Comments by "Kevin Skinner" (@kevinskinner4986) on "3 scientists school flat Earthers on the evidence | Neil deGrasse Tyson, Bill Nye, Michelle Thaller" video.

  1. Hence why no amount of facts and logic will ever bring a conspiracy theorist back to reality, no matter how many times their 'truth movement' gets caught outright lying.
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  2. "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." But the manchineel tree's fruit, which looks like an apple, is highly toxic and will burn a hole straight through your like battery acid. So, God's either a liar or a sadist
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  3. I hate to break it to you, but Dubay's firmly in the Mantras For Money camp himself. His work is garbage. You can say something in a way that sounds logical all you want, but that doesn't make it true. In reality, on top of largely being plagiarized from other sources, including a man who dropped out of school at the age of 9, it mostly falls apart if you put any sort of pressure on it. I remember when he put out a 10,000 challenge (note that these anti-science challenges are ALWAYS rigged) to prove the Earth was round, in which he promised that he would give detailed responses to would be claimers. He instead gave one-line links to his other videos, which had already been contested, and made up claims such as, and I quote "You can't learn anything about the shape of the ground beneath your feet by looking at the sky." By the way, this immeidately invalidates all Flat Earth claims about polaris and constellations not moving. I remember watching his "Lighthouse curvature distance" video and the first thing that crossed my mind was that not one single time did he provide any evidence that they were ACTUALLY VISIBLE at those distances. He could have made it up and nobody would have questioned him. I remember skimming through his "moon hoax" video and thinking "This is the same list of debunked garbage that every other hoax video has made and which has been disproved for 20 years. Is there not an original thought in his head?" Here's a good reading of how committed Dubay is to the truth: has he published a public list of all of the "proofs" from his "200" proofs that are false or need to be clarified? Surely he's at least removed the unproven hearsay, the "Bla Blah Conspiracy Blah Blah Jews Are Evil" rants, the "no curvature" photograph that got caught cropping out that curvature shown in the original, and the "Faking the distance to the Moon" considering that the original creator of that, Bart Sibrel, is a con artist and got caught red-handed lying about it ten years ago (and which if true, immediately disproves Flat Earth because the claim is that the astronauts were faking the distance from orbit.)
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  4. Well, YOUR movement is devoted to cult worship a Hitler-worshiping yoga teacher that just blatantly copies a man that dropped out of school at the age of 9.
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  5. My moving through them quickly to minimize exposure time, and travelling through areas where the belts are lesser with some shielding on the ship. Why are the hoaxers so desperate to claim that the belts are the "ultimate problem" that they have repeatedly lied about them?
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  6. Bill Nye has a degree in Mechanical Engineering. That's still a better qualification than YOUR side boasts. Meanwhile, Samuel Rowbowtham dropped out of school at the age of 9. One of his students was thrown in prison for threatening to murder people for debunking Rowbowtham's claims. Eric Dubay is yoga teacher who keeps getting his channel banned because for wanting to suck Hitler's salty sausage. One of the big Flat Earth youtuber's lives in a van and his "qualification" is owning a labcoat. Your big "commercial pilot" I can't remember the name of hasn't had a license in fifty years. So yeah, we shouldn't listen to NASA. Hobos, frauds, Nazis, elementary school dropouts and murderers, that's who we should really listen to.
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  7. Isn't that movie narrated by Eric Dubay? If I didn't deserve to be decieved, why the flying fuck would I listen to anything by that con artist?
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  8. Which is why a conspiracy theorist can almost never be brought back to reality.
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  9. Just be warned that if you yourself go around lying about people and accusing them of false crimes and it turns out that you're wrong, God's going to put you inside another certain box if you know what I mean.
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  10.  @science9329  The word "horizon" has nothing to do with being flat. It's based on the greek root "horos" meaning "boundary", not Flat. Horizontal means "Of the horizon" (-al means of). The flat definition is a slang that overtook its original usage. You could have looked this up at any time, but you'll just fib and continue to claim your "Horizon means flat" because Flat Earthers are a movement so dishonest that they'll lie to seize even the smallest victory, no matter how petty.
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  11.  @yazzamx6380  I'm not entirely convinced that some of the Flat Earthers aren't secretly employees of Nikon.
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  12.  @ljbrizo  Um.... calling Dubay a Nazi isn't a name calling. It's a FACT. He's gotten his channel removed multiple times for antisemitism.
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  13.  @flatearth5821  Um.... the Flat Earth map is explicitly NOT able to be used for navigation in the Southern Hemisphere. It tries to match longitude resulting in gross sideways stretching south of the equator because on a flat circle, longitude would continue to get farther apart the farther south you go, while on a sphere, they would get closer together once you cross the equator. This is why on the Flat Earth map, Australia is double its actual size.
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  14. Compared to grade school dropout Rowbowtham and plagiarist yoga teacher Nazi Dubay...
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  15. Objects in low orbit need to travel really fast otherwise they'll fall back to earth and burn up. It's over 17,000 miles per hour, fast enough to circle the planet in a bit over an hour and a half.
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  16. It takes less than thirty seconds to find videos where they "bring back" a small boat, try and zoom in on even farther boat with only its mast visible and FAIL to bring it back even after going to maximum zoom.
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  17.  @caf7798  When you meet God, ask him why he lied in Genesis about giving all fruit-bearing trees to man to eat after creating the manchineel, whose fruit (and every other part of it) is highly poisonous and will eat through you like battery acid.
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  18. In Genesis 1:29, God claims to have given all-fruit bearing trees to man to be used as food, so then why are there highly poisonous ones like the manchineel that will eat your flesh like acid? He just releases man into the world not realizing he set a booby trap for them. Genesis 1 proves that God is a liar and a sadist.
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  19. As a reminder, multiple of your major Flat Earth Youtubers died of covid last year after claiming it didn't exist. Rob Skiba is probably having a chat with his lord about what it means to lie in the name of God.
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  20. Michael, if you repeatedly post comments in a short period of time, especially if they contain links, Youtube will automatically mark your comments as spam. It's hilarious that you're complaining about "freedom of speech" while promoting Eric Dubay considering that Eric actively bans anybody that tries to call him out on his lies.
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  21.  @denzilesau5298  You mean the one that was debunked 10 years ago when Sibrel got caught blatantly lying and editing the footage and removing sections that disproved him, including shots that cannot physically be performed by the trick he claims was used, because he was stupid enough to think that nobody would check? Also, considering ath Sibrel's video is still there, dozens of other hoax videos have Sibrel's claim in it including Eric Dubay himself, and the FULL video he used has been on Youtube for about 10 years, you sir are lying when you claim it was "conveniently removed". But hey, what is a Flat Earther if not dishonest. By the way, you do realize that if Sibrel's correct, that instantly debunks Flat Earth because they're supposed to be in ORBIT right?
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  22. Why should you trust the church?
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  23. Your "bringing back" only works if it's too small to see, but in front of the curve. It takes less than 30 seconds to find videos where they "bring back" boats, try and zoom in on even farther boats that are half hidden, and FAIL to bring them all the way back even after doubling or tripling the zoom.. The instant that any of it is actually hidden, you can zoom in until you see the scratches on the hull and the water line won't change. Your Flat Earth leaders know these videos exist. Why do they deliberately hide them from you?
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  24. Wanna hear an even bigger joke? Your movement is based on the work of a man that dropped out of school at the age of 9.
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  25. Still more qualified than the Flat Earthers, whose champion is a yoga teacher who plagiarized off somebody that dropped out of school at 9.
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  26. Except that the Flat Earthers would lie and claim the picture was CGI even if it was real.
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  27.  @SilkyJohnson7  And conspiracy theorists have it in spades. We have side-by-side comparisons of your leaders lying about their evidence and manipulating their footage and even after being shown this over, and over, and over, you people still repeat their claims and still trust them and still believe every word that comes out of their mouths and anybody that says otherwise is a "brainwashed propagandist sheeple shill." "But but but but but but it must be true! A video on the internet told me it was!"
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  28.  @wayneshipman7406  So, have you noticed that the actual light patterns created by the "race car" sun is batshit on a sandwich?
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  29. It's actually not, but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
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  30. Does Dubay actually debate anybody? From what I've heard, he refuses all challenges for debate which if true kind of makes him the coward. I remember his "10000 dollar challenge" a few years ago being a massive joke. He promised "detailed explanations of why claim attempts were wrong" and then resorted to one-line links to videos that were already debunked and made up bogus excuses such as, and I quote: "You can't learn anything about the shape of the Earth beneath your feet by looking up at the sky" (in response to the paradox of the Southern Celestial Pole) when challenged on things outside of the one single thread of logic he was prepared to speak on. By the way, this means you can't use crepuscular rays or "polaris doesn't move". Your high priest has spoken. Also, most people typically try to avoid associating with Nazi supporters.
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  31. Flat Earth violates the same law and doesn't have gravity as a counteracting force . The Earth has a pressure gradient that falls to 1/3 pressure by the height of Mt Everest, and less than 1% by 100 miles high, and yet your dome is somewhere between 200 and 3,000 miles high. Under the very same law, all of that gas that's clustered near the ground should expand to equalize pressure inside your container..... and it doesn't. Your Flat Earth leaders are hiding that you should have died 6,000 years ago.
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  32. Okay, and the top Flat Earthers are even bigger cowards. There are people banging their doors down trying to debate them, and they hide in their circle jerk banning people that dare call them out for not only being wrong, but using falsified evidence.
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  33. J S..... if the sun were 65-70 miles above you, then according to the most basic applications of trigonometry, it would be less than 5 degrees (three finger widths at arm's lenght) above the horizon from anybody more than a thousand miles from it.
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  34. I find it very interesting that you called Copernicus the "First mason" when the oldest surviving Mason manuscripts predate him by a hundred years, and furthermore Copernicus is not a member of the craft the fraternity originated from (masons are people that work with stone). I guess he hung around with The Doctor? Not sure which one, maybe The First Doctor? That'd be fitting huh?
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  35. It's really funny that you claim "They can't debate it" while promoting Level, a pack of lies made by a person that refuses to debate and routinely blacklists people when he gets called out for lying.
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  36. ​ @flawlesscarlo  You've never taken a day of college level science, have you? An object launched from another moving object travels at the COMBINED speeds in three dimensions. It does not magically lose its forward momentum when you launch it in a different direction and this has been tested a million times with every human vehicle more complex than a fucking unicycle. This has nothing to do with allies or influence or gravity, or anything. This is momentum and inertia and it's on the midterm of freshman physics. That's why you can jump inside a train without being splattered like a bug on a windshield as the vehicle moves beneath your feet. That's why bombs continue moving forward when dropped from an airplane despite the airplane having no more influence whatsoever over it. That's why a ball shot backwards from a car at the same speed that the car moves falls straight down.
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  37. Tell Dubay to come here and challenge himself instead of hiding in his safe space with his pants stained yellow refusing debates and deleting the comments of anybody taht calls him out.
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  38. "Show one example of a low pressure being next to a high pretty ssure system without a container and the two systems not equalizing. "" So, would you care to explain why the atmosphere doesn't equalize on Flat Earth and why the pressure gradient reaches near vacuum hundreds or thousands of miles below the altitude your own side claims the dome is at?
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  39.  @lookn4heal  ..... you don't get it, do you? The air pressure is concentrated on the ground, and lessons with altitude. By 100 miles high, it's basically non-existant but your dome is somewhere between 200 and 3000 miles high based on "the height of the atomic bombs to break through" and "the height of the sun" respectively. That's over 100 miles with basically nothing in it. Your dome is mostly empty. Explain why it does not equalize inside it.
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  40.  @lookn4heal  Just making sure, you know that we can send barometers up to get measurements at different altitudes, right? Are you claiming that every single measurement ever taken is lying? Pretending that a problem doesn't exist doesn't make it go away, dude.
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  41.  @lookn4heal  Yes, and? Are you claiming that those instrument measurements are lying, yes or no? And by the way, it's YOUR imaginary 3,000 miles. That's the height your fellow Flat Earthers claim the sun is based on crepuscular rays because they can't do math and ignore the fact that parallel lines converge as they move away from you.
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  42.  @lookn4heal  Oh look, aother Flat Earth running away with their pant soaked because they can't answer.
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  43. William, Youtube has a spam filter. If you post too frequently, your comments will automatically be marked as spam and removed.
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  44.  @edwardclancy8336  I'd bet 3 bitcoins he bans anybody that is able to claim it.
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  45. ​ @edwardclancy8336  No offense, but your own model has holes far more damning than "seeing too far". (Your side also kind of frequently doesn't do the math properly on so that drastically reduces any impact this "proof" has) Flat Earth would require me to willingly ignore objects being 20,000 miles in opposite directions at the same time on multiple axes. That's what happens when the observed and recorded motion of the stars is drawn on YOUR map. I've seen the excuses that have been made for them, and they're basically throwing shit at a wall and calling anybody that isn't impressed a propagandist shill when they point out it doesn't stick. Unlike David, I am not a dishonest enough to ignore a blatant paradox.
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  46. The Flat Earthers worship a man that has zero formal education at all. Their hero Samuel Rowbotham dropped out of school at the age of 9.
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  47. Compared to what, the disk where the sun can be seen rising and setting 40 degrees in the wrong direction and yet the crepuscular rays are assumed to be straight for calculating the sun's position, and the stars are magically 20,000 miles in opposite directions at the same time?
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  48. You should have asked them how it's possible that electromagnetism holds both iron and humans down, since the human body is diamagnetic and moves in the opposite direction that iron does in a magnetic field.
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  49.  @flatearth5821  First of all, Eric Dubay is notorious for using sketchy, unsubstantiated claims and hearsay as "proof" and using the work of proven frauds such as Bart Sibrel, then banning anybody that calls him out on it. He has zero credibility. Okay, so Australia has an airline called Qantas that, in addition to flying across the ocean to LA and Santiago and such (which creates more problems), makes daily flights between Syndey on the east coast and Perth on the west coast. These flights take about 4 1/2 hours. If Australia were the size it appears on YOUR map, the flight would need to take about 10-12 hours making the deception impossible to hide. And no, you can't just fly faster, because supersonic airplanes have a completely different appearance to everyday 787s AND make a loud BANG when they cross 767 mph, the speed of sound. Furthermore, anybody driving between those two cities would certainly notice because it would take far, far longer than it should and cars have a device called an odometer that measures how far you drive. The trucking industry will notice immediately because they log their milage. Sorry, I suspect your "railroad measurer" is either bad at math or lying. -------------- Also, Australia has another problem in that it can see the Southern celestial pole, which circles around a point in the sky due south of every location in the hemisphere simultaneously. When you try and draw the movement of the stars in the Southern Hemisphere on YOUR map, it creates a a paradox where objects are in multiple places at the same time and moving in an impossible geometry direction that would make M.C. Escher cream his pants. Maybe you should decontaminate yourself from your brainwashing and keep an open mind to the possibility that your "truth" movement is a fraud.
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  50.  @workingclassbear6523  The stars in the Southern Hemisphere move in a direction that when drawn on the Flat Earth map creates a paradox.
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  51. Next time you take a flight, pay a bit extra for a window seat, then when you take off, observe just how far away you can actually see the cars below you.
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  52. Just a head's up as a word of advice, you should take anything the hoaxers say about how "deadly" the Van Allen Belt are with a massive grain of salt. They haven't exactly proven themselves to be educated or honest on the matter and blatantly lied about the Belts when they made up their claims about needing "six feet of lead to cross the Van Allen Belts" - despite being the wrong type of radiation for lead. Fun fact, James Van Allen, the man that discovered the Belts, watched some of the hoax videos in the early 2000s and flat-out said that the hoaxers had no clue what the hell they were going on about. As far as the phone call, Nixon and NASA have no delay because the recording is on their end and it doesn't take a delay to record your own side of the conversation. The astronauts only respond to Nixon twice - once with 8 seconds of pause and once with 4; roundtrip, the delay would be less than 3 seconds and if you watch the hour-long clips from the various missions, you can frequently hear the astronauts talking over Mission Control as if they aren't hearing them in real time.
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  53. Question. You do realize that because a railgun is a projectile weapon, it is physically incapable of shooting in a straight line, right? How exactly is it "impossible" when you arc a projectile over an object?
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  54. Eric Dubay won't debate Flat Earth either. He picked one fight with a person he knew wouldn't actually take him up, got Joe Rogan to schedule without his permission so he could claim victory, and bans anybody that tries to challenge him after that because he's too pants-wetting afraid to risk his perfect record of "By Default."
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  55. ..... wait, how can the Earth be flat with a firmament when Nikola Tesla tried to search for life on Mars? YOU said that he was right about everything.
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  56. If there is a creator, there's no guarantee that it's anything like the Christian God. Whatever being out there could be completely alien to us and all of the Earthly religions claiming to te the "one true faith" could all be uselessly praying into the void for the attention of a being so far beyond you that he doesn't care about humanity at all and has never once contacted us.
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  57. Flat Earth requires pretending that half the planet doesn't exist to even baseline function. Did your leaders tell you about the lovely little paradox where drawing the motion of the stars in the Southern Hemisphere on YOUR map results in objects being in multiple places at the same time? Bet they hid that from you. For your own good, after all. You wouldn't want to be burdened by truth.
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  58. It's hilarious that you call Neil a coward while telling him to debate Eric Dubay, a man notorious for deleting comments and banning people who try and debate him from posting on his channel. I feel sorry for your daughter.
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  59. Even on a Flat Earth, there's nothing past Antarctica of any real value unless you like bio luminescent sea life. You're too far away from the the sun's overhead path that you will be in permanent 24/7 nighttime, so no plant life will grow expect maybe moss or fungi. There will be no inland animals, and nobody is going to have a civilization in a place with no food. I don't really think anybody in power has much reason to hide hundreds of miles of barren empty tundra.
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  60.  @denzilesau5298  Oh, by the way, the person conveniently removing Sibrel's footage isn't the govenrment. It's Sibrel himself taking down all of the other copies because he's a greedy bastard and wants all of the Youtube click money for himself. I have a screenshot somewhere on one of my old drives where I caught him doing it while refreshing the comment section on a video.
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  61. The Flat Earth "Law of Perspective" doesn't exist. It's made up. t's basically magic that the hoaxers throw around to handwave away stuff without actually explaining it. The real "law of perspective" is that parallel lines converge with distance, by the way. You know, that thing that the hoaxers deliberately ignore when talking about crepuscular rays.
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  62. Flat Earthers Level video was made by a yoga teacher, a tatooo artist, and a man that drinks urine.
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  63. "ºIf the Earth was spinning then all the oceans would be drawn towards the equator and then flung out into space." Really? You do realize that we know exactly how liquids respond when stuck to a spinning ball because we have magnetic liquids, right? They won't fly off if the attracting force is stronger. "ºIf the Earth was a ball then we wouldn’t be able to see the Statue of Liberty standing 326 feet above sea level from 60 miles away. " You know, I've heard this claim a lot. Never once have I seen the evidence that it's ACTUALLY VISIBLE at that distance. Who made this observation and how did they measure the distance? Bet you can't tell us. Your leaders could have made up the distance and you wouldn't have questioned it. ºIf the Earth was traversing space then we couldn't have constellations. The stars would be chaotic, there would always be new ones and never familiar ones." Marching bands are a hoax. If 100 brass players walked for an hour, they'd be scattered in seconds.
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  64. How? The Flat Earthers will just claim anything they don't want to acknowledge is CGI.
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  65. Ahahahahahahahahaahaha. Oh wait, you're serious. Dubay couldn't defend his own "$10,000 challenge" (which was rigged as all of these challenges are) without blatantly lying and making up excuses such as, and I quote "You can't learn anything about the shape of the ground beneath your feet by looking at the sky." Which, by the way, means you can't use any of the "proofs" about how Polaris and the constellations don't move unless you want to call Dubay a liar.
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  66. But truthers would need to actually tell the truth first. Who's going to save us from your lies?
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  67. Here's a scary thought for you: you realize that crazy people vote right?
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  68.  @T-REX72  Congratulations, you can do basic math! And how many votes do a million rabid conspiracy nutters get?
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  69. Every time the likes of Eric Dubay and Dirth promote con artists like Bart Sibrel, lie about their evidence, and silence people that would dare question them and call them out on the the truth , Satan inflates a balloon for his great Welcome Party and congratulations, you're invited. "Good Christians" are such easy targets. Convince them they're doing God's work and fighting the devil and they'll believe any lie you tell them.
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  70.  @chrisnepoose1668  You'll have to prove it to God when he asks why he shouldn't throw you into hell with the rest of the liars and false accusers, so you might as well start practicing now.
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  71. Go ask your friend Eric Dubay why the stars in the Southern Hemisphere are in opposite directions at the same time.When he was asked this on his "10,000 dollar challenge", he responded with, and I quote "You can't learn anything about the shape of the ground beneath your feat Then ask him to explain how Polaris proves Flat Earth. If he says anything but the exact same thing, call him out for lying and hypocrisy. Bet the coward instantly bans you.
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  72.  @platygaia5303  Please explain why the atmosphere doesn't expand to fill your firmament and why you have a near-vacuum next to an atmosphere INSIDE your container and why not one of you, not a single one, has the balls to ever acknowledge this question. Explain why Flat Earth disobeys the very same gas laws. You don't have gravity to use as an excuse.
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  73.  @platygaia5303  You realize that your side's promotion of Michelson-Morley is a blatant lie, right? Michelson-Morley DIDN'T TRY to find evidence of the Earth's movement. It was a test to find luminiferous aether, a magical gas-energy from the 1800s used for light propagation, and failed to find it. The Flat Earther took the experiment, claimed that Aether existed, and used that to "disprove" the foundations that the actual test were supposedly based on. Aether was already falling out of favor before Einstein came along, by the way. Why is it impossible? Your "impossible" claim makes the assumption that the movement is random. However, if the other stars are moving the same speed and direction as us, they will stay in place forever. You have, of course, seen soldiers or marching bands in formation, right? If the stars are in a pattern your "impossible" goes straight out the window Furthermore, do you know what parallax is? It's the difference in position caused by moving positions. The thing about parallax is that the further away an object is, the more movement you need until a change is seen. If an object is far enough away, you need to move extremely, extremely large distances to make even a small change. Take one step forward. Tell me, how much different does China look to you (if you're in China and on the internet.... somehow... how does the China exhibit at Epcot look). This is of course ignoring the procession of the stars indicated by astronomical records from Ancient Greece (who described the spot Polaris currently is as barren) through the Islamic Golden Age and Renaissance that you people conveniently ignore. You want to know something even more impossible? If you go to the Southern Hemisphere and look south, the south-facing constellations circle around a point directly in front of you that doesn't move just like Polaris, and yet are somehow, magically 90 degrees to the side, 180 degrees behind you, and every direction in between simultaneously. How does that work? Because that's what happens when the position and movement of the stars is drawn on YOUR map.
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  74.  @ralphricart3177  Eric Dubay was proven wrong a long time ago. You just chose not to look. Question though, what is the POINT of trying to prove him wrong? Neither he nor any of his viewers have any intention whatsoever of listening and changing their opinion, and I believe Dubay's one of the cowards that deletes comments and bans people that attempt it. I could sooner move my wall by shouting at it.
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  75. Go ask why the top Flat Earthers won't debate anybody. Their leader Eric Dubay is notorious for not only refusing to take challengers, but also deleting comments and blacklisting accounts for people that criticize his videos and he's not the only leader that does so. Because you know... "thinking for yourself" really means "Asskissers only".
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  76.  @StephenJelinek  First of all, I suspect that you're lying. Second, even if North Dakota is so backwards hillbilly that they didn't, that doesn't really help your case when our country has a long history of banning topics not because they were wrong, but because the Cult of Jesus tried to turn our school systems into a Theocracy by means of banning topics that disproved the Bible. That's right, real science wasn't taught because of Christian Censorship.
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  77. You realize that the Flat Earth "law of perspective" is MADE UP right? By the way, it takes less than 30 seconds to find videos of people "bringing back" ships only to have other boats in the field of view partially obscured, then zoom in on those and FAIL to bring even a single centimeter back even after doubling or tripling the zoom. How do i calculate this "Law of Perspective"? At what point does it just become impossible to change it farther even though the camera can keep zooming?
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  78.  @Yes_I_c4n  Just making sure, you do realize that companies can instantly determine the shape of the Earth by how much FUEL is spent on those routes, right? Routes between the three southern continents are MUCH LONGER on Flat Earth. Syndey to Sanitago is DOUBLE the distance. if you do not have the right amount of fuel for this, you do not arrive. Your boat idles out in the middle of the ocean, and your plane CRASHES, killing everybody on board.
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  79. Ironic considering that they're more of a mix of the "Science is satanic and Christianity should be taught in the classroom" religious nutters and QAnon, are led by a literal Nazi-supporting Hitler apologist (Eric DUbay) and seem to really fucking love Trump like all other conspiracy theorists seem to.
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  80.  @sanikam6079  The changing continent sizes is a perspective trick. The distance and settings of the camera changes how much of the earth is visible, which changes the percentage of the visible side that objects take up. There are pictures floating around somewhere of people duplicating this with a desktop globe.
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  81. I thought you liked indoctrination. Isn't that why you force children at a very young age to go to "school" to learn that if they don't believe the Bible without question, they'll be tortured for eternity?
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  82. Horizon does NOT mean flat. It's derived from the Greek root "Horos" and means BOUNDARY. Horizontal is "[in the direction] of the horizon". We have an entire field of anthropological study detailing the origin and history of words. It's called "etymology" and you sir are too lazy to bother looking it up. No wonder you fall for scams. If pedantically bitching about word usage is your best piece of evidence, no wonder Flat Earth is the world's biggest punch line.
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  83. So. Eric Dubay deletes comments that call him and his goons out when they get caught lying. Why is "critical thinking" ass kissers only?
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  84. And what would the PURPOSE of this be? They're not going to spend large amounts of money and resources solely to do something they already know the hoaxers will whine "Fake fake fake" about.
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  85. If you draw the locations and movement of the stars in the Southern Hemisphere on a Flat Earth map, it results in the same objects being 20,000 miles apart in opposite directions on multiple axes at the same time. Whoops.
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  86.  @cole1532  So what age did you start telling your children "Believe in Jesus or you will burn in hell?"
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  87. And every other flat Earther will immediately turn on them like rabid wolves and claim that they were "bought" or "threatened".
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  88.  @chrisross4898  It's easy to be smarter than god. Child: Why do people die. Christian: Because God forbid Adam and Eve from eating the Fruit of Knowledge of Good and Evil, but Eve was tricked by the serpent, giving them knowledge of sin and filling God with anger. Child: Why did God make a fruit he didn't want to be eaten? Chiristan: Shut up and don't question God's wisdom. Jokes aside, WHY should we believe something is true because the Bible says so? The Bible makes many claims that NO PERSON EVER WITNESSED and expects us to believe them not by evidence, but on blind faith because they were revealed in DREAMS. How do you know that the Earth is actually on pillars if nobody has ever seen those pillars? How do you know the Bible is trustworthy? Would you believe it if you hadn't been raised to "Believe or you're going to hell" by every authority figure around you since the day you were born?
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  89. The word level can be used to make a comparison against a standard. See also character level, blood sugar level, trauma level, and grandmaster-level;, none of which are flat.
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  90. ​ @DidivsIvlianvs  No offense, but actually look into a topic before claiming people to be making straw men. The "Four corners of the Earth" is like a D, or E, or F-tier claim. The actual big religious claim that about 95% of the Flat Earthers use is that there's a big dome over the Earth separating the waters called a "firmament" which they use lines out of Genesis and other parts of the Bible for, followed by lines out of the Bible about how the Earth isn't moving and the sun moves above it, followed by using Genesis to claim that the moon is "just a light" and not a solid rock. Furthermore, when you ask them "Why would they hide the shape of the Earth?" About 25-50% of them go on a rambling spiel about "Blah Blah BLah Satan Hiding God". Of course you would know this if you'd ever actually talked to a Flat Earther.
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  91.  @DidivsIvlianvs  You can argue about origin of terms all you want but the fact is this: MODERN Flat Earthers use MODERN translations of the Bible to justify their beliefs.
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  92.  @flawlesscarlo  BULLSHIT. NASA NEVER claimed they could not rebuild it, only that it would be a pain to do so. Technology does not just include knowledge and research. It also includes the PHYSICAL machinery to run your program. You need FACTORIES equipped with specialized equipment to build specialized parts that nobody has made in 50 years. All of your original pilots are 90 years old, so that means you need to rebuild all of your training and simulation equipment to train new ones. And even if NASA had a rocket sitting around mothballed somewhere, they can't USE it because we know for a fact that they tore up the launch facility to reuse the land for the space shuttle 40 years ago. Without this shit, no matter how much knowledge and research you have, your rocket doesn't move five feet. If you think this is going to be sitting around half a century later despite costing money to store and keep operational and despite not having been used, at all, during that time, then please don't vote because you're batshit insane and shouldn't have legal independence.
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  93.  @FinanciallyWeGrow  "and what evidence do you have that the North Star was ever something different then Polaris?" There's surviving astronomical records from Greece and the Islamic Golden Age showing that at the time of those records, the Celestial Pole was empty. Also, modern computers and equipment can measure very small changes at a precision that would have been impossible when the Bible's stories were written. "Adolf hitler said if u tell and lie big enough and frequent enough, people will believe it" What if the Bible is false? It'd be the biggest lie with the most tellings, would it not?
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  94.  @nicholashpitts  The people who have "woken up" are snoring loud enough to wake the dead.
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  95.  @lookn4heal  "How would a compass work in Australia holding it flat and level?" Jjust so you're aware, compasses are weighted because otherwise they will point up or down. They're also region locked and don't work properly if you take them to the opposite hemisphere.
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  96.  @lookn4heal  .... the fuck are you on about? Again, compasses contain a weight on the needle so that it doesn't point up or down. Can you visualize that? A counterweight?
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  97.  @lookn4heal  Again, compass needles are weighted. What are you expecting is going to happen and why are you ignoring the basic construction of the tool? So are you ever going to answer why the atmospheric gradient doesn't fill your dome and whether you believe all of the instrumental measurements are lying?
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  98. I mean.... your movement's led by a yoga teacher.
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  99. You should rename that app to Deception in Plane Sight. The screenshots of it on their very own apps page debunks their own model. Tell me, how does a spotlight sun create a CONCAVE light pattern, and if night is caused by the sun moving out of range, how the flying fuck does it magically illuminate more of the Southern Hemisphere during the southern winter months when your own app shows the sun moving closer to the edge - and therefore FARTHER AWAY from the opposite side. No offense, but if you believe that this challenge is real, you probably shouldn't have financial independence. All of these anti-science challenges are scams. They exist solely to claim that "Nobody claimed our challenge money" and strut around like peacocks, no matter how many lies they have to tell to keep that position. Eric Dubay put out one of these challenges about 2-3 years ago. When people confronted him about the fact that it's impossible to have two celestial poles on a flat Earth, he started blatantly lying and making excuses such as, and I quote: "You cannot learn anything about the shape of the ground beneath your feet by looking up at the sky". This, of course, means that anybody that tries to use "Polaris doesn't move" is lying too, but he's rather mum on that. Also, isn't Weiss one of the Flat Earthers that delete the comments of people that try and debate him? I know Dubay does. I know that Weiss refuses to debate the big science debunking channels so what makes you think he has any intention of having a serious debate now? Oh right, because he's wagered money he probably doesn't have and won't show. Got it.
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  100. It takes less than thirty seconds to find videos where they "bring back" boats, try and "bring back" an even farther boat, and FAIL no matter how much they zoom in.
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  101. So, Operation Fish Bowl is when they tried to "bomb through the firmament right?" But YOUR OWN SIDE claims the sun and moon are inside the firmament, not outside of it, and usually claim that the sun's about 3,000 miles high. But Fishbowl's 1-200 right? So... they're trying to bomb literally thousands of miles away from their target?????
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  102. "You can't feel it, you can't hear it, you can't see it, it can't be reproduced as an experiment, it only exists in Hollywood movies and mass media. Guess what it is?" ...... God?
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  103.  @gr7927  Yeah it doesn't. Weak word games like yours don't change the fact that the Earth is round and Flat Earth is a scam people like to believe because they hate the government and authority.
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  104. Do you bask in the knowedge that your "truth" movement is led by a man that worships a mass murderer and has been repeatedly caught lying about the "truth" and covers it up by banning anybody that calls him out? Flat Earthers would be the first to line up for a book burning.
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  105.  @josephpatrick9334  .... Eric Dubay? The most famous of your Flat Earth leaders? He told you he's gotten his account suspended for writing songs worshipping the Third Reich right?
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  106.  @danielthelion1702  If the gas ball is science fiction, then Flat Earth should have elves and wizards because it's pure fantasy.
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  107.  @KamalJA87  You should probably do research yourself. You can only "Bring back" close ships that are difficult to see, but have not gone over the horizon. There are plenty of videos out there where this FAILS, including ones where they "bring back" ships, zoom in on an even further one that's behind the horizon, and fail to bring it back even after zooming in to the point where the camera completely loses definition. The Flat Earthers choose not to show you these.
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  108.  @KamalJA87  Why do you trust your senses? They're flawed. They can't sense everything. They're easily tricked by illusions, and they will NOT tell you the objective truth, only a "truth" you believe to feel with them. You might as well sit around in a bathrobe claiming to be a wizard and divine the shape of the Earth in tea leaves. If you go to the Southern Hemisphere and look up at the night sky, your senses will see the southern sky rotating around a point to the south much like the Northern ones do around Polaris. If you draw this movement, as well as that seen from the other continents, on YOUR map, you wind up with a horrible MC Escher abomination where the same objects are magically 20,000 miles apart in opposite directions that the same time and move in a manner that defies three-dimensional space. But that's okay, because your sense tell you otherwise, so just ignore any inconsistencies.
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  109. Ahahahahahahaa. "Anybody with balls" It takes literally 30 seconds to find videos of ships being "brought back" where they zoom in on a farther ship and FAIL to bring it back. Your leaders know that this exists and refuse to show it. You want to prove you have balls? Go on. Go crawl back to Eric Dubay and ask him why his fellow hoaxers openly faked proof in Level. Go ask him why his "200 proofs" contain proofs from people that were caught red-handed forging evidence. Ask him why he continues to make videos showing all of the stars circling around the north pole despite knowing damn well that the stars do not move like that in the Southern Hemisphere and that it's impossible to actually draw their positions on a flat map. Go ask him why he and the rest of your "scientists" peed their pants when McToon challenged them to accompany him on one of the flights they themselves claimed didn't exist. Ask your master why YOUR OWN SIDE refuses to debate and why the top dogs are notorious for deleting comments that call them out when they lie. You won't, because you don't have any balls. You know that if you dare question them, you'll be immediately banned. Flat Earthers have all the balls of a castrated sheep.
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  110. Just making sure, you do realize that your Flat Earth leaders are blatantly lying to you when they claim that all of the stars circle around Polaris, right? Only HALF of them do. The other half, the ones in the Southern Hemisphere, circle around a point in the sky in the constellation Octans which like Polaris is due South of all locations simultaneously and doesn't move, which creates something that looks like an M.C. Escher drawing when drawn on YOUR map because it results in objects being 20,000 miles apart in opposite directions at the same time on multiple axes. The answer to this, of course, is shouting "SHUT UP SHILL" as loud as you can and changing the subject. At least the globe doesn't require pretending that half the planet and a billion people don't exist in order to avoid a paradox.
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  111.  @mynamemylastname7179  I mean..... humans can't feel constant speed. They can only feel acceleration.
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  112. You do realize that if the rocket actually hit the dome, the rocket would be DESTROYED by the impact, not turn, right?
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  113. Is water level in a cup where it curves inwards? Rainbows are illusions caused by light passing through water droplets. They aren't a reflection on your dome. Also, the sprinklers on your lawn create curved rainbows too. The "Changing continent sizes" can and has been recreated using desktop globes.
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  114. And Norse mythology says we live on the body of a dead giant connected to the other worlds by a tree.
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  115.  @natemontgomery5740  heads up, REAL photographic observations of the sun are done with a filter. Flat earthers deliberately don't use the filter so they can claim that the hazy glare around the sun is it "changing sizes." They do this deliberately. They know they are lying.
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  116.  @natemontgomery5740  my earlier post seems to have disappeared. I assume Youtube flagged it for inappropriate comtent. I'll be less profane this time. Neil is only one man. What's Eric's excuse? The flat earth debunkers are beating his door down trying to debate him and the coward hides in his safe space deleting comments of people that dare question him to try and keep his And do you care? No. You wouldn't dare challenge him and ask him questions like "Why does your lighthouse curvature video comtain no evidence that they are actualky visible at the distance you claim" or "Why do you use the work of content creators such as Bart Sibrel who have been caught fabricating evidence over a decade ago" or "Why did Level need to resort to amateur magic tricks?" Or ask him about any of the many, many problems his so-called proofs have. After all, being a free thinker means blind acceptence of anything that contradicts the official story, no matter how many lies you tell, and you know that if you raise your voice against him, he'll ban you too. The cow goes moo, the pig goes oink, Eric goes cluck and his worshippers go baa.
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  117. Ask your doctor how your stress level or a hospital's trauma level is flat. Ask the police how your blood alcohol level is flat. Ask a photographer how light levels are flat. Ask a game designer how their game's leveling progression is flat. Words have multiple meanings, you dolt, and "level" has been used to make comparisons against ranks or standards since before you were born. You're a few centuries too late to claim that they're "changing the language." Of course, if you want to be like that, then please kindly stop using "horizontal" to mean flat. It means "of the horizon". -Al means "of or relating to" and horizon means "Boundary", not flat. You changed the language when you turned the word into a synonym for flat so shame on you.
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  118.  @spacemonkey1776  That's nice. My grandmother is dead and my raid group's main tank was hacking up his lungs in raid for almost two months. Oh silly me. Rob Skiba and Flat Earth Focker didn't die because Covid's deadly. They died because God struck them down as false prophets. My mistake.
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  119. Still better than the qualifications of most of the Flat Earthers. They worship a guy that dropped out school at the age of 9. Also, one of the Apollo hoax authors is a professional psychic and claims to have found her hoax information using ESP. I wish I were joking.
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  120. There's one on the ISS. People just claim it's CGI.
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  121. Ahahahaha, 50 miles. It only "pulls into view" boats that are a few miles out, which are too small to be seen but haven't gone over the curve.... and if they're any further than thsat, you can zoom in until you can practically see the scratches on the paint and the parts that are behind the waterline stay behind the waterline. Ooops. Thanks for proving the globe.
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  122. And then take the boat further out. Whoops, once it's past a certain distance, you can zoom in until you can see the paint scratches and the water line never changes. Ah well, don't let anybody know that "perspective" is basically magic.
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  123.  @denzilesau5298  You'd be more convincing if Sibrel hadn't gone around claiming that his work was "rejected from shows for being too hard to disprove" when they wouldn't pay him enough money.
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  124. He's an engineer. Still more qualified than the Flat Earthers, whose movement is based on the work of a man that dropped out of school at the age of 9.
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  125. Eric Dubay's work has been debunked many, many times. The only reason his videos aren't flooded with negative comments is because he's a massive coward that blacklists anybody that criticizes him. It's awfully funny. For a movement that claims to "think for yourself", it survives on more ass kissing than the Human Centipede.
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  126.  @RB-sz9gv  Make stupid assertions, earn stupid responses.
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  127. It takes less than 30 seconds to find videos where you "bring back" boats, then try and zoom in on even farther boats that are only partly visible, then FAIL to bring them back.
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  128.  @Budsport_TV  You're going to be waiting a very, veyr long time. Dubay's a coward that refuses to debate people and bans people that criticize him on his videos.
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  129.  @shanepallette  Flat Earthers deliberately ignore the effects of weather refraction and call it an excuse without doing any of the math to disprove it. This is a difference of maybe 1 degree. Meanwhile the sun routinely rises and sets in completely wrong directions from where it should be on the Flat Earth map according to your own side's apps. One of the hoax debunkers took your very own Flat Earth zodiac map app to places around the world such as Hawaii and Australia and showed a 30-60 degree difference. This is basically written off with "Shut up and stop asking questions." Also, it would be really easy to fake one of those laser tests. Use a boat, stabilized platform or small island to put your laser closer than where you claim it is and use the darkness to hide what you're doing. Keep the footage of the laser short so you can't see it bob. Or simply film it in a different location than you claim because most people aren't going to check. This is really, really easy to do across one of the dry lake bed tests because there's no water to deal with.
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  130. We have. Their work is garbage. It's about as seaworthy as the Titanic. It has been debunked many times and instead of fixing their shit, they'd rather just ban anybody that dares criticize them Go ask Eric Dubay why he uses Bart Sibrel's work when Bart got caught red handed fabricating evidence. Go on, ask him. You won't because you're too cowardly to dare bare teeth at your master. Too cowardly to stand up for the truth.
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  131.  @truebeliever1062  God claims, in Genesis 1:29, that he gave ALL fruit-bearing trees to man to be used as food.... despite the fact that trees like the manchineel have fruit that are so toxic that eating them would brun through your stomach like battery acid. If God's word doesn't lie, then Genesis is not the word of God.
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  132. "Wtf does Bill Nye the mechanical engineer guy know about science?" More than Eric Dubay the Yoga Teacher.
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  133. the moon has an atmosphere in the same way that stripper wearing earrings isn't naked. Technically true, I guess, but not substantial enough to make a difference.
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  134. No offense, but most Flat Earthers swallow whatever they're told and if you dare question them, they call you "brainwashed" and "propagandists" and "shills" because in reality, conspiracy theorists hate questions. They only want you to question the government; questioning them is heresy and should be burnt at the stake. Tell me, did you ask your leaders why the stars in the southern hemisphere are magically 20,000 miles apart in opposite directions at the same time? Because that's what happens when the observed and recorded movement of the stars is drawn on YOUR map.
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  135.  @platygaia5303  "Nasa also says the globe spins 1000 mph. How do we know that? " Um.... the Earth rotates once per day. The earth has a circumference of about 24,000 miles There are 24 hours in a day. 24,000 / 24 = 1000 I'm sorry, but did you pass school? Because every third grader knows that that line and two dots on their calculator means "division".
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  136. So.... it's true then? Because "Fake news" means "It's true but makes me look bad"
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  137.  @daniel.C.morris  Um..... democracy is a form of government. Capitalism is a form of economy. They're not the same thing. Capitalistic economies are NOT automatically democracies or republics (which is what the US is, a government where the people elect representatives instead of directly voting); a monarchy can have a capitalistic economy too. The term you're looking for is "Plutocracy" where the government is run by the wealthy, such as the fictional city of Ul'Dah in Final Fantasy XIV. No offense, but you need to go back to school.
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  138.  @daniel.C.morris  Technically you already did. If your high school had civics and economics like mine did senior year, this would have been covered.
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  139.  @therealzilch  "If airplanes could fly off into space by just pointing their nose up, why do we need rockets to fly to the Moon?" Rockets are better for attracting chicks.
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  140. Do you have a computer more powerful than that of the Enterprise? Because video with enough detail to see tiny ass buildings AND thousands of miles of terrain needed to see the shape and rotation of the Earth simultaneously would melt your computer into a molten liquid sludge.
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  141. You think they're high school dropouts? Rowbowtham, the one from the 1800s everybody blindly parrots, dropped out at age 9.
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  142. But only if you watch Flat Earth videos. They don't show the ones where it fails.
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  143. Ah, yes, the one where the Flat Earther made up a fake law and the author starts mocking him for it You didn't actually read the article, did you? It's sarcastic as hell.
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  144.  @StephenJelinek  Nikola Tesla also died in obscurity and spent the rest of his life FAILING to produce alternatives to the "pseudoscience" he argued against in part because his stubborn refusal to let go out of outdated science like Aether that the rest of the scientific community rejected as false because of lack of evidence decades before his death. Anybody can talk shit. Shame he couldn't back it up.
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  145.  @StephenJelinek  Nikola Tesla died penniless and a has-been, complaining about how the world refused his genius and inventing death rays like a B-movie mad scientist. He is remembered today by many of you "truth-seekers" in FETISHISTIC CULT WORSHIP to the point that people promote Tesla's failed alternatives to gravity, which have LESS evidence than the accepted ones, purely because "Nikola Tesla said so so it must be true" Behold, the true face of scientism. The hilarious thing is that Tesla himself was NOT a Flat Earther. His work and notes contain many references to the Earth being round and one of his inventions was a radio telescope used to look for signs of civilization on Mars. I'm sure you knew that, of course. What a great way to show your support for him: taking a great big watery dump on his actual beliefs, and then pretending that he's your champion.
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  146.  @StephenJelinek  You're only making the problem worse. Furthermore, the Northern Winter is the Southern Summer. Have you actually looked at the light patterns for the winter? Your "spotlight" sun creates a CONCAVE light pattern and its light travels FARTHER across the sides of the Southern Hemisphere, illuminating places from closer to the edge (which is FARTHER from the opposite side than in the Northern Winter) that would be in darkness when it is in the center - and therefore closer. Why does the sunlight travel farther when it is farther away?
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  147.  @StephenJelinek  Guess you can't answer, can you?
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  148. Johnny, it took me less than thirty seconds to find a video where somebody "brings back' a batch sailboats, fails to bring them back entirely, then zooms in further on on of hte "sinking" masts until the camera becomes too blurry to see jack shit, and still doesn't "bring it back". I guess it just stops working when you're past a certain distance. Explain why the Flat Earthers never show the videos where "bringing them back" FAILS despite the fact that you can easily find them. You, sir, got fucking played.
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  149.  @jacobmilgromiii7729  Nice story, but you left out the fact that Michelson-Morley was NOT claimed to have disproved the motion of the Earth, but was in fact a failure to find luminiferous aether, a magical undetectable incorporeal energy-gas... thing used for the propagation of light. You know, what you're claiming that Dark Matter and such are. But you can't have that because Nikola Tesla, Holy is is Name, used Aether in his failed alternatives to gravity and Nikola Tesla is essentially the second son of god, so you LIED, claimed that aether existed, and used the opposite of the test's original conclusion to reverse engineer the logic behind the test to claim it "proved the Earth doesn't move." ---------------- You know, you should be happy when science makes stuff up to make their math work. At least they're putting in effort. When a Flat Earther is asked why their math doens't work, they usually just shout "Shut up sheeple!" and change the subject.
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  150.  @jacobmilgromiii7729  "Hey Flat Earther, the sun rises and sets in the wrong direction from Hawaii, one of the most visited tourist locations in the world." "Shut up shill water finds its level 8 inches squared!" "Hey Flat Earther, the moon magically turns to face each person individually like a Doom sprite instead of rotating when viewed from different locations like a nearby object would" "Shut up shill water finds its level 8 inches squared!" "Hey Flat Earther, there's a weird paradox in the Southern Hemisphere where the same constellation is on oppposite sides of your disk at the same time" "Shut up shill water finds its level 8 inches squared!" Lol indeed.
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  151.  world class hacker  But I thought the first reality most people were taught was "Jesus loves you and if you don't believe him without question you'll be tortured for eternity"
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  152.  @luxserpentis7827  Then you would be the first because the rest of your movement worships him more than they worship Jesus. By the way, the UN map doesn't actually work. It's used because it's a nice-looking symbol that shows the world roughly evenly, but it's NOT able to used for navigation. The projection it's based on tries to match points with their longitude coordinates, resulting in everything south of the equator being stretched horizontally like you put it through a taffy machine. Australia is literally double its actual size on the Flat Earth map. Also, compassed do NOT point to the center of your map Magnetic North is not actually at the center of your map beneath Polaris, and it MOVES about 30-40 miles a year.
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  153.  @luxserpentis7827  Oh, and by the way, the fact that magnetic north is not true north is the first thing they teach you in orienteering. Anybody that claims that compasses point to the center has never used one.
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  154.  @luxserpentis7827  Then do so eunuch. IF you had any balls, you'd prove me wrong instead of just hurling insults.
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  155.  @luxserpentis7827  Who's still talking about Dubay? I'm telling YOU to man up, little girl, since you can "easily destroy me. But you won't. You have nothing. You got disproved and couldn't do anything but sputter insults and fume. Pathetic
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  156. If the sun and moon were actually the same size, they would only appear to be when they are at the same distance. The instant that they start moving around their orbits over a Flat Earth, we would see this as one moves farther away than the other. That's how PERSPECTIVE works.
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  157.  @williamholley3676  Whichever one you claim wrote your holy texts. The same thing applies regardless of what name you give them.
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  158.  @randyclar747  "Because I said so" isn't proof.
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  159.  @markdarmetko8926  Mark, you posted like 20 comments a very short period of time. Youtube's system has a spam filter that can autotmatically block comments if you do that.
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  160.  @Broddi169  Eric Dubay's been debunked himself, many, many times, and deletes the comments of anybody that points it out. Go ask him why he continues to use Bart Sibrel's work more than a decade after Sibrel got caught fabricating evidence. You won't, because you know you'll be listed as a shill and banned.
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  161.  @Lad_Clan  And the formula for how far away an object can be seen is....... oh right, it can't be calculated. Also, you are aware that it takes literally one minute to find videos on youtube where they can "bring back" one boat but FAIL to bring back another one in the same scene no matter how much you zoom because it just... cuts off an arbitrary point? HOW DOES THIS WORK??? ---------- .... why wouldn't we be able to see the reflection.? As long as it's angled properly, it will be 'above" the sea. By the way, at 3,000 miles high, the distance your own side claims the sun is, it would need to be approximately 35,000 miles from the observer to fall below 5 degrees. The sun should never set on Flat Earth. ----------- They're perfect circles because the distance the Earth moves during it is too small compared to how far away they are to matter. The farther an object gets from you, the smaller the angle becomes until it approaches zero. Also, the other stars are moving in the same rough direction that we are. I'm sure you've seen a marching band before right? By the way, you do realize that perfect circles disproves YOU right? If the stars are close to the earth, then the position you are looking at them from would be at an angle and not directly beneath them. This angle will increase the lower they are and the farther you are away from the North Pole. On Flat Earth, the only place on the entire planet you would ever see perfect circles from is Santa's Workshop; everybody else will see star OVALS that become flatter and flatter the farther south you go. Also, it's impossible to have star circles above the South Pole. This causes paradoxes . Your leaders know this.
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  162. Um.... you fly to the moon during the day for safety reasons so you're not trying to land and operate in the dark. I would like to remind you one lunar day is approximately a month long, so you're in either constant sunlight or constant darkness for weeks at a time.
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  163. Not really, no. It takes ONE DAY to see the Earth do one rotation. You wouldn't see that without a time lapse. It'd be far more efficient to simply take a still photograph every 10 minutes or so. You won't miss much. Furthermore, what is the point of this? You're too far away to really see details well, so you'd be better off with a satellite in orbit zoomed in on the exact thing you want to watch. Lastly, how exactly would this prove jack shit? Anybody with two working brain cells knows the Flat Earthers will call your stream CGI anyways. Also, what exactly are you using to power your stream? Probably solar power? Just keep in mind that the moon is in darkness for two weeks at a time so you need a really, really good battery to do this.
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  164. Fun fact. It's been proven that basketballs are flat. If you zoom in on it with a P900, you can see that there's no visible curve. That's why the Globetrotters are a fake team, because they promote lies.
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  165. Not unless you're on King Kai's planet.
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  166.  @davidbaker8166  David, buoyancy doesn't exist in a vacuum. Under Newton's First Law of Motion, your bowling ball and feather would sit in midair forever and not fall because there's no force acting upon it. Also, buoyancy requires gravity. It works because the air/liquid is being pulled down and displacing the lighter material. Objects don't float when the surrounding fluid is weightless or in free fall. Your "buoyancy and relative density" literally stops working and has zero localized effect.
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  167.  @praiseworthysupremegod2828  That's ONE definition. Words can have multiple meanings.
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  168. They also claim that planes are the rigid bodies of constant mass in the SAME SENTENCE as the "flat and non-rotating". So... apparently NASA is blatantly lying in their "hidden" information because planes are not rigid and constantly lose mass as they expend fuel.
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  169.  @JClawson  Question. You do realize that the one thing that REAL perspective (not the made up Flat Earth hocus pocus) does is make parallel lines appear converge as they move away from you, right? Why is this flat-out ignored every time this is brought up? Also, considering that the sun's position in the sky, and the sun's position on your map can be about 40-50 degrees different from various parts of the world, why do you trust the rays to tell you how far away the sun is when they're pointing at something that isn't actually there?
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  170.  @JClawson  Go on, little boy. Answer the question. You people claim to be "critical thinkers" so let's see some critical thinking. If not, well.. run back to your flock, little lamb. Your shepherds aren't here to save you from the wolves.
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  171.  @flawlesscarlo  ..... are you stupid? They spent those 50 years working on NEW ships. You cannot use your NEW parts to build your old ships because they are not the same parts, which means rebuilding all of your old molds, re-configuring your assembly lines, and setting up your testing facilities to build the OLD ones. Can you rebuild a mostly authentic Model T with parts from a 2020 Mustang? NO.  Furthermore, their new pilots are trained to fly their NEW ships, the ones they will actually be using. They are NOT trained to fly the old outdated ones that only move when shipped between museums. Explain to me how a simulator for the space shuttle is going to let a pilot fly the LEM. I'll wait. If you want a technology where you can mix old and new parts however you please, might I suggest LEGO.
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  172. The difference in shape is less than 50 miles. You're looking at a difference of 1%, which would only be a few pixels in a photograph. Unless your name is Kal-El, you're not going to see this. This is like saying a tennis ball isn't round because the fuzz isn't even. Arguably true for the extremely pedantic, but nobody cares other than crazies scraping for a gotcha.
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  173. Eric Dubay lets people comment, but deletes the comments of anybody that criticizes him so the only thing left is the ass kissers.
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  174.  @monsterhuntervideos4446  Do you ever have times where the lights on one side of your room are also on the opposite side of the room at the same time when you turn around? because that's what happens when the stars in the Southern Hemisphere are drawn on YOUR map. Have you considered that that means that the amateur telescope isn't very good? NASA is lying because their pictures don't match what we see with vastly, vastly inferior equipment. Brilliant logic there buddy.
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  175.  @Poweruser75  ..... but electromagnetism is sign-dependent. If electrostatic force were causing objects to fall, it would only attract either positively charged or negatively charged objects. The other sign would fly up into the sky and grounded objects would hover because an object with no charge would be neither repelled nor attracted. Likewise, both water and organic life are diamagnetic and will travel in the opposite direction in a magnetic field that iron does.
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  176.  @Poweruser75  Okay, there's this law in physics called Newton's First Law of Motion. It states that an object in motion stays in motion and an object at rest stays at rest until an outside force alters it. In case you don't understand what this means: it means that without a force acting upon it, your rock will not fall. It will sit there stationary forever. No force, no falling rock. "it just does" is not a force and neither is "Shut up and stop asking questions". Flat Earth violates the most basic law upon which the entirety of physics is based.
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  177.  @Poweruser75  The force for weight is gravity. The formula for weight is m*g (mass x gravitational acceleration) The property of how much stuff it is made of is Mass. Mass is a scalar. It is not a force. It cannot do anything without an outside force. By the way, the formula for buoyancy is also based on gravity. Also, no offense, but if I had a nickel for every time I'd been called a shill/sheeple/etc or blown off when pointing out problems on Flat Earth (including on this very topic), I could swim in them like Scrooge McDuck.
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  178.  @edwardclancy8336  The difference is that I'm only making sarcastic ridicule and any court would recognize this. Weiss is the one pretending to make a real challenge.
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  179. Engineers are the people that apply science to practical use....
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  180.  @Archangel0804  Okay. Who would people recognize that also wouldn't write this off as a massive waste of their time?
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  181. It's not just Flat Earth being "censored". No offense, but ignoring the fact that Flat Earth requires mental gymnastics worthy of a psionic circus to even function, conspiracy theorists in general are kind of viewed as dangerous lunatics. Not only are they associated with right wing extremists, Neo-Nazis, and white supremacists (because they tend to frequently be the same people and are often promoted in the same shady parts of the internet), you kind of have people shooting up pizza parlors looking for abused children that don't exist, derailing trains over Coronavirus, and threatening the families of terrorist attacks and shootings and frankly the rest of the "movement" is too cowardly to take responsibility and call them out on it, instead pretending that any wackos among them are "government psyops" to save face. Eric Dubay keeps getting removed for antisemitism, not Flat Earth "censorship" by the way. It's because he's a Hitler-loving Nazi. But you like censorship, right? Did you know that Jarrah White, the #1 Apollo hoax youtuber, not only blacklists people that challenge him on his channel, but tried to CENSOR YOUTUBE ITSELF by deliberately flagging hundreds of his critics' videos with abusive false copyright strikes against their videos to get their accounts banned? Why censor something if it's a lie?
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  182.  @flatearth5821  Why should I listen to a word Dubay says when he continues to promote people like Bart Sibrel, one of the major moon landing hoaxers who got caught fabricating evidence? If he's going to lie and promote lies, WHY SHOULD I LISTEN? Do you think we haven't listened to him? Do you think his claims haven't been examined? That we didn't notice that his excuses for the southern celestial pole doesn't actually show his explanation in action because it doesn't work? Dubay is a joke, and if you actually listened to the "confusing debunking army" instead of lining up to kiss his royal ass, you might know that. ---------------------------------- It doesn't take going to the debunking army for advice to realize that your oversized australia is bullshit. Australia is about 2500 miles across. Double that is 5000. 5000/500 mph = 10 hours. 5000 miles / 5 hours is 1000 miles per hour, almost double a passenger plane's maximum speed. I'm sorry, but if you can't do this, please go back to school because basic division is taught in third grade.
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  183. The word "Level" is also used to make a comparison against a standard, regardless of whether it is or even can be flat. For example, I got my LEVEL 40 character through the Anor Lando LEVEL of Dark Souls, which required some master-LEVEL play because Ornstein and Smough will grind you into paste After a while though, I had to eat because my blood sugar LEVEL was getting low, and while doing so I heard an ambulance heading to the local hospital, which is a LEVEL III trauma center. That's five proper uses of the word "level" in two sentences, none of which have anything to do with being flat. If you want to play those word games, the air is called the atmoSPHERE and the areas north and south of the equator are called hemiSPHERES.
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  184. Why don't any of you cowards the keep coming here going "Debate Eric Dubay, debate Eric Dubay" ever go up to him and demand that he accept the debaters that are beating his door down for an audience. Go on, do it coward. You know he'll immediately blacklist you if you try.
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  185.  @oliviapg4002  Olivia.... the Flat Earth map causes everything south of the equator to be stretched sideways to the point that Australia is double its actual size. You can't use it for actual navigation. Also, you got gypped. Convex Earth was revealed as a scam less than two weeks after it came out. It's literally smoke and mirrors. It didn't take long for people to find who your Brazilian "scientists" were: a group of known con artists that had previously made other "experiment" videos where they interact with f-ing aliens. It was hilarious. All of the Flat Earthers started spamming every channel with links to it and hosting as many mirrors as they could. And just a few days later, they immediately stopped, pulled their videos, and tried their damnedest to pretend they'd never believed it.
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  186. ..... so is there a point to this? Because pedantically bitching about word usage is scraping the bottom of the giant chasm that used to be the barrel.
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  187. It takes less than 30 seconds to find videos where people "bring back" a boat, then zoom in on an even farther boat, and FAIL to bring it back no matter how far they zoom. The boats that are "broat back" aren't over the horizon yet. They're simply too small to see but have not yet reached that distance. The Flat Earthers know this is the case. They're deliberately lying.
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  188. That doesn't stop modern people from being idiots.
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  189. Ironically, for all of Tesla's bitching about the scientific community's reliance on "fake science and theory", his own alternatives to gravity and relativity and other "fake" science had LESS evidence and he died still trying to use aether 50 years after the rest of the scientific community dismissed it as unscientific because they had failed to find any evidence of its existence even before Einstein came along. Despite that, many people push Tesla's aether gravity purely because it's Tesla who made it. Funny, no?
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  190.  @Flat_Earth_Sophia  In the billions of cubic miles of low orbit? Most of the time, you'd be lucky if you got within 10 miles of something without aiming for it.
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  191.  @mynamemylastname7179  Here's a better question: why are the same stars visible south of Africa, Australia, Polynesia, and South America simultaneously, despite drawing this on YOUR map creating a paradox where objects are in opposite directions at the same time. The answer, because you're a lazy 🐑 is <Ban from channel>
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  192.  @otnyzjosiah8204  Matthew wrote that after Jesus was born, he was taken to Egypt to hide him because King Herod tried to kill him. Luke tells that Mary rushed to Bethlehem so that Jesus would be born there just in time for the Census of Quirinus. How is it possible for both of them to be true when Herod died and his empire split apart between his sons about ten years before the census? And yes, your biblical scholars, the people that actually STUDY the Bible unlike you weekend warriors, are well aware of this problem. At least one of your disciples is burning in hell for lying in the Bible.
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  193. That's a funny way of spelling "Qanon". Most Flat Earthers are also biblical literalist. Aren't the ultra religious fundamentalists usually conservative, not liberal? I'm honestly surprised that Trump isn't.
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  194.  @skrillgorefuski  The term "globalism" refers to political and economic policies designed for international benefit as opposed to promoting local and national interest. The only people misusing it to refer to the shape of the Earth are Flat Earthers and anti-science cultists.
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  195. ..... so how is the moon being up during the day a problem? The model you're "disproving" flat-out states that the moon is on the sunlit side of the Earth half the time. It's the BIBLE - YOUR side- that claims it exists to illuminate the night. Science has never once claimed that the moon works like it does in My Little Pony. Trying to pretend that it does is just dishonest.
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  196.  @1WWJD  Hey Jay, the next time you're on a train or airplane, jump. You'll find that by some miracle, you don't instantly die as the vehicle moves under your feet.
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  197.  @natemontgomery5740  Your glorious leader's Level video has a "demonstration" where they show that you "can't see the light source while standing in darkness" - by having the rim of the flashlight between the bulb and the camera, blocking the light. Eric Dubay makes the Freemasons look like saints.
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  198.  @freedomfighter4830  According to my eyes, the billboard I can see out my bedroom window is smaller than my computer monitor. Hmmm, must be true!
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  199. Remember, "Fake News" means "It's true but I don't want to hear it."
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  200.  @erik8603  "Ofcourse I trust science Defined as the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and testing of theories." Okay. Evolution is a systematic study of a natural phenomenon. It is based on observations and evidence. It is falsifiable, unlike Creationism, and more importantly can be used to make predictions. "A transitory fossil of a given animal with X characteristics will be found in Y location in Z layer of rock" is a testable, falsifiable experiment, is it not? If direct observation in a lab is needed to be science, then I'm guessing that you believe that all other forms of science that deal with phenomena that cannot be tested in a lab or deal with events that already happened (such as geology and astronomy) aren't science either huh?
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  201. I remember when Eric Dubay put out his "10,000 dollar challenge", promising detailed responses for challengers. What he actually did was give one-line links to videos that had already been debunked and made excuses such as, and I quote: "You cannot learn anything about the shape of the ground beneath your feet by looking at the sky" By the way, this means you can't use any proofs about how Polaris doesn't move. The Grand Poobah has spoken.
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  202.  @KangenAlec  Unless there's a second sun out there, in which case you should be asking why God forgot to mention that little fact in his little story about how he made the world, any land out far enough is in permanent nighttime and permanent subzero temperatures. Wooooooow. Infinite amount of frozen barren wasteland. I'm sorry, why are we hiding this again?
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  203.  @KangenAlec  There has to be unless you want nothing but barren rock or frozen tundra. Your own model says that the reason the north pole and "ice wall" get freezing temperatures and 24 hour darkness during the winter is the sun is too far away. There MUST be at least one more sun (probably more) otherwise your land past the ice wall will receive less and less sunlight until it doesn't receive any at all. Think through your own model. Use your brain. I know that asking a Flat Earther to think is like asking a brainless bimbo to think of something other than sex, but at least try.
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  204.  @KangenAlec  Do you have any videos explaining why the stars in the Southern Hemisphere are magically 20,000 miles apart in opposite directions at the same time when drawn on the Flat Earth map?
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  205.  @KangenAlec  So then you deny the existence of Africa, Australia, and South America and deny recorded observations based solely on the words used to give places names.That says everything I need to know about the "big picture".
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  206. It always amuses me when a Flat Earther talks about indoctrination when YOU literally take your children to church and tell them "Believe what the church says without question or you will be tortured forever" before they can even stand.
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  207.  @skater4life2360  How old were your children when you first threatened them with damnation if they didn't love Jesus? 1? 2? Maybe you waited until they were 3?
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  208.  @skater4life2360  "Died for our sins" always struck me as dishonest and disgusting - people pretending that the death of another somehow absolves you of your actions. Do you know where the term "scapegoat" comes from? It's an ancient tradition where the sins of a community would be put upon an animal and then it's sacrificed or let go or what have you, and ta-da, all of your guilt and wrongdoing goes away. That's what Jesus is: a Human Scapegoat for a religion of people who have to pretend "the devil made me sin" because they're not honest enough to admit that they're just shitty people
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  209.  @frasercunningham4778  .... so then why did your Flat Earthers have to use a person that was lying about being a pilot?
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  210.  @timdescher2606  Tim, while the light poles will appear to get smaller, they will NEVER become obscured. They will NEVER appear to sink into the ground. So, let's see this 50 mile pull back, as well as the proof that it's actually 50 miles and not 3. We're all aware of Eric Dubay. I watched about half of Level. I stopped after feeling outright insulted by the lies he and his cronies thought I'd buy. I mean seriously, did you see the part where they demonstrate their spotlight sun over their map that you "can't see the light source while in the dark"? The reason the camera was in the dark was because the rim of the flashlight was between the camera and the bulb. That's right, Eric Dubay and his cronies think you're too stupid to realize that light doesn't travel through solid opaque objects.
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  211.  @timdescher2606  Then why are there lots of videos where you can clearly see the ship being obscured? Why are there videos where they "bring the object back', then pan over to another further ship that looks like it's sinking, zoom in on that, and FAIL to change the waterline? Do you know why the ship isn't being obscured? Because your Flat Earth Masters choose not to show the ones where they are. --------------- We've already checked out Eric Dubay, thank you very much and he was full of more shit than an outhouse the last ten times. Why on Earth do you think people haven't? ----------------- Tim, objects in physics maintain their forward momentum when launched from a moving object. The planes are traveling at the COMBINED speed, 1500 vs 500. Yes, that means to an outside observer, the plane flying in the opposite direction would appear to be flying backwards. This is a well-known quirk of physics relating to a law called the Conservation of Momentum and it's literally half of the Freshman midterm. Might I remind you that the people taking these classes are the engineers that build your buildings, vehicles, and bridges, so teaching them false physics to "maintain the globe conspiracy" is SUICIDAL because people will DIE when shit doesn't work properly. That's why objects dropped out of a car window continue moving forward. That's why when you launch an object backwards at the same speed that you're moving forward, it appears to fall straight down. That's why you can jump inside that airplane without being squashed like a bug on a windshield against the back wall as the plane moves under you. This has been tested to death, and I do mean literal corpses. Planes have to take this into account to keep from missing their targets by miles because their bombs will continue moving forward after released.
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  212. "Sun and moon are always 180 degrees apart" That's a blatant lie and you know it.
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  213.  @melissaflood505  "What’s more is how do you explain the recent F-16 pilot who spoke on globe Busters" Well, considering that one of your side's other "professional pilots" turned out to be a fraud....
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  214. Nanomachines, clearly.
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  215. It's awfully cute that you people think you're serving "God" while your movement is led by a man that worships one of the most evil mass murderers to have ever lived. Satan gives Flat Earth two horns up.
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  216. I disagree. Make the Flat Earth leaders go up. Then watch them destroy their lives because they'll never be able to face their followers ever again. if they say "I was wrong" they will immediately be devoured by the people claiming they were "threatened" or "bought off" I bet they'd either suicide or fake their deaths to escape the public light.
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  217.  @gutenbird  We don't want the aliens to think we're polluting.
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  218. So if you ever find a video called Convex Earth, steer clear. it's a fraud. It was made by a group that had previously faked experiments for an "alien".
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  219.  @RB-sz9gv  There's an optical illusion that causes the moon to look larger when it's close to the horizon. It's just an illusion. It's not real. The moon does change dize a small amount as it moves closer and farther away because the orbit is not circular, but it is NOT as much as should be on the Flat Earth. We don't see it change 50% in size Also, we don't measure the sun with with the naked eye. We use a filter because there's a hazy glare around it that makes it look larger than the object's actual size. The sun itself does NOT change size. The GLARE around it does. You people DELIBERATELY choose to do this. You are the deceivers.
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  220.  @mynamemylastname7179  So did you know that if you take your precious P900 and zoom it in on a basketball, you can see the truth that basketballs are FLAT!!! NO CURVE!!!! The Harlem Globetrotters are evil masons hiding the truth of flat basketball.
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  221.  @Thought_Criminal_13  That "blue screen" is a grid. There are videos of them using it for measuring weird zero g motion tests. Blue screens are typically mono-colored or have small markings. They won't have bright white grids because the technology works by replacing a specific color with the projected image. You'd have white stripes through your fakery! By the way, you can't wear the same color shirt as the background, otherwise the image will show up on you, so when we have both blue shirts and green shirts in the same scene, what color screen are they projecting it on? I think the third is..... pink?
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  222. Tommy, Dubay doesn't debate. At all. He picked a fight with Tyson because he knew Tyson would blow him off, and has done nothing since but brag about his perfect record of "By Default." Go to his channel and call him out on some of his lies. He'll immediately delete your comments and blacklist you because being a real Flat Earther means basically having to wear diapers to keep your pants from leaking when challenged.
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  223. I'm going to let you in on a little secret. You know that Flat Earth test where a quarter moving back and forth on a table causes the bottom of the coin to "disappear" right. You want to know how it's really done? The camera is slightly below the edge of the table. It's a trick any amateur-level illusionist could and would do.
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  224. That's an insult to mental illness.
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  225.  @islamiscancer-r7p  That "whoosh" was the sound of the joke going over your head.
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  226. Still makes him more qualified than the Flat Earthers. They're lead by yoga teacher that steals from a man that dropped out of school at the age of 9.
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  227.  @abdullasaif95  Just as a head's up, one single degree of curvature on a ball the size of the Earth is approximately 70 miles. Your ship would have to be extremely, extremely far away to seem like it's titling over.
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  228.  @abdullasaif95  ...... because 70 miles is a large number and even a fraction of that is enough. I'm sorry, do you think we live on King Kai's planet?
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  229. You live in Australia right? Just making sure since I've never been there, but it's not in a permanent winter like Narnia right? Because that's what would actually happen with the "spotlight sun".
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  230. The rest of the Flat Earthers would immediately declare that whoever you sent was bought or threatened or just say that they were always a plant. Jarrah White, the #1 Apollo hoax Youtuber, found this out personally after daring to post positive things about the Pluto probe and he got declared a gatekeeper by his own fanbase because "How dare he trust anything NASA says. Everything NASA says is a lie."
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  231. Glass Ceiling has nothing to do with your imaginary firmament. It's a business slang for off-the-books restrictions preventing women from receiving equal pay and promotion to men.
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  232.  @chrisnepoose1668  But not enough to send prophets or missionaries to Sub-Saharan Africa, the New World, or Asia and the Pacific for thousands of years. Theological question for you to think on: God says the only way to heaven is through Jesus. Is a person denied heaven, regardless of how good they are in life, if they didn't even know Jesus existed because they lived their entire life away from Christian culture? You can't worship a god you've never heard of.
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  233.  @set3777  The stars only circle around Polaris in the Northern Hemisphere. The stars in the Southern Hemisphere circle around an empty point in the sky in the middle of the constellation Octans that is due south of every point in the hemisphere simultaneously - which results in objects being in multiple, mutually exclusive places at the same time. Ooops. If God is fucking with the mortals that badly, you should probably pray to Satan for your salvation because a God that is lying about the Earth is almost certainly lying about heaven too.
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  234.  @set3777  Sin, you literally have to pretend that half the planet doesn't exist for your model to work. That's a a red flag large enough to send semaphore messages to the moon. By the way, if the Earth were flat, you'd see star OVALS, not circles. Close stars as your model claims would only appear to make circles if you were looking at them at a 90 degree perpendicular; anybody else would see it as ELLIPTICAL because a circle viewed from an angle is an oval, and they would get flatter the farther south you go. The only place you can see the star circles at a perpendicular is, of course, the North Pole looking straight up, so unless your name is Santa Claus, sorry, no circles for you.
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  235. The real question that will tear mankind apart: does God support pineapple on his pizza?
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  236.  @azazel5701  The word "Level" also refers to comparisons made against a standard. It does NOT have to be flat. Blood alcohol level is a percentage. Trauma Level is a system of ranking how prepared a medical facility is to deal with life-threatening injury. Video game levels haven't been flat since Doom And my level 80 summoner is flat only in the sense that her race doesn't have boobs. Do you want me to continue?
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  237.  @flookd5516  I raid in Final Fantasy 14. I do have other hobbies.
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  238. To a Republican, anybody that doesn't worship the dollar bill as the reincarnation of Jesus and fly the flag from their erect willie is a communist. Livable wages for the poor? That's communism speaking. Minimum wage should stay the same forever even though its value has fallen about 20% in the last ten years from inflation.
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  239.  @supermagneticman  Have you tried looking in a mirror? Yes, yes, we're being fooled. Meanwhile, Flat Earth has a PARADOX that requires pretending that half the planet doesn't exist because the observed and recorded motion of the stars in the Southern Hemisphere, when drawn on YOUR map, results in the same object being magically 20,000 miles apart in opposite directions simultaneously in multiple directions. Have an explanation? Wait, no you don't, you're just going to foaming about the mouth about "Blah Blah, shut up you brainwashed shill"
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  240.  @platygaia5303  If the Earth were a confined space, the atmosphere would IMMEDIATELY expand to fill your dome at a roughly equal pressure, so why does atmospheric pressure reach 1% hundreds of miles below your so-called dome? What force is stopping it from going upwards to fill your firmament? How about applying the gas laws to your own model.
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  241.  @platygaia5303  Have you looked at the model you are arguing against? They're NOT moving in different trajectories. The local stars we see are moving in roughly the SAME direction around the center of a giant whirlpool which we haven't even crossed one degree of in the entirety of human civilization. Again, like I said before, your argument assumes that the motion is random. If they aren't random, it goes straight out the window. But it's not the all, so you're deluding yourself and believing in something you can't detect because "it's needed for your model" is, according to yourself, pseudoscience is it not? But it must be electric because your side worships Nikola Tesla like the second coming of Jesus (despite NOT being a Flat Earther). You can choose not to believe in the atom if you want (you're wrong but you can), but now you need an explanation how all of the technologies baaed on it work. Lets start with how a nuclear power plant generates electricity. Any guesses? You've ignored my question again. Answer is: how is it possible for the same object to be in two or more places at once? That is what happens when the observed and recorded of the stars is drawn on YOUR map. Why are you unwilling to discuss this? Why is EVERYBODY unwilling to discuss this?
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  242.  @platygaia5303  "The ISS is a pressurized cabin in space vacuum. What remarkable materials is it made of to keep its seals and thin walls from exploding into a vacuum with a torr of 0.0?" You realize that a can of soda has DOUBLE the pressure difference with the outside air than a space ship would have with the vacuum, right? What arcane magic is the Coca Cola company using?
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  243. Adrian, we have ways to measure things. We know that whatever's down there is hot. We know that there's liquid because seismological waves travel differently between liquid and solid material. We know that whatever's down there is magnetic. We know its rough density based on the Earth's size and its gravitational weight And we know roughly the statistical distribution of materials to tell what is the most likely material to fit these properties.
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  244. You are aware that Flat Earth is extreme right-wing right? It's what happens when QANON has dirty incest sex with your deep south Bible thumpers.
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  245.  @ralphricart3177  Well yeah, with enough time and energy I could. The fact that even basic astronomy requires your map to be drawn by M.C. Esher is good start. You want to play the "ancient cultures all believed in Flat Earth" game? Okay. Almost every culture on Earth believed in some sort of magic.
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  246.  @ralphricart3177  The fact is that prior to Copernicus, western science used the Ptolemaic model, which is a SPHERICAL geocentric model. Copernicus did NOT create the idea that the Earth is round, only that it goes around the sun. So stop lying, because "Everybody believed the Earth was flat until Coperncius" is a bigger myth that Washington cutting down the cherry tree. So yes, we are pretending, so get yourself some dolls because the tea party's at six. I know you people think you're "fighting the evil Satanists" but God's going to be very displeased about his throne being propped on a foundation of lies.
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  247.  @ralphricart3177  Thank you for reminding me that I need to go solve the Brahma Puzzle in La Mulana 2 at some point though. Never did find out where the stuff about the ages was going because I didn't need it to beat the game.
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  248.  @ralphricart3177  ............. can you not read? La Mulana 2. There's an endgame puzzle dealing with the Yugas. La Mulana is a very, very difficult metroidvania with heavy puzzle solving. If you can't comprehend one paragraph, you ain't getting to the first boss.
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  249.  @ralphricart3177  I noticed that you still haven't responded to being called out on your lie about Copernicus either, so..... Look, I'm going to be blunt. You are trying to overturn centuries of progress, with lies and deceipt, in order to return the world to a previous superstitious age. You want to see Kali Yuga? Take a look in the mirror.
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  250. ​ @ralphricart3177  Ah yes, like the convoluted plan to "hide god" by a secret organization that works in complete unity with no backstabbing faction wars despite screwing themselves over personally (Pssssst, if you use fake maps in the 16th century, all of your ships carrying slaves, soldiers, colonists, and expensive trade goods are lost at sea hundreds or thousands of miles off-course) and actions which would KILL THEMSELVES (like blowing up "the firmament" and drowning the world as the water rushes in), invoking the cooperation of countries such as Japan where 99% of the population don't believe in your god to begin with so require even more secret society manipulation to have the country run by a 1% faction of a 1% population that both believes in your god and is hostile towards it because spending billions of dollars to hide something you don't believe in to begin with is complete lunacy. All of this to "hide the truth" of a mdoel that requires pretending that half the planet doesn't exist to avoid a paradox in the Southern Hemisphere where objects are in multiple places at once. Conspiracy theories should be sold next to Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter.
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  251.  @ralphricart3177  Okay let me make this easy: which is "simpler", the ancients are wrong, or there's a multi-century plot to "hide god" requiring millions of people to actively scheme uniformly despite actively harming themselves and their own personal interests to do so? ------ Neither humans nor mechanical devices can sense speed or movement without measuring external factors. They can only sense changes in speed or direction. The speedometer in your car doesn't have any idea how fast you're moving. It measures the electrical force generated by a magnet on your axle. So no, I have never felt the Earth move. And if I sat on the hour hand of a 20-foot wide clock, I wouldn't feel that either. ----------------- Question for you: how can the same object be both in front of you and behind you (and to your sides) simultaneously on a Flat Earth. Because that's what happens when the movement of the stars is drawn on YOUR map. Your precious Eric Dubay ran away screaming when asked about this on his 10,000 dollar challenge, spewing excuses such as "You can't learn anything about the shape of the ground beneath your feet by looking at the sky".
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  252.  @pasway-ea  Okay...... it would be impossible to hide the shape of the Earth from the shipping company because the transoceanic differences between Africa, Australia, and South America are much, much longer on Flat Earth than on a globe. The shipping companies would not put up with the "hiding the shape" nonsense, because that costs them money, since in order maintain the illusion, they'd have to lie about their times and downplay their fees to match other rates of shorter distances. That means undercharging, and losing customers when their stuff doesn't arriving on time. How long would that last before they turn on the Elite with the ultimatum of "You pay us for the wages we miss, plus a bonus, or we bust your hoax wide open?" And the Elite would pay because they have no choice. There's too many of them to control, too many of them to silence, and technology has progressed to the point that the college intern could rig a dead man's switch.
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  253. So about Eric Dubay's refusal to debate and constant deleting of comments that call him out for lying....
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  254. Dumb question, but if centripetal force is as inescapable as you say, then how are magnets able to hold objects to them while spinning including liquids? By the way, merry go rounds are primarily banned for being a safety hazard, as are several other classic playground objects. Tell me, what is the secret Satanic purpose.... of a seesaw?
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  255. We have. Your "answers" fall apart like a house of cards when you breath on them, and the Flat Earth leaders desperately blacklist people to not be challenged.
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  256.  @jaykay9286  REAL observations of the sun are done with a filter to eliminate the glare. Flat Earthers know that the Earth is round. That's why they deliberately do not use those filters so they can lie to you.
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  257.  @Gary-kt8ku  Do you know what time lapse photography is? It's when you film something that is extremely slow, and then speed it up so you can watch it happen. The Earth only rotates one per day. That's 15 degrees per hour, .25 degrees per minute, and .00417 degrees per second. You would not be able to see the rotation without a time lapse because it would be too slow for the human eye and mind to see. Since this is massive overkill that isn't really useful, why would NASA or any other organization have a live 24 hour video nobody's going to watch and nobody's going to see anything in when they could take a still photograph every few minutes and get most of the same information with far, far, far less bandwidth and resources needed? Surely you don't think that anybody with a working brain is going to spend hundreds of million dollars on a completely useless thing just to appease you people, who will just call it fake anyways because that's what you do every single time..
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  258.  @Gary-kt8ku  .... and how large are the details you can see with your telescope? A simple answer will do.
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  259.  @83n80y  "Why'd they talk about it like it's some insurmountable obstacle?" Nobody but the hoaxers ever claimed that they were unsurmountable. Van Allen's early reports on it are literally phrased as "Avoid until we find a way to deal with them. NASA is already working on this as I write this paper" and that was decade before. That video they like to post to recently about them "Needing to solve them?" That's just marketing. NASA's tooting their own horn to make a routine test seem like something impressive.
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  260. But if it's even further away than that, you can continue to zoom in on it until you can practically see the scratches in the paint and the parts of the ship that are still missing never return. The Flat Earthers don't show you those videos do they?
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  261.  @StephenJelinek  The clouds are NOT behind the sun and moon. The sun and moon are so bright that they are drowning out the thin clouds in front of them. Again, if the sun and moon were really that low, they would be sitting on the ground to anybody that is far away from them. Populated cities like New York, Moscow, Paris, and London, which are far above the tropics, would never, EVER have the sun and moon high in the sky. And yet you choose to ignore this. You speak of "reality" but blind yourself to the truth that your world makes no sense and doesn't follow three-dimensional geometry even remotely. And this is a minor violation; we haven't even introduced the impossible geometry paradox created by the Southern Stars that would be so maddening to actually look at that it puts Cthulhu to shame. You are the one with cognitive dissonance.
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  262.  @raymond3803  Flat Earth requires pretending that half the planet doesn't exist to avoid a paradox in the Southern Hemisphere because trying to draw the movement of the stars on YOUR map creates impossible geometry with objects magically in multiple places at the same time. Your leaders defend this primarily through banning anybody that calls them out.
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  263. Unfortunately, our schools are under a worse educator than Dolores Umbridge. Our current Secretary of Education mostly wants to defund public education so that her private school buddies can get rich instead.
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  264.  @therealzilch  But she's not the Master of the Universe. They hang out with He-Man
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  265. Dubay's 200 proofs have claims made by people that have been caught red-handed faking their evidence. Have you asked him about that?
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  266.  @joelcross1355  Waaaah waaaaah Fake News Fake News Waaaaaah.
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  267.  @bigriz7021  And yet there are other videos where if they zoom in on an even further ship with that same P900 you people like, the waterline never changes even when they zoom in close enough to almost see the scratches on the paint. Do cameras just stop working past a certain distance?
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  268. Debate like a man. So I guess Eric Dubay's a eunuch.
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  269. Being widely believed by ancient cultures does NOT make something true. Those cultures came up with their beliefs based on their limited, mortal understanding of the world around them, NOT because some greater power granted them knowledge and wisdom about things no person had ever witnessed. Shall we go through things those "wise" ancient cultures believed that we know are wrong? Magic, monsters, and ghosts probably don't exist. Earthquakes are not caused by creatures chained beneath the ground or the animals that carry the world shifting the load and scratching fleas. Lightning is electricity, not the wrath of the gods. Fire is naturally occurring and was not gifted to man by stealing it from the gods. Variations on this story exist around the world. Disease is caused by microscopic organisms, not divine curses, and bloodletting with leeches and drinking tea made from ground-up tiger livers does not work. Cinnabar is poisonous and you cannot become immortal by ingesting it. And if you told them there were rocks that gave off invisible, intangible odorless tasteless poison, you'd have been treated as if you were insane. It's called "Uranium". "why does the UN use a flat earth map?" Because a globe only shows half of the countries at a time.
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  270. God lies on the first page ont he Bible. He tells man that he gave them every fruit-bearing tree to be used as food, which is a cruel, sadistic joke considering that He made poisonous trees whose fruit will eat through your insides like battery acid. Of course, what do you know? The Bible wasn't written by God. It was written by man claiming to be talking for God.
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  271. ..... I'm pretty sure that a photograph with enough detail to see the curvature of the Earth AND cars driving simultaneously would melt your computer.
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  272. If you could only see three miles, then how the fuck do you see things farther than that? Mountains? Planes? The fucking sun? Your "Law of perspective" is basically "Shut up and stop asking questions." Also, you do realize taht the Earth's spin is too slow to see without a time lapse right? A 24/7 camera isn't USEFUL. It's too far away to see any significant details worth monitoring and too slow to justify 24/7 bandwidth instead of just taking a still photograph every few minutes. Besides, you'd just call it a CGI simulation anyways. Don't try and claim otherwise, because we both know you'd be burning in hell for lying.
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  273.  @Lad_Clan  The Law of Perspective is MADE UP. It does not exist. REAL perspective will never, ever cause the bottom of an object to disappear first. Perspectice would never cause the power lines to shrink into the ground. It will cause the ENTIRE object to shrink as it moves away from you. It will approach, but never reach, the vanishing point and it will never cross that line. Also, the top of the pole is farther away from you so under your own claims should disappear before the bottom and no, the air desnity is not significantly different between 6 feet and 30. How does this law even work? HOW and WHY is there a point past which two boats, one farther than the other, and your camera can double or triple the zoom on the second one with no change? There is no Law. They just claim that their lies are the "Law of Perspective" and request you no ask questions.
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  274. ​ @Lad_Clan  Also, sunrise and sunset prove that your map is a big pile of bullshit. Not only would a 3,000 mile high sun never even get close to the horizon according to basic trigonometry, but places such as Australia will see it rise and set 30-40 degrees in the wrong direction according to where it's supposed to be on YOU map? Is that the Law of Perspective too? The sun being nowhere even close in the sky to where it actually is?
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  275.  @Lad_Clan  Your response to me got marked as spam Unless there's a second sun that God didn't tell you about, no land past that "ice wall" is worth hiding. It will be a permanently frozen wasteland that is either covered in ice or barren sand and rock (if it's too cold for even snow) with no plant life because it will be in permanent nighttime 24/7 too far from the sun to ever have daytime or for anything to grow. You might find some cool bioluminescent sealife like you find at the bottom of the ocean, but that's not worth hiding. The Bible does not prove reality. Without evidence, it is just stories and I can disprove its cosmology by pointing at literally any other religion and going "They disagree with you." Also, the "Giving man all fruit-bearing trees for food" is really questionable considering the poisonous ones. I bet it was a real hoot when he created the manchneel with all of the angels taking bets at what poor, poor mortal would be the first to take a bite of a fruit that looks like an apple (wild apples are generally inedible by the way) and would spend the rest of his life begging for death after eating a fruit that causes horrible chemical burns.
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  276.  @Lad_Clan  You haven't debated THE REST OF MY CLAIMS. Any of them. All y9ou do is avoid and avoid them.
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  277.  @Lad_Clan  Um.... thirty seconds of research shows this to be caused by hexagonal plate ice that falls horizontally. I would presume that it falls horizontally due to air resistance, so if the ice is falling in a consistent pattern, why would it be all over the place? You're assuming randomness from a structured pattern.
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  278.  @Lad_Clan  It is impossible for the stars to create star circles in the Southern Hemisphere. Stars fixed in your firmament would create horizontal streaks the farther south you go. It would NOT create Southern star circles moving in a completely different direction to the rotation of your dome. Furthermore, those circles can be seen from multiple continents at the same time, all due south. This means that your "angels" are in MULTIPLE PLACES AT THE SAME TIME that are in opposite directions on YOUR map or which should be overlapping but aren't. The movement of the stars violates three dimensional space.
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  279.  @Lad_Clan  I have no means of levitating crystals in a lab. Wouldn't be better to send a probe into those crystals to study it as it forms? I would assume that meteorologists have already done that.
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  280.  @Lad_Clan  You can't counter a word I say, can you? Your movement is full of lies that fall apart when examined, you can't do anything but run away from the truth, and your movement is led by a man that writes songs worshiping one of the most evil mass murderers in history. Maybe you should think about who you really serve because your actions do not match your words.
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  281.  happy muttonchop  Just as a head's up, I don't know how long you've been active commenting on Youtube, but many years ago, Youtube was overrun by bots and the system was set to automatically block all links. Even after this was removed, the system would sometimes randomly mark links as spam and I'm not sure this was ever actually fixed. This is hardly the first time I've seen somebody insist they've posted links and I know some of my own posts have disappeared too at times.
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  282.  @steveb6718  Steve, no matter how far away you move your paper, the hole will never appear to be half-covered. The "Changing continents" is a PERSPECTIVE trick. The zoom and distance on the camera changes how much of the viisble surface you can see, which causes the features to "grow" and "shrink" because they'll take up more or less of the portion that is actually visible. There are videos and pictures I'm too lazy to find right now of this trick being done with a desktop globe. ALL pictures are images. An image ANY visual representation, whether it's a photograph, movie still, CGI vector logo, 3d model, painting, hand illustration, scratch board drawing hologram, sidewalk chalk doodle, Etch A Sketch dust drawing, or the fucking Nazca Lines. Also, I work in a print center. I don't know about other people, but we colloquially call both photographs (digital or scanned) and computer artwork images.. I expect most other people use the two interchangeably as well unless they're either a conspiracy theorist or have a redwood up their ass.
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  283.  @objectivityworldview  Santa and the Tooth Fairy.... you mean God and Satan right?
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  284.  @objectivityworldview  If spinning ball is a lie, why do your Hitler-worshipping leaders have to lie about their evidence constantly then ban anybody that calls them out on it?
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  285.  @mikefrazier8409  "so theres no God and no religion ? The Torah and bible are made up ?" That's what Christianity claims about Hinduism, Shinto, and every other non-Abrahamic religion when they aren't just lazily calling it devil worship, is it not? "if no firmament, then why are all 3 books soo precisely able to describe what it is ?" Do you believe in elves because J.R.R. Tolkien wrote about them (and every fantasy author hack author copied him)? How can he perfectly describe a race if they don't exist? "Why do they say the earth is un movable on its pillars?" Because that is their RELIGIOUS belief. How do the authors of the Bible know this when NO MAN HAS EVER SEEN IT? "can you tell me whats not true ?" Okay, here's a fun fact of Biblical scholarship. The author of the Book of Matthew is going to hell as a heretic and a slanderer. He decided that Jesus wasn't special enough and invented a fake massacre of babies by King Herod to make him seem more like Moses. Unfortunately, King Herod not only didn't do this and there's not a scrap of evidence that suggest that's true, he COULDN'T have done so because he was ALREADY DEAD. He died and his kingdom was split up by his sons about a decade before the census Mary rushed to Bethlehem to beat in Luke.
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  286.  @mikefrazier8409  At least the people telling me claim to have actually been and claim to have taken pictures. They aren't telling me to believe because of dreams and visions. I think most people call "burning bushes" marijuana.
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  287. So what's Eric Dubay's excuse where he can't debate anybody and has to blacklist people when challenged?
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  288.  @johnchapman8131  THEN GO ASK HIM. That is.... if you dare. You won't, because you know he'll blacklist you to. How can you debate people who have to wear diapers because they wet their pants at the idea of being challenged so often that they are considered to be medically incontinent? ..... there's an experiment called a Foucault Pendulum. It detects the the rotation of the Earth by having a pendulum, which is released straight, rotate as the Earth moves under it. It rotates in opposite directions in the Northern and Southern Hemisphere and straight at the equator. Oh wait, that's "rigged". Probably can't tell me how it was rigged, but you'll just lie and claim it is.
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  289.  @flatman  You are aware that it takes only 30 seconds to find videos where they "bring back" a boat, try and zoom in on another boat that's even farther away, and FAIL to bring it back right?
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  290. Yes: 90 degrees head on. Any angle that isn't completely perpendicular sees a circle as an oval.
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