Comments by "Kevin Skinner" (@kevinskinner4986) on "Shutting down flat Earthers, Neil deGrasse Tyson style | Big Think" video.

Just making sure, but you realize that these rewards are all scams, right? They're judged by an already biased party, so even if you could prove it, they'll just reject anything you said. One of the evolution ones a long time ago got caught lying about having an "Impartial Judge" when he himself was the judge and didn't even read the submissions. The point isn't to actually challenge people. It's to strut around going "Oh look, nobody managed to claim our prize, that means we're right". One of the Flat Earthers owes Wolfie about $400,000 from a different series of $100,000 challenges. Why aren't you demanding that that guy pays up? And who can remember Eric Dubay's $10,000 challenge, where he promised "detailed" rebuttals, then chickened out with one-line links to already debunked videos and excuses such as, and I quote "You can't learn anything about the shape of the Earth beneath your feet by looking at the sky". Oh. I guess the constellations not moving isn't proof that the Earth is flat after all. The High Priest Dubay has spoken. Fun fact, by the way, one of the students of the original Bedford Level Test performer put out a cash prize to anybody that could disprove it. When somebody did and tried to collect the prize, he was thrown in prison for making death threats.
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Without using "God moves in mysterious ways", explain why Flat Earth has an atmospheric pressure gradient that reaches practically 0 tens, hundreds, or thousands of miles below your "firmament" instead of expanding upwards to equalize pressure inside of it like it would any other container. Without using "Shut up globetard", explain why falling objects always know to fall down, even in a vacuum chamber (buoyancy does not exist without a surrounding fluid) and even in a situation where it would be... say.... surrounded on all sides with an equal amount of water, causing the pressure difference to be the same. It's not magnetism and not electrostatic force because both of those REPEL objects as well (note that both water and organic life are REPELLED by magnetism). Without using "But.... but.... no curvature!", explain why the close moon shows no rotation and acts like a Doom sprite that magically turns to face each individual person regardless of angle despite the fact that at your claimed distance, it would see dozens of degrees of rotation both over the course of the night and from different latitudes and why the stars in the Southern Hemisphere are magically 20,000 miles apart in opposite directions at the same time., By the way, globalism is an actual term dealing with political and economic policies geared towards international benefit as opposed to promoting local interest. It has nothing to do with the shape of the Earth. Stop using it.
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I remember when Eric Dubay put out a $10,000 challenge and promised to give well-detailed explanations why the attempts were wrong, and then when people actually challenged him, gave one-line links to videos that had already been debunked and ran like a scared little girl with excuses such as, and I quote "You can't learn anything about the shape of the ground beneath your feet from looking at the sky" when he was challenged on methods and details he didn't want to address. Oh. I guess that means you can stop using "Polaris doesn't move" as proof of Flat Earth because the Grand Priest Eric Dubay himself said it doesn't mean anything. By the way, Eric Dubay has a reputation for being a plagiarist. Many of his claims are stolen almost verbatim from other sources and he has videos with no evidence, like one I particularly enjoy where he calculates how far below the curve lighthouses would be hidden with thousands upon thousands of commenters praising it as the greatest thing since sliced bread..... despite providing no evidence that they can actually be seen at those distances. BRILLIANT!
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If the sun were 5,000 km high, it would mathematically need to be about 57,000 km from the viewer to fall below 5 degrees above a flat plane. That's three times the distance between the North Pole and your ice wall. You check the math for yourself. 5000/tan(5) = approximately 57150.26 How can you trust the photography that makes the Earth look flat when that same photography shows objects completely different sizes and dozens of degrees (horizontally and vertically) away from where they should mathematically be? Or are the sun, moon, and stars MAGICAL and not obey the same math that every object in the world does?
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@mikeFlatbird729 Why does this perspective sometimes apply, and sometimes not, or both at the same time, in ways that cannot be calculated and which follows no rules other than convenience? We have a word for that. It's called MAGIC.
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@mikeFlatbird729 The reason the ground appears to "rise to your eye level" is because the angle between your eyes and a point on the ground becomes smaller and smaller the further away it is. This angle is functionally a straight line at infinity. Yes, the sun will also reach that plane directly in front of you. HOWEVER, because it is higher, it will need to be further away to do so and unless there is another factor besides "perspective" (air disturbance, bending light, etc), it will do so at the same rate calculable with basic trigonometry. Do you understand? You want to use that "looking down a hallway" right? How close would the ceiling appear to the floor if instead of a hallway, you were in... say... an aircraft hangar with the ceiling fifty feet above you? It wouldn't be anywhere even close by the end of the building. Now, step outside that building and look for a cloud 5 miles high. It's even further away to get near the horizon! So how far away does a 3,000 mile high object to have to be to get close to the horizon? You should be able to calculate this. If you can't, you're making shit up. And even when the two do meet, it will NEVER become obstructed. It is impossible for the ground to ever obscure an object above it unless it gets between them and an object that reaches that horizon line does not MAGICALLY shrink so that half of the object is one millionth of the size of the other half with a cut so clean it can be made with a knife. The ENTIRE object shrinks together. You know those "disappearing objects on a table" videos? They're cons. The camera is placed below the table so it can only see the front edge. The object doesn't "shrink into the table" as ti moves back. It is actually being obstructed by the table. You said that there are "Celestial laws". What are these laws? Be specific.
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Okay, basic question. is it possible for the same object to be located thousands of miles apart in opposite directions on multiple axes simultaneously? A simple yes or no will do, as that is what happens when the observed and recorded motion of the stars in the Southern Hemisphere is drawn on the Flat Earth map.
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@repent.sinner So do you have any evidence that the sun sitting still...... you know.... actually happened? And wasn't simply made up?
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Genesis 1-29. God gives ALL fruit-bearing trees to man to be used as food. As written, and we all know that the Bible is written as truth, this technically includes all of the poisonous ones too and makes no claims otherwise, like the manchineel tree, whose fruit is like eating battery acid and whose sap can blind you from merely standing near it in the rain. So go on, eat one. Bible says that the manchineel fruit is edible. You wouldn't want to call God a liar would you?
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You're from Australia, huh? Question. Since you have probably been outside at least once, what direction do the stars move when you face south? Do they circle around a stationary point in the sky, or do they move flat to the horizon? Be honest.
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Would you believe in whatever religion you were raised in?
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@repent.sinner Do you know what Historical Fiction is? It's when you write fictional stories about real people, places, and events. The Romans executing a man for leading an insurrection proves that they executed a man for leading an insurrection. It does NOT give a scrap of evidence that that man could walk on water, turn water into wine, or any of the other supernatural claims the Bible makes. It's also very suspicious that none of those overwhelming historical documents thought it important to mention even the most egregious of supernatural phenomenon. Somebody would have noted the simultaneous earthquake, solar eclipse, and zombie infestation if such a thing had actually happened. Is Jerusalem like Tokyo where Godzilla attacks are less interesting than the weather? I would like to remind you that the Buddha was a real person too. He didn't actually have any mystical powers; he was just a wise man. And if he did, that means your entire religion is a lie. Also the founding prophets of Islam and Mormonism were most likely real people, both of whom are claimed to have performed miracles too.
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Level is also used to make a comparison against a standard
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Why would they waste millions of dollars doing that when they know that you'll call any sort of proof "fake" without looking at it? By the way, you realize that orbit is very, very large right? I would like to remind you that those satellites are smaller than a semi and you can't see a semi from an airplane, a mere six miles away, so how far away are you expecting to see these things when they are miles and miles apart?
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@knowledgewillincrease7508 And if they had put a hundred cameras, would you believe it? No, so why would they bother? Why would anybody with a working brain waste their time trying to appease you instead of focusing on what THEY need and leave you to rot?. You have a problem with sending a car? Well, it's a mock payload for a test, so it doesn't fucking matter if they sent a car or a dead rhinoceros. You didn't answer my question. How many satellites are you expecting to see when they are smaller than an 18-wheeler and spread out among over several hundred million square miles?
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@knowledgewillincrease7508 .... do you honestly beleive that myself or anybody else would be here if we had to pay money to do so?
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@boydmking1 You mean FIVE firmaments, right? One for the north and four for the south rotating against each other like gears? Your Flat Earth prophets did tell you that the stars in the Southern Hemisphere circle around a fixed point in the sky that is due south of Australia, Africa, South America, and the Pacific Islands simultaneously, right? Not only is it impossible for a dome to create a circle in any location except the center, a test that can be easily confirmed with a cullender, this also results in the same objects being magically 20,000 miles apart in opposite directions on multiple axes when drawn on YOUR map.
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@findingsolutions198 I have a question. You did use a MICROSCOPE to test if the water was clinging to it right? Or did you just ignore the fact that an object one trillionth of the size and mass would logically have one trillionth of the effect? By the way, we have liquids (made from water) that stick to magnets. They "find their level" around it and spin with the ball.
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@findingsolutions198 "i did It with a rotating tennis ball and the water went every direction , trust me , water doesn't stick but feel free to test this by yourself" Ah, so I see that you're a liar then. Okay.
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@truebeliever1062 Counter question: how do you know that anything in the Bible actually happened?
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@rogermoore7868 I was referring to the original poster, as most Flat Earthers tend to be "The world is lying blah blah" and it always comes down to Satan and hiding God.
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