Comments by "Kevin Skinner" (@kevinskinner4986) on "The Guardian" channel.

Do you have any actual PROOF that it was faked besides throwing tantrums this time?
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I'm sorry for that. Go ask Eric Dubay about why his videos contain "proof" from con artists that were caught red-handed faking evidence. See how long it takes you to ban you.
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Ironically, Flat Earthers are almost entirely hardcore conservatives.
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Flat Earth literally requires sticking your fingers in your ears and going "La la la I can't hear you" like a five-year-old when asked how the bloody hell the stars in the Southern Hemisphere can be 20,000 miles apart in opposite directions at the same time, which is what happens when their observed and recorded movement is drawn on YOUR map. Flat Earth has no business calling anybody else pseudoscience.
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You know, I've never once seen a Flat Earther repeat the same experiment during the new moon to demonstrate it's actually the moonlight and not their cover causing it. Why is that? Surely, as adherents of real science, you see the value in a control test right?
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No it doesn't. NASA in Hebrew means "lift up", which is a fairly appropriate name for a space agency. You're thinking "nasha" with a sh sound. Even if this were the case, so what? Organizations have unfortunate unintended acronyms all the time. My favorite was one of those senior citizen emegency response services whose initials were D.O.A (dead on arrival). This ignores the fact that NASA is a reorganization of NACA, the WWI-era aeronautics research organization. Sorry, you were deceived about deception. Ironic, no?
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Ironically, the people that talk about "scientism" tend to be the same people that blindly believe any alternative story they hear as long as it makes the big bad evil government look evil. Flat Earth literally requires willfully pretending that half the planet doesn't exist to avoid a paradox where the same stars are tens of thousands of miles apart simultaneously, which is what happens when their recorded movement are drawn on YOUR map, and then expects us to "shut up and stop asking questions about that and only question the things we tell you to" when anybody with a brain goes "WTF?"
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@rightsarentwrong5635 Let's hear this claim about how rigid body rotation disproves the globe and/or space travel. I'll go make some popcorn.
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Sometimes. It can also be about power, wealth, land, control over trade routes, and all of other things that humans desire.
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Why do you people lie and claim that round earth is only 500 years old? 500 years is the claim that the Earth moves around the sun. Before that, scholars used the Ptolemaic model, which has a SPHERICAL geocentric Earth. And yes, I did deliberately specify scholars, because 500 years ago, the average peasants couldn't even read their own name and were executing people for using magic that doesn't exist. If you guys have to rewrite history to make your point and don't give two shits that this is lying, why should we trust you?
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No, he's a firm believer in egocentrism, that the world revolves around him.
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@chrisgardiner2215 Chris..... all of mechanical science is based on a fundamental law known as Newton's First Law of Motion, which states that objects do not accelerate unless an outside force acts upon it. Without a force, your object would sit in midair completely immobile, forever, until something pushes it. If you want to disagree with that, then you're going to be fighting an uphill battle because you need to discredit the most basic foundation of physics. As a reminder, by the way, buoyancy doesn't exist at all in a vacuum because it requires a surrounding fluid, and has no effect on its own without gravity. It actually works by the heavier fluids pushing the less dense materials aside. That's why it stops working when the surrounding fluid is weightless or in freefall.
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Okay, but the stars in the Southern Hemisphere don't circle around your spindle. They circle around an empty point in the sky in the middle of the constellation Octans that is simultaneously due south of Africa, Australia, South America, and the Pacific Islands - despite the fact that those locations make a big X on your map.
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..... you do realize that if all of your expeditions come from ONE SIDE of the continent (because it's closer to your destination or has established outposts), than the OTHER side is unexplored, right?
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The word level also refers to a comparison made against a rank or standard. Your blood sugar level is a percentage of a solution. Not flat. Trauma Level is a rating scale for how prepared a medical facility is to deal with life-threatening emergencies. It's not flat. Video game levels frequently aren't flat, nor are character levels. A grandmaster-level chess player means that he's among the best in the entire world. Still not flat.
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No, scholars believed that that Earth was round. The beliefs of the uneducated peasants that can't even read their own names don't really matter.
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@jonyfish8852 And yet you have no problem with Flat Earth LYING and PRETENDING that observations that blatantly contradict it, such as the impossible movement of the stars in the Southern Hemisphere or the sun setting in the wrong direction from Hawaii, don't exist and that every single person that has ever made and recorded those observations is lying.
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By the way, Bart Sibrel is one of the reasons we don't trust a word that comes out of the hoaxers' mouths. He made this video of the astronauts "Faking the distance to the moon".... and GOT CAUGHT conveniently editing around portions of the raw footage that blatantly contradicted him, including shots that are impossible to perform with the trick he claims was used, because he was stupid enough to think that nobody would check his footage against NASA's. And that's not the only time he's lied about his evidence either. There's a reason he has a reputation for being shadier than a used car salesman.
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@theurbanhomstead3275 Instead of "filling in the blanks", maybe you should do some RESEARCH on the guy before jumping to the first conspiracy that crosses your minds. Von Braun spent the last twenty years before that trying to merge science and religion, talking about how space travel would allow men to explore creation, and criticizing religion from rejecting scientific advancement. It's pretty obvious from his other statements that he believed that God created the universe, but did NOT believe that the world was enclosed, in which case his Firmament quote would refer to the stars and heavens POETICALLY rather than a physical dome. Of course none of that matters to you people. "NASA is pure evil!!! " YOUR religion spent hundreds of years torturing people as "Satanic" scapegoats for natural disasters and hanging innocent children for casting magic that doesn't even exist, and that's when you weren't using accusations of "witchcraft" to simply eliminate people you didn't like and steal their land. You've danced this "pure evil" dance before. You were wrong then, why believe you now? "the Bible even days we live in a firmament" The Bible makes many, many claims to things and events that no man ever witnessed and expects us to believe them not because of evidence, but because they were revealed in DREAMS. Quoting the bible does NOT convince people that have doubts as to whether anything in there is accurate.
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@theurbanhomstead3275 And yet you blindly repeated a false claim that you would have known was false had you WATCHED the original video and paid attention because they do it on-screen, so clearly your research leaves much to be desired. When "confidence" blinds you to the possibility of being wrong, it's called "foolishness".
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@johnjinglehimmerschmitt9802 Um, no. Copernicus only claimed that the Earth went around the sun. Prior to that, scholars used Ptolemy's Almagest, which had a SPHERICAL geocentric Earth. The Flat Earthers DID tell you all about the Almagest, right?
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The stars in the Southern Hemisphere create star circles just like the Northern One. First of all, it's impossible for a spinning dome to create circles in any location except the center (and a flat Earth would have star ELLIPSES the further south you go; the only place they would actually be circular would be Santa's workshop). Second, the movement of those stars, when drawn on the Flat Earth map, results in objects being located 20,000 miles apart in opposite directions at the same time. The sun apparently sets in the WRONG DIRECTION from the Tropic of Cancer. Wolfie has this nice video where he took the Flat Earth "Sun overhead" world map watch app to Hawaii and found that the direction it says the sun was from his location and the direction the sun ACTUALLY was was about 45 degrees different. A 3,000 mile high moon would see almost 50 degrees of roation from London while over the equator directly south. A 3,000 high sun would mathematically need to be about 35,000 miles - three times the distance between the North Pole and the ice wall - to even be 5 degrees above a flat surface, let along be close enough to appear to setting. You can talk about lasers all you want, but when your world is warped and twisted like an M.C. Escher drawing, something is clearly wrong.
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Yes. At least two of their big youtubers died of covid last year after telling people not to vaccinate.
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@aimennpenny9228 Okay. RECORDED observations of the movement of the stars in the Southern Hemisphere violate three dimensional space on the Flat Earth map to the point that objects are 20,000 miles apart in opposite directions at the same time.
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Bruce, drawing the recorded movement of the southern stars on any sort of flat map creates a paradox where objects are in multiple locations at the same time moving in directions that defy three dimensional space. Does that not count as observable, empirical evidence?
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250 years ago, most people couldn't read their own names and YOUR RELIGION was still executing innocent people for using magic that doesn't exist out of pure paranoia and zealotry. The beliefs of the uneducated peasants doesn't matter. We care about what SCHOLARS think, not Joe Shmoe the village dunce.
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@Shane_Little You do realize that the stick trick only works on Flat Earth with TWO sticks, right? The instant you are trying to measure THREE or more locations, they don't match up and will never work.
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Um...... Guardian?
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@allvill4832 Dude, the Guardian is one of the oldest active newspapers in the world. They were using the letter G before your scam artist king Rowbotham dropped out of school. It's cute how you people go looking for "Eeeeeviillll conspiracies!" in random coincidences, then get upset when people act like you're crazy
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Um.... no, a magnetic compass explicitly does NOT work properly on a flat plane. The needle isn't symmetrical. it's weighted on one end to counteract that up/down from being on the side of a sphere and it'll tilt if you take it try and use it in the wrong part of the world. Bet you that if you chart the weight distribution to the place of manufacturing, it does NOT match what would be needed on a Flat Earth.
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@JudaismIslamUnited Did you repeat your cooling moonlight test on the quarter moon before and after the moon rose, or on the night of the new moon? You should do that. You want to make sure that it's only colder in moonlight. If your exposed position is still colder when no moon's present, then it's not the moon causing it and more likely your shade is trapping heat. This is why scientific experiments perform control tests - to ensure the factor they're testing is the actual cause.
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@JudaismIslamUnited ...... that's the point: to not have a shadow.
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@JudaismIslamUnited I have a feeling my response didn't go through. Let me clean it up a bit so it doesn't get pinged by a profanity filter. You don't get a shadow. That's the entire point of the second test. In order to tell that the moon is causing the cold, you have to determine that nothing else is causing the difference. That's why you would perform the same test without the moon in order to determine that neither your setup, nor anything else at play, is affecting it instead of the moonlight. This is why real scientific experiments use what is known as a "control test" - to run the test without the variable in play to determine a baseline without it. No offense, but you were lying when you claimed that you performed the test with no moon, weren't you? You wouldn't have done so unless you understood why.
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Why would the water slide down? It's not attracted to the bottom. It's attracted to the CENTER. We know how liquids act when attracted to a ball because we have liquids that stick to magnets. Okay, the planes are upside down. So what?
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@JudaismIslamUnited Just making sure, you are aware that magnetic north is NOT the same as geographic north right? Also you do realize that it moves, right? Like... a thousand miles since WW2. Why does that happen on Flat Earth?
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@JudaismIslamUnited It points to Magnetic North, which has moved five degrees since a survey was done in 2001 and is currently moving towards Russia at about 35 miles a year. Answer the question: why does it move on your model?
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Dude, your model requires pretending that half the planet doesn't exist because the stars in the Southern Hemisphere move in a manner that results in objects being 20,000 miles apart in opposite directions at the same time. Explain THAT.
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Fun fact. One of the students of the original Bedford Level Test performer put out a cash prize to debunk it. When somebody came along and showed that the original test failed to take into account refraction and therefore his results were wrong, not only did he refuse to pay up, he was thrown in prison for threatening to murder the debunker.
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So the moon being closer than a tiny waft of almost nothing that we couldn't previously detect means that NASA is "lying". Care to explain how?
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@pixelhy Flat Earth Focker. My comment appears to have been hidden. Must have triggered some keywords.
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