Comments by "" (@diadetediotedio6918) on "Rust Is Going To Destroy The Linux Kernel!!!" video.

@0x007A You've never seen Torvalds in action, have you? He's a blast pit, an "attack" against him would be pretty ineffective.
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The community is like: - "Haha, when will Rust enter the kernel? (ironically)" And when it starts to happen they're like: - "This can't be impossible Rust is a drug it's going to be a problem" In the end they are just people with no real perception of things, just haters.
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@Spartan322 If you say that you despise language, in that sense nothing would satisfy you other than her contempt for language. You simply want to hear the flaws you want to hear.
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@Spartan322 I think you're hyper-reacting to something that just underlined the things you said. See, it's a principle of rationality that you should keep your biases away from your concrete judgments, in that sense I manage not to hate or love any language and still recognize its strengths and weaknesses. I don't even consider myself a "Rust programmer", nor a member of the "Rust community", but look at how you've acted, in complete dismay, based on your assumptions. You basically called an experienced driver programmer a fanatic, and you said you would disregard her opinion if she recognized the "flaws". And finally, you said you despise language. Do you want people to get what you say if you say it in such an emotionally unstable way?
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@BeansEnjoyer911 I just don't understand these people, it seems that everything that is different is viewed by them with special contempt, when all we say is that the language is positive for the community and can lessen the various serious security risks that we have concretely faced in the past
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@anon_y_mousse The idea that Rust shouldn't be used as a language too
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@anon_y_mousse Literally not so. I think you are missing the meaning of the word elitist out of sight here. Rust is just a tool, it doesn't discriminate or differentiate, after all what is compiled with Rust is a native code binary just like what is compiled with C. What people say is just that Rust is safer, and therefore less problematic than C, and this has proven to be a well-founded truth (just see what people like Lina herself have to say about the language). I'd like to see your juggling act to justify why using Rust over C to increase something's safety margin = elitism.
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@anon_y_mousse This doesn't make any sense, no one is saying you are inferior if you don't use Rust, we're saying that not using Rust lowers the overall safety margin of software and that's a bad thing. Most people who don't like Rust are C++ programmers who simply believe that their language is divine and that you just need to be a good programmer so that mistakes don't happen (doesn't that remind you at all of the elitism you talk about? ). Rust doesn't diminish any knowledge either, it lessens the risks of making unsuspecting mistakes, you can still make conscious mistakes if you want, the difference between Rust and low-level languages like C/C++ is that most of the time you need to be conscious to writing bad code, and that's something that increases security effectively, because humans really do make a lot of mistakes. If this is elitism then using safety belts would be, using magnetic screwdrivers would be, wearing gloves when handling electricity would be, using switches instead of simply plugging in and unplugging wires would be, etc.
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@anon_y_mousse I honestly don't know which Rust programmers you've been talking to, could you show me an example of this toxic behavior? Because I can fully, right here and now, take you 10 recent discussions I had with incredibly toxic people in the C++ community, demeaning Rust programmers (in fact, I've seen many trying to attribute characteristics to Rust programmers, such as being "estrogenated" and as if the requirement to be a rust programmer is "lack of balls", does that sound like healthy behavior to you?). I don't think you understand what programming really is, because you have the false belief that something like "being a better programmer" has to do with being a "bulletproof" programmer, that's a childish thought, and a experienced programmer would quickly tell you how destructive this is. Programmers simply make mistakes, whether they are beginners (who naturally make more mistakes) or veterans (who will make fewer mistakes), humans are human, they make mistakes, and if they weren't unintentional things they wouldn't be called mistakes but bad actions . A security bug caused by a memory management problem could ruin the lives of thousands of people dependent on this critical system that is Linux, which is precisely why we need to improve not only our programmers but our tools, make things more difficult making mistakes does not mean failing to teach the principles behind mistakes. The seat belt analogy is excellent for exemplifying this, even the most veteran and capable drivers are at constant risk of having an accident, whether caused by themselves or others, which is precisely why using artifacts such as seat belts decreases the margin of human damage and is considered a positive thing, that's why we also endorse the use of safer brakes like ABS, even though the old brakes are perfectly functional, this is not to make people "less efficient drivers" , but to make them less susceptible to unexpected human error. Is it so, so difficult to conceive of this concept as a concrete thing?
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You're not confusing the Asahi Linux project with the person behind the Lina character, are you?
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@solidhyrax But Lina is a woman, dear, have you never seen her lives? I think it's pretty clear.
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@solidhyrax I think you have serious problems friend.
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@solidhyrax I just don't understand where you're getting these things from. The Asahi Linux project has several contributors, one being Hector himself and one being Lina, they are literally different people unless he has a split personality disorder.
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@BrodieRobertson It was not popular
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@cgme9535 I don't think a time frame of 50 years is enough to define something as having passed the "test of time", especially when we know that these technologies did cause problems (and did). But if you want to take it to that field, in that sense, it would be more valid to compare it with the following: people eat unhealthy, and are lazy, even nowadays despite all the mistakes, just because it's tasty. Danger is fun, feeling like you're in control is fun, that's why people say you should just "be a better programmer and not make mistakes" instead of telling you to use better tools AND be a better programmer.
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