do with it.
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  85. What? Criticizing Israelis? That's anti-Semitic! Israeli officials condemned them!? Why, those officials are self-hating Jews! Veritable Kapos, I tell you! /S
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  86. The cops often side with people like that. If you're standing anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, you had better be armed already. If you aren't, do it! It can include non-gun options; whatever works. Organize (if only by spreading the word and having a trusted affinity group) and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are.
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  87.  @Suggesttt  There was no one on this continent at the time. Conquering is theft. And yes, it was deliberate.
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  88. He wasn't in danger. He started driving through the crowd, pushing people along (making it extremely difficult to jump to one side). They were just marchers, and they were on the move.
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  89. Let's not forget that the M.E./coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick suffered played a major role in his stroke(s).
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  90. False.
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  91.  @dorianshadesofgray  And?
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  92.  @raywhitehead730  And? It was her choice, and no one else's.
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  93.  @fudemocrats  Ok, but abortion isn't murder.
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  94. If you're standing anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, you had better be armed already. If you aren't, do it! It can include non-gun options; whatever works. Organize (if only by spreading the word and having a trusted affinity group) and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are.
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  95. The authorities, and by that I mean police, are often on their side. If you're standing anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, you had better be armed already. If you aren't, do it! It can include non-gun options; whatever works. Organize (if only by spreading the word and having a trusted affinity group) and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are.
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  96. That's really interesting. (It's spelled "Dei," by the way.)
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  97. If you're standing anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, you had better be armed already. If you aren't, do it! It can include non-gun options; whatever works. Organize (if only by spreading the word and having a trusted affinity group) and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are.
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  98.  @earthman808  You haven't been paying attention.
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  99.  @earthman808  Consider just how far up the chain the culpability goes, and how thoroughly it was premeditated.
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  100. They were crossing at a light. It changed while they were in progress. I've been in plenty of marches (and apolitical activities like Bike Party) in which "corking" an intersection for one cycle is a necessity. It's not the end of the world. This hothead tried to drive through the crowd, and they were trying to get him to stop as he was pushing people ahead of him. It's all that they could do to stay on their feet; it's no small thing to jump to one side!
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  101. See what the coroner said. The attacks Sicknick endured contributed to the strokes.
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  102. There were no open borders.
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  103.  @GO-GO_SO-SO  That's the point- the very existence of those categories of brain is disputed: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33008521/ Humans are sexually dimorphic in other ways (chromosomes, skeletons, amino acids in fingerprints, DNA, etc.), but not really in brains.
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  104.  @GO-GO_SO-SO  The idea of a "male brain" and a "female brain" is really simplistic.
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  105.  @guitardzan5641  You're being silly.
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  106. Unvaccinated and PureBlood? Good luck in your quest for the Herman Cain Award!
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  107. @Not Sure Most of the cops fought bravely (more than I would have imagined), but others seemed to sympathize with the attackers. Others were completely overwhelmed and realized that if they didn't stand aside, they would get killed.
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  108. The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured contributed to his strokes.
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  109. Enough of this foolish sport.
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  110.  @carlsavage614  No, not literally. Figuratively, however, it has been described as a "clean version of Hell."
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  111. It's so sad that the other two don't like her.
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  112. No, the tactic is vehicular assault.
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  113.  @squantohaze5562  And? Who knows how many people with firearms were never caught.
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  114.  @billshiff2060  There is no evidence for that.
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  115. The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured (maybe not a fire extinguisher, but that's neither here nor there) contributed to the strokes.
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  116.  @Kudz_LastmanStanding  I don't believe your story, and you're wrong.
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  117. *you're
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  118. This sort of discussion never seems to address what one is supposed to do in the face of near-unanimous rejection from those one wants to date or befriend. Besides that, this trend isn't so bad when one realizes that we as a species need fewer of us, or these predictions about the turn of the century will be moot, as the earth will otherwise be uninhabitable.
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  119. He was driving into the crowd.
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  120.  @your_belief_vs_everything  Why would they chase him, jump on the truck, etc.? He was driving through the crowd, pushing people (which makes it extremely difficult to jump to one side). They were trying to stop him from running over anyone. There was no reason to just attack a vehicle.
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  121.  @Callentay  They were crossing at a light. It changed while they were in progress. I've been in plenty of marches (and apolitical activities like Bike Party) in which "corking" an intersection for one cycle is a necessity. It's not the end of the world. This hothead tried to drive through the crowd, and they were trying to get him to stop as he was pushing people ahead of him. It's all that they could do to stay on their feet; it's no small thing to jump to one side!
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  122.  @markcosenza3274  You don't seem to know anything about communism nor California.
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  123. Arm up in any way that's feasible for you (including non-gun options), organize, and prepare. The fascists are.
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  124. She died of an amphetamine overdose as she charged into battle, but she might have been trod on anyway.
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  125.  @squantohaze5562  Once again: The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured contributed to his strokes.
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  126. That's where Antifa got their name, as they battled the Nazis in the streets. Similar processes played out in several other countries. In the UK, they defeated Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists. I suppose that there was a similar success in Switzerland, as the Nazi Party there couldn't get off the ground.
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  127.  @artificialintelligence143  Hence my comment. What's your point?
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  128. Consider having a little patience and less entitlement.
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  129. If you're standing anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, you had better be armed already. If you aren't, do it! It can include non-gun options; whatever works. Organize (if only by spreading the word and having a trusted affinity group) and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are.
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  130. You're being silly.
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  131. What are you saying?
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  132. To be perfectly accurate, there is no foreign military that could possibly take away freedom in the continental US (mostly due to geography), US imperialism kills lots of babies and people of all ages, and large standing militaries are, if anything, a threat to freedom. Then again, these days I often wonder about a coup.
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  133. Your training and experience will be very helpful when these fascists try to put their "Day of the Rope" fantasies into action. I trust that you're prepared.
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  134. *you're
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  135. Her name is Kyrsten, not Felicia.
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  136. Ok, but he was driving into the crowd, and pushing people in front. They can't get out of the way, because it's all they can do to stay on their feet. The others are trying to stop the driver, for that reason.
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  137.  @rhettsalsbury9394  They were crossing, and on the move. They would have been out of the way in moments. They are furiously moving backwards, because there isn't a moment to jump to the side. Nobody was just marching past vehicles and deciding to assault them. There's no reason for the driver to put anyone's life at risk.
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  138. Rushing through something unsafe like that would cause an absolute catastrophe for the company involved.
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  139. They didn't. The driver voluntarily drove into a crowd.
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  140.  @reallydude111  Embryos aren't babies, and having an abortion is one way to be responsible.
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  141. Yeah, I wonder if they would be okay if someone drove through the March for Life.
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  142.  @mattpowell6291  No, you don't. Abortions usually involve embryos. That's not in dispute.
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  143.  @mattpowell6291  That has nothing to do with it.
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  144. Hopefully they won't have to, as their rights will be restored before they grow up.
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  145. This is just infuriating. Does pressure from below affect jurisprudence?
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  146.  @justicewilson7929  Not everyone can easily do that, and rights should not be up for a vote.
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  147. He's a moderator, and you know it.
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  148. Forty or so years of terrorism have been pretty successful.
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  149.  @cy_young_9104  Having an abortion is one way to take responsibility. There is no murder involved.
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  150.  @chrisk6668  Embryos aren't babies.
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  151. Abortion is an economic issue.
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  152. He attacked them. Marches take the street, that's how it works. Instead of waiting for a moment for the march to pass, he decided to try and drive through the crowd and possibly injure or even kill someone (and put himself at risk for retaliation). They weren't attacking people in cars; there's no reason whatsoever to do that.
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  153.  @restro3058  If someone's being shoved along by a car, it's all they can do to say on their feet. Jumping to one side is very difficult. Marches take the street. They always have. That's how things get done. Drivers can wait a few moments, or perhaps join in. There's no reason to risk someone's life and limb.
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  154. It wasn't a random car. It was driven by somebody who was on the attack.
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  155.  @CCPLord  There is no evidence for that, obviously. You know this.
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  156.  @budcunningham6732  Marches take the streets. That's how it works. They would expect that drivers not drive into non-violent crowds, and just wait a moment for the march to pass by.
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  157.  @ajwalker1912  True, but marches take the streets. That's how it happens. When one can wait a few moments for a crowd to pass, there's no need to try and drive through it. It's not worth anyone's life & limb.
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  158.  @kkandola9072  Do you not get it? They're on the move. I don't know if lanes were accessible or not, or what else happened before this, but it's not worth vehicular assault.
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  159.  @kkandola9072  It was a march. Marches are moving.
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  160.  @kevinouellette5316  The cheap insults are unbecoming.
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  161. Don't do anything that looks like a threat! Instead, be prepared to protect yourself. If you're anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, get armed in whatever way is feasible for you. Make an affinity group with people you trust, and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are. Spread the word.
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  162.  @Tiffanydw4  *you're
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  163. *Capitol
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  164. Also: Must *have
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  165.  @jj8stin  Embryos aren't babies yet.
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  166.  @westdeuce  The phrase is "rite of passage," i.e. a ceremony (or act of some type) that marks one's transition to adulthood, or to another new place in society, or whatever. No, nobody is saying that about abortion.
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  167. *you're
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  168. They watched TV while in captivity.
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  169. @Megaman-X The coroner/M.E. explicitly stated that everything that happened to Sicknick contributed to the strokes.
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  170. If you're standing anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, you had better be armed already. If you aren't, do it! It can include non-gun options; whatever works. Organize (if only by spreading the word and having a trusted affinity group) and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are.
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  171.  @bobevans9955  The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured contributed to his strokes.
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  172. I am. However, please stop shouting.
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  173. True. Also, stop shouting.
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  174. For what? Civil unrest is nothing compared to a premeditated coup attempt.
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  175.  @censorshipisreal3153  *you're
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  176.  @froggy1992-y8o  He has done things, but they are bad things.
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  177. The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured contributed to his strokes.
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  178. It doesn't hinge on that, and there is no lawfare here.
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  179. Yeah, I see what you did there.
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  180.  @MaryJones-rx3my  They have biological autonomy, among other things. They're not in a quasi-parasitic relationship with a woman. Someone can presumably found to take care of them. They have personhood. They have no capacity to be guilty of anything, so I don't know about the usefulness of the word "innocent," but they definitely are persons.
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  181.  @MaryJones-rx3my  How is abortion a punishment, or anything worse? Nobody minds not being born.
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  182.  @MaryJones-rx3my  And if you weren't? So what?
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  183.  @MaryJones-rx3my  There isn't any murder involved. Regarding newborns, they aren't in such a situation. They have personhood. Someone can presumably to take care of them. There's a difference.
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  184.  @MaryJones-rx3my  No, not every human is a person. Newborns are no longer in a quasi-parasitic relationship with a perhaps unwilling host. In contrast, someone can presumably be found to take care of a newborn.
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  185.  @MaryJones-rx3my  True, but embryos and fetuses aren't children.
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  186. The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured contributed to his strokes.
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  187. And? That justifies vehicular assault?
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  188.  @skankhunt3624  You are correct, but: *you're.
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  189.  @jaygibson5057  Many of them suffered serious trauma, as you can see here.
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  190.  @jaygibson5057  I can't see what for a reason? Corroboration that one of the attackers tased his own scrotum? What would it indicate, one way or the other?
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  191.  @jaygibson5057  Hundreds have been arrested since then, many for that charge.
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  192.  @jaygibson5057  That's not true at all! Some of them were arrested on that day; it's well-documented and not in dispute.
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  193.  @jaygibson5057  You're just messing with us, right? That's really, really silly.
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  194.  @billshiff2060  Really. How so?
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  195. Several arrestees were caught with concealed firearms, more guns were stashed nearby, don't forget the explosives, and of course you can see all of the melee weapons.
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  196.  @extremelycareless2541  I can tell.
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  197.  @extremelycareless2541  I'll bite. Who does control the media?
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  198.  @guardtheham1233  In a lot of cases, simply going through with the pregnancy is the problem, not only childrearing. You will notice also that very few unwanted pregnancies lead to adoption.
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  199.  @JLitt-us4vs  First, embryos aren't babies. Second, the word is "you're."
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  200.  @naasiakapri2498  *they're
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  201. Edgar Casiano Sure.
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  202. So, Nothing Much, do you know anything much about how difficult it is to get a visa for a lower-skilled worker? https://reason.org/wp-content/uploads/files/a87d1550853898a9b306ef458f116079.pdf
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  203. Stop shouting.
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  204. He was asking softball questions, obviously.
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  205. Pen?
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  206. +Joseph G   Remember (you might know this already) that the protesters were singing "The Internationale." That is the socialist anthem, not just used by communists or indeed any state socialists; anarchists sing it as well. As for BLM, your comment is way off the mark. There are many tendencies involved there, all opposed to police brutality, particularly of the racist kind.
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  207. First, a world of free movement would be $78 trillion richer. Free markets, you see. Borders make everyone poorer. Even conservative economists acknowledge this. This is from The Economist, and they know what they're talking about: https://www.economist.com/the-world-if/2017/07/13/a-world-of-free-movement-would-be-78-trillion-richer Second, how, exactly, are lower-skilled workers supposed to migrate to the US? https://reason.org/wp-content/uploads/files/a87d1550853898a9b306ef458f116079.pdf Third, if you know anything about how horribly the US has treated and continues to treat Latin America, you might have some more empathy. Fourth, I'ma laugh I'ma cry, if you don't see the need to apologize for genocide, you ought to re-think your life.
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  208. *you're
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  209. @N F It's the object. "Who" is the subject.
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  210. @N F I'm not sure what you're responding to.
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  211. It's far from petty, and considering the window was down, he could have said that he had an emergency. I was in a protest last night, and we got out of the way for an ambulance.
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  212. *peddling
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  213. Cite?
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  214. He was driving into a crowd, and they were trying to get him to stop. He's the violent one.
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  215.  @LisaGTrueCrimeGuru  Amanda did insist that the authorities had to come immediately, before Castro returned; did she not say why?
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  216. No, he was attacking them. Also, it's "might have," not "might of."
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  217. Another commenter wrote that they were in a situation like that, and when you're being pushed by a vehicle, it's really hard to just jump to the side.
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  218. Epithets, not epitaphs.
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  219.  @joshlock4627  Stop shouting. Embryos aren't infants. They lack personhood, and thus they have no choice in the matter. There's no harm in not being born.
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  220.  @Suggesttt  That's not true regarding benefits. As it happens, the benefits accrue to the lot of us- ask any economist; migrants are a boon, not a burden.
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  221. I don't trust Kennedy! (Nor, from my spot on the hard left, do I trust CNN!)
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  222. The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured contributed to his strokes.
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  223.  @shanehickman3261  I didn't say that he was, and neither did the coroner/medical examiner. I think that initially came from the police, and then the media reported it until more information came out.
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  224. Why is it close?
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  225. @Juan Chef Many people are now facing weapons charges. Pay attention.
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  226. Florida Man
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  227.  @edsta714  True, but: *you're.
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  228.  @seanswinton6242  That, and perhaps the chemical sprays, and the very high stress levels.
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  229. He drove into the crowd first.
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  230. It's not matriarchy, but it is involuntary servitude. Besides, if you need a draft, you shouldn't fight the war. It's clearly unpopular.
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  231. Remove the helmets (or go back to the leather style) and require that everyone stand up, a la rugby. CTE can still happen but is less likely.
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  232.  Terry Hawk  Stop shouting.
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  233. ... than in/inside a church. Without that preposition, it seems like a church has been inside Stormy Daniels, albeit for less time than Trump has.
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  234. No. This is simple public health information, and it's been known for a long time.
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  235. If you're anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, get armed in whatever way is feasible for you. Make an affinity group with people you trust, and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are. Spread the word.
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  236. R.I.P. Abbie.
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  237. He was driving into the crowd. Sidewalk? Median? Have you never been in a march before?
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  238. Shouldn't be here? Asking for asylum is legal. The report says that the driver has legal status.
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  239. They didn't show any bits of the animated segments! Those are great!
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  240. Complicit? Either way, that's a non sequitur.
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  241. The intimidator was the person driving into a crowd.
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  242. *you're
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  243.  @SvenskSork  *you're
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  244.  @Wombats-1  Sure thing!
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  245.  @roxannaweaver2155  Indeed!
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  246. The driver is the one who threw a fit.
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  247. Marches take the streets.
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  248.  @SadShane  Yes, very!
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  249. There are (and were) no open borders. That's a canard.
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  250.  @GO-GO_SO-SO  It looks like it's a spectrum, or some have used the term "mosaic." It seems complicated.
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  251.  @GO-GO_SO-SO  Indeed.
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  252. That's not how it happened, and you know it.
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  253. Many doctors refuse to sterilize people, based on paternalistic, condescending grounds.
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  254. If he actually thinks that an embryo is tantamount to a baby, then rape/incest exceptions don't make sense. At least he's consistent.
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  255. You're assuming facts not in evidence.
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  256. That's hotly disputed.
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  257. *saw A sow is a different thing altogether!
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  258. That's quite a deflection.
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  259. "Rotunda" is fun to say.
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  260.  @davis7099  "Half your brain" is a bad choice of words in context. Kennedy may have been admirable domestically, but he committed war crimes abroad (like nearly all Presidents from the 20th Century onward). However, with that said, he had sex with Audrey Hepburn, Marilyn Monroe, etc., so I'll give him kudos for that.
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  261. And?
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  262. That's not how a march works.
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  263. Marches take the streets. Would you support someone driving into the March for Life?
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  264.  @caseyclark5392  You served your government, not your country. Also, who was going to come to the US from abroad and take away such freedoms?
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  265. *you're (x3) Also, you don't know what you're talking about. What's your stance regarding James Fields?
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  266.  @WarAgeTV  would *have
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  267. *lo
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  268. He was driving into a crowd. If you're being pushed by a truck, it's not easy to just jump to the side. It's all you can do to stay on your feet.
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  269. Armed minorities are harder to oppress!
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  270. *biased There's an "ed" on the end. "Bias" is a noun.
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  271. If you're anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, get armed in whatever way is feasible for you. Make an affinity group with people you trust, and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are. Spread the word.
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  272. He assaulted them.
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  273. Get armed, folks.
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  274.  @MyName-pl7zn  Precisely.
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  275. Awful? It's a shame that any pregnancies are unwanted (or become unwanted due to changing circumstances), but there's no harm in not being born.
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  276. He was driving through a crowd, and they wanted him to stop so they could pass through.
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  277. This is from the aftermath of Eric Rudolph's bombing of a clinic in Sandy Springs, GA.
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  278. Someone with your skills and experience will be very helpful when the same fascists who tried to overturn the election try to put their "Day of the Rope" fantasies into action.
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  279. He was the attacker, driving through a crowd.
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  280. Having an abortion is one way to take responsibility.
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  281.  @redhussar1436 Sure, and that's often the responsible thing to do.
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  282. First of all, it's "I'd have," not "I'd of." Second, they didn't burn anything.
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  283. I think that, thanks to the license plate, the driver has been identified, but it will of course take public pressure to get the cops to act.
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  284. No, not least because there were no open border policies!
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  285.  @robertjohnson1681  I doubt it, inasmuch as the cops in those riots were seldom outnumbered, overwhelmed, and beaten/sprayed/etc. relentlessly. Indeed, most of the casualties were their doing, along with vigilantes, provocateurs, and apolitical lumpen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_violence_incidents_during_George_Floyd_protests
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  286.  @robertjohnson1681  They went on for months, in many different locations. There's a big difference between civil unrest and a coup attempt.
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  287.  @billshiff2060  Elaborate.
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  288.  @billshiff2060  You haven't been paying any attention at all to the hearings, or the long process of discovering/compiling evidence, have you? The event was pre-meditated, and part of a multi-point plan to overturn a perfectly legitimate election. The attackers came within a short distance (40 feet in the case of Pence) and a few minutes of lynching lawmakers (among others), preventing the certification of the election, and causing a constitutional crisis. This was far beyond a minor disturbance! Even the battle itself was more than that. Most of the casualties in the 2020 riots were the work of cops, vigilantes (numerous ramming and shooting attacks), provocateurs (Boogaloo etc.), and apolitical lumpen. They went on for months, all around the country, but the impact was nothing compared with, say, 1967-1968, among other incidents. Also, the phrase is "shoo-in," and I don't watch CNN clips all that often, let alone the channel itself (I never watch TV per se).
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  289. It ought to be pronounced "Par-lay."
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  290.  @nineteen8026  There were no open borders. Quit repeating that canard. Besides, that's no reason not to get vaccinated!
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  291. *you're He was the attacker.
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  292. Embryos aren't infants yet.
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  293.  @BabyGirl-bg3vo  I hope that you have learned to use punctuation in the four years since you made that comment. It was nearly incoherent.
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  294.  @TheMadHatterx  More like 4'11'', as I understand it.
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  295. I'd *have... and no, he drove into the crowd. He was inflicting fear.
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  296. That's bloody nonsense, and you know it.
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  297.  @danielmackay8099  No, but the conspiracy theory about him is ridiculous.
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  298.  @danielmackay8099  If your eyes are lying, then don't trust them.
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  299. He had already driven into the crowd.
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  300. One has to take the streets. That's how things get done. Don't drive into crowds.
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  301.  @markogle5364  It's based on scientific analysis.
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  302.  @archieclement2977  What makes you dismiss the coroner's report?
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  303.  @archieclement2977  And what astute observations are you referring to here?
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  304. That's how a march works.
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  305. It's very alarming, because rights shouldn't be up for a vote. Tyranny of the majority, you know. Quite a few states are very backward.
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  306. Bootlicker.
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  307. God is imaginary.
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  308.  @AG-wh6jw  Look up the "argument from design" fallacy. Among other things, it requires us to believe that this designer is downright malicious. Also, you're assuming facts not in evidence when you claim that A) Satan exists, and B) you know what this entity says.
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  309.  @AG-wh6jw I think that "argument from cliche" is a fallacy.
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  310.  @JimmyJames10-k7v ?
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  311.  @Nino_J  You're welcome!
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  312. If you want to win the Herman Cain Award, what can I say? However, don't put children at risk. They should all have all of their vaccinations, especially MMR!
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  313. The anti-vaxxers lied, if that's what you mean.
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  314. Cite?
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  315. *you're
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  316.  @Verybor  Exactly. The Sons of Liberty wore disguises and committed property destruction/political vandalism, and they're considered heroes.
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  317. Need to be? We need to be in the streets against this backward step for the country. The driver was the attacker.
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  318.  @maryc8552  He was driving into the crowd, and they were trying to get him to stop. If one is being shunted along by a car, it's extremely difficult to jump to the side, as it's all one can do to stay standing.
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  319.  @maryc8552  If one is being shunted along by a vehicle, it's very hard to jump to the side, as it's all one can do to stay standing.
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  320.  @maryc8552  They were on the move, either in front of traffic or filtering between the vehicles.
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  321. He attacked them.
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  322. Say what you want about CNN, drug companies, etc., but there are a whole lot of people in the comments who are itching to win the Herman Cain Award.
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  323. Marches take the streets. It's how things happen.
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  324. True. (There's no need for the asterisk.)
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  325.  @rickconley9660  Many of the officers were completely traumatized by what they were subjected to. Yes, four of them offed themselves, making specific reference to the attacks.
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  326.  @ClaytonGilbert-s2t  Gunther Hashida, Howard "Howie" Liebengood, Kyle DeFreytag, and Jeffrey Smith. They explicitly stated (or it was otherwise clear) why they did it. This was shortly after the attack.
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  327.  @ClaytonGilbert-s2t  Yes, one or two of the arrestees took their own lives as well. The difference is that they were the attackers.
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  328.  @ClaytonGilbert-s2t  Many of the attackers came with plans and equipment, including weapons. Thousands more joined them. Nancy Pelosi had nothing to do with the amount of protection one way or the other, and I'm really tired of that canard.
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  329.  @ClaytonGilbert-s2t  To whom are you referring, specifically?
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  330. No, this is yet another vehicular attack.
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  331.  @smdog66  Yeah, I know about those laws. Those in favor apparently don't think that it will come back to bite them.
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  332. You're. Also, while Michael Kadunce is correct, they omitted a crucial comma.
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  333. A lot of the 6th January Putsch attackers are looking at significant time.
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  334. That was still sexist and inappropriate.
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  335.  @microitos9754  That's not a rebuttal.
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  336.  @mhall801  Pay attention.
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  337. Torquemada, is that you?
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  338. He started it. This has happened repeatedly.
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  339. There were no open borders. Stop spreading this canard.
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  340. One has to take the streets. That's how things happen. Have a little patience.
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  341. Armed minorities are harder to oppress. Leftists have always known this.
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  342. Yeah, that term ought not to be used in this context. It's become so common, unfortunately.
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  343. The coroner/M.E. made it clear that the attacks upon Sicknick played a role in his stroke(s). As for Babbitt, she was breaching the last line of defense before the people trapped in the gallery. It's true that if the police in that hallway had the usual riot gear they could have clubbed her/shot her with "less lethal" stuff at first, but they weren't equipped like that, and there was a big crowd behind her, and just a few of them.
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  344. It is a frequent occurrence. Vehicular attacks have gotten pretty common, and it's ominous.
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  345.  @Joyful-gu5bj  You're thinking of Robin Williams. Keep in mind that his physical health was also in deep trouble, and he had a form of dementia that doesn't usually begin with memory loss; it causes spikes in anxiety/depression/etc.
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  346. No, he was driving into a crowd.
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  347. Asking for asylum is legal. Migrants pay far more into the system than they are able to receive. That's especially true for undocumented people!
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  348. Marches take the streets. Have a few minutes of patience.
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  349. Armed minorities are harder to oppress!
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  350.  @jajaja8  You know, the process with an overwhelming scientific consensus with an avalanche of empirical evidence. Why don't deniers publish?
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  351. It was still a vehicular assault.
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  352. Ok, but that's not what happened.
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  353. The coppers are often on the side of such people. If you're standing anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, you had better be armed already. If you aren't, do it! It can include non-gun options; whatever works. Organize (if only by spreading the word and having a trusted affinity group) and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are.
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  354.  @thethirdman225  Of course there were. What makes you think that I don't know otherwise?
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  355.  @thethirdman225  I don't know if they were tied to the original organization (Antifaschtistische Aktion) founded in Germany, but the rest of the situation was the same.
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  356.  @thethirdman225  I don't know for sure, but the head of the Swiss Nazi supporters (Wilhelm Gustloff) was assassinated, and in general there was a fierce public backlash against the Swiss far-right, which marginalized such groups. That didn't stop some Swiss elites in the military, finance, etc. from profiting from the Holocaust and such.
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  357. If you're standing anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, you had better be armed already. If you aren't, do it! It can include non-gun options; whatever works. Organize (if only by spreading the word and having a trusted affinity group) and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are.
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  358. He was driving into a crowd, and they were trying to get him to stop.
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  359.  @broadside9236  No, they want him to stop so he doesn't hit anyone. The marchers were passing through the area. Rather than wait for a few moments, he attacked them.
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  360.  @broadside9236  They were being pushed. In a case like that, it's all that one can do to stay on one's feet, let along jump to the side. Do you side with James Fields?
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  361.  @ericapoitras9223  Secular pro-lifers don't, but the religious ones (the majority) have become (or always have been) uneasy with contraception. For one thing, they have a problem with unmarried people having sex in general, and particularly sex without "consequences" (they sometimes use that term) in general. For another, many are convinced that the most effective contraceptives (IUDs and implants, often referred to as LARCs [Long-Acting Reversible Contraceptives]) are actually abortifacients. Some say the same about emergency contraception as well. They also subscribe to a concept called "risk compensation," in which a false sense of security leads to people acting in ways that end up harming themselves and others. It's studied in relation to (for example) protective gear in some sports. In this context, the idea is that people will get a false sense of security due to contraception, and have so much sex (or become lax about proper use) that eventually they will have a contraceptive failure. Do a search for the phrase "contraceptive mentality," and you'll see what I'm talking about. For an early look at these developments, search for an article titled "Contra-contraception."
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  362.  @keepingitpinnedlongasican2513  There's a big gap between a march taking the streets and vehicular assault.
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  363.  @keepingitpinnedlongasican2513  That's true. The driver started it, and they were trying to stop it.
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  364.  @keepingitpinnedlongasican2513  To the extent that that's true, it doesn't justify vehicular assault. They were moving anyway. You're endorsing violent vigilantism against no greater threat than being inconvenienced. They were crossing the street. The light changed while the group was still moving. I've been in a great many protests, along with non-political events like Bike Party, in which "corking" an intersection for a cycle is a necessity. It doesn't warrant a potentially-lethal response from anybody.
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  365.  @Koreanbabysleeps  ?
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  366. He already drove into the crowd.
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  367. Indeed, and nobody is blaming the victims there, unlike in this video's comments.
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  368. This interview was conducted a long time ago; she was still very gradually coming out into the light, as it were. Plus, this clip might be out of context.
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  369. He started driving through the crowd. It's just like a liberal to have a certain position but be unwilling to undertake any direct action.
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  370. Troll.
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  371. On the contrary, he drove into a crowd.
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  372. They have neither innocence nor guilt. They don't have the capability. They lack personhood. There's no harm in not being born.
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  373. There's no harm in not being born. This is the part I can never understand.
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  374. He was driving into a crowd, and they were trying to get him to stop.
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  375. The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured contributed to his strokes.
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  376. There is no abortion industry, you fool.
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  377. Connection?
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  378. I've watched multiple abortions on video. I'm belligerently pro-choice. Embryos aren't babies.
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  379.  @JumboShot33  That's the point. The cops show much less restraint against leftists. I should know.
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  380. That's a non sequitur.
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  381. There has never been such a time.
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  382. *bawling
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  383. Not this again. There's a big gap between civil unrest and a premeditated coup attempt. Most of the casualties in 2020 were inflicted by cops, vigilantes (ramming and shooting), accelerationist/provocateur types (Boogaloo etc.), and apolitical lumpen. In contrast, the attackers in J6 came within a few feet and a few moments of lynching lawmakers/staff, preventing certification of the election, and causing a Constitutional crisis.
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  384.  @notme8705  The attack was the culmination of months of different attempts to overturn the election. The potential consequences there were much higher than anything that happened over that year.
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  385.  @notme8705  First, I'm not a Democrat. Please, that's a bourgeois neoliberal capitalist party, reformist at best. Second, I wish that they gave full support to uprisings against structural racism and other forms of oppression.
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  386.  @middleagedjabroni  Most of the police fought bravely, but some may have sided with the attackers.
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  387.  @TheWraith7  Keep in mind that there's a big difference between civil unrest and a coup attempt.
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  388.  @TheWraith7  True; most of the casualties were the work of cops, vigilantes (shooting & ramming), accelerationist Boogaloo types, and (as is likely in this case) apolitical lumpen.
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  389.  @TheWraith7  Read my response again.
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  390. The coroner said that everything that happened to Sicknick the day before contributed to the strokes.
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  391.  @maxvoss9070  They're trying to stop it because they can't get out of the way.
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  392.  @vinnyv949  "Media benefactors..." I wish. No, going to the state for permission to protest defeats the whole purpose. Direct action gets the goods.
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  393.  @Campo_  They were on the move, crossing. Don't endanger people's lives (including your own) for nothing.
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  394.  @talonsilverhawk5763  The crowd was crossing and would have been out of the way in a moment. The driver tried to go through.
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  395.  @talonsilverhawk5763  If one is being shunted along by a car, it's all one can do to just stay standing, let alone move to the side.
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  396.  @talonsilverhawk5763  The person on the far side is being pushed along, the closer person is trying to persuade the driver to stop, and in both cases you can see that it takes a few moments for them to move aside. No matter what, there was no reason to drive through the crowd. They were passing by.
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  397.  @talonsilverhawk5763  It's ridiculous to claim that a brief delay is worth risking the life and limb of others, and one's own.
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  398.  @talonsilverhawk5763  Neither of those were/was happening here.
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  399.  @talonsilverhawk5763  I've been in a great many marches, and we're always on the lookout for emergency vehicles.
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  400.  @talonsilverhawk5763  This wasn't, say, the 1992 L.A. Riots. This was just a crowd on the move.
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  401.  @talonsilverhawk5763  I don't have video of it, but I'm basing this on other incidents of the same type.
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  402.  @talonsilverhawk5763  Not out of the blue, or at least not in an event like this.
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  403.  @CakeProDuckShins  Vehicular assault is against the law.
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  404.  @joshuaoverlord5327  Yes, being pushed along by a car makes it very difficult to do anything else but stay on one's feet. The other protesters were trying to get the driver to stop before anyone got hurt.
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  405.  @joshuaoverlord5327  First, it's "they're." Second, they were in the process of crossing. A large group/march sometimes has to "cork" an intersection, it's the nature of the beast. As the truck was shoving people in front of it, others tried to stop it, to prevent further injuries.
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  406.  @joshuaoverlord5327  The truck isn't moving very quickly, but it's quick enough to put people in the situation I'm mentioning.
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  407.  @joshuaoverlord5327  They were on the move. That's what happens in marches.
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  408.  @joshuaoverlord5327  You've no experience with this sort of thing, have you?
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  409.  @joshuaoverlord5327  No, experience enough to understand that spontaneous marches and other similar events take the streets, and are on the move. Not wanting to wait a few moments isn't worth potentially killing or maiming someone, or, for that matter, putting yourself in danger.
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  410.  @lightsdarkness7714  ?
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  411. They were crossing, and would have passed by in a few moments.
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  412.  @Koreanbabysleeps  He was pushing people with the car. It's not a simple thing to just jump aside, as they were simply trying to stay on their feet. The others were trying to get him to stop, for that reason.
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  413.  @rhettsalsbury9394  You can see them being pushed.
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  414.  @nal101  Protest marches take the streets. That's how it goes. They were apparently crossing anyway and would have been out of the area in moments. There's no reason to be a hothead about things.
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  415.  @nal101  Ok, but that doesn't excuse coming very close to killing and maiming people.
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  416. Hardy fucking har. Sadist.
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  417. That's not what happened.
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  418. I'm not saying that this is the motive, and I don't endorse such bans, but keep in mind that Maus is actually really racist. Spiegelman depicts all Polish non-Jews as pigs, not only the cops! Spiegelman of course is Jewish, and the symbolism of such an unclean animal is obvious. It implies also that the Polish non-Jews were not on the "food chain" of the Nazis, which is absolute offensive nonsense; Poles were one of the larger categories of Holocaust victims. Poland lost a large percentage of its population, both to the specific Holocaust (camps, Einsatzgruppen death squads, etc.), but also to violence from the German forces & collaborators more generally. Spiegelman also depicts all Americans as dogs, regardless of race. Is this supposed to mean that Americans don't have racial divides?? Besides, all of this seems to buy into Nazi racial pseudo-science, categorizing people into biologically distinct "races" with incompatible characteristics. Did he really want to give the impression that he agreed with the Nazis that Jews are weak-but-dangerous vermin?
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  419. Marches take the streets.
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  420. Yes, to protect him from the anti-vaxx yahoos.
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  421. That's impressive, considering how short she is. (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)
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  422. Migrants, no matter their status, commit less crime than US-born citizens. The reason should be obvious; why jeopardize one's chance at a better life (after risking so much) by committing crimes?
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  423. What's the reason for the scare quotes?
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  424. That's so disingenuous.
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  425. They were trying to stop the truck from driving through the crowd. We've seen this before.
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  426. It's "you're." Marches involve taking the streets. Have a little patience, or better yet, join in.
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  427.  Truth Teller  Bootlicker.
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  428. Marches are disruptive by nature. They take the streets. Business-as-usual cannot continue. Have patience, or, better yet, join.
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  429.  @momonkbeavis  Embryos are not babies. They don't have personhood. Having an abortion is one way to deal with said mistake. Also, if you think that embryos are tantamount to babies, and an abortion is murder, then rape exceptions make no sense.
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  430.  @cheyennehummingbird676  Of course human embryos and human fetuses are human. It's a question of personhood, the criteria that make killing wrong. Those come later. Yes, of course I was an embryo. So what? There's no harm in not being born.
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  431. And?
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  432. He was driving into a crowd.
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  433. Embryos aren't children.
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  434. Walking to school through the snow, butt naked, uphill both ways?
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  435. He was driving into the crowd, and they were trying to get him to stop.
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  436. He was already driving into the crowd.
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  437. Don't Arab Americans (among others) realize that the Christian Right supports all Israeli aggression and expansion?
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  438. *They're Yes, to try and get him to stop driving through the crowd.
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  439.  @mattpowell6291  Embryos aren't babies. They are human, but not persons yet. They have no rights.
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  440. I'm on your side, but there's no such thing as a soul.
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  441. The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured contributed to his strokes.
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  442. This is off the subject, but you know how Republicans such are always bashing "big blue cities" like L.A. and the Bay Area? The most dangerous parts of CA are the GOP-run areas like Fresno and Bakersfield! Now, they don't have the very serious problems that those bigger cities have these days, which just goes to show that neoliberal capitalist parties don't have the will nor the ability to deal with the problems that they create!
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  443.  @kdapson1452  That's partly true, but their murderous foreign policies included support for lots of fascists, monarchists, and so on.
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  444.  @punchthem4582  "Gov agents" is ridiculous, and as for the cops, most of them (more than I would have imagined) fought bravely, but there were definitely Trumpists among them. As I've already pointed out (and as is no secret), the attackers were indeed armed. They came within a few yards and a few moments of catching (and likely killing) lawmakers and staff, preventing certification of the election, and causing a constitutional crisis. That's a much bigger deal than civil unrest; also, no one other than a military has the capability to burn that building to the ground. Don't be silly.
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  445.  @punchthem4582  There's no evidence for any of that. Get off of the conspiracy theories.
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  446.  @punchthem4582  "American [sic] hating" is just a tired snarl phrase; it's the kind of thing that Birchers would say. Nobody worships CNN (least of all me!), and I'm not a Democrat.
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  447. Most of the cops fought bravely, but some of them collaborated with the attackers. It isn't surprising.
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  448. There's no hijab law in Lebanon.
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  449. Disingenuous.
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  450.  @icausedbidenflation9999  You're a troll, but what the hell: No, the vast majority of them broke in as the police tried to resist. A few of the cops may have collaborated with the attackers. Said attackers came within a few feet and a few moments of lynching lawmakers & staff, preventing certification of the election, and causing a constitutional crisis. Some were caught with firearms, other guns were stashed nearby, don't forget the explosives, others were caught with blades, and don't forget the hundreds of blunt instruments, chemical sprays, tasers, etc.
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  451. The theocrats aren't gone yet, that's what's happening. If you're not armed yet (in any way that's feasible for you), and at least loosely organized and prepared, you should be.
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  452. It's very American, as it happens.
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  453. Why is this election even close?
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  454. Don't blame the victims. He was trying to drive through a crowd.
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  455. You're right, but please stop shouting.
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  456.  @fpshooterful  A better idea is to put an asterisk before the word, and another after it.
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  457.  @selfdo  Calm down, take a breath, stop shouting, and learn about paragraphs. Also, the playground insults ("tard?" Really?) are unbecoming.
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  458. There are a lot of fools in the comments not noticing that, if anything, this story was pro-AR-15.
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  459.  @douglasreagan4979  As a matter of fact yes, humans made up laws on their own. They also made up their deities, unfortunately.
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  460.  @janetprice85  True, those laws are aimed at violent third parties assaulting women, not a procedure performed with consent.
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  461. Maybe he should not have tried to drive through a crowd, and just have a little patience.
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  462.  @NC_SUGAR  Yeah, as he was driving through the crowd, they were trying to get him to stop.
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  463.  @alternate3307  They have the right to try and prevent him from hitting more people. I thought that was obvious. Also: *you're.
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  464.  @alternate3307  That sort of thing all happens at once. The car was moving through the crowd, and you can see here that it's pushing people.
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  465. What the hell are you talking about?
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  466.  @CCPLord  First, that's a red herring; I asked for some kind of evidence of your very silly assertion. Second, what of it? Hunter Biden has taken advantage of his father's name for corrupt business opportunities (this should sound familiar to you). What does that have to do with this?
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  467.  @CCPLord  I didn't say that it was fake. Of course it isn't. So what? It's not a particularly big deal. Your last two sentences are really silly.
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  468. I don't like Big Pharma any more than you do, but you sound like you're looking at the Herman Cain Award.
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  469. That's a wild hyperbole.
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  470. He was on the attack, and what are you trying to say with your last sentence?
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  471.  @aussies4trump76  Rubio, among others, admitted that Trump was guilty, but that he (Rubio) wasn't willing to vote to convict.
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  472.  @MichiganWinteriswhyimhere  He was impeached twice. You don't seem to know what that means.
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  473. ?
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  474. This is slightly off the main point, but it's perfectly legal to ask for asylum. The border is not open, not even close. Under Biden, people die in the desert. Under Trumpists like Abbott, people die in the river.
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  475. He was already driving into the crowd, and they were trying to get him to stop. I remember Charlottesville.
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  476. The only attacker was the driver.
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  477.  @NickKautz  The driver attacked them. Have you never been in a march before? The crowd was on the move. They weren't targeting vehicles for attack (that makes no sense, and you would know if they were!), they were just passing through. That's how it works. The driver can wait a few moments (or better yet, join in).
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  478.  @NickKautz  That's funny, I've been on countless such marches (including one a couple of nights ago), and there's absolutely no reason nor motive to harass drivers. In a case like this, rather than wait for a moment and let the crowd pass, the driver acts like a macho hothead and decides that it's worth possibly killing and/or maiming someone (and putting themselves in danger of retaliation) by driving through the crowd. Your last clause is simply mean-spirited and ignorant.
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  479.  @ThisisKyle  They're on the move. They'll pass by. Most drivers can wait for a few moments, rather than deciding that it's worth possibly killing/maiming someone and putting themselves in danger of retaliation by being a macho hothead.
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  480.  @mauritackett1977  Yes, instead of waiting a moment for the crowd to pass, he decided that it was worth it to possibly kill/maim someone, and also to put himself in danger of retaliation.
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  481.  @NickKautz  It's not a case of "looking for trouble." The groups are usually too big to just take sidewalks, and one has to attract attention. There was no reason for the drivers to feel threatened; they were not the targets of anything. Thus, driving through the crowd was a needlessly violent act. There's the phenomenon of "road rage;" usually wildly out of proportion to the provoking circumstances. Did you ever see "Motor Mania" in driver's ed? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Mania) As for your last assertion, you're asking people to place trust in a system that is stacked against them in a variety of ways, depending on what issue is at hand and who's involved. Spreading information, digitally and otherwise, is of course crucial these days, but it can never be successful on its own (and "slacktivism," like online petitions that organizations send around, are basically worthless). Contacting the offices of one's alleged representatives is not hopeless, but that too only goes so far. "Direct action gets the goods," as the old labor slogan goes. It was true then, and it's true now. Without pressure from below, nothing changes from above. Women can vote and obtain contraception because so many were willing to put their bodies on the line. This country has a very violent labor history, with hundreds of workers being killed in strikes (at the hands of private detectives/security agencies & other company goons) as late as the 1930s. Then you have the life-and-death struggles of LGBT people, and much more. Being quiescent and following the state's proscribed rules for activism is never successful. That's the reason for those stipulations to begin with.
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  482.  @kevinouellette5316  He was driving through a crowd, and when one is being pushed by a car, jumping to one side is extremely difficult inasmuch as it's all one can do to stay on one's feet. That's why they were trying to stop him. It's not up to drivers to enforce laws via violence.
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  483.  @AndisweatherCenter  Or at minimum, vehicular assault.
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  484.  @moonpie2637  I'm not sure who "you people" are. This sort of thing has happened many times before in different settings. They weren't taking to the streets to attack cars & drivers! Some driver starts moving through the crowd, and people try to stop said driver. This car was shoving people in front of it. It's pretty clear.
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  485.  @ThisisKyle  They were crossing. Do you feel the same way about the truckers who clogged the Beltway?
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  486.  Colt'sNation  They were crossing. The light changed. I've been in marches (and events like Bike Party) that sometimes necessitate "corking" intersections for one cycle, so that everyone can pass through. Rather than wait a moment, this hothead decided to drive through the crowd, putting people (including himself) at risk. Is it fine for those truckers to stop traffic on the Beltway?
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  487.  Colt'sNation  After the driver started it.
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  488.  @AB-ou8ve  I would never try and drive through a crowd.
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  489.  Colt'sNation  The driver started the violence. They were crossing the road, and they would have been out of the way shortly.
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  490.  @rhettsalsbury9394  For no reason? I wouldn't blame you. That's not what happened here.
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  491.  @realtruenorth  I understand that, except he was pushing people with his car, and the others were trying to protect them.
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  492.  @realtruenorth  Because the car was shoving people along in front of it. It's all that they could do to stay on their feet; it's no simple matter to just jump aside.
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  493.  @ewaj.6260  Embryos aren't children yet.
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  494.  @ewaj.6260  (Why do people always ask this question?) Obviously, human embryos are humans. I didn't state otherwise. The point is that it's a question about personhood, the characteristics that make killing wrong- sentience, the will to live, biological autonomy, and everything else that's taken away when a person is killed. In a rudimentary but very real way, babies have that. Embryos & fetuses do not and cannot. There's no harm in not being born.
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  495.  @CalikoTube  You're being disingenuous. Also, that's not how question marks work. Also: *its.
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  496.  @CalikoTube  You're not fooling anyone.
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  497.  @johnmarksmithmiller9895  They were crossing. Rather than wait a moment like a reasonable person would, this hothead tried to drive through.
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  498.  Turd Ferguson  Sure he did.
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  499.  @EstrangedSounds  Protests take the streets. They were on the move, and they would be out of the way soon. There is no reason to put people's very lives at risk, not to mention one's own.
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  500.  @EstrangedSounds  Have a little decency. You know what I mean.
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  501.  @EstrangedSounds  One can "do something about it" by not driving into/through a crowd that was on the move anyway. Sometimes situations require "taking it to the street." It happens. Some inconvenience is not worth anyone's life & limb.
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  502.  @EstrangedSounds  There it is. No, this has nothing to do with babies. Embryos aren't babies. They're trying to get him to slow down or stop. Taking the streets in a protest isn't a "facade of power," and in any case it isn't a cause to use potentially deadly force. Nobody did anything with the car until it was endangering people.
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  503.  @EstrangedSounds  If you assault someone and it causes a miscarriage, you might face further charges, because (perhaps among other reasons) it was done without consent. Fetal homicide laws were written with violent third parties in mind.
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  504.  @Komrad_Yuri  True. Marches take the streets; that's how it goes. They were on the move anyway. There was no reason to put anyone's safety at risk.
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  505.  @entp1019  Protests take the streets. Have a little humility.
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  506.  @entp1019  He's trying to drive through a crowd, rather than wait a few moments.
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  507. It's not the poorest people. That's an exaggeration.
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  508. Sadistic troll.
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  509. At 3:39 they make the Calvary/cavalry mistake. Those are two very different things!
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  510. That seems a little harsh.
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  511. Indeed, he was driving through the crowd. He's the one who wasn't peaceful.
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  512.  @Outdoorsguy1212  *you're
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  513. Yes, as a matter of fact.
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  514.  @ashenwalker4622  They did indeed! Where have you been?
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  515.  @ashenwalker4622  And clearly not paying attention.
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  516. Sex, rather.
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  517. And that's what we Anti-fascists have been saying for a hundred years. When the IWW shot it out with the Klan, when our predecessors brawled with the fascists (and the cops who protected them, of course) all over Europe between the World Wars (trying to prevent the second one; this era is when the term "Antifa" was coined), when resistance movements fought back across Europe/Asia/Africa, when the Civil Rights movement in the US featured armed self-defense, when punk rockers and traditional skinheads battled against the Neo-Nazis who got into the skinhead scene, and so on and so on, up to the present day... You can't beat these people by ignoring them, or holding a peace rally on the other side of town, or whatever. They get more confident that way. They have to be stopped, by any means necessary, when they first appear. Anti-Racist Action's Points of Unity, from 1988: 1. We go where they go. 2. We don't rely on cops or the courts. 3. Non-sectarian defense of other anti-fascists. 4. We intend to win! Smash the fash! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzgF5_v8lyA
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  518.  @Joe-bh4vz  Not this again. No, fascism is, and has always been, a branch of the hard right. That's evident in every single thing that such people do, along with what they call themselves!
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  519.  @Joe-bh4vz  That's very ignorant. Virtually every political scientist and historian, along with fascists themselves, know better. Do I have to explain it to you?
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  520.  @Joe-bh4vz  It looks like I do have to explain it to you. Fascists exalt the nation and often "the race." They seek to return to some imagined golden age, to "make [insert name of country] great again." They're viciously opposed to labor organizers, and anything even remotely derived from any flavor of socialism, from Bolshevism to anarchism. They're usually fiercely anti-feminist and advocate strict sex roles. They scapegoat powerless minorities for a country's problems; do I have to name some current examples? This right-wing populism encourages the masses to place the blame on these minorities rather than where it ought to go. I could go on, but I hope that you get the picture.
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  521. "Partner..." We need to use a different term.
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  522. No, he drove into the crowd.
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  523. Designed? What's that supposed to mean? Also, there's no harm in not being born.
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  524. He was already on the attack.
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  525.  @stoneyll  Sure thing!
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  526. He was driving into the crowd. They were trying to stop him.
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  527.  @mark-ish  Along with denying climate change, empowering outright fascists and theocrats, enacting tariffs (so backward), installing reactionary judges, and so much more.
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  528.  @samuelsouza3054  What baby?
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  529.  @samuelsouza3054  Also, no, the vast majority of women who have abortions feel relief, not regret.
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  530.  @samuelsouza3054  There's no harm in not being born. Abortion usually involves embryos, sometimes fetuses, but never babies. There it is again: "easy way out for irresponsible women." You want to punish people for having sex.
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  531.  @Diana-xm1dm  If so, how would you like to punish women who have abortions? You don't have to be too specific. Keep in mind that this would require investigating every miscarriage in the country.
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  532.  @ladyofbast250  Exactly (also: *you're).
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  533.  @samuelsouza3054  Embryos aren't babies.
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  534.  @samuelsouza3054  Yes, of course human embryos and human fetuses are human. Nobody is saying otherwise. The issue is personhood, and that comes later. There is no baby involved. If you want to remove choices from people, then you want to punish them.
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  535.  @samuelsouza3054  Yes, human babies are human. That's not the point. Personhood makes all the difference. The factors/criteria therein constitute why we generally decide that killing is wrong, by our actions or inactions.
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  536.  @samuelsouza3054  Again, species is not the deciding factor. There's no harm in not being born.
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  537.  @samuelsouza3054  Those are not the same thing. If you stop to think about why we usually say that killing is wrong, it becomes easier to understand.
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  538.  @samuelsouza3054  The first clause is true, but your last one is not, as there is no baby involved.
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  539.  @samuelsouza3054  Abortion involves embryos (usually) and fetuses (sometimes), but not babies.
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  540.  @samuelsouza3054  Human? Of course. That's not the deciding factor, personhood is. There's no such thing as "late term abortion," as the phrase "late term" in obstetrics refers to pregnancies that have persisted past the due date. Also, no, fetuses and embryos are not infants yet. That comes later.
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  541.  @samuelsouza3054  No, personhood is not synonymous with humanity. It consists of the characteristics by which we decide that killing is wrong. Ob/gyns do not use the phrase "late-term abortion," and I doubt that PP employees are still saying it. If they are, they should get with the times and stop.
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  542.  @samuelsouza3054  On the contrary, you are lying to yourself. Plugs are pulled every day; people seem to love "justifiable homicide;" you probably have no idea how many embryos are destroyed as part of IVF (an example for you)... all of us, due to our actions or inactions, play a role in a huge number of deaths every day. The same people who most strongly oppose abortion were also the strongest supporters of the war against Iraq. Their beloved Trump vetoed legislation to cut off the Saudi-led war against Yemen that is causing a humanitarian disaster that has killed well over 100,000 people and is threatening millions more. Don't kid yourself. There are criteria that determine whether or not killing really bothers us. Face the facts.
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  543.  @samuelsouza3054  No, embryos & fetuses are not babies, and have neither innocence nor guilt. They lack personhood. There's no harm in not being born. Don't put words in my mouth; I'm referring to people who claim to be pro-life showing a great deal of antipathy towards life- the life of sentient persons, at that. That's why I mentioned Trump. He gained the support of those who claim to be pro-life, and yet his highly lethal actions didn't bother them. I'm pointing out their gross hypocrisy. The gunwalking scandal began under Bush (Operation Wide Receiver), but I certainly don't defend the Obama administration for continuing it. Regarding al-Qaeda and ISIS, you're referring to Syria, and I also don't support the way that the Obama administration (indirectly and directly) supported such people as part of an attempt to overthrow the government in Damascus. (Note that this was the Israeli preference as well.) The point is that Obama never claimed to be "pro-life," so there's not any hypocrisy at hand regarding abortion.
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  544.  @samuelsouza3054  Let's try this again. Abortion is not inhumane (I'm not sure what "is very guilty" means in that sentence), while the lack of access to safe, legal abortion is in fact inhumane. The lethal actions I'm referring to are the kinds of policies, foreign and domestic, that kill a huge number of people and yet the "pro-lifers" don't mind or support. There have been roughly a handful of casualties resulting from pro-choice direct actions, as opposed to a long list of deaths and injuries (some of them permanent) committed by "pro-lifers." When it comes to property destruction, the balance is also not even close.
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  545. It wasn't a case of hostility with a vehicle chosen at random. There's no motive! He was driving through a crowd.
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  546. Not really. Every President for a long time has had meetings with vile dictators, often supporting them. Look at Bush holding hands with the Saudi King.
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  547. There's nothing stupid about the shot.
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  548.  @chiefgitsu  I hope that you're a troll.
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  549. If you're anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, get armed in whatever way is feasible for you. Make an affinity group with people you trust, and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are. Spread the word.
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  550. Clashes with police.
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  551. He was trying to drive into a crowd, so yes they were, and rightly so.
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  552. Besides that, it's not like anyone minds not being born anyway!
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  553.  @jboydayz  Surely you know how the anti-choicers harass patients (and those who escort said patients). It's not hard to find.
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  554.  @jeffwvu4602  Baby?
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  555.  @jj8stin  *you're
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  556.  @Tom-cz9op  If you really think that embryos & fetuses are tantamount to babies, then you wouldn't support rape exceptions. People try to have it both ways.
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  557.  @Coolkc456  Contraception is the key to limiting abortions; that 47% figure primarily comes from human error (due to lack of education, forgetfulness, being under the influence, etc.). Outright contraceptive failure is rare. This is why subsidizing LARCs (Long-Acting-Reversible-Contraceptives [IUDs & implants]) along with accurate sex-ed has cratered the abortion rate in many places- The Contraceptive Choice Project in St. Louis, a program focused on teens in Colorado, Upstream USA in Delaware, etc. The God Squad seem to have a problem with this, however. They want to punish people for having sex.
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  558.  @Tom-cz9op  It's often extremely difficult to get sterilized: "You don't have any/enough kids; you're too young; you'll change your mind; smart people aren't having enough kids; white people aren't having enough kids; what if you meet a billionaire and he wants kids; you're not married; you're married but we need your spouse's consent," and so on. I was lucky; the first urologist I went to treated me like an adult.
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  559.  @Coolkc456  This is off the subject now, but more people should know that combining condoms with withdrawal is nearly foolproof.
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  560.  @georgelenny1694  Brainwaves don't indicate a mind. Not even close, actually.
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  561.  @MirrimBlackfox  Note also that most people who get abortions already have at least one child.
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  562.  @laurastreet7600  You just wouldn't exist. You wouldn't care. Had I been aborted, so what? There's no harm done.
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  563.  @TheGuiltsOfUs  There is no almighty.
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  564.  @JLitt-us4vs  They're a nonprofit.
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  565.  @jboydayz  Oh really? What do you call this (and there's a lot more where this came from, unfortunately)? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF5LPrAz6nA&ab_channel=everysaturdaymorning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcFaGh4HesQ&ab_channel=DemocracyNow%21
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  566.  @westdeuce  Rape is severely underreported, so no, the number is much higher than that. Do you think that every woman who gets an abortion fills out a questionnaire regarding their reasons? In any case, it doesn't matter. Said reasons are nobody else's business.
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  567.  @westdeuce  It's not required to give a reason in, for example, Connecticut: https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/AG/Press_Releases/2022/SG-Post-Dobbs-Memo-101122.pdf Why the hell do you think that USA Today is leftist!?? It's a major corporate capitalist news publication! It's not Crimethinc or Anarcho-Syndicalist Review or Democratic Left (no, not a reference to the party!) or whatever. Thanks to the Hyde Amendment, unfortunately no public funding can go towards abortion, although an eye-popping amount can go towards war, but never mind. Yes, I have a job. PP provides a great deal of healthcare, including contraception and sex-ed that reduce the abortion rate, not to mention various other things that save us all money in the big picture.
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  568.  @Coolkc456  Exactly. She might have been lying to you, or he was, or he "stealthed" her, or perhaps it broke, etc.
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  569.  @Coolkc456  Indeed. Exactly.
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  570.  @georgelenny1694  You just entered crackpot territory.
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  571. @Green Blue And? What's the harm in not being born?
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  572. @Green Blue You're only seeing it from your own vantage point. There's no harm for anyone in not being born; they just wouldn't exist. (In fact, there's a convincing case that not existing is the ideal outcome.) The right to choose whether or not to continue a pregnancy does not hinge on whether or not their hypothetical child will be a great friend someday.
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  573. @Green Blue Embryos aren't babies. The issue isn't one of life, but of personhood, the characteristics that make killing wrong. Embryos & fetuses don't have that. No one is harmed by not being born.
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  574. @Green Blue It's a misnomer. Fetuses haven't sprung off.
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  575.  @shanenguyen3867  So what?
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  576. @Green Blue They haven't sprung off from the host organism, which is what the phrase means (I think), but that's completely beside the point. Life? Yes. Personhood (the characteristics that make killing wrong)? No. That comes later, and it makes all the difference.
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  577. @Green Blue People always mention comas. No, that's very different. For one thing, I might be wrong about this, but while doctors can assess the likelihood of a comatose patient emerging from their coma (and what condition they will be in when they do awaken), I don't think that doctors can predict when a coma might end. For another, comatose people already had personhood, obviously, and the hope is that they'll regain it. It's case-by-case, hence the decisions to continue life support or not.
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  578. @Green Blue That seems to describe the cases when the plug is pulled.
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  579. @Green Blue If someone has no (or virtually no) chance of awakening, or if a hypothetical awakening would leave them in a state that isn't much better, that's the kind of case in which life support is discontinued. They aren't going to regain consciousness, sentience, the will to live, and everything else that is taken away when a person is killed.
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  580. I'm no fan of CNN either (is anyone?), but this is another case of vehicular assault.
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  581.  @johnolpenda9803  They weren't barricading. They were crossing, and rather than wait a moment for them to be out of the way, he drove through the crowd. It was completely unnecessary.
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  582.  @johnolpenda9803  This video? I've read the reports about the whole incident.
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  583. That town should disturb you.
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  584. It's apt.
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  585. He was already on the attack.
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  586.  @user-gu7dn9gr8f  Pay closer attention.
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  587.  @merchandisingparadise9440  Cisgender.
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  588. Don't talk to the police without an attorney!
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  589.  @JonBongJovi-i7c  Ok, but there's no connection between vaccines and autism.
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  590.  @Itwasobvious-i9p  What leftists?
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  591. Don Lemon is a man, and if the other two happen to be sterile, what difference does that make?
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  592.  @wokechoke6845  No, he's been clear.
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  593.  @bombaybeach208  It's too late. However, look up the "Land Back" movement. They've done some great things, and no, it doesn't involve non-Indigenous people relocating.
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  594. Why the scare quotes?
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  595. @Megaman-X That was an early report, and it was indeed an error. Today, lots of people are calling out Carlson's blatant gaslighting, not just CNN!
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  596.  @quesadilla9957  You're basically correct, but reliability becomes effectively 100% is one uses more than one form of contraception (that includes condoms w/withdrawal). Sterilization is virtually foolproof, anecdotes notwithstanding. Also, some people don't bone, or don't bone vaginally, but that's off the subject.
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  597. Say what you want about Pfizer, but you don't know what you're talking about.
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  598. 3:00 It's "whom," not "who!" Also, few things are worse for economies than tariffs, and also, reproductive rights are an economic issue.
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  599. The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured contributed to his strokes.
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  600. Life, yes. Personhood, no.
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  601. The drivers do play victims, saying they were afraid after intentionally driving into a crowd. James Fields tried that.
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  602. Pilate
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  603. One has to take the streets! That's how marches happen. Have a little patience.
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  604. He drove into them.
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  605. Gathering and presenting avalanches of evidence is pretty important.
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  606. Marches take the streets. It's how things get done. Do you support James Fields?
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  607. He was driving into them. Would you be fine with me driving into the March for Life?
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  608. There's no harm in not being born.
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  609. Apples and oranges. Getting an abortion harms no one, while refusing to get vaccinated (there is no reason not to) puts others at risk, wastes medical resources, and prolongs pandemics/epidemics. I don't mind if you want to win the Herman Cain Award, but there's more at stake than that.
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  610. Car accidents had not previously been eliminated. Measles had.
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  611.  @Jeffrey-m9g  True, but the dangers of driving were not nearly eliminated via vaccination.
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  612.  @catkin-z8g  What are you trying to say? Are you claiming that measles was not nearly eliminated thanks to vaccination?
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  613. Keep in mind that being disarmed in the face of all the MAGAts she's talking about is a very bad idea!
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  614. Ivanka, maybe Winona Ryder can get away with that sort of voice, but you are no Winona Ryder. Stop the vocal fry.
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  615. Isn't it pronounced "Par-lay"?
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  616. Sod off.
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  617.  @woofgh3140  No.
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  618. You're a troll (I hope).
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  619. *you're
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  620. It's not either/or. Inflation is a global problem, but a coup attempt is a particularly American problem.
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  621.  @terriblesilence4935  What are you trying to say? I notice that I should have written "this coup attempt."
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  622.  @JeffreySmith7777  Cite?
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  623.  @JeffreySmith7777  Even if the child was a migrant, asking for asylum is legal, and besides, children don't typically decide whether or not to migrate.
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  624.  @GabrielCapo24  *you're
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  625. He drove into a crowd, and they were trying to get him to stop.
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  626. And that's bootlicking sadism.
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  627. Marches take the streets, and he was driving into them.
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  628. Herman Cain Award!
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  629. No, he drove into the crowd.
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  630. No one was playing.
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  631. Hey, Internet Tough Guy, he was already driving into the crowd.
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  632. The driver was the attacker.
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  633.  @teopalafox  How so?
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  634.  @teopalafox  That's your opinion. In this case, don't have an abortion.
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  635.  @teopalafox  Indeed, that's the point, abortion is a morally neutral act, unlike the others that you mention. There's no harm in not being born.
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  636.  @teopalafox  Indeed, but there's no murder involved.
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  637.  @teopalafox  Embryos & fetuses aren't children.
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  638.  @teopalafox  I do know what it means in Latin. Also, "sex" is Latin for "six." So what?
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  639.  @teopalafox  Yes, as I said, I know that's what it means in Latin. The thing is, it's different in English, as fetuses haven't sprung off. And yes, of course human fetuses are human. Nobody is claiming otherwise.
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  640. It's a worldwide problem, and has little to do with Biden.
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  641. If you're standing anywhere to the left of, say, Susan Collins, you had better be armed already. If you aren't, do it! It can include non-gun options; whatever works. Organize (if only by spreading the word and having a trusted affinity group) and prepare. The fascists and theocrats are.
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  642. He was driving through the crowd. Don't blame the victim. What do you think about James Fields?
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  643.  @jamesbrock4291  You haven't been paying attention.
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  644. Embryos aren't children anyway.
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  645. I was in a protest last night. We took the streets, that's what it's all about. We got out of the way for an ambulance.
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  646.  @gandalfstormcrow8439  That has nothing to do with it. Even if it had anything to do with undocumented people, that's all the more reason to get vaccinated.
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  647.  @cujo0750  What solution would that be? Biden didn't appoint anyone who was anti-vaccine.
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  648. They didn't.
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  649. The First Amendment is the permit. Take the streets! He was already driving into the crowd.
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  650. At least they're being consistent. If embryo = baby (the vast majority of abortions involve embryos, not even fetuses), then IVF is surely much worse than abortion, considering the vast numbers of embryos destroyed in the process. Some anti-choice activists oppose IVF, but most don't. It leads me to believe that the goal is not to save the embryos, but to punish people for having sex.
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  651. The coroner made it clear that the attacks Sicknick endured contributed to his strokes.
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  652. I'm pro-choice and I shoot back! You ought to be armed against these people! I am.
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  653. False equivalence. Also, you don't know a thing about the political leanings of women obtaining abortions. Misoprostol is already commonly used on its own, thanks to all the TRAP laws that have made abortion access so difficult in many places.
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  654.  @Fieldsherbert  That's not a rebuttal. Trump committed multiple serious crimes all over the country. This is the least significant of the cases. At least one of the others (the big one in DC, about trying repeatedly to overthrow the election) should be underway already, but now the SCOTUS is trying to decide whether or not a President can be a king. Two of the justices were involved in (Thomas's wife) or were sympathetic to (Alito) those crimes!
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  655.  @electricblue2920  Fetuses haven't sprung off. They aren't children yet. In fact, abortion usually involves embryos, not even children.
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  656.  @electricblue2920  Embryos & fetuses have neither innocence nor guilt. They are capable of neither. There's no harm in not being born.
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  657.  @electricblue2920  No, innocence is impossible for embryos/fetuses to have. There's no harm in not being born.
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  658.  @electricblue2920  The idea of punishment is relevant, but never mind that now. Embryos don't have innocence because they don't even have minds. They can't do anything at all; they can't exist outside of their quasi-parasitic state. They aren't people yet. The very ideas of innocence and guilt don't apply to them. Those concepts imply the capacity to do things, or not do them. All of the rights lie with the pregnant woman.
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  659.  @electricblue2920  You missed the point again. Anyway, there is no murder involved. The best forms of contraception are often either out-of-reach or poorly understood (including by doctors, many of whom don't realize that IUDs can be used by nulliparous women). However, as we have seen again and again, comprehensive sex-ed (not absti-nonsense) considerably reduces unplanned pregnancy rates, and when it's planned with subsidized LARCs, the abortion rate collapses. Most people who claim to oppose abortion are not big supporters of that sort of thing, however.
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  660.  @MaryJones-rx3my  That's not true. Only about five percent of woman who have abortions regret it. Most express relief.
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  661. Ok, but that's not what political anarchism means! Look it up!
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  662. They talk about that in this very video!
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  663. No, the marchers were pro-choice, and once you're being nudged by a vehicle, it's really difficult to jump to the side.
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  664.  @MRJ_1975  Sicknick died the following day, and the coroner made it clear that all that transpired contributed to the strokes. Four other cops involved in the battle later took their own lives, and these suicides are of course directly linked to the coup attempt.
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  665. Ok, but he drove into the crowd first.
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  666. Most of the police (more than I would have imagined) fought bravely, but of course there were MAGAts among them.
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  667. Hardy fucking har.
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  668.  @davidm6293  Embryos aren't babies, there's no harm in not being born, rape exceptions make no sense, abortion is one way to be responsible, and you clearly have problems with the sex lives of others.
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  669.  @mikerada2773  Childbirth is much more dangerous than abortion. Also, embryos have neither innocence nor guilt. They are capable of neither.
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  670.  @Kudz_LastmanStanding  It isn't murder. Do you realize that it would be necessary to investigate every miscarriage in the country, in the hopes of finding out which ones were deliberately induced? You're talking about incarcerating 1/4 of American women.
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  671. Not to mention Irgun and Lehi killing British peacekeepers to create a power vacuum, just a couple of years after the same British troops did so much to defeat Hitler's regime.
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  672. No, and there's no reason to indulge that conspiracy theory.
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  673. Stop.
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  674. Marches take the streets. It's how things happen.
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  675. Nobody is playing.
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  676.  @daveharvey5764  Did you support James Fields?
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  677.  @daveharvey5764  Fine, but the driver was on the attack, not them. It was a march, and they were passing through. That's how it works. They weren't attacking vehicles. That makes no sense. Please tell me that you're not saying that your last sentence applies to Fields.
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  678.  @daveharvey5764  The sawhorse barricade had already been removed (by unknown persons, but not Fields), and the crowd was moving and/or milling around. They only had permits to gather in parks (which they technically didn't need). There were no permits for marches and such, but even the Charlottesville authorities seemed to understand that sort of thing just happens, and it's not the end of the world. Yes, they were inconveniencing a couple of other drivers, but they would have been out of the way in a short time. These drivers didn't try to drive (even slowly) through the crowd. There was no reason to do so. Fields hit one of these vehicles, which flew forward and hit another, hurting the passengers and striking more protesters. I know people (trained street medics) who tried to save Heather Heyer's life until the cops made them stop (I'm not sure that they could have saved her, but that's beside the point), and I know others who were mere feet away from the cars. In a lot of countries, it's understood that spontaneous, wildcat demonstrations are going to hit the streets, whether the state gives its approval or not. Playing by the state's petty rules is not going to effect change (trivia time: this is the one way that "effect" can be a verb). That's how the rulers want it. Other drivers let the march pass by. This man could have done the same, rather than being a hothead. It's not worth possibly killing and/or maiming anyone else, and, for that matter, putting him and his passenger(s) in danger as well, should anyone retaliate.
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  679.  @daveharvey5764  He could go where he wanted after a few moments. He didn't have to try and drive through people. When he did, they tried to stop him. This is not a case of petty opinions, this is a major loss of human rights, a huge step backwards, and a potential humanitarian catastrophe.
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  680. Don't call someone "stupid" when you make the "your/you're" mistake three words later.
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  681. What are you trying to say?
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  682. These aren't 911 calls.
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  683. could *have
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  684. We need to stop saying "partner" in this context. It's so unromantic and businesslike.
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  685. Sod off. He was driving into the crowd.
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  686. This is ridiculous.
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  687.  @MyName-pl7zn  That's not quite how it happened. One did excite himself into a stroke, another into a heart attack, one overdosed on amphetamines as she went into action, and of course Babbitt got shot. Among the arrestees, one or two have died by suicide, and two or more of the others have died for miscellaneous reasons.
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  688.  @MyName-pl7zn  Was that ever confirmed?
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  689.  @jaygibson5057  Who wasn't? Indeed, the Trumpist who died of a heart attack did not zap his own scrotum. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
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  690.  @jaygibson5057  Most of the evidence, and it is enormous, is coming from videos the attackers took of themselves and others, along with lots and lots of incriminating social media posts, texts, etc. There's also video and other evidence from other sources. Yes, some pinging was involved, but what of it?
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  691. Firing full-auto isn't very useful, right? Plus, there's that whole "well-regulated militia" bit, along with certain changes to the world since the 18th century.
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  692. Silly.
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  693.  @mhall801  He lied on Trump's behalf, and went to prison. He knows what will happen if he perjures himself again.
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  694. Worse than that, it was part of a coup attempt! You've seen the texts to Mark Meadows that were just revealed, right?
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  695. Worse than that, it was the culmination of a months-long coup attempt!
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  696.  @JohnDoe-hc6sf  What the hell are you talking about?
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  697. The driver had already driven into the crowd.
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  698. *you're
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  699.  @nou7833  That's true, because the car is shoving people in front of it, and they're trying to get it to stop.
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  700.  @nou7833  Not necessarily, and in any case they start by imploring the driver to stop so that the people being pushed can get out of the way.
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  701. @UCWnNnC-sNXUIWAn9bsxAyTA Her hands are on the hood as she's furiously backing up. The crowd was not walking around attacking cars & those in them. They would have passed by in moments.
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  702.  @DoomsdayHustle  Yeah, they're being pushed by the car, and are thus pushing against it as they try to stay on their feet. I'm not sure what the rest of your comment means. Nobody's gaslighting you.
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  703.  @DoomsdayHustle  If you're being shunted along by a vehicle, it's all you can do to stay on your feet. Moving aside is next to impossible. You'll stick your hands out instinctively, and as a gesture for the driver to stop.
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  704.  @jesussaves8549  There it is. You want to punish people for having sex. Also, by "real contraception" you are referring to IUDs & implants, right? LARCs? That drastically lowers abortion rates.
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  705.  @guardtheham1233  How so? What am I getting wrong? Please be specific.
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  706.  @guardtheham1233  I don't believe in fairy tales, there is no murder involved, and embryos & fetuses have neither innocence nor guilt. There's no harm in not being born.
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