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Comments by "Kevin Skinner" (@kevinskinner4986) on "Joe Rogan Experience #2141 - Bart Sibrel" video.

You can say Bart's "serious" all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that Bart's a known scam artist. He knows his stuff is garbage. He got caught and had to shut the comments off on his channel because of it. But he keeps being "serious" about it because it gets people to buy his junk.
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Because they don't want to be up on stage public speaking? Armstrong looks almost identical to conferences he gave after other missions several years beforehand.
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@thenoobassassin You mean like the fact that Bart's "faking the distance" video in A Funny Thing is deliberately edited to remove parts of it that disprove him? This inlcudes - muting the audio so you can't hear them discussing the picture quality they 'don't know is filming' (also, the comment that the "stop button popped back up" is very confusing, considering that every recorder I've ever used had the play and record buttons held, and the stop button disengages them.) - removing an extended shot of NASA asking them to prepare for interior shots them moving away from the window. Bart is literally the only person on the planet who claims they were still against the window. - and hiding shots of them switching between windows less than 15 seconds after clips he used and which there is zero possible way he didn't know about unless he didn't watch the footage because they literally zoom out and show the camera a foot from the glass filming an object that's clipping outside. Bart knows it's garbage. He was confronted about it more than ten years ago, and it wasn't hard to find. All they had to do was compare his version to NASA's. He's been pushing it for twenty years because he knows his followers won't fact check him. They'll simply believe anything he tells them. Do you want me to go find the full breakdown of every lie in A Funny Thing? It's an hour and a half long so use the restroom first.
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@thenoobassassin Oh, by the way, if he's still pushing the "Cannon Air Force Base interview" lie, it's full of anachronisms. That's when something's obviously false because the details are wrong for the time period they supposedly happened. The name "Operation Slam Dunk" is obvioulsy fake because the term "slam dunk" was invented in the mid-70s by Laker's announcer Chick Hearn, several years after the moon landigns. His list of people present includes people that had already been retired for years, who nobody can find, or who have no business being there like like Roswell UFO coverup people, so is most likley fabricated And Bart forgot to check the date of the fire they're trying to pretend "destroyed the evidence" because the "confession recording date" is a year and a half before the fire he talks about in it. We know the date because the family put out a GoFundMe. Ooops.
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The Earth spins once per day. That's 15 degrees, of a 360 degree circle, per hour. You would need a time lapse to see that MEANWHILE, the speed to maintain orbit is about 18x faster than the Earth's rotation..... if they were in orbit, you'd see the clouds and landmasses changing over the course of the video.
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..... but microwaves and beta radiation are two completely different things. You might as well be comparing fire and acid.
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..... you mean.... testing out the technology you need before you do anything more than simply landing and coming back? Things like life support systems, limited resource recycling, reusable spacecraft, long-term space medical experiments, space engineering, and all of the other stuff you need if you want to even think about colonization and permanent bases? Sorry that real advancement is boring and not mad science bs.
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Because he was caught red-handed manipulating his "faking the distance" video to skip over shots of them filming without his fake trick.
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You know that Bart's a con artist that's been repeatedly been caught lying about and faking his evidence, right? The video of them "faking the distance" is edited to remove them moving away from the window he tries to claim they hadn't been next to, and to hide them filming out the square and triangular windows without an insert just FYI
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You don't get it, do you? Bart and his "proof" have been debunked for ages. The slimeball was caught red-handed editing his so-called "proof" to remove parts of it that disproved him over ten years ago. That's why he doesn't let people comment on his channel.
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@rawveganterra Pride, plus lack of interest in learning anything, is generally called "arrogance".
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@tedoneil7464 You are taking into account that A. Bart's a fraud who has manipulated his videos (it's heavily suspected that he tried to ask one of the astronauts about Skylab and passed it off as being about Apollo ) and B. He harassed them off camera too, right? I mean..... that's why Bart's no longer a cameraman: he got fired after being arrested for stalking and trespassing against Armstrong.
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Bart's not here. Bart would never dare show up in a comment system where he can be challenged. He shut off the comments on his own channel after he was caught editing details out of his videos to skip over parts that disproved him Bart knows the moon landings were real, by the way. He's a scam artist in it to get people to buy his merchandise.
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Good question, but not for the reason you think You see, the Earth only rotates once per day. That's 15 degrees per hour, or .25 degrees per minute out of a 360 degree circle. That's simply too slow to watch without a time lapse of several hours. HOWEVER, the speed to maintain orbit around the Earth and not come back down is about 17,000 miles per hour, almost 20 times faster than the Earth's rotation, and the clips Bart used are about 12-15 minutes long each. If the astronauts were in orbit, they would have crossed between 1/8th and 1/6th of the entire planet during that time, and we would have seen entire oceans or continents pass by. Note that geosynchronous orbit requires being able to cross the Van Allen Belts. So..... why is there minimal change between the beginning and end of these clips, which have been freely and publicly accessible on Youtube for ages? Either the astronauts are at least far enough away to be in geosynchronous orbit, or they aren't filming the Earth at all. Either way, Bart's wrong.
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Congress refused to pay for both a new return plan to the moon, and maintaining the 30-year-old Space Shuttle program, at the same time.
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Bart was caught red-handed editing his "faking the distance' video to skip over shots of them filming without his trick (which doesn't work btw) more than ten years ago. Instead of stopping, he continued pushing it and shut off the comments on his channel so people couldn't point out his many, many lies. is that what "courage and integrity" means to you? Pushing a lie you know is false and blocking your critics?
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They're explicitly talking about the electronics and computers in that video, not radiation poisoning. They have to test the ship to make sure it works just like every other vehicle that's made before it's considered safe for human use. This is standard practice with every vehicle, and modern computers use hardware that didn't exist in the 60s. Or is it suspicious that cars are still testing seat belts decades later? It doesn't matter if the astronauts get sick or not if the ship crashes because all their stuff stops working. Just FYI, integrated circuits, which replaced the magnetic core memory which Apollo used in the 70s, is inherrently weaker to radiation and static electricity and becomes even weaker the smaller and more compact you make them. The very technology that makes them so useful makes them much, much more fragile.
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NASA didn't give the museum that rock. Private citizens that never received a moon rock donated it without having it checked with the ASSUMPTION it was a moon rock because of when it was given to them. You know that NASA only gave that country two rocks, and that both are accounted for in another museum, right? You have an extra rock and that doesn't immediately raise a red flag? Can't even tell the difference between 2 and 3. Sesame Street is very disappointed with you.
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Did you include the part where Buzz continues talking, clearly indicates he's talking about going back, blames it on money, then says they went 2-3 more times in the same paragraph?
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"If the moon landing was real how in the hell was the camera already set up showing the first step lol" The cqmera was attached to the ship. It's very easy to find pictures of it sitting in its holder "Another thing what I wanna kno is, how come we've never been back" Because it cost about a hundred and thirty billion dollars adjusted for inflation and the technology used to do so was a dead end that's not suitable for sustained missions because you have to build an entirely new ship and rocket every single launch.
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As an MMO healer, I can guarantee you that most NPCs are smarter than you people. An NPC can be trained to follow directions. Brainless PCs like you never learn that standing in the glowing orange circle is a bad thing. You can enjoy your time on the floor. It's a waste of my MP to raise you
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@ For reference, beta radiation (the primary problem in the belts) isn't electromagnetic radiation like microwaves or x rays. They're subatomic particles that have concentrated in the magnetic belts like toxins in the liver. Beta radiation typically uses low-density shielding, not high-density like other forms, because it creates secondary radiation when it hits heavy metals. This same process (called bremsstrahlung) is how your doctor makes their x-rays in the first place.
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Because it was corrosive, yes. But the design had been tested in previous trial runs on Apollo 7-10
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There's actually a well-known optical illusion where the moon looks larger to you than it actually is when you measure it. Also, the lens you use to take pictures of objects changes the size of objects, with certain types causing background objects to shrink. There's a cool montage.....s omewhere on the internet, I don't remember where, of a guy standing in place and switching out his lenses. You can watch the size of his truck and the barn behind it change and swap sizes.
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Bart got caught editing out a section of them moving away from the window when his video got compared to the raw footage. He also got caught editing around sections of them filming out the square and triangle windows within seconds of clips he used.
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"Name one other time explorers reached new land, went there 6 times, then decided thats enough we dont need to go there ever again." Okay. The South Pole wasn't revisited for 40 years. The Marianas Trench, the deepest part of the ocean, wasn't revisited for 52.
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They had batteries and fuel cells Yes, they took radio equipment with them, both supplemental and attached to the ship, and there's nothing to block line of sight between the Earth and the moon.
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First of all, most Hollywood shots only last 3-5 seconds at at time. Accurately filming low gravity for hours using conventional special effects is impossible. Every single method has obvious flaws that would be found on rewatch taht simply aren't present (for example, wires only affect that astronauts, not the dust or objects swinging on them attached to their suit, and you can't cross paths otherwise the wires tangle.) You need cinematographic tricks that are decades ahead of their time and have never been recreated without CGI to get the special effects right. Second, you can't keep the money. if you don't pay your publicly bidding contractors the money you promised them to get you to the moon, they publicly sue you for breach of contract and the entire thing goes up in smoke.
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It took almost 50 years to return to the South Pole and over 50 years to return to the deepest part of the ocean. You want to have colonies on the moon? Okay. Show the me the industrial terraforming, hydroponics, and recycling technology that would be required to run a colony on a barren lifeless wasteland 240,000 miles from food, air, or water.
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By the way, we also don't currently farm a good meat supply for a lunar colony. When you do create your unrealistic society on the moon, I suggest snakes. You can feed them vermin and unusable waste meats, they're more feed efficient than any of the standard meat sources we currently use, they can fast without food for months without losing body mass, and they require almost no water.
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No. Telescope resolution is limited by the size of your telescope. You're looking for objects two feet wide at a distance where the largest telescopes we have can barely see things a hundred feet across. There's an even larger one being made right now. Wait a few years and they might be able to catch the remains of the landers. Not sure the specs on them.
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@rawveganterra Then why do you precious hoaxer leaders have to constantly lie about their evidence?
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@rawveganterra You admit that the people claiming the moon landing was a fake are using fake evidence? Well done, little boy, gold star, and a smiley face sticker for you.. Keep up the good work.
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@rawveganterra And you knew full well that I was talking about the hoax claimants, who you know full well are lying. Putting on a grown-up's dress doesn't make you a woman, sweetie. You have done nothing here but butt into conversations, go "Haha you're all stupid LOLOLOL" and think that actually makes you smart, then stick your fingers in your ears every time facts are discussed. That's how an 6-year-old acts, not a woman. Now then, are you going to meaningfully contribute, or are you going to run off and let me speak to mommy instead?
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So.... you know that you can compress oxygen into a liquid, and that liquid oxygen takes up about 1/800th the volume of the same quantity of room temperature air, right? And that the type of batteries used on a spaceship cost millions of dollars, a price tag you won't pay, right?
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The first time humans reached the South Pole was in December of 1911.. The second successful trip to the South Pole (after a failed attempt in 1912 that failed to return alive) was reached by Sir Edmund Hillary, the first man to climb Mt Everest, in January of 1958, Just over 46 years years later. The first descent to the Marianas Trench, the deepest part of the Ocean, was in 1960. It wasn't repeated until 2012, 52 years later, when James Cameron decided to film a IMAX down there. Care to explain?
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@tubecated_development It's a reference to the video game Bioshock, which involves an ultracapitalist founding a city at the bottom of the ocean. Great game, by the way. 10/10, would recommend.
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....... Bart has no reason to lie? That's a joke, right? He's made tens of thousands of dollars off this scam selling junk merchandise to gullible people. Money is always a reason to lie.
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@rawveganterra Uh-huh. And that's why the footage of them switching between windows and has been accessible in its unedited length on Youtube free of charge for what... ten years? Close to fifteen now? If NASA were actually caught, why was Bart so scared of criticism he had to hide away?
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@rawveganterra But the truth has been revealed: Your fellow hoaxers lied. They got caught, and now you're in denial because you hate the truth.
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Why would they be in PA if it was either filmed at Area 51 or on the set of 2001, which was in London?
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@rsv3857 1. I don't believe you actually found those suits. 2. The "Cannon air force confession" doesn't hold water. It only took a day for people to realize it was full of errors, including half a dozen anachronisms (which is an error where details in a story contradict the time frame it takes place in). Also, the date Bart claims the video was filmed on was a year and a half before the man's house actually burned down. We know the date because his family put out a GoFundMe for it.
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@SergeantDom So how many times did he admit that he was caught red-handed editing the footage to skip over them filming the earth outside the window without his fake trick?
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@ Well.... yes, because it was, but if it wasn't, Bart's still lying to you about how it was filmed. Didn't think that through, did you?
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..... you got punked. Bart was caught red-handed editing his footage to remove about a 1-2 minute segment between them saying they're against the window and the lights turning on where NASA tells them to prepare for interior shots, the astronauts openly state they are moving back, and you can watch the Earth change size as they do. He also mutes the audio to hide them openly talking about the picture quality they don't know is being filmed. He also got caught hiding clips of them filming about one foot away from the square and triangular windows mere seconds within clips he used
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There were two missions that circled the moon before Apollo 11. Earthrise was taken on Apollo 8, which was several months before.
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In order for something to be a fact, it has to actually be true. Bart's well known for lying about and manipulating his evidence.
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Armstrong looks exactly like he does in his post-Gemni press conference
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@JohnMitchem-e2k Answer the question. Why do the stars not appear in skyline photographs of New York City?
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@JohnMitchem-e2k ....... buildings don't emit smoke like that. That's factories, which are in industrial areas. They don't have stars because..... get this..... the exposure settings on the camera are too fast to capture the stars without overexposing the city. That's why they also don't typically appear in pictures of the moon taken from Earth unless you overexpose it to the point that the lunar mares are completely washed out. If you see one that has them, you're probably looking at AI/Photoshop.
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Really? Every steel mill in the country has suits designed for temperatures 2,000 degrees hotter than are on the moon. Edit: That's not an exaggeration. Insdustrial and firefighting proximity suits for working inside industrial furnaces and putting out aircraft fires are rated with resistances to proximity/radiant heat (sunlight is radiant) of 2-3,000 degrees. Radiant heat's the easiest form to guard because you can reflect it.
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Wide angle lenses cause background objects to shrink.
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@lowkey213 The moon's actually pretty small as seen from Earth. It just looks big because there's an optical illusion that makes it look larger in the sky than it is. It's only ~.5 degrees across. A US Penny is about 1.2 when sitting 3 feet away. Formula for how large an object should appear at a given distance is 2arctan (diameter/ (2 * distance)) by the way.
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Yeah, as the biggest fraud The entire debunking community knows that he's been caught faking evidence.
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So, how many of you so-called "alphas" are secretly gay? Very few straight people care about another man's testosterone and I doubt you are either his doctor or his personal trainer so I would assume you're looking to score.
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The family that donated the "fake moon rock" admitted over ten years ago that it had simply been assumed to be a moon rock based on when it was given (a year before the actual moon rock gifts while they were sitting in a quarantine vault) and because it was sitting in his stuff with the invitation card for the tour dinner and they donated it without having it appraised.
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I mean, he was quiet and withdrawn in his interviews before Apollo too. Even his teachers and classmates described him as such. His Gemini post-mission press conference has him squirming like he's sitting on an anthill while talking about how exciting space flight is complete monotone. This is also the guy that almost died in a training accident crash, then headed back to his office to fill out paperwork like nothing happened.
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He's been doing that for almost 25 years now. Back in the day, he went around claiming that one show refuse to have him for being "too hard to debunk" after he refused to show up without being paid an additional several thousand dollar appearance fee.
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.... no, in the 60s, they had almost ten years of development, with more than double its current budget adjusted for inflation.
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Armstrong looks almost identical to his other post-mission press conferences. He did one after Gemini 8 where his sits there mumbling in a monotone while fidgeting like he's sitting on an anthill. Aldrin's personal life is absolute shit. His mother committed suicide about a year before the mission from depression, his marriage is falling apart, and he had a big fight with NASA before the mission because he was originally supposed to be First Man and they changed it and made excuses. He has plenty of reason to be upset without the missions being fake Collins mostly looks groggy and bored. Last time I watched it, I caught him yawning.
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It's nearly impossible for a celebrity to win a defamation lawsuit under US law. The proof required for a public figure to win is so high that most don't bother.
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There's no aerodynamics in space. You can rotate the ship in flight in whatever direction you want (and do so to distribute the sunlight heat load).
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It doesn't fill up the whole window. Bart got caught hiding parts of the clips he used where the camera can be seen about a foot from the window and moving between windows. That blue window's just glare.
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.... the hoaxers were caught lying about that ages ago. They tried to act like they were putting a brick through and hoped you wouldn't realize that humans can alter their side-to-side width by moving their arms.
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@well.thy.one. Okay, you know how we know it's far away, right? When you move around, the size and angle that an object you are relative to an object causes its visible position and angle to change. This is called "paralax". The farther away an object is, the less it changes. A 3-dimensional sphere, when you move around, shows rotation A 2-dimensional circle, when viewed from any angle other than straight on, skews into an oval. We do not see this rotation or skewing, especially not to the degree if the moon were only a few miles high which would have more than 90 degrees of rotation between London and the British territory in the Falkland islands. You have three options which it is. 1. The moon is far enough away that parallax is not visible no matter where you are on Earth, which by basic trigonometry puts it in the hundreds of thousands of miles away. 2. The moon does not exist, and is an illusion that is psychically projected into your brain that turns to face every single person on Earth individually like a video game sprite. 3. God moves in mysterious ways, so stop asking questions.
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Um... first of all, that's something you can calculate if you know the delay, the distance, and the rate of raise. Second, they only did it perfectly on the last mission, not the first time they tried it.
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Stars are extremely dim to cameras. In order for them to show up, you need exposure settings hundreds of times longer than are filmed for daytime shots. That's why they don't appear in city skyline pictures or pictures of the moon taken from Earth. If they were visible in the Apollo photographs and videos, everything in the foreground would be overexposed into a blinding blur.
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Then why did Bart have to lie for three hours?
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Because we did.
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@ Also because.... you know.... Sibrel was caught lying about and faking his evidence and had to shut the comments off on his channel because he was caught red-handed the instant that people played his version and NASA's side-by-side. Bet he didn't mention that on his website did he?
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@Michael0416 Bart's in this solely to make money. He's a known fraud. He had to shut the comments off on his channel ten years ago because he was caught red-handed manipulating his evidence.
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You shouldn't. Bart had to shut the comments off on his channel almost ten years ago because he was caught red-handed manipulating his evidence.
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Bart got caught editing the footage to remove the astronauts moving away from the window and removing shots of them filming without his trick. His claims didn't stand up for five seconds after anybody else got their hands on that footage.
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@litha9627 Bart got caught lying about his so-called exposure the instant somebody else got a hold of the original and compared versions. There's a reason Bart refuses to let people comment on his channel. He was exposed as a fraud over a decade ago. But your own bias won't let you believe it
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He has a youtube channel. He doesn't let people comment on it, because he was caught faking evidence ten years ago.
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@Cali8842 ..... Aldrin's still alive.
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Wide angle lenses cause background objects in photographs to shrink. The moon, taken from Earth with a wide angle lens, is barely larger than Venus.
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@NousoftheSupreme ...... you know that if a rocket hit the dome at full speed, it would most likely be DESTROYED by the impact, not "full stop", right?
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@ First of all, there's a high chance that the ship is still partially destroyed by inertia. Second, the field wouldn't stop the water outside from immediately pouring in.
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And Russia didn't defend their honor, despite already knowing the reasons it was "impossible" and having more than six months to prepare to catch them in the act after NASA "faked" Apollo 8?
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"Free website"????? That's the most unbelievable thing I've ever heard. Bart's in this to make money. The only reason his videos are "free" on Youtube is because it's too late to stop piracy, so he puts them up and attacks any mirror he finds more aggressively than Disney so he gets all of the monetization click money.
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Satan is a scapegoat. God couldn't stand that Adam and Eve didn't need Him after creating a perfect world, and so caused the fall to be the "savior" to the problems he created to justify their need for him.
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But it doesn't disappear. If you actually watch it, it stays right where it is, even after Bart says they're "removing it", until the instant the lights come on. That "close earth" is just glare on the window. By the way, Bart had to shut the comments off on his Youtube channel after he got caught hiding them filming out the square and triangular windows.
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@mycupoftea3866 No, Bart is. He's well known for it. Had to shut the comments off on his channel after he was caught editing his "faking the distance to the moon' video to cut out shots of them filming without his fake trick. That was ten years ago.
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No. Telescope resolution is determined by the size of your telescope, and the flag are too small to be seen with any telescope we have the technology to build.
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Bart got caught hiding a video clip where they move between filming the Earth out different windows.
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Just as a head's up, Bart got caught editing out about a two minute segment where the astronauts move the camera away from the window, openly discussing that they're doing so in order to prepare for interior shots. The only person claiming it was supposed to be against the window then is Bart himself. He also got caught editing out them filming about six inches from a fully illuminated window with no insert or anything on the glass.
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@monkeyb1820 Bart used the clip of the astronauts saying they were against the window, then removed about a 1-2 minute long segment between that and the lights coming on where the camera can be seen adjusting position and moving away from the window as the astronauts talk about the interior shots. Bart simply pretended they'd been that far the entire time, then made sure you didn't see the footage of them moving the camera. There's also a clip of them filming out one of the square windows before moving to one of the triangle ones. That's ~15 seconds after a clip Bart uses in A Funny thing. He shut off the comments on his channel after being confronted about that. These were found by comparing Bart's footage to the original unedited raw footage.
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Doubtful. The CIA almost certainly knows that Bart was caught lying about and faking his evidence by now. He was caught a very long time ago. If he was a plant, he could have destroyed him by calling him out to his face.
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Bart used to go around claiming he was rejected from a debunking show because his work was "too difficult to debunk" when in fact he refused to show up because they wouldn't pay him a 2-3K additional "appearance fee"
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His videos are Astronauts Gone Wild and A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon, and don't bother; he's a scam artist. He had to shut the comments off on his channel because he was caught red-handed chopping details out of the footage he used that blatantly disproved him. That "faking the distance" video of his? It's edited to remove the astronauts moving away from the window, edited to mute the astronauts openly discussing the footage they supposedly don't know is filming, and edited to remove shots of them filming without his fake trick.
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Glass Ceiling is a slang from the 70s about women and minorities not receiving equal pay and promotion in the corporate workforce to white men. It has nothing to do with your fake dome.
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If the fake flood really caused the fossils, why are there zero humans in the fossil record when the Flood was explicitly to kill the humans? No humans, no building remains, no tools, just a lot of neatly stacked things that don't exist anymore..... Come on, when is fraud religion going to find the pre-Flood bronze hammer buried in the t-rex pit?
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..... but anybody with two brain cells knows the hoaxers will go "That's fake too!"
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Whoever is telling you it's stainless steel is lying to you. Spacecraft need to be made of light materials, not just because of liftoff, but because the belts are made of beta radiation, which creates secondary radiation when it hits heavy metals. The process is called Brehmsstralung (or however it's spelled), and the x-ray machine at your dentist has a device to do this same process deliberately.
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So, you know that there are shots of the camera zooming out and you can clearly see them filming the Earth that's outside of the ship and clipping with the window sill, right? Both Bart Sibrel and David Percy were caught lying about that a very, very long time ago. Also, David Percy lied on the first piece of evidence in his video; Percy cherry picks frames from his film to claim that a detail is "missing" despite being clearly visible less than a second before before getting obscured by camera angle - which you can see in the footage he himself used. He also cropped his version of the "non-parallel shadows" picture to hide rocks whose shadows were changing direction to match the LEM and prevent people from seeing that they bend and angle when the ground isn't flat. He also was busted lying about his "slow motion" playback speeds by Jarrah White trying to defend him, because Jarrah filmed himself setting it to the the same speed as Percy and proving to the world he doesn't know how percents work. He deliberately showed the worst quality reproductions to people and pretended they were the originals. He also conspired with absolute frauds, like a "scientist" who rigged his tests with conditions that failed to match what he was testing again, and an interview with a woman who 'saw the coke bottle on set' who forgot that the Earth has time zones when fabricating her story and that nighttime in the UK is daytime in Australia. Also, Percy's coauthor is a professional scam artist that makes her living pretending to have psychic powers, and their website got caught fabricating fictional 'scientists' to write their articles Shall I keep going on why Percy's a scumbag? That's just what I remember off the top of my head.
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@Tinywars And you haven't understood mine Moon colonies are too far above our current technology level to be feasible. It's one thing to get there for three days. It's another to station people there for months or years at a time. They would cost too much to run and perform too little use with our current ability to be worth it and every single person in our government, the people that actually control NASA's budget, knows this You know that Apollo style rockets can only be used a single time, right? Would you like to explain to Congress how you plan to make a colony economically viable when you have to build a brand new ship, which costs hundreds of millions of dollars to even launch and which would need to be big and heavy enough to carry bulk supplies, every single time you want to deliver food and water? I'm more than willing to speculate on the logistics of such an endeavor. You won't like it.
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Just as a head's up, you can combust without air by mixing in your own supply of air, or another chemical that does the same thing. That's why gunpowder, which contains potassium nitrate, burns in a vacuum.
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Well.... yeah. Do you expect debates from a guy that had to shut the comments off on his channel ten years ago because he was caught lying about and manipulating his evidence?
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@GoatReactz There is nothing between the belt and the moon except trillions of cubic miles of empty space. Nobody's going to cross the belts until they go back because there's no point in building a larger ship to go a farther distance across a "deadly barrier" you don't need to cross just to say you did.
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@edwardr9130 Wait. Wait wait wait wait wait. Are you saying that NASA wouldn't have the ability to make a container for liquid oxygen because of the pressure, despite liquid oxygen being a commonly stored, used, and transported item?
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@tubecated_development Why hasn't Elon Musk built Rapture yet?
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Bart knows the moon landings were real. He's a scam artist that's been caught outright manipulating and faking evidence.
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Because if it doesn't have wires holding it out, it will immediately fall limp on the pole.
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Bart was caught red-handed manipulating his "halfway to the moon" footage to remove parts of the original that disproved him because people weren't stupid and compared versions. That includes shots of them filming without his trick, which doesn't work in a moving vehicle by the way. That's why he doesn't let people comment on his channel.
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@rsv3857 First of all, I do not believe for a second you actually found those suits. You are not the first to claim to have found secret hidden relics, and you won't be the last. Don't pretend to have found something that you didn't. Second, the "Cannon air force base" is pretty obviously false. It only took minutes for people to realize that it's full of anachronisms. If you don't know what that is, it's an error in a story caused by details that contradict the timeline. This includes: - Naming the mission "Slam Dunk" even though the term was invented in the mid-70s by Lakers announcer Chick Hearn AFTER Apollo (it was "dunk shot" before that) - Claiming the presence of people that were already dead or retired (as well as out of place people that have nothing to do with Apollo) - Claiming a date where LBJ's whereabouts are known Also Bart Sibrel (who made the video and is a known con artist) is obviously lying about when it was filmed because he chose a date a year and a half before the man's house burned down; we have a date for that because his family put out a GoFundMe to raise money for him. Most likely, the man's lying because he lost everything and Sibrel offered to pay him if he did. Investigating details does not mean automatically believing everything you find on the internet. If the hoax claims reek like gym socks, it's a good sign that they're wrong.
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Did your Disruptors interivew with Bart mention that he had to shut off the comments on his channel ten years ago because he was caught red-handed manipulating his evidence and deliberately removing parts of the footage he used that outright disproved his lies?
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@ClappyCakes You didn't hear how Bart was caught red-handed editing his "faking the distance" video to remove shots of them filming without his made-up trick? You should ask him about it. Oh wait, you can't, because he shot off the comments on his channel after people started making sid4e-by-side comparison videos. Poor poor hoaxer, still thinks the "truth seekers" actually tell the truth. 😂😂😂😂
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@Nilz4FR And no comments about Bart lying to you? And it still makes me laugh when hoaxers run away to a new topic whenever they know they're wrong. Didn't even ask me to show it because you knew you were wrong.
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.....but Kubrick died in 1999. Are you saying they waited 20 years after The Shining, giving him two more decades to spread more evidence? Bull. If he were that problematic, they would have shut him up immediately.
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@SG-yd2nf Collins did not "accidentally read Buzz's lines". He was responding to a comment about a set of photographs taken of the solar corona (the hazy part of the sun that's invisible unless something is blocking it), which was done in the Command Module from Lunar Orbit in his presence. Also, we know that the "elbowing" is bogus. There's two camera shots of this, and you can see in the front camera that not only are they sitting too far apart, but Armstrong moves the elbow backwards towards himself. There's a reason the hoaxers never, ever show the front camera of that statement.
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@TheForce_Productions ..... because showing somebody doing something, then lying about what it shows is a form of defamation called "False Light?" You know that you can be sued for lying about people, right? Also, he was "attacked' because he was stalking. Why did Bart edit the footage to remove the astronauts moving away from the window, and why has he spent the last twenty years hiding the shots of them filming without his trick that doesn't even work that are within seconds of clips he uses in his video?
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Armstrong looks identical to his body language in his post Gemini press conference. He spends twenty minutes talking in a monotone while squirming like he's sitting on an anthill.
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@JohnMitchem-e2k Your father is looking down from whatever afterlife they're in apologizing to the shame you brought his family. Here's one for you: why do stars not appear in pictures of the New York City skyline at night?
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Head's up: We know immediately that the "lead shield" claim is completely bogus because the Belts are the wrong type of radiation for lead shielding. Lead is used for X and Gamma rays. The belts are Alpha and Beta particles. Alpha can be blocked by paper. Beta radiation requries LOW-DENSITY shielding like aluminum or plastic because it creates secondary radiation when it hits heavy metals. This same process is how your dentist creates their x-rays in the first place, just FYI.
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8x bigger than the moon's a little larger than a pool ball at arm's length. If the astronauts were in orbit, we'd see the cloud formations changing as the ship moves and you wouldn't be able to maintain the illusion for more than a few seconds.
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@lowkey213 Complete nonsense. Density doesn't match and they would have figured that out the instant the seismograph was invented.
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Well yeah, since they put several plants and animals through them and brought them back safely years before.
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...... how would photos prove anything? Hoaxers will simply claim "That photo's fake too!" so NASA knows that unless they have any real business up there, spending millions of dollars on photos is a colossal waste of money.
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@tubecated_development 2-6 were unmanned tests. 7 was a manned test, 8 went around the moon, 9 was a test practice on Earth, and 10 was a test practice in lunar orbit. So that's 4 previous flights.
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Every one of the allies took German scientists. We did, the British did, the French did, and the Soviets took more than we did.
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@djuro14 Okay. How many bananas have you eaten in your life?
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.... but Operation Starfish was thousands of miles below the height you people claim the sun and moon are at, and you claim they're inside, not outside, the firmament. Also, how did Operation Starfish not create a faction war among the elite? There's water outside of your dome. If you break it, the water rushes in and everybody dies. The elite that are concerned with earthly wealth and power would have attempted to take the doomsday cult out back and put them down like rabid dogs. Von Braun spent 20 years before his death trying to merge science and religion, criticizing people like you who rejected science for religion, and promoting space travel as the way to explore God's creation. Clearly, his tombstone is meant as an allegorical heavens, to mean everything in the skies, not a literal dome.
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Stephen King, who notoriously hates the Kubrick version of his book, watched Room 237 and called it the biggest piece of bullshit he ever watched.
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@teamheartpower442 He's the guy that wrote The Shining.
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There's another line Armstrong makes about parrots that people say is "proof they didn't go" If anybody ever mentions it, it's a quote by Wilbur Wright of the Wright Brothers that's a very fancy way of saying "I hate public speaking" after people tried to make him give a speech.
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Any geologist respected enough to see one of those rocks would instantly know if it's from Antarctica. Meteorites contain glass from the heat of entry, and meteorites on Earth are aged by how much rust they contain. Exposure to air, water, and ice causes permanent, irreversible chemical changes to the minerals in rocks. Removing these would require tools that would leave very visible indicators.
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Well..... he is. He literally got caught faking evidence over ten years ago.
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Bart was caught over a decade ago manipulating his evidence.
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He didn't. The hoaxers cut off the part where he indicates he's talking about going back and then answers his own question, blaming it on money.
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...... but if they were underwater, the dust they kick up with every single step would be in suspension, not fall back down immediately.
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He doesn't have one. His main goal is getting you to buy is overpriced merchandise.
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It'll show the Earth in a darkened window. Head's up, the original footage has a clip where the camera zooms out for a moment and you can see the fully illuminated window with the small Earth outside before moving to film out a different window. Bart knows that it's there. It was seconds after clips he used.
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It was discovered more than a decade before. They did tests in the lower levels during Gemini. Russia put animals through and had no deaths except for non-radiation causes.
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Raise of hands. Who actually believes that story that's over the age of ten?
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No. The hoaxers cut off the rest of the response where he clearly indicates he's talking about going back, blames it on money, and says they went 2-3 more times in the same paragraph.
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@ProSanity-n5v Meteorites contain glass from the heat of entry, and exposure to air and water causes the minerals inside to rust
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@ProSanity-n5v Any method you did so would leave tool marks. Fun fact, by the way. The moon rocks samples are observed to have strike marks from the micrometeorites that hit the moon. Those features would absolutely be destroyed by entry.
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The Van Allen Belts are beta radiation. Beta radiation is industrially shielded with low-density materials like aluminum, plastic, and acrylic glass because it creates secondary radiation when it hits heavy metals.
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Bart would never show up. He never, ever goes anywhere where anybody will actually debate him because he knows he's a fraud. There's a reason he shut off the comments on his channel - he was caught red-handed.
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@ That video of them "faking the distance?" It's edited to remove shots of them filming without his trick.
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And before his death, he spent 20 years criticizing people that rejected science for religion, or religion for science, and calling for space travel to be used as the best way to explore God's creation. It's pretty clear he believed in the firmament to mean the heavens allegorically, not a literal dome.
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Bart would never agree to the debate. He's one of those people that talks big, but runs away when challenged. He'd also get absolutely demolished by anybody that's actually prepared, especially since he was caught faking evidence.
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You Flat Earthers really are dishonest, aren't you? "Glass Ceiling" has nothing to do with your fictional god and your fictional dome. It's a slang from the 70s referring to women receiving less pay and promotion than men.
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69 is also the year the predecessor to the internet was invented.
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"And when a reporter chased buzz aldrin with a bible, why didnt buzz swear on it that we went to the moon ?" Why should he? Bart's a lying, harassing stalker that called him hundreds of miles out of his way by lying about who he was. That was AFTER, by the way, he got himself arrested for stalking Armstrong. If somebody treated me the way Bart treated the astronauts off camera, I wouldn't swear to anything he asked of me purely out of spite and I would gladly look God dead in the eyes and tell him that straight to his face.
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So fun fact: Russia sent a probe up at the same time. They knew exactly where Apollo would be flying and would have tracked it as far as they could because the two countries met up to discuss their flight plans so the two didn't collide
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Russia sent two ship fulls of animals and plants through well before Apollo. The deaths they had were from non-radiation sources like cabin depressurization.
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It took 40 years to return to the South Pole It took 52 years to return to the Marianas Trench, the deepest part of the ocean. It took almost 90 years to repeat the circumnavigation of the globe.
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"Remember when Nixon spoke to Armstrong ON A LANDLINE?" ...... and? The ability to switch a landline call to a radio broadcast was over 30 years old at that point.
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"Why would you show a video of people talking and then you put a voiceover explaining what they are saying in your dramatic tone with your dramatic music." Because he has to mute that audio to hide what they're actually saying. You're right to think this guy seems like a scammer: he's notorious for lying in his videos.
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...... cell phones don't work in mountains because you have millions of tons rock and trees blocking the signal.
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@westnewwest4325 ..... fenders exist to protect everything else from the dirt and rocks flung up by wheels. They don't exist to protect the wheel. Also, the rover doesn't have tires. The wheels are metal mesh.
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Bart's a massive coward. He shut the comments off on his channel more than 10 years ago because he got confronted about the fact that he faked evidence. Most of these conspiracy theorists are horrible debaters. They only make appearances where they can expect to talk unquestioned. A person that was prepared would have shredded him beyond repair.
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But Armstrong wasn't Christian. He literally did not believe that your Bible was the truth.
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@JCs-hypeman He was not a freemason, otherwise the freemasons would be claiming that he was the first Mason on the moon, not Aldrin. You probably shouldn't go around accusing people of being masons or demon worshipers or what have you. If you know that you're just making accusations, you will be judged for that. Also, the masons invented flight with the hot air balloon, discovered electricity, improved the steam engine to the point of being viable for the industrial revolution, discovered DNA, and overhauled sanitation and sterilization during surgery. They'd be the first to go "We don't care that it's dangerous. We're doing it anyways" when your Christians couldn't rise off your knees to try.
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@JCs-hypeman Armstrong was not a mason, otherwise the Masons would be bragging that he, not Aldrin, was the first Mason on the moon. Also, Christians haven't been terribly honest about the masons, who they , what they do. You characterize them as evil schemers, not their honest pisitions and contributions to science and society, because your church is threatened and fears losing power. I would suggest not lying about them any further. You will be judged for that. If they hadn't left orbit, Bart wouldn't have been caught editing his footage to hide them filming without his trick far outside orbit when his version was compared to NASA's.
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But the Netherlands rock wasn't one of the Apollo rocks. it was a completely unrelated rock that the minister;'s family donated without having apprised because they ASSUMED it was a moon rock. The actual moon rocks weren't even given out until a year AFTER that "moon rock"; when he received it, they were still in a quarantine vault and all several hundred of them are all sealed in airtight containers, not presented loose on a piece of cardboard. By the way, both of the Netherlands NASA moon rocks were given to their royal family, not their prime minister, and both of them are currently accounted for. It should have been a massive red flag for you that your story was iffy when they should have two rocks and somehow had three. You know the family has already publicly admitted that they made a mistake, not that NASA was lying, right?
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"still believe the US went to the moon and walked on the moon in almost 300c heat." The max temperature on the moon's about 120C . You're confusing Fahrenheit and Celsius, and they were never there at the maximum temperature. By the way, proximity suits for firefighters get up to the 1600C range for radiant temperatures (what sunlight is).
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..... a "barrier' that's literally thousands of miles below the height the Flat Earthers claim the sun moon are, despite supposedly being inside it.
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Realistically, oil on the moon would be worthless. It would cost more too bring back than you can sell it for.
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NASA had their budget cut almost immediately after because Congress determined it wasn't worth the massively expensive price tag to continue after the cosmic dick wagging had been accomplished, and it's unsustainable. Apollo-style ships are single use. You have to build a new one every single launch. That's why the Space Shuttle was created: to test and develop technology for reusable spacecraft.
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..... so then why did he have to shut off the comments on his channel after he was caught cutting details that disproved him out of the videos? This includes shots of them filming without his trick within seconds of clips he used.
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And we've seen just as many hoaxers claim "My uncle worked for NASA and told me it was a lie before he disappeared".
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@litha9627 There's a video called "Addendum: A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" where they play the footage side-by-side and you can see Bart cut away seconds before the camera moves between windows with no insert. The audio's messed up due to a copyright strike on music that was played over one of the clips. The raw footage has also been on Youtube for ages, but I don't remember what it's called. Here's a summary of lies. TL;DW 1. Bart lied about the astronauts "not kknowing they were filming", then muted the audio so you couldn't hear them discussing the picture quality. 2. Bart lied about them pretending to be against the window when they were filming across the cabin, then cut out a 1-2 minute long segment where you could watch them move away and both mission control and the astronauts verbally acknowledge they are doing so. The only person claiming they were supposed to still be against the window is Bart himself. 3. The astronauts never actually remove anything from the window. You will never see them do so. 4. Bart was caught hiding footage that disproved his claim 5. The trick doesn't even work. If you tried this, the clouds and landmasses outside would still be moving as the ship orbits, and the clips are long enough they'd have crossed about 1/6 of the entire planet.
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Let me save you the trouble: Don't bother. If you are going to, pirate them. Don't give him a single cent. Bart's very well-known for being a fraud. There are critiques of his work on Youtube that are almost as old as Youtube himself, and he got caught red-handed blatantly and deliberately lying many times. That "Halfway to the distance" video of his? It's edited to skip over parts of it that disprove his story, including the astronauts very obviously moving the camera back away from the window he claims they were pretending to be against, and shots of them filming without his trick. He likes to pretend "The astronauts were afraid of me because they were confronted with the truth", then neglects to mention that was after he earned himself an arrest record for stalking and trespassing. (He's also got another criminal record for wrecking somebody's car by jumping on it because they took the spot he wanted). Oh, by the way, if he tries to push that "son of an air force base officer" story, don't listen to it. The story's obviously bs. It tries to name the mission after a phrase (Slam Dunk) that was invented AFTER the moon landings, it has blatant anachronisms and references to people that had already retired or had no business being there, and Bart forgot to check the guy's details when fabricating the date his "deathbed confession" was made on because he date he uses was a year and a half before the fire mentioned in it. We know this for a fact because the family put out a GoFundMe for it. Ooops.
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@Cali8842 No, he didn't. The hoaxers cut off the rest of his statement where he says the reason they didn't go BACK was because in order to do new things, not just repeat the same one, you need to continue to spend even more money.
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Because they were different cameras. The one on the moon was a stripped down one that could be used with the LEM's radio signals.
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Really? Because Armstrong looks identical in his other post-mission press conferences.
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@TheForce_Productions Did Bart mention that that was after he got himself arrested for stalking and trespassing? If somebody treated me the way Bart treated the astronauts, I'd refuse to swear to what I had for breakfast out of spite. I'd refuse to do anything that was asked of me, and if I were asked "Where's the bathroom", I'd tell him to mess his pants.
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Is enjoying being lied to a form of masochism?
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