Comments by "Kevin Skinner" (@kevinskinner4986) on "Was The Moon Landing Faked? This Man Believes It Was" video.
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Chris, the video is about the damage the radiation can cause the computers and electronics, the things that will cause them to CRASH or be lost in space if they malfunction.
Apollo did not use modern computers. They used a completely different type of technology called "magnetic core memory". Magnetic core memory is nearly impervious to EMPs and radiation, but it is not used anymore and hasn't been since the 70s and 80s because integrated circuits, which modern computers use, are cheaper and faster.
Meanwhile, integrated circuits constantly have problems with radiation because the smaller you make them, the easier it becomes to corrupt and damage them and protecting them is so difficult and expensive that by the time your specialized parts are produced, they're already obsolete.
Would you say that we should drive Flintstones cars because a stone wheel can never get a flat tire?
(Also, as an aside, you realize that they're exaggerating... right? It wasn't a technical production. It was a PR video to hype a test they did literally a month later.
Keep in mind that what you say depends on who your audience is. Most people that are not scientifically read or part of this hoax debate know little about the belts, if they've even heard of them at all. They won't understand why the ship needs to be tested unless you tell them what you're testing against and why)
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@appletongallery Apple, about ten years ago, I took a digitla photography class because I needed some sort of art class for my major. I did an assignment where I took panning shots of the cars driving by my house. Now being the master class photographer I am, i held my camera at arm's length and took pictures without using the viewfinder. I STILL got about 10-20% good shots and that was with one afternoon. Taking photographs without a view finder is a skill that can be PRACTICED, and they had months of training with their equipment. It is nowhere near as impressive as blind people that paint.
Furthermore, there are THOUSANDS of photographs. Many of them are bad. Why don't you see them??
Because NASA aren't idiots and hire professional editors to sort through the trash and select the best ones for publication. Unless you've actively gone looking fot hem, you've seen maybe 40-50. You haven't seen the out of focus ones. You haven't seen the badly exposed ones. You generally only see the ones that have been deemed fit for publication and the rest sit in a vault gathering dust..
Also, i would like to point out that 95% of them are rocks and terrain, things that would be "perfectly framed" if you were in the same post code.
The real kicker here is that even the ones they do show are NOT perfect. You know that famous photographs of the Man on the Moon? It's EDITED. The original photograph is badly framed, so they cropped it and added a fake black sky because the top of the pack was cut off.
Gee, i guess the professional studio photographic crew didn't use their viewfinder on that one.
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@DANNY40379 No, you didn't, otherwise you wouldn't be praising Bart. You'd be calling for his tongue. But you'd never, ever do that because being a "critical thinker" is all about mindless conformity. All you did was watch other hoax videos and blindly believe them without a second thought.
Your side has consistently proved they generally have no clue what they're talking about. We're meant to believe "photographic analysis" from people that have never even touched a camera.
They've repeatedly lied and made up bogus "facts" about the Van Allen Belts, including blatantly lying about needing "six feet of lead to cross" despite being the wrong type of radiation. But we should just ignore this and trust you even after the lies.
You cropped details out of photographs, added your own, altered interviews, stole and faked credentials from "scientists to make your "articles" seem more credible than they are.
And you still believe them. You think I haven't done my research? I've seen the claims. I've seen the lies. I'm not impressed.
And it's not jsut Bart. Aulis, David Percy, Jack White, countless, countless Youtubers.... Hell American Moon (which was made by a man that profited off of peoples' deaths by promoting fake medical cures by the way) was so desperate they got caught trying to pass off ARTWORK as Apollo photographs to "analyze".
But this is okay, isn't it? It's okay to be lied to, and deceived, and scammed, as long as they oppose the big bad evil
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Just as a head's up, Bart got caught lying through his teeth about his "faking the distance" video over ten years ago.
He lied about the fact that it was supposedly never before seen footage that was supposed to be edited and played back later. It was actually the live scheduled broadcast.
He lied about the astronauts pretending to be against the window while actually filming across the cabin, then skipped over a section of footage just moments after the "camera is filling the window" comment where NASA openly asks them to move the camera back, the astronauts confirm, and you can watch the Earth shrink as they do so. The only person claiming they were still against the window when the lights come on is Bart himself.
He lied about the astronauts not knowing the camera was on, then muted the audio so you couldn't hear them openly discussing the picture quality the entire time it was supposedly "off".
If you actually watch the footage, can clearly see that the terminator line doesn't actually change an inch when the insert is "removed" so apparently it just poofs into thin air when the lights come on.
The trick DOESN'T WORK. If the astronauts were in orbit, we'd see the clouds and landmasses moving past the window because the minimum speed to stay in orbit is 17,000 miles per hour and the clips he used are long enough to cross entire oceans and continents.
Oh, and most damning, HE GOT CAUGHT skipping over shots of them filming WITHOUT HIS TRICK less than 20 seconds after clips he used. There's a reason he doesn't let people comment on his Youtube channel.
He didn't show them filming a close Earth. He simply claimed that a window with a blue glare was the Earth, then carefully compiled his version so you couldn't see any of the details that disproved him.
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Also, Bart harassed the astronauts to the point that they had to call the police because he was stalking them and sneaking around outside their houses. They have every reason to not want anything to do with him.
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@cisko77 Because Apollo cost 130 billion dollars, adjusted for inflation, and the technology used to do so is kind of a dead end.
Apollo used single-use spacecraft. This means you need a new ship and a new rocket every single launch, which is a massive pain and makes it impractical for long-term occupation.
That's why the Space Shuttle was developed - to test technology to make spaceflight cheaper, starting with the advent of reusable spacecraft.
Also, NASA's budget was slashed into the ground after Apollo once they'd served their purpose and it's currently half of what it was in the mid-60s (adjusted for inflation), with half of it dedicated to non-manned projects.
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They're currently in the middle of their return plans with the proposed date at 2025. I expect that the hoaxers will have videos "proving it's fake" because of complete nonsense before they even land.
Also, I don't know if you pay attention to politics, but after every election, the incoming president reorganizes NASA for whatever their own personal goals are. Trump tried to cancel Orion purely on a whim because one person at Fox complained about them wasting money on something they'd already done, then backtracked a few days later.
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@foxtrotthree569 Then explain to me, little man, why Bart lied about them "not knowing they were filming", then muted and dubbed over the audio to hide them openly discussing it.
Explain to me, little man, why Bart claimed they were pretending to be against the window while they were filming acorss the cabin, then removes a several minute section of film between the two where NASA asks them to prepare for interior shots, the astronauts acknowledge, and you can watch them move away from the window.
The only person claiming they were supposedly pressed against the window is Bart himself.
Explain to me, little man, why Bart has spent 20 years hiding the fact that within 15 seconds of clip he uses in A Funny Thing, the camera zooms out to show it sitting 1-2 feet from the square window, filming a small Earth outside with nothing on the window, then crosses the cabin to film out a different window.
Of course, none of this will make any sense to you. You're too drunk on your little games to see reality.
But but but but it must be true! A video on the internet said it was!
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Ahahahaha. Undeniable. That's a great one. I'm guessing Bart didn't tell you that his precious "smoking gun" got dissected ten years ago and that he got unmasked as a fraud because people weren't stupid and compared his version to NASA's.
Why does Bart lie and claim that the live scheduled broadcast was "footage recorded to be played back later"?
Why does Bart lie and claim that the astronauts were pretending to be against the window when they were actually filming across the cabin, and then not show the part MOMENTS LATER when NASA asks them to move the camera back, the astronauts acknowledge, and you can watch them do so. The only person claiming they were still against the window is Bart himself.
Why did Bart lie and claim that the astronauts didn't know they were filming, and then mute the audio so you couldn't hear them discussing the picture quality from the camera that they supposedly didn't know was on?
If the astronauts are actually removing the insert, why doesn't the image actually change while it's being removed? Apparently, whatever they're using for an "insert" poofs into thin air like a vampire in sunlight.
Why do the clouds and landmasses not change despite being in a vehicle moving at 17,000 miles per hour, almost 20 times the Earth's rotational speed? The clips he used are long enough that at the minimum speed to stay in orbit, they should have crossed between 1/8 and 1/6 of the entire planet and the altitude needed for geosynchronous orbit is INSIDE the very same Van Allen Belts that are supposed to be the entire reason for the hoax in the first place
If you want to see what this trick would actually look like, go put an insert on the side window of your car. You'll notice immediately that no amount of cropping will stop the features outside from changing as you move.
And most damning:
*** Why did Bart skip over a section of footage less than 20 after a clip he used where you can see them filming the Earth a foot from the square window WITHOUT HIS TRICK before moving to triangular one? A clip that happens BEFORE his big "smoking gun", might I add**
Undeniable my ass. To quote the Princess Bride: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
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..... You got duped pretty bad.
First of all Von Braun's collaboration with Disney was for a few segments on his TV show Wonderful World of Color. There is no evidence whatsoever that Disney had anything to do with Apollo, and no evidence that meeting up in the early 60s was anything other than discussing more TV show segments. Also, Disney died of lung cancer long before Apollo finished.
By the way, Walt himself was a massive patron of technology and progress that would probably have spat in your face if you asked him to fake the landings.
Second, the astronaut with the girl is Buzz Aldrin, who's still alive, and it was YOUR SIDE that cut the footage off. He continues talking about needing to know why they stopped to continue next time, blames it on money, and says they went several more times. The hoaxers, obviously, don't like that so they simply cut that out and don't show it. You can find the full interview here on Youtube.
Third, NASA was several years ahead of the Russians. The reason Russia didn't get to the moon was because they wasted all their time and effort trying to show that they were ahead of the Americans on everything (who were only about 4 months behind at the beginning and caught up quick) to the point that they neglected the N-1. By the time they started serious development on it, the Americans had been working on the Saturn V quietly in the background for almost 4 years. They then tried to rush development to make up for it and wound up with a piece of shit that blew up every time it launched.
Fourth, AHAHAHAHAHAHA, Bart doesn't know what the word "real" means. The bastard';s been caught lying about his evidence so many times that he had to shut off comments on his Youtube channel. Go ask him why he lies about his "faking the distance" video and edits out the parts of it that disprove him, such as the shot of them filming without his trick. Bet he immediately cuts all communication.
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..... okay, but even if you can land two men on the moon in an outhouse, that's not sufficient for mining. You need heavy machinery and heavy cargo transport ships capable of transporting mass goods and equipment. You are looking at hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars to set up the infrastructure for an entirely new industry, and are looking at tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars per launch in fuel and upkeep and if you cannot mine, refine, and transport these goods cheaper than producing them on Earth, you are literally throwing money away and will bankrupt yourself. A resource that costs more to obtain than it is worth is worthless.
Also, no offense, but we have a group in this country that doesn't give a damn how big of an ecological nightmare it is and would gladly remove every environmental protection in existence if they could. They're called "Republicans".
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@donjames6687 The hoaxers have been lying about the belts for twenty years. Those claims about needing "six inches/feet of lead"? They're pure fiction. We know that it's BS because they're the wrong type of radiation for lead. The belts are alpha and beta radiation, not x and gamma rays, and beta radiation requires low-density shielding because CREATES x-rays when exposed to heavy metals.
That same process (called Bremsstrahlung) is how your hospital creates their x-rays in the first place. And this isn't the only lie they've told either.
The whining about the belts is pure white noise now. Your "truth" movement has already proven they don't know what they're doing or don't care being honest about it, and people stop listening when you cry wolf.
By the way, James Van Allen, the man that discovered them, roasted the hoaxers in the early 2000s and outright stated they were making a mountain out of a molehill on a subject they had zero competence or understanding in. So..... I'd probably be better listening to him than random people on the internet.
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I've seen a lot of people go on and on about phones and calculators. Never, not one single time, have I seen a hoaxer even attempt to calculate what would be NEEDED, and certainly not while taking into account that the Apollo calculations were performed on mainframes on Earth, not the shipboard computer. They also don't mention that we were landing probes on the moon and sending them on flybys of Venus 30 million miles away without a pilot with even worse computers.
It really comes off more as whining by people that are spoiled by modern technology than an actual serious analysis.
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... but Apollo 13 a fucking stupid idea to fake, not to mention that you people already lie and claim it went smooth, talking about Apollo 13 as little as possible.
First of all, the claim that it was to "increase attention to steal more money" is pure grade A Angus bullshit. The missions are already budgeted in advance - you are not getting new money from this attention - and all you did was convince Congress to shut it down sooner so good job morons, you didn't actually steal jack shit and accomplished nothing but stopping your own hoax.
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Second, pulling off the hoax is going to be like pulling teeth. YOUR OWN SIDE claims that only a few people within NASA know that it's a fake, and now you are now in a situation where the people that are NOT part of your hoax are tasked with coming up with solutions. You have no control over what they come up with, or when, and whether this matches any sort of pre-generated data you come up with, and trying to formulate this on the simulators live (which you can't because they're in use), you have no guarantee your hastily concocted data will hold up to scrutiny.
You've just taken this elaborate hoax and turned it into the All American Cat Herding Rodeo. Think fast!
Also, this is really stupid to do because if they ever have a legitimate emergency and they try and look at your hoax for solutions, you just killed your astronauts for real.
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Third, I hope you have one hell of a plan for what you're going to do AFTER the mission because the instant they splash down, there is going to be an investigation. In case you're too drunk on ego to realize what this means, it means that people that are NOT part of your hoax are going to be going through your shit with a fine-toothed comb.
Congratulations. You just willingly blew your own hoax open for the shortest of short-term gain.
So no, I don't believe for one second that you actually thought about it beyond the most basic surface-level thoughts.
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@MinusEighty They didn't. Bart found a clip of the window briefly appearing blue as the light levels adjusted, CLAIMED it was the nearby Earth, pulled some dishonest editing and you believed him without question.
You realize that Bart's trick doesn't even work, right? He's still pushing the "Round window to pretend to be the Earth garbage" right?
A ship in orbit needs to ORBIT the planet, as in fly around it, and the MINIMUM speed to do this is about 17,000 miles per hour, fast enough to circle the entire planet in about an hour and a half.
The clips Bart used to make his video have the astronauts filming the Earth uninterrupted for about 12-15 minutes long each. That's long enough to cross between 1/8 and 1/6 of the entire planet.
If the astronauts were actually in orbit, why do the clouds and landmasses not change over this period even they would have crossed entire oceans or continents during that time?
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Bart also repeatedly lied about what the astronauts were doing, and there are videos he refuses to show of them filming the Earth without his trick. I'll dig them up later when it's not 3 AM if you want to see it. Bart will never, ever let you watch them for yourself.
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Okay, you know how Hollywood used to make lots and lots of Westerns and now it's all bad action movies? Well, in the late 50s there was a movie called The Manchurian Candidate about China attempting to plant a spy in charge of the country. Great movie, Angela Lansbury's a great villain. Go watch it
Well, after that, and with real life events fueling it, there was about a twenty year period where every man and his brother were creating conspiracy thrillers on everything they could come up with. This ranges from movies based on true events like the corruption of the NYPD to fictional assassination attempts on real people, to even more fictional conspiracies on JFK being killed by elite businessmen, to ones that were made up completely.
Fun fact, there was a movie called The China Syndrome about a coverup at a nuclear power plant. It flopped, through no fault of its, because just two weeks after it came out, the plant at Three Mile Island went critical.
By the way, you realize that if it was faked, the movie wouldn't have been made right? NASA helped make it to the point of lending their very own training props when the movie ran out of budget.
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The silver foil is called Mylar. It is, among many, many other things, used to make hypothermia blankets, portable shelters for wilderness emergency workers that have to hunker down in the middle of a forest fire, and three thousand degree proximity suits. The gold foil is called Kapton. Kapton is used to make insulation for cryogenics equipment.
They are also used on satellites too. Just saying.
Also, you do realize in the "flag blowing in the wind" clips, the astronauts are TOUCHING the flag at the time, right? Those clips are during, or immediately after, periods where the astronauts are swinging it about by the pole.
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@sudomyju5017 Okay.
In order to maintain their "first in everything" status, Russia deliberately put their cosmonauts in danger and made slapdash modifications to their ships to get "firsts" before the Americans launched their new ships intended to do it properly. So if the Americans weren't willing to take risks, the Soviets would have done so without blinking.
The reality is: your "truth" movement exaggerates the rate of failure and they don't want you to think about the fact that people will take what they believe to be acceptable risks.
Besides, if they land, take two steps, and keel over, then the US still gets first on the moon, and the astronauts were almost exclusively taken from professional test pilots, people that went to work knowing they could die. It wouldn't have been hard to find a crew willing to have "I Win" written on their tombstones.
By the way, network broadcast has an intentional delay of about 7-10 seconds to give the studio time to cut the feed if anything goes wrong. If something happened, they feed would have been cut and Nixon had already prepared a speech for the case of failure.
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1000 miles per hour on a sphere 24,000 miles in circumference is 15 degrees per hour, or .25 degrees per minute. You would need a time lapse to actually see that. Remember: it only turns once per day.
Actually, this proves that Bart's lying. The speed to stay in orbit is 17,000 miles per hour (you need to be moving at least this speed or your ship will come back down), fast enough to circle the planet in about an hour and a half, and the clips he's using are 12-15 minutes long each. if the astronauts were in orbit, they would have crossed between 1/8th and 1/6th of the planet during those raw clips (which have been freely accessible for years) and we should have seen entire oceans or continents pass by the window. We'd only need a few minutes to see completely different features and he clips out longer than that, and yet barely anything happens.
And no, you can't pull this "cropping the Earth" trick off in an aircraft either. You'd be close enough to the features you're filming that they'd be changing every few seconds.
Either the astronauts are far enough away to be in geosynchronous orbit, which requires them to be able to cross the radiation belts that are supposedly the entire reason for the hoax in the first place, or that is not the Earth. Either way, Bart's wrong.
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1. ...... you don't even get your own side's claims right. The claim is that the flag's waving in the wind despite no air, not no gravity. The "waving" flag clips they show are after the astronauts have been TOUCHING the flag with their hands, swinging the pole around, and the flag has a rod through the top to keep it extended. It's "waving" about as much as my shower curtain.
2. Um.... no? The largest telescopes on the planet can barely make out an object the size of a football field at that distance. They wouldn't even register an object as small a flag as a single dot.
I would like to remind you that when the LRO took photographs of the site that had closer detail (because they were taken from lunar orbit), you immediately called them fake too.
3. No, those "strings" are the antennae that's on the back of the pack. by the way, if the astronauts were on wires, the two astronauts would spent half of the mission tangled together because the instant one walks around the other, the wires will wrap together. Also, wires don't affect the dust or any other moving objects, like that time the one astronaut trips over one of the experiments, breaks it, and decides to spontaneously chuck it.
4. Fun fact: Hoax author David Percy (the owner of Aulis, your #1 website) got caught cropping his "non-parallel shadows" pictures to remove sections where you could see the shadows bending on the ground to match the other object. "Photographic Expert" Jack White put his comparison lines directly on top of those same details in order to hide them.
5. If I had a nickle for every hoaxer that claimed to have relatives that worked for NASA or who claimed to have met the astronauts and didn't, I'd have enough to send a kid to college.
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Ahahahahaha, Hero.... that's a good one
Bart's a fraud. He got caught red-handed faking his evidence more than ten years ago and had to shut off the comments on his channel because he got called out for it.
Bart hasn't risked a damn thing other than getting his teeth knocked out for stalking. He literally had to make up his fake kidnapping stories because people were starting to ask "if you were actually telling the truth, why didn't the government kill you twenty years ago", and like a good little sheep, you bought it hook, line, and sinker.
Oh, and by the way, you do realize that the Russian guy is lying because he hates the US and is trying to drag everybody down because he got fired for massive incompetence right? Oh, and just for reference, that video of them walking into the press conference? That's a month after they got back.
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@carlosvillalta9974 Carlos.... just so that you're aware, you're probably not looking at actual satellite pictures The close-up pictures on Google Earth for example are stills taken by airplanes and are refreshed months or years at a time.
And you do realize that if they were able to see your dog from a satellite, that could be the absolute limit of what they have the technology for right? That size detail I mentioned? Using modern telescope technology, you would need it to be hundreds of feet across. You can disbelieve this all you want, but the reality is that NASA builds their stuff through science, not wishing on a genie's lamp.
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Because Apollo cost about 130 billion dollars that nobody wants to pay for, and the technology used to do so is a dead end. You do realize that nobody wants to continue Apollo-era missions because the rocket is SINGLE USE right? You need an entirely new rocket and entirely new ship Every. Single. Launch. This is not suited for long-term exploration.
That's why the current plans are trying to pioneer landing with REUSABLE rockets.
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Also, Mars ranges between 34 million miles from Earth and 250 million miles from earth, 100 - 1000 times farther away than the moon.
A round-trip flight to Mars, assuming you are bringing them back and not sending volunteers on a suicide mission, would take two years, not two weeks like the Moon.
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The hoaxers aren't very honest.
First of all, telemetry isn't the data to go to the moon. It's the data you get FROM the moon - the readout of the instruments during your mission. Even if you don't have this, there's nothing stopping you from making a blind flight or gathering new information from a probe first. Which they'd do when testing the ship anyways.
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The "destroyed" technology is most likely referring to the physical equipment. The factories and equipment for building and testing your ship would have been recycled, dismantled and repurposed decades ago, the training equipment would have been decommissioned after the missions were over so you have no pilots, and we know for a fact that NASA tore up the launch tower 40 years ago to reuse the land for the space shuttle.
You can have all of the knowledge, navigational data, and blueprints in the universe and unless you have a physical ship, a crew trained to use it, and a launch facility set up to use it, you do not move five feet.
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The issue with the belts isn't radiation poisoning. They're explicitly talking about computers. Apollo used magnetic core memory, an archaic hardware type that's extremely resistant to radiation and EMPS, but which isn't used anymore because integrated circuits are faster and cheaper to produce. Integrated circuits used in modern computers are very susceptible and get weaker every generation because the smaller you make your parts, the easier it becomes for them to be damaged and corrupted. Creating radiation hardened equipment is difficult, expensive, and slow enough that your parts are outdated by the time they are made.
Also, that "recently" was ten years ago and it was specifically hyping up a test (that was successful) a month later. They're hyping for marketing, not admitting "this is something that's a major problem we can't solve."
This isn't the answer the hoaxers want you to hear and they get very mad about it.
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@jollygreen9377 For starters, his "faking the distance" is bullshit.
First of all, the trick doesn't work. The minimum speed to stay in orbit is 17,000 miles per hour. If the astronauts were actually in orbit, the clouds would be moving past the window at noticeable speed and the raw clips are long enough that the ship would have crossed entire oceans or continents.
Second, he's lying through his teeth and he knows it.
Bart's version of that footage is conveniently edited to mute audio and skip over sections of it that disproved it. This includes the astronauts openly discussing the picture quality they "don't know is filming", moving the camera away from the window, and filming shots of the Earth WITHOUT his trick.
He was confronted about this more than ten years ago. That, and "I would have punched you too", are why he doesn't let people comment on his channel.
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By the way, his kidnapping story is pure fiction. It's a complete fabrication made to scam money out of gullible people so they don't question "If you're telling the truth, why are you still alive?" Kaysing did the same thing.
The "wax him" was one of the astronauts' children trash talking him after he got into their house by lying about his identity and refused to leave when told to get out.
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@beaman444 The farther away an object is, the less it changes as you move. A mountain 10-15 miles away isn't going to change a whole lot if you move a few hundred feet. Overlapping the pictures (as opposed to simply showing them side-by-side) shows they're not exact, by the way.
I grew up with a mountain looming out my bedroom window. It looked the same from basically everywhere in the neighborhood.
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The "problem they still have to solve" isn't radiation poisoning. it's damage to the ELECTRONICS that run this ship (which is explicitly mentioned in the video). Modern computers are weaker to radiation; it's one of the side effects of circuit miniaturization, and this gets worse the smaller and more compact your components get. The hoaxers really, really don't like it when you point this out.
It doesn't matter if your astronauts get sick or not if the ship crashes because stuff stopped working.
Also, that video was a hype video to promote their upcoming test a month or so later. It's most likely exaggerating a bit to make their shit seem more important to people that are likely not well-versed. That was several years ago. The test already happened almost a decade ago.
Just as a correction, the astronauts wouldn't have traveled through the belts in the LEM. With the possible exception of Apollo 13's return trip, they would have been in the Command Module, which is much thicker.
Incidentally, Jack Swigert of Apollo 13 died of nose cancer that spread to his marrow a few years later.
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Oh and by the way, anybody that claims they would need to have lead shielding is lying. Straight up lying, don't bother listening to them.
The Belts are beta radiation, which requires low-density materials such as aluminum, plastic, and acrylic glass because it creates secondary radiation when it hits heavy metals - meaning using lead shielding is suicidal. This process is called bremsstrahlung if you want to look it up, and same process is how your dentist creates their x-rays to begin with.
An x-ray machine creates its x-rays by accelerating loose electrons at a piece of metal.
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@davidpaulk5658 Well, for starters, his "faking the distance" video is pure bs. Not only does his trick not work (if they were actually in orbit, the clouds and landmasses would be visually moving), he GOT CAUGHT editing the footage to deliberately remove sections of it that disproved him because people weren't' stupid and checked his vs NASA's.
This includes shots of them filming without his trick within seconds of clips he used. There's a reason he doesn't let people comment on his Youtube channel.
The "whack him" is nothing more than juvenile smack talk. He forged credentials from either Discovery or History channel to get into.... I think it was Edgar Mitchell's house. After Mitchell swore on his bible and told him to get out, Bart refused, trying to goad him with "I'll hit you so you can sue me" until Mitchell gave him the literal boot.
As he left, one of Mitchell's family members came out and started sarcastically mocking him.
Come on, the CIA knows where he lives, where he works, and whether he squeezes the middle or end of his toothpaste. If they were going to do anything about Mr Fake Jason Bourne there, they'd have done so 20 years ago.
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@wittkrieg The Earth would be much smaller than the window, which is what we see. The "earth shine" is just glare, either tinted by the bright blue Earth, or it's being tinted by the coating on the window for the UV and IR protection. A few seconds later, once the camera is fully adjusted, the window's pure white, as are all of the other windows on the ship (including the ones facing away), and stay that way for the next twenty minutes.
Fun fact, this took place AFTER another sequence where the camera zooms out and shows a small Earth outside - no trick. If they were "pretending to be in orbit", then they left Earth, filmed the other footage, then came back.
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Also, by the way, Bart's trick doesn't actually work. The minimum speed to stay in orbit is over 17,000 miles per hour, and the clips he used are 12-15 minutes each. If the astronauts were in orbit, the astronauts would crossed between 1/8 and 1/6 of the entire - far enough to completely cross oceans or continents - and the visible features would have completely changed. You wouldn't be able to maintain the illusion for more than a minute.
Either the astronauts are far enough away to be in geosynchronous orbit - which means crossing the very belts that are the entire reason for the hoax in the first place - or that is not the Earth. Either way, Bart's wrong.
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