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@raydematio7585 You asked for it. Look at what the US did to Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Honduras, Iran, the DR, Haiti, Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Indonesia, Zaire/Congo, Greece, Cambodia/Laos/Vietnam, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, the Philippines, Korea (you know about the bombing at the end, right?), and on a smaller scale Panama, Yugoslavia, Grenada, and probably others I can't remember right now. This is glossed over so greatly in the US. Be sure to look at deaths per-capita, and the economic damage that lasts to this day (which helps to explain why so many people are pushed into the migrant stream, but that's a separate topic).
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Once again: This behavior causes a lot of psychological harm to minors, no matter the sexes involved: man-girl, man-boy, woman-girl, and yes, woman-boy. Men who've gone through this usually have long-lasting problems with forming healthy relationships, consent, trust, boundaries, etc. If you are one of those people who think that this sort of thing is so great, "nice," or anything like that, do you think that it should be legal?
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This mini-documentary leaves out perhaps the most important part of the story, and one that greatly explains the attitudes of both the US and Turkish governments, among others. The Rojavan revolution is heavily influenced by anarchism, or at least by libertarian socialism more broadly. The means of production (etc.) are to a great degree in the hands of workers' councils, neither capitalist nor statist. Along with the secularism and feminism, this is a really extraordinary development in the world, akin to Revolutionary Spain/Catalonia in that country's civil war, The Ukraine Free Territory during the Russian Civil War, the Paris Commune, Chiapas today, and so many more.
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@petem.3719 Nicolae and Elena Ceasescu went on trial after their government fell. It was a quick trial, just to make sure that the new government did their due diligence and everything was by-the-book. After that, those two were lined up against a wall and shot, and then Romania abolished the death penalty.
The Total Fertility Rate (births-per-woman, which is different from the birth rate, but that's off the subject) leapt up after the law was put in place, hence the notorious orphanages, but it came back down after a few years, as people found ways to get around it. Still, the situation was a mess. Have you ever seen the movie "4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days"? If you forget the title, search for "Romanian abortion movie." It's set in the 80s, when the regime was still in power (albeit in trouble), and it is riveting, about the quest for an illegal abortion, and the need to conceal it.
Watch it!
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@aaronwilson8403 I do know said history. Abortion was only criminalized in the late-19th century, due to the efforts of people like Anthony Comstock, it also had a lot to do with the male medical establishment curtailing the powers of midwives.
Yes indeed, Sanger was a eugenicist. Family-planning advocates of that era often were. Thankfully, her embrace of eugenics didn't involve things like mandated euthanasia, and (this is important) she was no bigot, contrary to a pernicious lie. Edwin Black, author of War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race, makes this clear. As you might expect, he's a very harsh critic of hers, but he stresses that she was not bigoted, and the various things used to support the claim that she was are either out of context or complete fabrications.
Educate myself? On the contrary, educate yourself.
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@danijoy7665 Less human? No, obviously, human embryos, fetuses, babies, etc. are all human, to the same degree. There are no degrees of species. It's a matter of personhood, not species (nor life, for that matter). As for when the baby stage begins, that's at delivery. As for the ethical question of how late is too late for abortion, I can't put an exact time on it, but I know that it's long after virtually all (or entirely all) abortions happen.
As for the DNA, I don't know why people bring that up all the time. Embryos and fetuses are in a quasi-parasitic relationship with the host organism, the pregnant woman. See what I wrote earlier about biological autonomy. Someone can presumably be found to take care of a newborn, but pregnancy is different. The decision goes to the woman and the relevant medical personnel.
Nobody minds not being born. It's impossible to know or care or mind. As for your final paragraph, having an abortion is one option for what you call "consequences." Nobody says that that's the only choice, and I'm not sure what gives you that idea.
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@impishrebel5969 Eisenhower's administration made its own decision to support the French Empire. There were almost no US personnel involved in-country, and there was no "lol I'm out;" the French forces were defeated at Dien Bien Phu. The US spent the next nine years (with very few troops in Vietnam, this is in-between the French- and US-dominated phases of the war) installing a gangster regime in Saigon, supporting it through years of futile war, and otherwise tried to prevent the people of Vietnam from working out their own problems in the only likely way. Recall that a young Ho Chi Minh arrived at the Versailles peace talks in 1919 as a representative of the Vietnamese, but was not allowed to enter.
Skipping over the ghastly cruelty of the war itself, in the Fall of Saigon the US evacuated many collaborators (hardly "democratic") and a great many more civilians, and rightly so. It was a rare example of human decency. As for tossing helicopters over the side, that's not really a huge sacrifice in context, and also, there were no battleships in service at that time.
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@tommyfred6180 I know, and I hate it, but let's break that down a bit. Legal gun owners commit very little of that crime, although domestic violence, accidents, and suicides are indeed a big part of the problem! With that said, most of the shootings are the work of a lumpenproletariat criminal class (often gang members) involved in the drug trade and a few other things, like a ridiculous macho obsession with "respect." There are a few lessons here:
1. Prohibition doesn't work. I hate drugs, but the Drug War is even worse. 2. That leads into the "Prison-Industrial Complex," which also makes the problem worse, since there are too many people being sent to prison in the first place, and too little focus on rehabilitation, which leads to prisons often making people more dangerous when they get out. Now, there's one more big one...
3. Lead! This is a factor all over the world. The great rise in crime that began in the mid-20th century has been traced to the generations exposed to huge amounts of lead from gasoline, along with paint and various other parts of the environment. Lead lowers IQs and greatly weakens impulse control, and it's a huge cause of crime. Getting lead out of gasoline, and preventing its use in new buildings, correlates very strongly with the Great Crime Decline that began in the 1990s. Unfortunately, the practice of "redlining" (an insidious form of housing discrimination, usually on racist grounds) left a huge number of Black families in substandard housing (with no way to build generational wealth) with considerable lead contamination. There are longstanding efforts to remove lead, end de facto redlining, and move people out of contaminated buildings, but the damage is still being done. While contaminated water is less of a problem, it's still making things worse, and there's racism and classism there too (see Flint, Michigan).
As a leftist gun owner, I support the right to bear arms. Regarding gun crime, there's no way to get guns away from the US population, and there are other ways to address the problem anyway.
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@kimbercustompro1911 Sure. A coup attempt is an attempt to topple a government by extra-legal means, with or without violence. There's also the phenomenon of a "self-coup" or "auto-coup," in which a sitting government essentially does the same thing to the opposition, in order to remain in power. On January 6th, the attackers attempted to prevent the certification of (and indeed overturn) a legitimate election, which would have theoretically allowed Trump to remain in power indefinitely. The attackers came very close to lynching lawmakers & other personnel (no, this does not need to involve hanging; that's a common misconception), which would have sharply worsened the ensuing Constitutional crisis. Serious people do not dispute that; it's clearly demonstrated by primary sources, along with the words and actions by many of the attackers demonstrating their planning ahead of time, and the many others who began to cooperate with said plans on the spot.
I'm not sure why you stress successful attempts. It's the principle of the thing. The attempt that we're talking about could almost certainly not have succeeded in the medium term, based on what we observed that day. Most of the police fought bravely, while others seemed to collaborate with the attackers; I'm actually surprised by the former. The unarmored police in the hallway outside the House Chamber had their pistols drawn and were ready to use them, as one did.
With that said, note that some of the attackers have been busted with firearms, not to mention all of their abundant melee weapons & stolen shields. Gossip from the Pentagon is that they were tired of Trump's actions, and they swear an oath to the Constitution, not to any particular administration. Mayor Bowser hates Trump and could have called upon many more police; note also that the police from Arlington & Alexandria VA were very uncomfortable with their role in helping with Trump's forceful clearing of Lafayette Plaza to hold that bizarre photo op. Besides all of that, Trump is very unpopular in the District and in the closest suburbs; people seem to forget that many liberals own firearms, and genuine leftists own many, many more!
So, as I wrote, it's the principle of the thing. You wanted similar examples, so here: Bolivia's 1946 coup was the work of a mob. Germany saw several coup attempts by private citizen militant groups in the years between the World Wars; beginning with the Spartacist League on the left in 1919, and continuing on the right with Freikorps and allied groups trying the same thing the following year, and of course the Nazis' Beer Hall Putsch in 1923. Ten years later, Chancellor Hitler's self-coup gave him absolute power. Mussolini's Blackshirts were successful in 1922, and a new generation of the Italian far-right tried the same thing in 1970. There was the attempt by the PLO in Jordan in 1970, and, amazingly, UK suffragists were planning a coup in 1913!
There are other examples, but you get the idea. This is a much bigger deal than run-of-the-mill rioting.
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I'm sorry that you lost your friend. I've seen how devastating it can be. I was graduated from PSHS in 2000. Later on, in college, I wrote a paper dealing with the infamous Plano suicide wave of the early 1980s. Those tragedies were definitely on the minds of most of the adults in those days. There were two suicides in the 1998-1999 year. One was a student named Luke, who had been a year ahead of me at the same schools all the way back (I think) to elementary. The other was my guidance counselor, Ms. Grabow. I loosely knew Luke, knew a bunch of his friends more closely, and had one meeting (not a good one, for unrelated reasons, shortly before her death) with Ms. Grabow.
I don't know if either one has a plaque in the memorial garden, but I do have an acquaintance honored there. Morgan Harper, taken by cancer in 1999, gave her name to the Character Award the band gives out every year.
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Yes, they can. Minors can't give consent. Just a few minutes into the video, the guest discusses how much psychological harm this causes. Boys who go through this often have longstanding problems forming healthy relationships, boundaries, consent, trust, etc. They get older, see children of the age they were when it happened, and it's even more disturbing. This is a terrible thing. If you think that it's so great, do you think that it should be legal? Also, even if he was at the age of consent, there's the power difference to think about.
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@podfuk You really don't know what you're talking about. It's not just what some political scientist told me, I'm referring to the scholarly definitions used for centuries. You don't know what right-wing policies mean. The term comes from the French National Assembly, in which the monarchists sat on the right side of the chamber. Different elements sat to the left, with those most opposed to monarchy & the Catholic Church (and thus most in favor of workers, peasants, women, etc.) at the farthest left.
Fascists everywhere want to get back to an idealized past, making their countries great again, the way things supposedly were before "those people" ruined everything. There's nothing "small government" about the right; that should be clear by simply observing their words and deeds. Regarding the right to bear arms, note that the Nazis actually expanded gun rights for the majority of the German population.
Also, your last sentence makes little to no sense.
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I know the reference, but no, this isn't nice at all. This behavior usually causes longstanding problems with forming healthy relationships, trust, consent, boundaries, etc. If you think otherwise, ask yourself if it should be legal. It's the same for any combination of the sexes: Woman-boy, woman-girl, man-boy, man-girl.
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@dassnek4728 (Republicans don't like small government at all, hence awful things like tariffs, but never mind.) California is partly a victim of its own success, partly a victim of NIMBYism, and partly a victim of neoliberalism in general. The demand to live there is so high, and the supply so low, that prices are outrageous. Attempts to remedy this are stymied by NIMBYs, but of course there's only so much that a neoliberal capitalist party like the Democrats is willing to do.
California is one of the world's biggest economies, and it still sends more in tax money to DC than it gets in return. In other words, it subsidizes the Red States.
Speaking of many of those states/areas, you do know what a mess Kentucky is, not to mention most of the
Deep South? Rural America (largely Republican) is awash in meth, opioids, suicide, and the like. Plus, those California exiles are also heading to places like Oregon, which are Democratic-dominated, and the Texas destinations are usually places like Austin and the other cities (although of course Hellburbia is GOP-dominated).
Thus, you can see the failings of neoliberal capitalism, manifested in different ways by different parties.
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@scotts1356 The peak for crime rates in the US (and the western world in general), particularly violent crime, was around 1990. Crime rates have, for the most part, been declining ever since. About a decade ago, the murder rate was at a 100-year low. An upswing in homicide began during the pandemic, but the rates are still well below the peak.
There are many explanations for this, with removal of lead from gasoline (among other things) playing a big part in it. That's just one factor, but it's very compelling. See Kevin Drum's work in Mother Jones, articles published by The Economist, Brookings Institution, and so on. The 24-hour news cycle, and stuff like this on YouTube, warps people's perceptions and contributes to the culture of fear.
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@marcschaeffer1584 Free speech refers to constraints on the government's ability to restrict speech or punish someone for engaging in particular speech. Congress shall make no law. I agree with that. This does not mean that any of us have any obligation to give any platform of any kind to dangerous oppressors. The ARA veterans you just listened to knew that intuitively; as they mentioned, free speech per se never occurred to them, as they feared for their lives!
It was the same thing between the wars, and not just in Germany & Italy. Besides those examples, I always mention Oswald Mosley. His British Union of Fascists wasn't defeated by open debate, nor by peace rallies in a park on the other side of town. No, the BUF creeps were smashed in the streets, by a broad spectrum of Londoners who weren't going to look away. Of course, most of the fighting involved counter-protesters and the police (as usual), but the point is that the BUF realized that they were not getting anywhere without a fight. They could have never have taken power, but can you imagine Mosley's acolytes in Parliament, and in the governments of major industrial cities? He remained an irritant in British politics for the rest of his life, and his successors restarted the violent fascist movements that continue until this day (with Antifa opposing them), but the point is that when it mattered the most, people didn't decide that they should just ignore those goons, or respect their "free speech."
Hitler openly admitted that the same thing could have happened to the Nazis in their early days. There's an ARA sticker/poster that shows a hand ripping weeds out of the ground; said weeds have swastikas at their tips. The caption reads "Yank 'em up before they take root!"
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India has come a long way, but you're exaggerating.
Other commenters are placing blame on the British Empire, which is correct, but of course a lot of the blame can also go to India's early governments, for things like the "License Raj," which helped to cause the "Hindu Rate of Growth" for decades. Nehru and company were understandably suspicious of the outside world, but they ended up hamstringing India's growth with so much red tape and paperwork, part of a naive quest for self-sufficiency, it was next to impossible to get anything done. They didn't even build a socialist state, either- a decentralized India, inspired by Yugoslavia's impressive "market socialism," could have achieved great things much sooner.
Let's not forget other factors, like the illegal but persistent caste system, fierce patriarchy, etc. Most of India's different ethnic and religious groups get along pretty well; there's very little violence per capita, and that should be a lesson for a lot of other countries! Of course, when clashes do occur, it's really, really bad- see the 2002 riots.
With all of that said, there have also been serious problems from opening up the economy; a lot of farmers can't make ends meet; some of the companies that have invested in India have done horrible things (think of the beverage companies taking all the water), etc.
India has not had a famine since the 50s, and has grown a food surplus for a long time, but hunger is still ubiquitous (of course, we have hunger here in the US!). Poverty has dropped by a huge amount, but there are still slums, shantytowns, open sewers, and dirt-poor villages all over the place. India's once-huge total fertility rate (births-per-woman) has dropped like a brick, but the pressures of a huge population won't go away tomorrow or next year.
So yeah, this video is very impressive, among many other achievements, but I think that everyone should keep the right perspective. You know, a healthy relationship with Pakistan would lower poverty rates in both countries by a lot...
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@tj2484 Not this again... sigh. Ok, you asked for it. You're referring to slavery. Slaves obviously had personhood. It consists of the characteristics that make killing wrong: sentience, the will to live, biological autonomy, and everything else that is taken away when a person is killed. In a rudimentary way, babies have that. Embryos & fetuses do not and cannot.
Now, regarding the Civil War, and civil rights- In the decades after the war, things began to change, and partway into the 20th Century it was clear that civil rights were more of a regional thing than a partisan matter. Northern Democrats like JFK/RFK joined northern Republicans in supporting civil rights, while southern Democrats (Dixiecrats, with LBJ being a big exception) and the few southern Republicans in opposing it. After the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, the Dixiecrats were incensed and felt betrayed. Nixon & company embarked on the "Southern Strategy" (yes. Lee Atwater and Ken Mehlman openly admitted it) to win over southern Democratic voters.
Most of the Dixiecrats remained in the party, with Strom Thurmond as a major exception, but they voted more and more with the Republicans, and as they retired/died they were replaced by Republicans elected by the same voters. That brings us to today, where Republicans are the ones defending symbols honoring the treasonous & evil Confederate regime, to the point of parading the regime's battle flag inside the Capitol.
This is not controversial.
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Re: Pence, first, you're committing the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. Aren't there non-Christian conservatives? Yes, if one's religion tells you to have a problem with people because of who they are (and yes, one's sexual orientation is a major part of who one is), then yes, it is wrong. Pence also has gone much further than that; note that, among other things, he has never apologized for endorsing the incredibly destructive nonsense of "conversion therapy." This is totally unacceptable.
As for Trump, you may not like the news organizations I'm citing here, and I may not either, but there are links to everything. It's all sourced and cited. Note that just one of these racist incidents (like the bit about Judge Curiel) should be enough to disqualify him. Here you are: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html
It's not all bad, but most of it is, and any is too much: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/every-moment-donald-trumps-long-complicated-history-race
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/12/racism-and-donald-trump-a-common-thread-throughout-his-career-and-life
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@kimbercustompro1911 Yes, I have watched the footage, lots of it, and the attackers breached several doors and windows, opened others from the inside, and brutally tried to force their way into another (the infamous clash at the tunnel). I don't smoke meth, in fact I'm straight-edge. The footage is awash in brutal hand-to-hand combat, and I am a little concerned that I have to tell you this. Over 600 have been arrested, and most of those were released to attend future court dates. Of those who remain in custody, they have indeed been charged (why do you think that they haven't??), and are going through the legal process (with some already pleading guilty). The method of the coup attempt does have precedents, and your last sentence is projection, or at least just a case of you not knowing what you're talking about.
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It's dysfunctional- racist, among other things! There was a huge rise in crime in the 20th Century (this happened in many countries at that time), partly because of drug prohibition, but the biggest culprit was lead in gasoline, paint, household appliances, etc. When children are exposed to lead, it can harm their brains, lowering IQs and greatly weakening impulse control. By the time that crime peaked in the early 1990s and started to decline, the response to the crime wave (a lot of "tough on crime" policies that got a huge number of people imprisoned for minor offenses, privatized prisons that have an incentive to fill their cells, etc.) were well-entrenched, and very difficult to get rid of.
I'm not sure if that's what you were thinking of, but that's a big part of our so-called "justice" system's problems.
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@MA-mh1vs Regarding your first paragraph, you've seen what's come out (and what was never hidden) since the arrest of Stewart Rhodes, right? Now, regarding your second- Speaking of hating democracy, this attack on the Capitol was an attempt to overturn the results of an election. It was part of a bevy of efforts (starting with things like Trump's phone call to the GA Secretary of State, asking for some votes to be "found") to prevent the democratic process from continuing. A peaceful transfer of power, following a completely fair election, is a definitive part of that process. Please tell me that you saw the recent news about Republicans in several states sending fraudulent lists of electors to the National Archives. By the way, these anti-democratic efforts continue to the present day, with attempts to take over election commissions, outrageous gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc.
Meanwhile, there is nobody with this "socialist mentality" you describe in a position of power in the US. I wish! You're projecting quite badly; the economy is damaged due to over 40 years of neoliberal capitalism. Yes, the legal system is worse than useless; it's malicious, classist, racist, etc., and it's getting worse. Your enemies aren't the ones promoting racism, they're fighting against it, so I don't know where you get that idea. Finally, rights are most definitely under attack, like voting rights, women's reproductive rights, workers' rights, and much more. What rights are you so worried about losing? If you're referring to gun rights, don't blame socialists, they/we have always known the importance of being armed. Karl Marx was very explicit on this point, as were his rivals elsewhere on the left, especially the anarchists.
You're seeing the world in mirror image. Speaking of "the socialist country of their choice," do you know about the American leftists who have been going to Rojava as part of the YPG International (and sometimes the International Freedom Battalions) to defend the revolution in battle against ISIS & the fascist Turkish regime? Some of those flights have indeed been one way, as some of these volunteers have died there.
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@logician3641 Asking for asylum is legal, and it's not required to do so at a port of entry. Under Biden, migrants die in the desert. Under Abbott, they die in the river. If more visas were available for lower-skilled workers, and if the US didn't support authoritarian rightists around the world, this would be a small issue. Also, note that the US, Canada, and Spain are opening centers in some places, where asylum-seekers can apply without making a journey. However, when people need to flee for their lives ASAP, that won't help!
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Spanish people? From Spain? Anyway: Asking for asylum is legal, and it's not required to do so at a port of entry. Under Biden, migrants die in the desert. Under Abbott, they die in the river. If more visas were available for lower-skilled workers, and if the US didn't support authoritarian rightists around the world, this would be a small issue. Also, note that the US, Canada, and Spain are opening centers in some places, where asylum-seekers can apply without making a journey. However, when people need to flee for their lives ASAP, that won't help!
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@ruaraidh74 You're missing the point. Most of the anti-choicers are the same people who support cutting (or gutting) the social safety net, public education, any sort of universal healthcare, environmental protections, labor protections, and much more. These are the same people who tend to support a bellicose foreign policy (even though, for example, such actions severely damaged Iraq's Christian community; also, Christian support for Zionism has terrible, fatal consequences for Christians in the region). The anti-choicers are usually the same people who see no problem with police brutality and the prison-industrial complex.
That's all very anti-life, and I can't take seriously the arguments of people whose values are such that they support such stances. On top of that, if they care so much about stopping abortion, why do so many of them have a problem with the protocol that's been shown again and again to collapse the abortion rate? I am referring to subsidizing and encouraging LARCs (IUDs & implants), together with comprehensive sex-ed. Secular pro-lifers tend to support this, but the God Squad are lukewarm or hostile. How come?
It's about sex. They have a problem with sex.
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@lovemytide45 That's exactly the point. Whenever a woman does this to boys, there are countless comments saying that sort of thing. It's infuriating, as adults doing that to minors, no matter the sexes involved, usually causes long-term difficulty in forging healthy relationships, boundaries, consent, trust, etc. That's at minimum! Yes, that includes all of those "hot for teacher" cases, and all the others involving a woman and a boy. I'm tired of the aforementioned reaction.
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It may or may not apply here, but there are a few different personality types involved in things like this. People like Horowitz have the convert's zeal, i.e. he wants to atone for his youthful radicalism by first assuming that all leftists (and even liberals!) are just like he was at the time, and then treating them as such. People like Hitchens are contrarian for its own sake, even when it makes little sense. He supported toppling the secular government in Baghdad, thus bringing about many of the evils of religion he had so often opposed! Then there are people like Putin, once a Red, now a White, but always authoritarian. (I also don't want to exaggerate, the way people portray Putin as some sort of great threat, but that's not the point.)
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@elkeater8672 No, the news media are not engaged in some kind of conspiracy to divide Americans. "We" have never been united, despite people (apparently like you) telling the marginalized to "know their place" and not get "uppity."
Many (most?) of those arrested are being charged with offenses somewhat more serious than trespassing, but many more are in trouble for attempts to obstruct official proceedings, i.e. stop the certification of the election. More still are charged with various violent crimes, some have weapons charges, and some are charged with conspiracy to do all of the above and more. The attackers came very close to killing lawmakers (and staff), stopping certification of the election entirely, and causing a constitutional crisis. This was a coup attempt, or a putsch at minimum, and numerous respected analysts have characterized it this way.
Yes, five people died outright. Babbitt was shot by a Capitol Police officer while breaching the penultimate barrier to the House Chamber, where some legislators and staffers were trapped. Sicknick was beaten and sprayed with chemical irritants, which according to the M.E./coroner contributed to his subsequent stroke. One attacker died of an amphetamine overdose, and two others of natural causes. Two officers killed themselves soon after the events, as did one of the accused attackers (whose charges were light, as it happens). Over 140 people were hospitalized, mostly police. Some of their injuries were maiming, such as loss of fingers, loss of an eye, traumatic brain injuries, etc.
I don't like the neoliberal capitalist news media like those you named any more than you do, but those aren't the only places where one can find objective facts about this event. Fake/false news refers to clickbait sites that impersonate professional news organs, not corporate news outlets that you don't like. It's depressing to see that "do some/your own research" has come to mean "look up nonsense on conspiracy sites and pass it around on Facebook," but here we are.
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@barberman2737 You don't know what you're talking about. For one thing, some countries have free passage between them- most of the EU, for example. For another, they aren't "just staying." They're asking for asylum, and being processed. For another, "stay and fix their own country" is the kind of thing that people said to some of my ancestors, and probably some of yours as well. It's even worse when US foreign policy, trade policy, etc. are a big part of what causes people to flee in the first place. Migration is a boon, not a burden, which is why expediting the work permits is so important. Also: *its.
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This behavior causes a lot of psychological harm to minors, no matter the sexes involved: man-girl, man-boy, woman-girl, and yes, woman-boy. Men who've gone through this usually have long-lasting problems with forming healthy relationships, consent, trust, boundaries, etc. If you are one of those people who think that this sort of thing is so great, "nice," or anything like that, do you think that it should be legal?
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@jasongrooming36 I got vaccinated months ago, and I wear a mask when I go inside (other than my home, of course). I hope that the same is true for you. I'm not sure why you wrote that, but anyway, I really hope that you're not serious. Everything is on video, most of it shot by the attackers themselves, along with security cameras, police bodycams, journalists, and bystanders. There's a truly enormous amount of footage, along with months' worth of internal communications between the attackers, and plenty of other evidence. There's nothing "overblown" about the testimony from people who were involved in heavy fighting, suffering serious injuries and nearly dying as a result.
I don't know where you get this idea that the worst thing that occurred was the laptop theft. Babbit was at the head of a mob that was shouting about their desire to lynch lawmakers and anybody else that stood in their way. I don't watch CNN, so I'm not sure why you mention that.
Here- This is an outstanding documentary, the product of six months of forensic analysis of the footage from that day, along with the evidence discovered after that. There's been more since! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0
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@Sam_T2000 1. There's no need for the scare quotes. The money you're talking about refers to their patients being able to access Medicaid. That doesn't go to abortion, unfortunately.
2. I'll answer that with another question: Why are there PP locations that don't perform abortions at all?
3. Yes, they can prevent someone from getting an abortion. Not only do they lie to women to try to convince them to not get an abortion, they also trick women intending to go to their abortion appointments into coming to their locations, which are often very close to legitimate clinics, have similar names, and even look similar. Some women have reported being given tea and chocolate, when they are supposed to fast before their appointments. The staff are known to wear white medical coats despite not being medical professionals, and they then drag out their whole process. This causes missed appointments, and otherwise makes things doubly difficult for women who have had to travel long distances, take time off work, arrange childcare, etc.
Off-the-shelf pregnancy tests and ultrasounds administered by amateurs (who have been known to tell women that their pregnancies are further advanced than they actually are) are hardly prenatal care.
As for the most important part, the lies, that's not in dispute. Here's the American Medical Association: https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/why-crisis-pregnancy-centers-are-legal-unethical/2018-03
Here's the Waxman Report: https://motherjones.com/files/waxman2.pdf
And here's a video investigation, featuring undercover work, and testimonials from women who were tricked into going to these places: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ex4Q-z-is
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First, a world of free movement would be $78 trillion richer. Free markets, you see. Borders make everyone poorer. Even conservative economists acknowledge this. This is from The Economist, and they know what they're talking about: https://www.economist.com/the-world-if/2017/07/13/a-world-of-free-movement-would-be-78-trillion-richer
Second, how, exactly, are lower-skilled workers supposed to migrate to the US? https://reason.org/wp-content/uploads/files/a87d1550853898a9b306ef458f116079.pdf
Third, if you know anything about how horribly the US has treated and continues to treat Latin America, you might have some more empathy.
Fourth, I'ma laugh I'ma cry, if you don't see the need to apologize for genocide, you ought to re-think your life.
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@freespeech8293 He was still internally repressive, often with a lot of violence. See the actions of the Savak. This was one of the things that inflamed Khomeini's movement. Also, trivia time: the Shah and the Queen were attending a performance at the Berlin Opera in 1967, and protesters were gathered outside. Once the royals were inside the building, some supporters of the Shah (I think that they were Iranian students studying in Germany) turned and used the shafts of their signs to start beating the protesters. The cops intervened, mostly in opposition to the protesters (no surprise), and the protesters started fleeing. One of the cops shot and killed a student protester, and this was one of the events that inspired the formation of Red Army Faction (the Baader-Meinhof Gang), the famous/infamous leftist West German guerilla/terrorist group.
(Weirdly enough, the cop who shot the student was himself a leftist, part of a communist organization. It's not evident that he was acting under orders to kill someone in order to make fellow leftists angry enough to get violent; he might have just been doing his job as a police officer, in the heat of the moment.)
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@nunyabusiness3666 "Closing down the entire economy" is hyperbolic, but in any case, most of the world had to lock down for some time, and a lot was different even when it was safer to go back to work. That's no one's fault. It had to happen, all around the world, to prevent a calamitous toll of death and internal maiming (which does far more economic damage compared with efforts to prevent such casualties). If by "printing trillions" you're referring to the stimulus payments to sustain household incomes, that's another action that many governments around the world took to ease the burden on their citizens.
(You'll notice that most of the above occurred during the Trump years.)
The entire global supply chain was disrupted by Covid, and this caused shortages that pushed prices higher. The Russian war against Ukraine has made things worse. Corporate greed, manifesting itself in price gouging, did not cause the inflation crisis, but it is definitely prolonging it and worsening it substantially. Consumers are often not aware of what reasonable prices might be, and are liable to believe exaggerated stories about reasons for price increases, and thus several industries (notably including grocery-store chains) are able to continue to profit while raising prices.
In October of 2022, Biden threatened Big Oil with a windfall profit tax unless they increased domestic production to thus decrease costs of fuel. That's hardly a push for clean energy, unfortunately. Moving on; there's no strong empirical evidence that military spending is a cause of inflation. I almost with that it was; maybe then it could finally be curtailed!
Economists across the spectrum agree that migration is a net boon, not a burden; in fact, migration has an unmatched potential for dealing a huge blow to poverty. This is why work permits have to be expedited; there is no good reason for the waiting periods. Don't commit the "Lump of Labor Fallacy," which populists on the left and right love to exploit. There is not a fixed amount of work for people to do. Job totals are elastic, not inelastic. No one is "taking our jobs." Note also that the US is bound by treaty to accept asylees/refugees while their claims are being processed. There is no "first safe country" policy, and there is no legal requirement to request asylum at a point of entry. (Most people also don't realize that there are almost no visas for lower-skilled workers. There is no "line" for them to get in.)
So no, migrants are not a cause of inflation. The stresses you mentioned don't all have anything to do with inflation anyway. Scapegoating them is mean-spirited and ignorant. Blaming powerless minorities for a country's problems has a long history, and it won't go away. What if you have to seek asylum/refuge someday?
Talk about "over-regulation" is usually just a snarl phrase from robber barons who want to destroy the environment and abuse (or worse) their workers, and face no repercussions. We're not talking about things like, say, zoning laws in California.
The difficulties for young people to do things like buying homes are the result of over forty years of bipartisan neoliberal capitalism, beginning with the Reagan/Thatcher years, and continuing uninterrupted to the present.
The current inflation problem is a global matter, with little in particular to do with Biden or Trump. (Recent surveys, as in surveys with results from the past couple of months, show that consumers usually think that inflation refers simply to price increases, rather than the rate thereof. Inflation rates have dropped by nearly half from the spring of 2023, but they still answered that inflation had worsened.)
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@tomperkins5657 Ok, good. I was concerned for a moment that you were one of the jingoes who think that Saddam Hussein or Ho Chi Minh or Manuel Noriega or Khomeini or Khaddafi (or even Milosevic!) were going to send their Marine Corps to invade the US and take away our freedom. For that matter, there were decades of nonsense about the Warsaw Pact/"Red China"/Castro/Ortega/etc. doing the same. Note that these same American jingoes never seemed to be too worried about nuclear-armed South Africa, in fact they were often big fans.
Yes, the US was attacked (and technically invaded) by the Axis in WWII. That's no small thing! With that said, remember, and this is something that people in Eurasia are more likely to remember, that the Axis was defeated largely due to the mind-boggling suffering and sacrifice of the Soviets and Chinese, to the tune of tens of millions of people. One can understand the Cold War better by keeping this in mind.
Moving both forward and backward from WWII, the record of US imperialism is ghastly, and it not only continues (not only involving direct war; see the US-backed coup in Honduras in 2009, propping up authoritarian regimes filled with secret police), but has consequences to the present day (tricking the imperialist, paranoid Soviets into invading Afghanistan...). This is a bit of a tangent, but you'll notice that most of the desperate undocumented migrants these days are (proportionately) coming from countries the US has done so much to demolish. You hear about lots of Salvadorans/Guatemalans/Hondurans, but hardly anybody from Costa Rica or Belize.
The scapegoating of universities is hackneyed.
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@pats4dawin106 Nobody should trust you on this, as you weren't even paying attention to the video. Watch it again, and listen. In fact, in this case, some of the boys were disturbed by this situation from the beginning! Mental health professionals make it clear that this sort of thing does a lot of psychological damage, including longstanding problems with forming healthy relationships, boundaries, trust, consent, etc. Then they get older, look at people currently at the age they were when this happened, and get even more disturbed. Attitudes like yours just make it worse. If you think that it's so great, do you think that it should be legal?
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@skibum415 No, this isn't true. Bowser had asked for Guard deployment a few weeks before this. It's true that at first, the Capitol Police and then the Sergeants-at-Arms said that it wouldn't be necessary, but they did start requesting help from the Guard during the attack, fairly early on, and yet the DoD delayed them for hours. Bowser scrambled to get help from elsewhere, including Virginia, the FBI, etc.
Lots of people are in trouble due to the riots that you mention. In contrast, so far, most of the people who attacked the Capitol have gotten very light sentences. It's true that the plotters and members of organized groups haven't been sentenced yet, but the point is that there's a world of difference between civil unrest and a coup attempt.
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@craigstewart1532 It depends. You're making a serious case of apples versus oranges; say what you want about Moore's polemical films, but D'Souza is off-the-charts deluded. Interestingly, he's wrong on more than one level. He makes assertions/conspiracy theories that aren't even controversial; they're simply untrue and even nonsensical. Meanwhile, like most of the things that Obama's detractors claimed about him, I wish that many (not all) of D'Souza's claims were true! What a difference that would make!
Where to start? I wish that Obama had actually displayed any hint of an "anti-colonial" bias. That would be a good thing, inasmuch as imperialism is evil & the US was birthed in such a struggle. Maybe then his administration wouldn't have helped topple Honduras's government, helped dismember Libya, gotten involved in Syria, helped the Saudi mass-murder in Yemen, etc. There was no "socializing & destroying" of the US economy! He's a Wall Street Guy; a member of a neoliberal capitalist party. The accusations about him transferring wealth to Brazil & elsewhere is bizarre nonsense. The accusations about him being a tool of some Muslim conspiracy is even more ridiculous. There's no creeping, spreading Caliphate. Do the math, among other things.
Had he actually wanted to reduce the US imperial presence in the world, that would be extraordinary and wonderful. If he wanted to make things right regarding the victims of said imperialism, that would be shocking & similarly wonderful. Had he wanted to minimize or even eliminate nuclear weapons (which are useless; even imperialists like Kissinger and Powell say this) I would have been joyous. Similarly, had he the audacity to do something just and decent regarding Israel, let alone "throw them under the bus," I would cheer.
D'Souza has a history of cruelty (among other things) going back to his days at Dartmouth. He's never apologized for trafficking in bigotry, propagating the Dixiecrat Fallacy, and spreading conspiracy theories about various and sundry things (Soros? Seriously? Smearing him regarding the Holocaust is profoundly offensive, & also illogical. If Soros was somehow funding Antifa, who battle against Nazis, he would never have been a collaborator, right?). Interestingly, he was laughed at by conservatives for his assertion that the "cultural left" motivated (or even caused) the 11 September attacks.
Please disregard people like this. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dinesh_D%27Souza
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@CJ-1776 For life expectancy, infant mortality, obesity: CDC, WHO, World Bank, USSA, New England Journal of Medicine, NCHS, etc.
Human Development Index is the measure of overall well-being that the UN Human Development Program/Programme uses at both a national and sub-national level.
For a variety of socioeconomic figures, like income, poverty, lack of health insurance, B.A. degrees, etc., the US Census Bureau and the Population Health Institue (U. of Wisconsin) have it.
We've already talked about crime. In the categories I just mentioned, while there are exceptions, the Democratic-dominated states (especially New England) are generally the best, while the Deep South (and West Virginia) rank worst. The US has the highest income inequality of any developed country. When you look at it by state, it's much less consistent.
Regarding migration, California for example is a victim of its own success. The blasted NIMBYs have restricted development to such an extent that housing supply is much, much lower than the demand. Hypothetical demand to live in CA is high, but supply is low, and thus prices of housing and other things are ridiculously high. It's also difficult for governments (state and local) to raise funds, thanks to ballot initiatives from years ago that mess with taxation. All of this has a lot of follow-on effects, and they are no laughing matter, such as a homeless crisis and all that comes with it. In spite of it all, CA performs well in most ways, and sometimes much better than the places where people who mock it live.
The upshot of this is that a lot of people have left, and more continue to do so. At the same time, West Virginia, Mississippi, and Louisiana have lost population (California has not, thanks to immigration from abroad). This is partly due to higher death rates in those states, but also due to out-migration.
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It's not a relationship, it's predation. When boys speak up about what/s being done to them, they often aren't taken seriously, thanks to attitudes like yours. Just a few minutes into the video, the guest discusses how much psychological harm this causes. Boys who go through this often have longstanding problems forming healthy relationships, boundaries, consent, trust, etc. They get older, see children of the age they were when it happened, and it's even more disturbing. This is a terrible thing. If you think that it's so great, do you think that it should be legal?
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@Oldguy1900 I think that you misunderstand. According to the coroner/M.E., the attacks on Brian Sicknick played a role in triggering his stroke(s). Four officers who were in the fighting that day subsequently killed themselves, and it's not coincidental. The attack was indeed an insurrection, or to be more precise, it was the culmination of months of lawsuits, an attempt to have Georgia election officials "find" thousands of votes, a scheme to have the military seize voting machines, and finally an attempt to prevent certification of the election. The attackers came very close to doing that, and they came within a few yards and a few moments of capturing and lynching lawmakers & staff. All of this would have triggered a constitutional crisis.
Yes, they were armed. Several were caught with firearms, other guns were stashed nearby, don't forget the explosives, and they had many thousands of melee weapons. The injuries to police show just how brutal it was. You know what Trump said about the magnetometers, right? The Representatives and staff who were trapped in the gallery and couldn't flee were sending messages to their loved ones, and they removed their badges which would have identified them as lawmakers. Note that Ashli Babbitt and company were about to penetrate the last line of defense before reaching the gallery.
Pence fled with the rest of the Senate, but refused to leave the premises, since he feared that the SS wouldn't let him return to finish certification. Of course, before anyone praises him, note that he only "did the right thing" after getting on the phone with Dan Quayle (who say that coming?) and hearing from Quayle that there was no constitutional way to refuse to certify the election results.
The damage was actually pretty bad, and while it could have been much worse, it's really beside the point. I'm not sure what you mean by "Democrat police," but the violence directed at the Capitol Police began pretty quickly with the breaching of the outer fences, and it escalated from there. The Metro PD (Metropolitan Police, the city's main cops, not to be confused with the Metro Transit Police) showed up as reinforcements, preventing a massacre, but the point is that the violence was well underway.
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It's not funny. I know that you have "Jk" there, but: This behavior causes a lot of psychological harm to minors, no matter the sexes involved: man-girl, man-boy, woman-girl, and yes, woman-boy. Men who've gone through this usually have long-lasting problems with forming healthy relationships, consent, trust, boundaries, etc. If you are one of those people who think that this sort of thing is so great, "nice," or anything like that, do you think that it should be legal?
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@keithphone5693 He's lied about abortion, tariffs, J6 (in several ways), migrants & jobs, crime, climate change, the classified documents, and, of course, the 2020 election, again and again.
That's just a small sample.
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Asking for asylum is legal, and it's not required to do so at a port of entry. Under Biden, migrants die in the desert. Under Abbott, they die in the river. If more visas were available for lower-skilled workers, and if the US didn't support authoritarian rightists around the world, this would be a small issue. Also, note that the US, Canada, and Spain are opening centers in some places, where asylum-seekers can apply without making a journey. However, when people need to flee for their lives ASAP, that won't help!
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@myopinion378 I can't speak to any details about the investigation right now, but it's true that the largest category of defendants are charged with something a bit heavier than trespassing, but still nonviolent. Some of the heaviest charges are for conspiracy, among those who left evidence of organized plans to (among other things) stop the certification of the election. Anyway, it's indisputable that there was heavy fighting on the other sides of the building (this footage is abundant in the excellent documentary "Day of Rage," among other places, and this went on for some time. Also, some of the busiest entrances are elevated and visible on the approach; besides that, a normal tourist visit does not happen without guides, in huge groups, and carrying those flagpoles and other paraphernalia. There was no election theft ("steal" is not a noun) to stop, and Clyde is part of a very dangerous effort to deny/minimize/excuse a putsch (if not an outright coup attempt) that nearly caused a constitutional crisis. Even if he specified that he was allegedly referring to the stragglers at the end (I don't think that he has), why would he feel the need to say "Yeah, but those people at the end looked like tourists" in the first place?
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@ba1038 Yes, as a matter of fact, that's what happens. Men who have been through this often face long-term, even lifelong, problems forming healthy relationships, understanding boundaries, consent, trust, etc. Do you think that it should be legal? How about woman-girl, man-girl, man-boy?
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@billshiff2060 You haven't been paying any attention at all to the hearings, or the long process of discovering/compiling evidence, have you? The event was pre-meditated, and part of a multi-point plan to overturn a perfectly legitimate election. The attackers came within a short distance (40 feet in the case of Pence) and a few minutes of lynching lawmakers (among others), preventing the certification of the election, and causing a constitutional crisis. This was far beyond a minor disturbance! Even the battle itself was more than that.
Most of the casualties in the 2020 riots were the work of cops, vigilantes (numerous ramming and shooting attacks), provocateurs (Boogaloo etc.), and apolitical lumpen. They went on for months, all around the country, but the impact was nothing compared with, say, 1967-1968, among other incidents.
Also, the phrase is "shoo-in," and I don't watch CNN clips all that often, let alone the channel itself (I never watch TV per se).
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@bradchristy8429 The denialism here is appalling. Most of the police fought bravely (and the avalanche of video footage available is not a leftist hit piece; I'm not sure what piece you're referring to), while some collaborated with the attackers. If anything, I thought that there would be more collaborators. There is absolutely no evidence for "Antifa agitators" involved on that day.
As for the riots you mention, there's a big difference between civil unrest and a coup attempt. The amount of damage was spread all over the country across many months, and note that it was still much smaller than, say, 1967-1968, when the US had a much smaller population and much less stuff to destroy. Besides, I don't play "good protestor/bad protestor;" in a world where property is more valuable than people are, property destruction is a valid tactic. The Sons of Liberty disguised their identities & destroyed corporate property, and we call them heroes.
I would like to see a similar video about the riots as well, but that would be a little awkward for a major capitalist news entity, inasmuch as it ought to be clear that most of the death toll happened at the hands of the police, vigilantes (all those car attacks, and some shootings) and apolitical lumpen. There surely are videos about that sort of thing, but of course they don't have the same audience.
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@Finraen No, I don't endorse the sort of thing you mention in your first sentence. Far from it. However, they did much worse than what you describe. They were hunting for legislators and others; it's on very clear and obvious video footage from multiple sources- the attackers themselves, legislators & staff, security cameras, bodycams, etc. Plus, in the past couple of months we've seen more and more details emerge of the plans of the organized groups, and their communications with one another and some high-level contacts in the Trump administration. Some of that was obvious from the start, but it's unambiguous now.
Yes, it was a coup attempt (or more specifically, a self-coup/auto-coup, as we've seen in some countries). That's much worse than civil unrest; the rioting you refer to was nothing compared to, for example, 1967-1968, and it had no possibility of making the country ungovernable, or anything like that. No, there is absolutely no evidence for the conspiracy theories. None at all.
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@Finraen Yes, I do believe it. It's plausible on its own, and it's reinforced by the other damage suffered by the personnel of both departments, especially Capitol PD (they are in charge of Capitol Hill; they got backup from the Metropolitan Police, aka "Metro PD," who are city-wide. They're not to be confused with the transit police who are responsible for the transit system, called "the Metro"). Morale collapsed, many officers resigned, others cannot return to work due to trauma, and one famously turned in her weapon because she was afraid of what she would do with it.
This was much worse than anything that they had suffered in a long time. I've been looking at DC clashes going back decades, and I can't find anything comparable. The only thing "fishy" is the degree/extent of connection between the people on the ground and those in positions of power.
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You have no idea where these two are from, when they arrived (and how) if they are in fact from abroad, nor whether or not it would have anything to do with any particular President. Migrants, no matter their status, commit less crime than US-born citizens. Also, once upon a time it was very helpful for police (among others) to know phrases in Yiddish, Polish, Greek, Italian, Mandarin, etc.
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Igor Horváth No, I did answer your question. You were asserting (if I understood you correctly) that women ought to be obligated to the embryo because they caused said embryo to exist, and I am pointing out that it doesn't matter. Embryos don't have personhood, unlike you and I.
Newborns have rudimentary behavior of personhood, and they're no longer inside a host organism. Somebody can be found to take care of them. I was afraid that you were going to reference The Silent Scream. That video was almost immediately found to be fraudulent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silent_Scream#Medical_community
Personhood refers to the characteristics that make killing wrong, all that is taken away when somebody is killed: The will to live, biological autonomy, sentience, etc. It's why you wouldn't react the same way to a fire that destroyed countless frozen embryos as you would to a disaster that killed a much smaller number of people.
Some animals are indeed sentient, and while the charges aren't murder or manslaughter, note that animal cruelty is definitely criminal.
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Igor Horváth That's more than too much to wade through. I'll put it like this: Nobody minds not being born. (There's also a good case to be made that it's the ideal outcome.) There's nothing approaching a will to live, sentience, preferences, desires, and all the other things taken away when a person is killed. That's why we think that killing is usually wrong. Babies have rudimentary forms of this sort of thing, but, more importantly (and crucially), they're not in a quasi-parasitic relationship with a host organism that may not be willing to serve as a carrier. After delivery, somebody can be found to take care of a child; there's no more inextricable tie to the pregnant woman.
Very, very few of those characteristics (if any) apply to embryos or fetuses. There are dishonest and/or naive attempts to do so (like The Silent Scream, among other things), and unfortunately those catch on with certain audiences.
Now, as for all the "what abouts," those are case-by-case. Pardon the passive voice: Plugs are pulled all the time, extraordinary lifesaving measures are forgone, and decisions are made about the appropriate use of deadly force. People make those decisions every day; in fact, it could be argued that all of us do that in passive ways.
I think that I was referring to this article earlier; I'm not sure: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-does-consciousness-arise/
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@Funnyfresh420 Is there any reason to doubt the accounts of fecal matter being tracked/spread around? To be sure, I would definitely like to get testimony from cleaning crew members, police, and anyone else who would have encountered it. Regarding Sicknick, the initial reporting about the fire extinguisher came from police sources, but in any case he was definitely sprayed with chemicals. Diaz, the M.E., clearly stated that the events still led to Sicknick's death, since such levels of stress and trauma can trigger strokes. Indeed, the legendary Dr. Cyril Wecht says that the death could be classified as accidental, a homicide, or undetermined.
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It was a bit like Woodstock... 1999! Unlike, say, Woodstock 1969, the Woodstock Anniversary concerts in 1979 (little-known and unimpressive), Woodstock 1989 (spontaneous, DIY, and a charming story), Woodstock 1994 (aka Mudstock, pretty successful), the Heroes of Woodstock Tour (2009), or any of the low-key tributes held at the original site, there are no parallels.
I know, I know, "What about the 2020 'Summer of Love' riots!?" You get my point, however.
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Being at a school is much safer than being at home, and immeasurably safer than being in a vehicle! School shootings predate Columbine; besides the Cleveland Elementary "I don't like Mondays" shooting, there are quite a few others that you have never heard of. Yes, most of those were one-on-one, but others were mass shootings, and a couple of bombings as well.
Speaking of children more broadly, the fact is that they are much better behaved than they were in previous generations. The media tells you otherwise, but the statistics speak for themselves. Teen pregnancy has dropped like a brick since the early 1990s. Schoolyard fights are much less common, and overall juvenile delinquency is well below its peak.
This has many causes, but when kids socialize online, they have fewer opportunities to get in trouble. Also, lower total fertility rates (births-per-woman) mean fewer kids to try and keep track of. Better yet, a decline in beating children (corporal punishment) has a huge positive impact. That sort of thing is counterproductive, and every major medical association in the world makes this clear.
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@cornpop7176 Whataboutwhataboutwhatabout... For one thing, it's usually impossible to say which elements were responsible for which property destruction- Antifa, other activist groups, and especially apolitical lumpen. For another, in a world in which property is valued more highly than people are, political vandalism (property destruction) is a valid tactic. I don't agree with all of the targets, but I'm not about to be one of those pansy "protest police" who gets on others' cases about that stuff.
As a matter of fact, Rosenbaum (who wasn't even an activist) was to blame for a lot of what happened. He never should have been let out of the psychiatric ward (but of course such care is lacking in this country). You can see in the video footage that he's yelling nonsense (including using the "N word" towards white people) at Rittenhouse & others, and you can see Anthony Huber holding Rosenbaum back, trying to calm him. It seems Rosenbaum and others were angry at Rittenhouse & others for their armed intimidation, and then Rosenbaum broke free, charged, and the rest is history.
Sidebar: Quite a few more shots were fired at different times during the incident, but nobody seems to know where, or by whom. It seems pretty important, but it's a mystery.
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Asking for asylum is legal, and it's not required to do so at a port of entry. Under Biden, migrants die in the desert. Under Abbott, they die in the river. If more visas were available for lower-skilled workers, and if the US didn't support authoritarian rightists around the world, this would be a small issue. Also, note that the US, Canada, and Spain are opening centers in some places, where asylum-seekers can apply without making a journey. However, when people need to flee for their lives ASAP, that won't help!
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@perseusrex614 You misunderstand. Unionization is one crucial way to obtain decent wages, and, crucially, humane working conditions. That's not an ideal solution for a variety of reasons, which is why radical unions like the IWW have always advocated workplace democracy. Anyway, times of high unionization in the US were also times when many workers could spend more of their own money, which is a stimulus. Market forces operate within whatever framework is at play. Plus, on top of all of that, migration is self-limiting, in large part due to remittances. Rich-country money goes a long way in less-wealthy places. There's a reason why net migration with Mexico has recently been around 0.
Also, you do understand how destructive US foreign and economic policies force people into the migrant stream, right?
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Asking for asylum is legal, and it's not required to do so at a port of entry. Under Biden, migrants die in the desert. Under Abbott, they die in the river. If more visas were available for lower-skilled workers, and if the US didn't support authoritarian rightists around the world, this would be a small issue. Also, note that the US, Canada, and Spain are opening centers in some places, where asylum-seekers can apply without making a journey. However, when people need to flee for their lives ASAP, that won't help!
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What's with all the self-censorship? Anyway, you didn't mention the details of the event at which the picture at 22:35 was taken. NPI, the National Policy Institute, was Richard Spencer's White Nationalist group that aimed to make racism respectable, and played a role in the alt-right. They had conferences in DC twice a year, and this was in late 2016 (it's the same weekend at which Spencer gave a speech inside the Reagan building which involved some of the same salutes, a fight outside, etc.). They kept changing the location of their previous night's dinner, since people kept finding out where it was to be held. They finally, at the last minute, went to Maggiano's in Friendship Heights, on the northern border of DC and Chevy Chase. This picture was taken in the restaurant's upstairs "party room."
Anti-fascists figured out this destination, and hurried to the location, walking into the restaurant. They couldn't get all the way up the stairs, leading to a lengthy shouting match on the staircase, and someone played a prank on Spencer that led to him ditching his shirt and re-emerging wearing only a vest on his torso. As police started to arrive, the anti-fascists descended the stairs and left, to the applause of diners who were glad to see someone standing up to the covert Nazis. The protest continued outside for some time, and the NPI goons had to be spirited out in secret (the restaurant is part of a larger complex of buildings).
Maggiano's issued a non-apology "apology," showing that they did not quite grasp the gravity of the situation (or just didn't care), claiming that they host events from various ideological groups, including an Obama daughter's party. After much criticism, they issued a more appropriate apology, but as far as I'm concerned, the damage was done.
The protest, and the aforementioned fight, make up part of the footage here, to the tune of Elvis Presley w/JXL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzgF5_v8lyA
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@robertcross7571 Perhaps the biggest cause is lead. That generation (and, to an extent, some of the Silent Generation and some of the X-ers) breathed in a lot of lead from gasoline emissions. They were also exposed to quite a bit from paint, household fixtures (radiators and such), and, in some cases, water. Lead exposure in childhood lowers IQs and weakens impulse control. It's a major cause of crime; the correlations match almost perfectly, around the world. Note that lead exposure is still a serious problem in substandard housing in the US today, which helps explain some of the disparities (racial and otherwise) in crime rates.
There are other factors. People are nostalgic about the times when kids could roam more freely, but that also gave them a lot of opportunities to get up to misdeeds, sometimes very serious ones. Corporal punishment was also more common, which is completely counterproductive. When minors are supervised (organized activities and the like), they're obviously going to get into less trouble.
Also, when a lot of socializing is done online, almost everything changes! Note that there are other effects besides less delinquency/crime. The age of sexual debut has gone up, and teen pregnancy has dropped like a brick, although the latter is more due to better sex-ed (outside of some very backward environments that the US is full of) and improved access to (and use of) better contraception.
There is, and/or there recently has been, a lot of good news. The grouchy pessimism in these comment sections is totally unnecessary.
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@MladenVass Statues are erected to honor someone, in various contexts. That's not in dispute. Most of the Confederate statues in the US were erected during periods of civil rights agitation, in order to intimidate Black Americans and anyone supporting them. They are monuments to white supremacy, and this was made clear in (for example) the speeches made at their dedications: https://hgreen.people.ua.edu/transcription-carr-speech.html
The effect hasn't somehow gone away.
The Sons of Liberty toppled a statue of King George III, melted it down, and made bullets out of it. Were they wrong to do so?
In 1956, when Hungarian rebels rose up against the Stalinist regime, they toppled statues of Stalin and his cronies, took symbols of the regime out of flags, etc. At the end of the Cold War, many Soviet and Warsaw Pact statues/symbols did come down, in particular statues honoring hated spy boss Felix Dzerzhinsky. Yes, making the Nazi salute or displaying the flag is a felony in Germany, among other places. In fact, several European countries ban display of Communist iconography.
Yes, I know my history.
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Voter suppression (I shouldn't have to do your research for you, but you should know about the disparity in numbers of voting machines depending on the area, voter ID laws, gerrymandering, etc.), denial of paths to citizenship based on fear of the resulting voters, hostility to birthright citizenship for the same reason, the War on Some Drugs (to be fair, not all of the GOP support it, & some Dems do), mass incarceration (same thing), support for police militarization and brutality, hostility towards minority religions, hostility towards LGBTQ rights, environmental racism, and much, much more.
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@ericapoitras9223 Secular pro-lifers don't, but the religious ones (the majority) have become (or always have been) uneasy with contraception. For one thing, they have a problem with unmarried people having sex in general, and particularly sex without "consequences" (they sometimes use that term) in general. For another, many are convinced that the most effective contraceptives (IUDs and implants, often referred to as LARCs [Long-Acting Reversible Contraceptives]) are actually abortifacients. Some say the same about emergency contraception as well.
They also subscribe to a concept called "risk compensation," in which a false sense of security leads to people acting in ways that end up harming themselves and others. It's studied in relation to (for example) protective gear in some sports. In this context, the idea is that people will get a false sense of security due to contraception, and have so much sex (or become lax about proper use) that eventually they will have a contraceptive failure.
Do a search for the phrase "contraceptive mentality," and you'll see what I'm talking about. For an early look at these developments, search for an article titled "Contra-contraception."
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Asking for asylum is legal, and it's not required to do so at a port of entry. Under Biden, migrants die in the desert. Under Abbott, they die in the river. If more visas were available for lower-skilled workers, and if the US didn't support authoritarian rightists around the world, this would be a small issue. Also, note that the US, Canada, and Spain are opening centers in some places, where asylum-seekers can apply without making a journey. However, when people need to flee for their lives ASAP, that won't help!
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@MrHazyDayz Yes, exactly. Both such situations occurred. Have you been looking at the ensuing legal cases? There are some very different levels of charges. Besides the charges for attacking cops, the heaviest charges tend to involve conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding (prevent certification of the election), and things like that. You can see it in this very video, and the other footage that shows the organized groups who had maps and plans of what to do once they gained entry.
The District of Columbia has very strict gun laws, partly due to the city being full of VIPs, and partly due to the effects of the Crack Wars. It's certainly not hard to believe that in a big crowd of DC-area residents, some would be CCW holders (there is no reciprocity w/other jurisdictions), but it's pretty notable to find firearms among (mostly) outsiders involved in something like the assault on the Capitol!
As for the 2nd Amendment, it's mostly liberals who have a problem with it (although quite a few liberals do own guns), not leftists. The further left you look, the more weapons you find. That's been true for a long time.
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@MrHazyDayz Nobody has been accused of either. As for the former, I could see charges filed under the "levying war" clause. As for the latter, that would depend on figuring out who attacked Brian Sicknick, since the coroner/M.E. made it clear that the attacks on him were a key factor in the strokes he suffered. All of this, however, presupposes a judicial system with any sort of fairness. Some of the attackers are being charged with watered-down versions of those charges, such as Conspiracy and Obstructing an Official Proceedings, and others are charged with violent assaults of different sorts, but none of them are facing the sorts of charges that leftist militants, particularly those of color, would face.
I just read an article about Daniel Baker, who, unless his appeal is successful (or he gets a commutation/pardon/etc.) will spend years in prison for some unwise speech. He's a left-wing activist who previously went to Rojava to fight against ISIS! It's just outrageous; he's being punished much more harshly than.. well, read it yourself: https://theintercept.com/2021/10/16/daniel-baker-anarchist-capitol-riot/
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This behavior causes a lot of psychological harm to minors, no matter the sexes involved: man-girl, man-boy, woman-girl, and yes, woman-boy. Men who've gone through this usually have long-lasting problems with forming healthy relationships, consent, trust, boundaries, etc. If you are one of those people who think that this sort of thing is so great, "nice," or anything like that, do you think that it should be legal?
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"US fought back..." And the British, and the Commonwealth forces (India [the largest all-volunteer military the world has ever seen], Aus/NZ, etc.), the Dutch, the Free French in Indochina, resistance groups all over the place, and, of course, more than anyone else, the Chinese! (Yes, the USSR jumped in at the end.) I can understand why it might be glossed over in Sweden, inasmuch as it had almost no relevance for your country. It's awful, however, that Americans often don't have much of a clue about it. If they do, even then, they tend to think that the US saved the world all by itself.
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@alexwalker5645 Your numbers are much too low, and again, there's nothing illegal about asking for asylum. The other countries that they often pass through are often afflicted by the same problems (murderous gangs attempting to conscript children, rightist death-squad regimes that the US supports, etc.). Note, however, that some asylum seekers do stop well short of the US border. (Also, why were the rules different for Cubans for so long?) You might have to seek asylum yourself someday.
By the way, no, the economics do help the average American, and the benefits would be much larger if the process were more streamlined. In other words, expedite the work permits. Economists across the spectrum are almost entirely in agreement that migration is a boon, not a burden. In fact, it's one of the strongest poverty-fighting mechanisms possible, and it should be as free as possible.
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I get the reference, but no, it's not nice at all. Just a few minutes into the video, the guest discusses how much psychological harm this causes. Boys who go through this often have longstanding problems forming healthy relationships, boundaries, consent, trust, etc. They get older, see children of the age they were when it happened, and it's even more disturbing. This is a terrible thing. If you think that it's so great, do you think that it should be legal?
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@wayneantoniazzi2706 There are no slick attempts at dissociation. It was obvious that the NSDAP was a far-right party, from its inception. The term originally referred to monarchists, but it also applied (and applies) to theocrats, and to fascist groups like the NSDAP who all advocate basically the same thing: a return to an imagined past.
They hate organized labor, anyone with progressive social views, and so on. Fascists in particular scapegoat powerless minorities for a country's problems. They all want to make their countries great again, before their scapegoats ruined it. Rightists like this are often known to claim that, somehow, powerless minorities and decadent/tyrannical elites are both to blame.
Leftists first and foremost are focused on who owns (or at least runs) the means of production. This can be an alleged "workers' state" a la Marxism, or entirely in the hands of workers' councils a la anarchism, or something in between. The Nazis were violently opposed to all of this.
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@kenmacfarlane8744 No, it was a putsch, or an outright coup attempt, that came within a short distance and a short time of lynching lawmakers (among others), preventing certification of the election, and causing a constitutional crisis. The evidence is quite clear. There was plenty of comment about the civil unrest you mention. Most of the violence was the work of cops, vigilantes, and apolitical lumpen, along with some of the property destruction (although, in a world where property is valued more highly than people are, political vandalism is an acceptable tactic; see the Sons of Liberty).
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@randominc.2251 No weapons? Several were arrested with concealed guns, some of the Oath Keepers had rifles stashed in a nearby hotel room for a "Quick Reaction Force," we're finding out now that they were hoping for an armed second wave, one guy had lots of guns and explosives in his nearby truck, and of course the attackers had thousands of melee weapons, with which they inflicted some very serious injuries (lots of TBIs, loss of an eye, loss of digits, etc.). Quite a few of the attackers are charged with (or have pleaded guilty to) Assault With a Dangerous Weapon. As for being "let in," there are countless hours of video footage of the heavy fighting at various entrances, footage of the forced entrances to the building via broken windows, and so on. Most of the police fought bravely, but some collaborated with the attackers. If anything, I'm surprised that there weren't more collaborators.
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@makecharlemagnegreatagain4380 About which part? The Senate is extremely undemocratic. I would have to watch again to tell you anything about the Speaker. Our country still has a clear white nationalist agenda, in any number of ways (do I have to enumerate them?), and I'm not sure what you mean by the Muslim representatives being anti-Semitic. (I prefer the term "anti-Jewish" as Arabs are also Semites, and "Semite" is an old-fashioned quasi-racist term anyway).
As for the shooting, it isn't "all Trump's fault", but note that the shooter was a ferocious rightist who was disappointed with Trump for not being anti-Jewish enough, and he (the shooter) condemned the congregation for aiding immigrants, and he openly subscribed to Trump and company's characterization of Central American migrants (including the caravan) as some kind of existential, violent threat.
It's pretty common, historically and today, for bigots of one kind or another to have people close to them, including family members, as members of a disliked/hated group. Note that Trump has clear, unequivocal ties to white nationalists and anti-Jewish elements.
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@Virusskeptic-d3z A video made by some yahoo is not empirical evidence. Besides, that assertion also demonstrates an ignorance of basic statistics (pretty common these days). Since the pool of vaccinated people is much, much larger than that of the unvaccinated, there are far more people to draw from, if you will. Overall numbers of infections are much lower, the severity of said infections is much weaker, and thus the death toll is much smaller. Yes, a numerical majority of the much-smaller-than-before number of deaths in a given time might well have been among vaccinated people, but a larger percentage of the unvaccinated will have been infected, with worse consequences, up to and including death.
The virus is still going around, and it's still killing people, but far fewer than before (and the severe, life-long consequences of the infection are greatly weakened). This is due to the effectiveness of the vaccines. There is no empirical, peer-reviewed scientific evidence to suggest otherwise.
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I'm not saying that this is the motive, and I don't endorse such bans, but keep in mind that Maus is actually really racist. Spiegelman depicts all Polish non-Jews as pigs, not only the cops! Spiegelman of course is Jewish, and the symbolism of such an unclean animal is obvious. It implies also that the Polish non-Jews were not on the "food chain" of the Nazis, which is absolute offensive nonsense; Poles were one of the larger categories of Holocaust victims. Poland lost a large percentage of its population, both to the specific Holocaust (camps, Einsatzgruppen death squads, etc.), but also to violence from the German forces & collaborators more generally.
Spiegelman also depicts all Americans as dogs, regardless of race. Is this supposed to mean that Americans don't have racial divides?? Besides, all of this seems to buy into Nazi racial pseudo-science, categorizing people into biologically distinct "races" with incompatible characteristics. Did he really want to give the impression that he agreed with the Nazis that Jews are weak-but-dangerous vermin?
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This is Skid Row. There's no reason to go there. Videos like this are never representative. There are videos here of Santa Monica and Venice Beach in good weather, looking absolutely beautiful, with people everywhere doing cool stuff on skateboards, ropes, bikes, yoga, volleyball, etc. I know that you can see that on Florida beaches, but there's less humidity, no red tide, etc. A couple of years ago, large parts of Venice Beach had turned into a homeless encampment, but the tents were removed (although that's also sad; where are they to go?). The point is that crime videos should never be considered an accurate representation of anywhere.
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@miked.5089 No, there's more to the definition than that. Anyway, proving a negative, in this case that something hasn't gone into a proverbial toilet, is impossible. I'm tired of this "Democrat-controlled cities" trope. If you're talking about the recent uptick in crime (after decades of decline), that's affecting lots of places, including GOP-run Jacksonville. Besides that, rural areas/decaying smaller cities across the country, mostly Republican except for those with non-white majorities, are often awash in meth, opioids, suicide, and the dysfunction that follows. The Trump administration declared a State of Emergency for rural Alaska; Oklahoma has similar problems, etc.
There's a lesson here about neoliberal, capitalist imperialist parties.
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Asking for asylum is legal, and it's not required to do so at a port of entry. Under Biden, migrants die in the desert. Under Abbott, they die in the river. If more visas were available for lower-skilled workers, and if the US didn't support authoritarian rightists around the world, this would be a small issue. Also, note that the US, Canada, and Spain are opening centers in some places, where asylum-seekers can apply without making a journey. However, when people need to flee for their lives ASAP, that won't help!
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@benmohatun Why is it a bad thing to "lawyer" one's way out? Anyway, an unconscious person had personhood before going to sleep, so that argument is silly. Embryos have never had it. All decisions go to the host organism (and doctors/other medics, if relevant). Yes, human embryos are human. They're also alive. It's a question of personhood, not species nor life. It's a question of what makes killing wrong. You say that all life is sacred, but not only is that question-begging (assuming that sacredness exists), but it's also naive. Everyone, by action or inaction, contributes to killing people every day.
And then, there it is- your sexual hang-ups. "Your way of life... casual meaningless sex..." First, that's none of your business. If that's why someone wants an abortion, so what? Second, if it makes a difference to you, women from many situations and all walks of life have abortions. Most are adults who already have at least one child. A great many (I don't know whether most or not) are in committed relationships, and around 14 or 15 percent are married. The most commonly cited reasons for seeking abortions are due to the cost of pregnancy, childbirth, and especially childrearing. (Do I have to explain why "just give it up for adoption" is completely inadequate?) It's a matter of economics, along with education regarding, and availability of, modern contraception.
At worst, abortion is a morally neutral act.
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@icausedbidenflation9999 You're a troll, but what the hell: No, the vast majority of them broke in as the police tried to resist. A few of the cops may have collaborated with the attackers. Said attackers came within a few feet and a few moments of lynching lawmakers & staff, preventing certification of the election, and causing a constitutional crisis. Some were caught with firearms, other guns were stashed nearby, don't forget the explosives, others were caught with blades, and don't forget the hundreds of blunt instruments, chemical sprays, tasers, etc.
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@alexharper7645 They tell women that abortion causes cancer. They say that having an abortion places them at greater risk for infertility and/or depression. They claim that abortion is in and of itself a dangerous procedure. Every major medical organization in the world states that these claims are categorically untrue, due to the preponderance of empirical evidence.
On top of that, they misrepresent themselves as medical facilities, and they try to trick women into entering them (by operating in locations immediately next to, and sometimes in buildings with near-identical architectural styles to, legitimate abortion providers; also, their staff often pretend to be clinic escorts and try to herd women into the CPCs). Their staff are known to proselytize with religious stuff, they are known to judge women for their sex lives (slut-shaming), they call embryos/fetuses "babies," they misrepresent the true nature of abortion procedures, and they try to "run out the clock" on women seeking abortions.
The people involved in this sort of thing are shameless and disgraceful. Have whatever position you want to, but don't lie about it.
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What left-wing media? Unicorn Riot? Crimethinc? Anyway: Asking for asylum is legal, and it's not required to do so at a port of entry. Under Biden, migrants die in the desert. Under Abbott, they die in the river. If more visas were available for lower-skilled workers, and if the US didn't support authoritarian rightists around the world, this would be a small issue. Also, note that the US, Canada, and Spain are opening centers in some places, where asylum-seekers can apply without making a journey. However, when people need to flee for their lives ASAP, that won't help!
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@MaggieSullivan60 The arguments from motion and efficient cause have some of the same problems. They assume that there's no possibility of infinite regression, and that the assumed causal starting point must be a deity, (particularly your specific deity). There could also be multiple first causes, and also consider that physicists have observed phenomena that have no apparent cause. Just because most things in the universe have a cause, that doesn't mean that the universe itself has to have one.
Arguing from possibility & necessity also requires assuming facts not in evidence. If one starts from absolute nothingness, then there are no laws of physics to prevent the universe from appearing on its own. You make the same assumptions about causes, and that this cause has to be a singular deity.
The argument from gradation is pretty silly. Lines 3,4, and 5 are simply untrue!
As for design, this designer would have to be largely evil, or at least inept, and ineptitude doesn't seem to fit with ideas of a singular deity. Do I have to explain why?
Besides all of that, you're still left with a need to explain who/what made your deity.
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@Suzi Logsdon That's a rambling word salad filled with falsehoods. Also, please stop shouting.
Embryos aren't babies yet, and you can't ask them anything. There's no harm in not being born. "Fetal pain" is at best disputed and at worst outright nonsense. The assertion that fetuses "move away" is a canard, a point refuted a thousand times. Embryos have neither innocence nor guilt.
Most women who have abortions already have children. They've seen ultrasounds. They know what they're dealing with. Don't you dare invoke the Holocaust- the Nazi regime harshly restricted abortion rights. Also, most Jews are pro-choice, stemming from the "breath of life" phrase in the Torah, or maybe the Talmud (not that Jews were the only victims of the Holocaust, but the point is that it's ignorant and offensive to refer to the Holocaust when arguing against abortion rights).
My mother is pro-choice. That's how I know that I was wanted. If she had had an abortion when pregnant with me, I just wouldn't exist. I would not even be capable of knowing/caring/minding. It's a morally neutral act, and there's no harm in it. It's a matter of personhood, not life.
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Indeed. It was Rosenbaum's fault. He was a deranged pervert, off his meds. He was no activist. He went against advice and went into town, despite being told that the pharmacies would be closed. He drifted into the protest zone, and immediately started causing problems. In a confrontation at a gas station, he yelled anti-Black slurs at White militiamen (for lack of a better term), disturbing the protestors. He was also "false stepping" at the militiamen and daring them to shoot him; there are pictures of Anthony Huber restraining him.
He eventually saw Rittenhouse alone, chased him into the CarSource parking lot, and Rittenhouse shot him. I would have fired also! After that, everybody thought that Rittenhouse was an active shooter who was escaping. Anthony Huber had a lot of courage; Ryan Baltz (militiaman who had been accompanying Rittenhouse) said that Huber died a hero. Maurice "Jump Kick Man" Freeland didn't even have a weapon, but he leapt (literally) into action, and narrowly escaped a bullet himself. Gaige Grosskreutz's confrontation with Rittenhouse took just a couple of seconds; he thought that Rittenhouse was re-racking his rifle, which is why he lowered his hands and was a split second away from pulling the trigger.
The story would be so different if not for matters of millimeters and milliseconds!
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@zombieepx1933 Any of the people whom he shot? Yes, I do. I don't really feel sorry for Joseph Rosenbaum. Besides being a perv, he was no activist, just a seriously mentally ill person who disobeyed advice, went into town trying to find an open pharmacy, and drifted into the protest zone. He started wreaking havoc, disturbing people (there's a picture of Anthony Huber trying to restrain him at the gas station, when he was daring people to shoot him, yelling anti-Black slurs at White people). Then he targeted Rittenhouse. It's Rosenbaum's damn fault.
After that, everyone who pursued Rittenhouse thought that he was an active shooter who was escaping. They were very brave, as most of them had no guns. Even one of the militiamen (Ryan Baltz, who accompanied Rittenhouse earlier in the evening) said that Huber died a hero. Maurice Freeland only had his flying feet, and he narrowly escaped death! Gaige Grosskreutz saw Rittenhouse re-racking his rifle, and he responded accordingly. So yes, I feel sorry for Huber (and his loved ones) and Grosskreutz.
I have mixed feelings regarding property destruction, but the fact is that Kyle Rittenhouse had no business deciding to be a guardian of property in Kenosha while still a minor!
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@guardtheham1233 In large part due to the shaming and stigmatizing that the God Squad dishes out. Also, let's see- women abort formerly wanted pregnancies due to discovery of birth defects, changes (often severe) in their financial situation, abuse, and much more. Women have to scramble to get appointments, funding, time off work, childcare, care of other dependents, a place to stay, etc. They often need to make all of this happen without abusive domestic partners/family members finding out. All of this was bad even before the Dobbs decision, thanks to (frankly unconstitutional) TRAP laws, and it just got worse.
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@lordec911 This whole thing happened in the space of a few seconds. Grosskreutz wasn't sure what happened at first. For one thing, I wouldn't trust someone who had been among the militiamen and was accused of shooting someone, also, Grosskreutz thought that he said, "I'm working with the police." Gaige dropped back at that point, and among other things was clearly unwilling to shoot someone in the back. The group pursued Kyle because they heard the shots and heard that Kyle had just shot someone. I would infer in that situation that a guy who had been among the militiamen had shot one of my comrades, in common with other violence (car attacks, guns) inflicted in recent protests that summer, and others going back a few years.
Gaige drew his weapon because it looked like there was about to be another shooting. Seconds later, Rittenhouse appeared to be re-racking his rifle, and thus was not accepting Gaige's surrender.
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Asking for asylum is legal, and it's not required to do so at a port of entry. Under Biden, migrants die in the desert. Under Abbott, they die in the river. If more visas were available for lower-skilled workers, and if the US didn't support authoritarian rightists around the world, this would be a small issue. Also, note that the US, Canada, and Spain are opening centers in some places, where asylum-seekers can apply without making a journey. However, when people need to flee for their lives ASAP, that won't help!
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@NickKautz It's not a case of "looking for trouble." The groups are usually too big to just take sidewalks, and one has to attract attention. There was no reason for the drivers to feel threatened; they were not the targets of anything. Thus, driving through the crowd was a needlessly violent act.
There's the phenomenon of "road rage;" usually wildly out of proportion to the provoking circumstances. Did you ever see "Motor Mania" in driver's ed? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Mania)
As for your last assertion, you're asking people to place trust in a system that is stacked against them in a variety of ways, depending on what issue is at hand and who's involved. Spreading information, digitally and otherwise, is of course crucial these days, but it can never be successful on its own (and "slacktivism," like online petitions that organizations send around, are basically worthless). Contacting the offices of one's alleged representatives is not hopeless, but that too only goes so far. "Direct action gets the goods," as the old labor slogan goes. It was true then, and it's true now.
Without pressure from below, nothing changes from above. Women can vote and obtain contraception because so many were willing to put their bodies on the line. This country has a very violent labor history, with hundreds of workers being killed in strikes (at the hands of private detectives/security agencies & other company goons) as late as the 1930s. Then you have the life-and-death struggles of LGBT people, and much more.
Being quiescent and following the state's proscribed rules for activism is never successful. That's the reason for those stipulations to begin with.
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And that's what we Anti-fascists have been saying for a hundred years. When the IWW shot it out with the Klan, when our predecessors brawled with the fascists (and the cops who protected them, of course) all over Europe between the World Wars (trying to prevent the second one; this era is when the term "Antifa" was coined), when resistance movements fought back across Europe/Asia/Africa, when the Civil Rights movement in the US featured armed self-defense, when punk rockers and traditional skinheads battled against the Neo-Nazis who got into the skinhead scene, and so on and so on, up to the present day... You can't beat these people by ignoring them, or holding a peace rally on the other side of town, or whatever. They get more confident that way. They have to be stopped, by any means necessary, when they first appear.
Anti-Racist Action's Points of Unity, from 1988:
1. We go where they go.
2. We don't rely on cops or the courts.
3. Non-sectarian defense of other anti-fascists.
4. We intend to win!
Smash the fash! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzgF5_v8lyA
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@theimmortal4718 1. True, but the same dynamic is at play in, for example, NYC. People also like to say that taxes fuel departures from CA.
2. Sure, but see #4.
3. That's usually true, with a few exceptions. Even so, when a state has a higher number of, or simply more populous, urban areas (including small cities, which people often forget), that's going to affect its political composition, which often determines things like taxation.
4. Retirees are a different story, sure. That's true within countries, and indeed across borders.
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There's monarchy for you. They're usually so out of touch, and then the risk is that the most unscrupulous, bloodthirsty elements in society are the ones who do something about it. Sometimes those aren't the people who start the revolution, but then the most extreme/unhinged bunch hijack it (France, Russia, Afghanistan [eventually]). Let's see- Cambodia, Libya, Laos, Vietnam, Iran, Ethiopia, Greece, Ottoman Empire (the genocidaires had done their worst crimes earlier, but you know what I mean), England temporarily (I'm referring to Cromwell)... China might count, although the timing is a little different. Chiang and Mao were both maniacal. I could go on.
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@dilanjones6457 Not this again. Most of the deaths in the 2020 riots were the work of cops, vigilantes, and lumpen. They were pretty minor compared with, say, 1967-68, among others. The January 6th Putsch caused several more deaths besides that of Babbit, and, more importantly, the attackers came within minutes of lynching lawmakers, preventing the certification of the election, and causing a constitutional crisis. That's much more important than any civil unrest! Also, have the police really been defunded in the cities that you mention?
Leftists can't abide Lightfoot, by the way.
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Asking for asylum is legal, and it's not required to do so at a port of entry. Under Biden, migrants die in the desert. Under Abbott, they die in the river. If more visas were available for lower-skilled workers, and if the US didn't support authoritarian rightists around the world, this would be a small issue. Also, note that the US, Canada, and Spain are opening centers in some places, where asylum-seekers can apply without making a journey. However, when people need to flee for their lives ASAP, that won't help!
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@normajeanray Do you understand Singer's perspective? Why do you consider it crazy? It's how I've always looked at this issue, inasmuch as there's no harm in not being born. I consider stances stemming from religion to be crazy, inasmuch as that's somebody's superstition, not mine, and we shouldn't be making laws based on that sort of thing. (Also, there is no such thing as Satan).
There are a couple of other things here that need addressing: 1. How would you like to punish women who obtain abortions, whether through a provider or especially on their own? They can do this easily (if not necessarily advisedly!) with Misoprostol/Cytotec ordered online, or large doses of Vitamin C, black cohosh, and a variety of other things easily available at any drugstore. Early abortions look just like an early miscarriage, which they are, and thus one would have to investigate every miscarriage.
2. Do you support the positions of most secular pro-lifers, the Nuns on the Bus, and the National Association of Evangelicals? Since it's empirically proven that subsidizing LARCs (Long-Acting Reversible Contraceptives, i.e. IUDs and implants) and encouraging women to use them, along with accurate and comprehensive sex education, collapses the abortion rate, these groups believe that is the way to go to deal with abortion. Legislation, let alone direct action, is *not*.
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@docadams7099 Disapprove all that you want to, but abortion is clearly seen differently by lots of people (the majority, as it happens), me for one. This debate doesn't get very far in large part because few people really stop to think about what makes killing wrong. Human embryos and human fetuses are of course human. The difference lies in the characteristics by which we usually judge killing to be wrong: sentience, the will to live, biological autonomy, and everything else that is taken away when someone is killed. In other words, personhood.
Newborns have that. It's rudimentary, but it's genuine. Embryos and fetuses do not and cannot. There's no harm in not being born, and nobody minds it. As for the religious stuff, not everyone gives any credence to your commandments (isn't your "holy" book full of killing and outright genocide?), and I shouldn't have to explain why religion is not in any way tied to ethics in the real world. This is a point refuted a thousand times.
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@dapper892 Yes, it is primarily related to cost-of-living. I think that's indicated in surveys. In CA, for instance, breaking the power of the damned NIMBYs will save the state. Their actions are a huge part of why CA is so expensive! Said expenses fuel the housing crisis, and we know where that leads. Note that the most dangerous parts of CA are Fresno and Bakersfield, which are either GOP-leaning municipally, and/or at higher levels (Kevin McCarthy!). Newsom has signed legislation to cut through a lot of the housing red tape, but of course it won't be enough. Nothing changes from above without adequate pressure from below. Also, I always point out that Republicans are no fans of affordable housing.
California is a victim of its own success. The problems that have arisen are very serious, but the state still ranks better in most quality-of-life measures than most red states do. It and other states have a severe supply-and-demand problem, and no, the Democrats aren't going to address it without enough pressure from below.
NJ has the sixth-lowest poverty rate in the country. That can lead to an expensive place to live! That's true for heavily-populated parts of NY as well. I don't know if it's a NIMBY situation, but expenses are skewed in NYC/Westchester/Long Island/etc. by some of the world's wealthiest people living there (or just owning property!). A lot of that wealth is generational, which Black Americans have been unable to build in part due to things like redlining. That's one of those things most people don't learn in school.
Regarding FL as a recipient, that's been a destination for retirees for many years, and there's a large generation retiring now.
You mention cities. Many of the policies that affect crime rates are made at the state level. People say "the problem is blue areas of red states," but for one thing that's not always true, and for another it raises the question as to why the bluest areas of blue states don't make them the worst. Massachusetts is one of the safest states in the country. (DC, where I lived from 2009-2018 before moving to a place w/in walking distance of DC, is a special case.) When referring to homicide, the destination states you mentioned are mostly worse than the states from which people are moving.
Some consider MD (and hence Baltimore) to be in the south, but that's beside the point. Note that Baltimore has a serious problem with lead contamination, which is a major cause of crime. St. Louis is in the Midwest, along with (arguably) some of the others that you mention.
There is indeed a sharp partisan divide between states, with a few exceptions (DC, NM, UT, ID) when it comes to homicide rates. This mostly matches the other quality-of-life rankings. It's not necessarily true that this divide is a case of causation, but these sure are strong correlations, again and again. It reminds me when W. Bush's supporters tried to smear John Kerry as a "New England Liberal," which is no smear at all. (Also, regarding "faith-filled," New England is the least religious part of the country.)
I'm far to the left of the Democrats, but I have to defend them when the attacks on them are often ludicrous.
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@brandonr2188 The Democrats are a neoliberal capitalist reformist party, hardly "fascist." A strong central government (which I don't support) doesn't automatically create a dictatorial leader. Yes, they're hawks. The opposition are indeed a threat to democracy, as, among other things, they repeatedly tried to overturn the last election (which Trump even admitted that he lost) and have pre-emptively declared the invalidity of any elections they don't win. Also, who is murdering whom? What are you talking about?
Strong public health measures in the face of a virus (that killed many, maimed many more, and is continuing to do so) is not the same thing as the fascistic goal of orienting the populace towards prioritizing the perceived good of the nation and race. I shouldn't have to explain this. There's no global conspiracy regarding vaccines, the one thing that has gotten the pandemic somewhat under control. There's no reason not to get vaccinated, and no reason not to get boosted, unless you're trying to win the Herman Cain Award.
Natural social hierarchy refers to things like patriarchy, a racial pecking order, marginalization of sexual minorities, a class system, and much more. Powerless minorities (along with asylum seekers and migrants in general) are scapegoated for all of society's problems. Does that sound familiar? That's a strongly regimented society.
Economic regulation is one thing, which both parties practice to reward their supporters. It's another thing entirely to attempt to create autarky, through the use of things like tariffs (completely backwards; economists across the spectrum know how harmful such things are).
You've made a lot of dubious reaches here.
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@loke5713 No, anarchists are leftist (and I should know). The political spectrum (x axis, left/right) is not based on "big government" or collectivism or anything like that, although the y axis (up and down) on the political compass does measure that. The terms come from the era after the French Revolution, when monarchists sat on the right side of the Assembly, with the more hardcore elements on the far right, while anti-monarchists (called Republicans) sat on the left. This is also when the term "libertarian" emerged, referring to a left-wing movement that opposed hierarchies in general.
This continued into Karl Marx's day. At the First Workingmen's International, a rift emerged between the various tendencies (like those of Marx, Engels, etc.) who favored a Communist party and a "dictatorship of the proletariat" before eventually the state would supposedly wither away, and the tendencies that saw such a regime as just as bad as what they all opposed. This latter group, the Libertarian Socialists, included a lot of different tendencies who hated kings/queens/capitalists just as much as the State Socialists did, but didn't want to replace all of that with another authoritarian regime like the type they wanted to topple. The anarchists were the most hardcore, and they got kicked out first, creating a rift that has never healed. Again, I should know.
The Left is the party of movement, the Right is the party of order (e.g. preserving existing hierarchies). In fact, the far-right includes those (reactionaries) who wish to restore old hierarchies in society, the "good old days" or "golden age" that they think has been lost. They want to "take their country back" and make it great again, if you know what I mean. Monarchists, fascists, theocrats (there is overlap sometimes) can all fall into this category.
Again, this is not in dispute by serious scholars. There have been some fringe characters over the years who have suggested otherwise, but they are not taken seriously and are frankly considered to be cranks. Hell, look at how political activists describe themselves! Fascists and monarchists don't call themselves leftists (indeed they are mortal enemies), while anarchists do (some see anarchism as entirely separate, but that's another discussion).
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@loke5713 You don't know what you're talking about. The things that I'm mentioning have been true for centuries, and scholars are not engaged in some conspiracy to redefine words. Neither are the people who fall on those different points on the spectrum. Ask the fascists if they're on the left! Every reliable source says this, and otherwise you're just making up definitions of words.
Yes, making one's country great again often refers to that sort of thing, among others! The Nazis and their allies said themselves that they were going to crush the left in all of its forms (lumping even moderate liberals and social democrats in with the communists; does that sound familiar?). The fascists have always found most of their coalition partners on the right (historical & present fact), since after all they're happy to see someone crush the labor movement, feminists, etc.
As for who is worse, I really don't know, speaking of per capita death toll, since after all there have been many more fascist regimes/movements besides the Axis powers! Consider Rios Montt and all of the other Guatemalan Hitlers the U.S. has supported. I don't know if it really matters.
The point is, words have meanings. "Left" and "Right" have nothing to do with big/small government, and never have, from Day 1. Monarchists are the original Right, and there is nothing "small government" about them. That's true for right-of-center parties across the planet (yes, including the GOP), even if they have some rogue right-libertarian members.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.
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@destroymarxism2.0 I think that the police precinct in question was in Minneapolis, but in any case, yes. The J6 attack was premeditated at the highest levels, as we've seen in the vast amounts of insider evidence found & shown by the committee, and planning began shortly after the election. It was the culmination of multiple different attempts (lawsuits, trying to have the military seize voting machines, fake electors, the Georgia call, etc.) to overturn the election. The attackers came within a few yards and a few moments of lynching lawmakers, preventing certification of the election, and causing a constitutional crisis.
Nothing that occurred in the riots you're mentioning came anywhere close to that. There's no comparison.
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James Tyler Did you click the links and look at the stories from The Economist? Here are some of the factors: 1. Removal of lead from gasoline, and the phasing out of lead paint (although it's still prevalent in the substandard housing where many poorer people live). Lead seriously damages the brains of children in particular, seriously weakening impulse control among other things.
2. Declining prices of things like electronics. It's not worth it to steal a lot of things that once commanded a very high price.
3. A lot less cash in pockets, cash registers, safes, and so on.
4. Changes in child-rearing practices. Roving groups of unsupervised, non-busy kids are likely to get into trouble, and corporal punishment teaches that violence is the way to solve problems. This is shown by empirical evidence.
5. Aging populations.
6. Arguably, loosening of abortion restrictions leading to fewer unwanted children, though this has been challenged.
7. Greater awareness of, and lower tolerance for, the kind of abuse that Jake talks about here, along with other forms of sexual abuse/assault/etc.
I think that there are more, but you get the idea.
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@aaronmccutcheon LBJ was a war criminal, but he was sincere about the Great Society (much of which is still in place today, and is popular). He was proud of his ancestors for battling against the Klan, for example. With that said, he definitely displayed personal prejudices! He also knew that the civil rights legislation he supported and signed would infuriate the Southern Democrats, and lead to political realignment, but he did it anyway.
As for crime, you're wrong. The rise in crime in the mid-20th century began years before all of this, and sharply reversed beginning in the 1990s. This trend happened across the Western World. It tracks very strongly with, among other things, exposure to lead, specifically leaded gasoline. Kevin Drum in Mother Jones has done excellent work analyzing this; note that there's still a lot of inequity when it comes to lead exposure (see racial housing discrimination/redlining trapping families in substandard housing with lead paint, among other things).
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@francismarion6400 Yes, the first two parts are indeed being applied to the border. The vetting isn't instant, obviously. Afghan refugees are fleeing violence (in part created by the US), and the same is true of the people from Latin America. Denver and Columbus are just two examples; I showed you others, and besides, Columbus is not exactly huge (and it's representative of Middle America, no?). Your characterization of PBS is silly; if it was really government-run, don't you think that it would change noticeably between presidential administrations? If Mexico and/or other countries are not safe for the same reasons that are forcing people to flee in the first place, then they can keep moving. Note that the US, Canada, and Spain are setting up centers where people can apply from within their home countries, though I hope that you can understand why that's not feasible for everyone.
If they're actually saying that they're here for purely economic reasons (which is actually a boon to both sides of the equation, but never mind), why would they go to their court hearings, or talk to the immigration lawyers who often volunteer to help them? Note that the legal process is stacked against the migrants. As for the DNA tests, that's probably impossible to do en masse anyway, so what can one say?
You might be in their position someday.
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@nightnyungwe5945 I'm well aware of all of that. You make some errors; the Victorian era was a time of slow-but-steady decline in total fertility rates (births per woman). In fact, that's one of the things that led to the eugenic concerns we see in this video. Total fertility rates declined, and then declined at a faster rate, due to increasing education of girls, among other reasons.
Thankfully, the West isn't usually imposing these solutions anymore. Said solutions are being made available, and they're extraordinarily helpful. See the decline in Bangladesh's total fertility rate, along with India's and those of many other countries.
Africa's population is not an asset if they can't be adequately fed (among other things). Of course the problem is due to political factors, but that's unfortunately not going to change without massive tumult that would go on for a long time and be very destructive in its own right. That, and now the environmental factors are worse than ever before.
China's population figures were the object of scorn and derision when things looked hopeless. Note that the One-Child Policy only sped up the process that was already underway (family planning campaigns with far fewer dreadful elements were already in operation), it really served to empower the regime even more. China's demographics are not necessarily a source of strength today.
Keep in mind that I'm very pleased with the low (and often sub-replacement) total fertility rates in wealthy (and sometimes not-very-wealthy) countries. That needs to spread and continue. It's better for everyone who remains, and indeed it's better for all of the hypothetical people never even conceived/born.
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David Clark I know about some of the differing policies between countries, but note that abortion is far easier to come by in most of the other developed countries, as they have universal health care and easier access to providers. They don't have all the TRAP laws that make abortion providers few and far between, it's free (or very inexpensive) to the patient, and better transit systems (and/or smaller countries!) play a role. This all means that abortions can be obtained earlier.
Also, note that thanks to universal, comprehensive, and accurate sex-ed, and easily available subsidized LARCs (long-acting reversible contraceptives, i.e. IUDs and implants) these countries tend to have very low abortion rates. Later-stage abortions are already very rare in the US, and as I have just mentioned, they can be made even less common, but when it's completely unavailable, the consequences can be horrible.
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This behavior causes a lot of psychological harm to minors, no matter the sexes involved: man-girl, man-boy, woman-girl, and yes, woman-boy. Men who've gone through this usually have long-lasting problems with forming healthy relationships, consent, trust, boundaries, etc. If you are one of those people who think that this sort of thing is so great, "nice," or anything like that, do you think that it should be legal?
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@SkithTickler If you're referring to J20 (Trump's inauguration), not all of those things happened, but yes, that is generally civil unrest. One of the defense attorneys memorably put it like this (I'm paraphrasing): "The prosecution is describing this as Godzilla destroying Tokyo. It was just some broken windows." Notice that while there were a few early guilty pleas, the state didn't get a single conviction from hundreds of J20 arrestees, despite around 18 months of work and a lot of money spent on the process (which, by the way, is very trying on the defendants, and violates their right to a speedy trial).
Nobody, not even those who took pleas, cooperated with the prosecution. Everybody showed solidarity while people were facing decades in prison for minor offenses.
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@GIspecialty Russia? Did you see the Senate Report? The Ukraine call was genuine. He's not being impeached now; while his actions have been investigated regarding criminality during his presidency, he can of course still be held accountable as a private citizen. "Kangaroo Court" is a tired "snarl phrase," the committee members asked for Republicans to participate, and the vast majority of the evidence is coming from Trump administration insiders.
"Keeping this country in an uproar for liberal political gain" sounds like when (for example) people tell marginalized groups to "know your place," "be civil," and that sort of thing. You know, "stop getting uppity," "work within the system," etc. For one thing, riots are (if you'll pardon the cliche), the cry of the unheard. For another, "American people being attacked" describes, more often than not, the actions of the police, vigilantes (shooting and ramming), accelerationist/provocateur types (Boogaloo etc.), and apolitical lumpen. That accounted for most of the casualties.
Regarding property destruction, I may disagree with some of the choices of targets, but in a world where property is valued more highly than people are, it's a legitimate tactic. "Products of the disgusting liberal party" is ridiculous. You're right about "disgusting liberal party," but not in the way that you think. The Democrats are a neoliberal capitalist imperialist party, reformist at best. They're not about to create civil unrest intentionally as any form of rebellion/uprising, nor for gain. They do incite civil unrest due to the results of their own neoliberal policies (in common with the Republicans, of course).
I'm not "trained by these cowards," as I hope you can see. The border? Yes, I wish both parties would stop supporting rightist regimes in Latin America and elsewhere, along with neoliberal trade agreements that push people into the migrant stream. Asking for asylum is perfectly legal, by the way. Indeed, I wish that borders didn't exist (the benefits of that would be off the charts, and that's not just a leftist position), but we build to that.
Inflation is a global problem that has little to do with the White House. Energy prices have risen sharply in part due to Russia's aggression in Ukraine.
I could indeed go on. I do indeed have an argument, lots of them in fact.
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@elkeater8672 Let's try this again. Babbitt was shot. Another woman overdosed on amphetamines. Two more attackers died of natural causes, and another offed himself soon afterward. A couple dozen or so went to the hospital. On the other side, Sicknick was beaten and sprayed with chemicals, and the medical staff say that this is a major contributing factor in his stroke. Two cops killed themselves in the ensuing days, and over 140 were sent to the hospital, some with permanent, maiming injuries.
I don't know why you're trying to deny these facts. Here's another: The election was fine. There was no "steal" (which is not a noun, but never mind) to stop, and no cause to even delay the certification (you're too generous). There was no fraud. There's no evidence for it, and it's frankly ludicrous that there are ongoing attempts to demonstrate otherwise. And yet, court documents for most of the arrestees, and communications beforehand, made their plans clear.
I know Marxists. The Democrat Party is a neoliberal capitalist imperialist party, often conservative by the standards of other industrialized countries, and Marxists can't abide it. Leftists of any flavor feel scorn for liberals, and rightly so. To pick just one example, and maybe not the best one, liberals are the types who wear bright vests and act as "peacekeepers/marshals" at protests, telling others what to do and making sure that nothing much is accomplished. And yet, I perpetually have to defend Democrats and other liberals, not because I am any fan of theirs, but because the attacks on them from the right are so wack.
Regarding your "whataboutism," I've already explained the false equivalence. Regarding the violence, most of the deaths and injuries were the work of police, vigilantes, and apolitical lumpen. In a world where property is valued more highly than people are, property destruction is a legitimate tactic. See the Sons of Liberty, who wore disguises and destroyed corporate property in Boston Harbor. (They also tore down a statue of King George III, melted it, and made bullets from the metal.) I don't agree with some of the targets, and I'd like to think that that sort of thing was the work of the lumpen I mentioned above, but as for places like Gucci, screw them.
I don't know what alleged bigotry and hate you're referring to, but I'm almost afraid to ask.
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@elkeater8672 Kevin Greeson's heart attack was evidently triggered by all the excitement; he had become a hothead with high blood pressure, on the scene due to believing lies: https://www.propublica.org/article/the-radicalization-of-kevin-greeson
Something similar happened to Brian Philips, who had founded a Trumpist business, believed falsehoods, and pushed himself too far on that day: https://www.sungazette.com/news/2021/01/veterans-on-each-side-of-the-divide-among-capitol-mob-dead/
Could the two of them, and Boyland for that matter, have suffered their medical emergencies elsewhere? Of course, that's possible, but the connection to the violence is obvious, especially in Boyland's case.
As for Brian Sicknick, you're right that the early reporting regarding his death was in error. He wasn't one of the cops who were hit by the fire extinguisher, and while he was blasted with bear spray, he didn't have an allergic reaction to that. His stroke, however, did not just happen out of the blue. The M.E. made it clear that "all that transpired played a role in his condition." In other words, the attack pushed his system over the edge: https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20210420-police-officer-in-capitol-riot-died-from-natural-causes-says-coroner
Howard Liebengood's suicide seems to be directly connected to the attack: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/capitol-police-officers-widow-suicide-death-declared-line/story?id=76541480
The same seems to be true for Jeffrey Smith, who was injured in the attack: https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-01-27/second-officer-commits-suicide-after-responding-to-capitol-siege
I would be very surprised if Christopher Stanton Georgia's suicide was unconnected to his arrest at the events of January 6th, inasmuch as he shot himself four days later. He may have been facing relatively minor charges, but that's beside the point: https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/alpharetta-man-arrested-in-capitol-riots-found-dead-in-home
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Asking for asylum is legal, and it's not required to do so at a port of entry. Under Biden, migrants die in the desert. Under Abbott, they die in the river. If more visas were available for lower-skilled workers, and if the US didn't support authoritarian rightists around the world, this would be a small issue. Also, note that the US, Canada, and Spain are opening centers in some places, where asylum-seekers can apply without making a journey. However, when people need to flee for their lives ASAP, that won't help!
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@markwilkie7633 People always use this argument. They bring up comatose people, for example. Life support is discontinued very often, on a case-by-case basis. People in such a state obviously had personhood before becoming comatose. Their situation, however, has changed to the degree that it sometimes becomes not just okay to kill them, but in fact it becomes cruel not to. In the case of people who have no will to live, they had it once and could regain it, which is why it's even more crucial to be as careful as can be about what to do next. I'm thinking of cases like the physician-assisted suicide laws in some countries that enable people with apparently incurable psychiatric agony (depression, among other things) choose death in a clean, dignified manner.
None of this comparable to embryos & fetuses, who have never had the attributes of personhood. Were you thinking of other examples?
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@markwilkie7633 It's a hard one. On the one hand, they obviously had personhood before becoming comatose. On the other, they're completely without sentience, and (crucially) their ability to regain it is often extremely weak if it's possible at all. That's why the decision as to what to do next is in the hands of family members or someone else with power of attorney. Killing the comatose is often the kindest thing to do. So, in cases where regaining consciousness is impossible, virtually impossible, or if it happens at all it's sure to leave the sufferer a horribly debilitated near-corpse, personhood is gone. Becoming comatose, then, doesn't automatically take away personhood, but it very often does.
For embryos/fetuses, it's not that complicated. They've never had personhood. If they never get it at all, they're not missing anything.
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@tommyofthehillpeople Violent crime rates (and crime rates overall) are usually worst in the red states, with a few exceptions (New Mexico, usually a blue state, has one of the worst rates of violent crime, and Colorado for whatever reason has the highest rates of property crime). The bail system only serves to punish people who are too poor to make bail. Do you know what it's like on Riker's Island, and what that does to people? As for plea deals, over 90% of criminal cases end in plea bargains. That's awful, as that punishes people who are stuck with (deliberately) overworked public defenders. Defendants lack confidence in beating a charge, and so they usually plead out, including to charges of which they are not actually guilty (or have mitigating circumstances, etc.)
The point is that neoliberal capitalist parties are unable/unwilling to address these needs; however, lurid reporting shouldn't make us forget that the Great Crime Decline that began in the early 1990s is mostly still with us. Yes, that includes homicide.
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I know the reference, but no, it's not nice. It usually causes longstanding problems with forming healthy relationships, trust, consent, boundaries, etc. If you think otherwise, ask yourself if it should be legal. It's the same for any combination of the sexes: Woman-boy, woman-girl, man-boy, man-girl.
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@crabapplemcnasty3546 No, silly, we're those who fought against the brownshirts to try and prevent their rise to power (this is where the term "Antifa" originated), and then had to battle the Gestapo because not enough people were there to smash the emerging Nazis in the streets before the Gestapo existed. Hitler himself said that was the only thing that could have stopped them. A "free debate of ideas" would not have done anything.
The example I often use is Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists, aka the Black Shirts. They were on the rise in 1930s Britain, until finally British Antifa (and various others) had had enough, and started using direct physical action in response. They mostly clashed with the police (no surprise, that's why people often hide their identities, cops tend to support fascists), but got some shots in against the BUF. This sustained opposition (mostly at a place called Cable Street) caused the BUF to fragment. The BUF were never going to take power, but can you imagine them with seats in Parliament, in the local governments of major industrial cities, etc. once war broke out? Mosley remained an irritant in British politics for the rest of his life, but never came close to achieving much of anything.
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Here we go again... The Nazis burnt Sanger's books. She and MLK lauded one another. Rosa Parks was on PP's board in the 1970s. Sanger worked with W.E.B. DuBois, and she didn't tolerate bigotry on her staff. She spoke to the Women's Auxiliary of the KKK because they asked her to, since their menfolk didn't want them to know about contraception. She later said that it was the weirdest experience of her life. The "word to go out" quote is out of context; that phrase meant that she didn't want people to get the wrong idea, which was easy to do considering the racial environment at the time. Besides that, her own writings show a lot of sympathy with the women of the Far East.
Even Edwin Black, author of "War Against the Weak," a history of American eugenics, one of Sanger's strongest critics, makes it clear that she was no racist. She was many things, many of them bad, but not a racist.
She also never was involved with any abortion; in fact, one of her goals with contraception was to prevent the dangerous illegal abortions being practiced at the time. Black women today have high abortion rates because they have high rates of unplanned pregnancy. They get abortions of their own free will; nobody is tricking them into it.
Besides that, embryos aren't babies anyway, but that's a different topic.
I'm tired of the lies.
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@jasongrooming36 No, the investigations into the defendants are using a great deal, and "Day of Rage" did as well, forensically analyzing it for six months. Plenty of people have condemned things that others did during the civil unrest. Yes, the January 6th attack was an insurrection, or even worse- a coup attempt, or at least a putsch! They came very close to lynching lawmakers, preventing certification of the election, and triggering a constitutional crisis. Why do you say "vaccinated for no reason?" People getting immunized is the one way to prevent the lockdowns that you mention. Also, no, I don't watch CNN (what is it with CNN all the time?).
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@daveharvey5764 The sawhorse barricade had already been removed (by unknown persons, but not Fields), and the crowd was moving and/or milling around. They only had permits to gather in parks (which they technically didn't need). There were no permits for marches and such, but even the Charlottesville authorities seemed to understand that sort of thing just happens, and it's not the end of the world. Yes, they were inconveniencing a couple of other drivers, but they would have been out of the way in a short time. These drivers didn't try to drive (even slowly) through the crowd. There was no reason to do so.
Fields hit one of these vehicles, which flew forward and hit another, hurting the passengers and striking more protesters. I know people (trained street medics) who tried to save Heather Heyer's life until the cops made them stop (I'm not sure that they could have saved her, but that's beside the point), and I know others who were mere feet away from the cars.
In a lot of countries, it's understood that spontaneous, wildcat demonstrations are going to hit the streets, whether the state gives its approval or not. Playing by the state's petty rules is not going to effect change (trivia time: this is the one way that "effect" can be a verb). That's how the rulers want it. Other drivers let the march pass by. This man could have done the same, rather than being a hothead. It's not worth possibly killing and/or maiming anyone else, and, for that matter, putting him and his passenger(s) in danger as well, should anyone retaliate.
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@richardreese8038 Ok. Let's try this again. J6, as we've now seen again and again, was the climax of many attempts by Trump, who knew that he lost, to remain in power indefinitely. On that day, the attackers came within a few yards and a few moments of lynching lawmakers (among others), preventing certification of the election, and causing a constitutional crisis. This can now be seen in the vast amount of evidence collected and shown by the committee, much of it from former Trump administration personnel.
The civil unrest in 2020 had no remote potential of doing anything close to that. Besides, the property destruction was nowhere close to what occurred in, for example, 1967-1968. Most of the casualties were the work of cops, vigilantes (shootings and rammings), rightist accelerationists/provocateurs (Boogaloo types), and apolitical lumpen.
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