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Good on you Chris i would say that you do not let up on this topic until Uthman provides evidenice for the alleged attack
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What this shows is that Mansur would only debate lay people that know little about what it is they believe, that is why Mansur would not debate those like Bob and Chris he avoids them like a plaque
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So Syfe stated that Jesus is the son of himself. That makes absolutely no sense at all. In order to be a son one has to have a father and in order to be a father he has to have a son/daughter. Terms such as father and son are relational terms you can't have one and not the other. So, when we say that Jesus is the Son of God, we are saying that he is the son of the father by their shared nature/essence..
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@Alam22414 and yet she was released with no case against her. They had nothing on her to hold her and she was released without being charged. Im fully aware what she was supposedly charged with as she made a video about that.. Also speech is not violence you are equating speech with violence. Basically your feelings are hurt and people according to you must be prosecuted because yoyr sensitive feelings got hurt. Like i said if your feelings get hurt then do not go to the park or get yourself another religion where your feelings wont get hurt its really that simple.
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Dust is a great performer just keeps on talking without answering any questions but likes to make claims without providing any evidence
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Mufti Abu Layth confirmed that Muhammad married Aisha when she was six and consummated the marriage when she was nine. As this is in their sources. Now i did not hear him say that Sahih is not Sahih but he does confirm that it is disgusting that a Man of 54 married a child of 6 years old and then consummated the marriage at the age of 9. Also he confirmed that Aisha herself did not give consent (and we all know that silence does not mean consent). Even thou it is in their sources one has to wonder why Mufti Abu Layth is still a Muslim? It does seem that he does not like the idea of an individual marrying a child.
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There are many different groups and ideologies that clash at speakers Corner however one particular group cannot control themselves and some in that group always resorts to violence in order to silence critics. This one particular group do not agree with free speech and is actively against it. This one particular group are also very intolerant of criticism.
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None of these hard questions was asked to Ali Dawah by these Russians. Instead Smiles 2 Jenna only graped Ali Dawah's mouth none of that has been seen here..
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@haroonnazir5614 "there is only one Qur'an but hundreds of bibles" - Actually there are at least 37 different Qur'ans that do not have the same words in it. Furthermore, we do have many English translations of the bible which gives the same message. 'Catholics have different books than protestants and orthodox have different number of books" - It's true that all 3 groups have a different number of books some more than others. However, all 66 books that are in the Catholic bible is also in the Protestant and Orthodox bibles. So once again this is not a problem for Christians as the message is still the same..
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@AbiyaanBanuri "That is why most people are reverting to Islam people like Mike Tyson, Andrew Tate and Muhammad Ali" - Just because these individuals converted to Islam does not make the religion of Islam automatically true by default...
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Based upon what evidence?
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Sounds like you do not tolerate the idea that Bob has a different opinions to yours with regards to the Genesis account
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Dr. Khalil Andani didn't solve anything in fact I would say that he didn't know what the Islamic Dilemma is all throughout the discussion/debate. His whole opening 20 minutes does not convince anyone that there is no good response to the Islamic Dilemma. I would argue that Dr. Khalil Andani does not know what the Injeel is and for him to say that we do not have the injeel would mean that he would know what the injeel is in order claim that we don't have the injeel since he would have read, touched the original injeel to make the claim.
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The individual seems very angry and argumentative over a question. Secondly talking over someone is just a way not to answer the question.
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@BaitusSalaam "unless im confusing 2 different tall ginger white males who both are incapable of positively promoting their faith intellectually" - besides the critique on their appearance which would lead me to conclude thst you seem a bit racist because the color of their skin has got nothing to do why Mansur would not debate them and only debate lay people who has not studied their faith. Secondly both Bob and Chris has done an amazing job by promoting their faith intellectually and conveying it accurately. The fact that Muslims do not understand the Christian faith is not their fault in the slightest.
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@RaRa-xv2bu "dont you grasp how delusional your belief is" - just because you make the claim its delusional does not make it delusional. "When he does not have divine nature" - that is not what we believe, we believe that Jesus Christ has a divine nature as well as a human nature and they do not mix or intermingle with one another. "Jesus can never be God" - that is what you believe but it is opposite to what all scripture teaches and it teaches that Jesus is God incarnate "Jesus is just a human" - we believe that Jesus is also fully human but we also believe that he was more than just a mere human "So never utter again Jesus is God" - sorry im not your dhimmi abd i will keep saying that Jesus is God because that is what scripture teaches "Tell this to Chris" - i affirm with Chris that the bible teaches that Jesus is God and i will tell Chris that he is doing an amazing job
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@haroonnazir5614 "But if books in the Catholic bible are words of God then protestants are not following them and if they are not words of God then that means its corrupt" - You are missing the point i made earlier, the same 66 books of the bible are the same books that are in the Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox bibles, the only difference is that some of the bibles have additional books. But the same 66 books that are in the Old and New Testament are in all three sect's bibles. And yes, all three groups would say that the bible is the Word of God.
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In my interactions with Muslims in the comments section what i have experiences is that Muslims have terrible arguments and secondly they do not have arguments thry have insults that are framed as arguments.
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"I have a question for you...a simple one how do you establish that Jesus was born on the 25th December"? -excellent question Jesus was not born on the 25th of December "If you cant then what are you Christians all around the world celebrating every year"? - we are celebrating his death and resurrection
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The fact and reality is that most of the dawah team's mind is in the gutter. I cannot take Muslim's very seriously when they constantly claim oh we love Jesus and we follow Jesus but they will not hesitate to throw Jesus under the bus or even to Mock him
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@BaitusSalaam "false" - that is an assertion. Can you demonstrate why it is false?
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@BaitusSalaam "im not racist btw, i did not say anything derogatory about his skin color" - then why did you feel the need to make a comment in their appearance instead of commenting on their arguments. There was no need to comment on their appearance or skin color. We all know based upon video evidence that they are white, so what and yes you did come of as racist based upon my explanation i just gave. "I was just being honest that maybe im confusing 2 different people as they could look similar" - so who are the 2 people you are supposedly confusing that looks similar based upon this video? "So this video is just a poor Christian fellow licking his wounds after not being able to defend his faith intellectually at the park" - it amazes me that you could tell all that from this very short video. You were certainly not watching the same video as i did. Chris as done a very good job of defending his faith at the park "Islam is against racism from the outset" - i disagree Islam is an Apartheid system that views all non muslims as secind class citizens under sharia law. Also atheists would not even be allowed to live under sharia law. And finally Jews and Christians are the worst of creatures according to Islam this is racism based upon beliefs. "The prophet said that whites are not superior to blacks nor are Arabs superior over non arabs execpt in their good deeds" - provide me with the chapter and verse of what you just said in order to substantiate your claim "Plenty of white Muslims out there search up Hamza den and Jordan for example" - i never once said that there are not white converts to Islam. Also you seem very keen on pointing out the color of a persons skin color, again what has skin color got to do with anything or maybe it is that superiority complex that some Muslims have that think they are superior to all non muslims and want to make non muslims dhimmis if they do not accept Islam and feeling themselves subdued
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@RaRa-xv2bu "do you mean like better in lying and deceiving people" - please provide evidence where Chris lied as well as how he deceived? "I mean he is a Christian which delusional beliefs and cant have a conversation without lying in every video there is with him in it" - firstly what delusional beliefs does Chris have please provide evidence? Also can you please provide evidence off Chris lying in every video he is in? Chris is also one of the individuals one can have a conversation with, in my opinion he is a bit to soft by letting those he speaks to talk over him from time to time
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@RaRa-xv2bu "while God being the most powerful, greater than the universe" - we also believe that God is all powerful and that he transcends time, space and matter. "Does this sound delusional to you or not"? - no because that is what the bible teaches. It teaches that God the Son (the 2nd person of the trinity) took on a human nature upon himself in the person of Jesus Christ became a man and entered into the bloodstream of humanity and took our sins upon himself. So no it is not delusional at all. What you must understand is that Muslims and Christians do not believe in the same God. The god of the qu'ran is not the God of the bible although he claims to be the God of the bible
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@RaRa-xv2bu "furthermore nowhere in the bible Jesus said he is God" - Jesus does not have to say he is God in the way that you want him to say it. Jesus claimed to be God in ways that the Jews would understand it. "Actually he says the Father is the only true God John 17:3. Why do you ignore or cant understand simple text in the bible" - as a trinitarian Christian i affirm that the Father is the only true God because there is no other god but him as both the Old and New Testament affirm that there is only 1 Solitary God in existence. However John 17:3 is not the only verse in the bible and secondly John 17:3 does not say that the Father alone is the only true God.
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@RaRa-xv2bu "that means your bible contradicts itself. Dont you get it?" - no it actually does not given the explanation i gave in my previous comment. "When you read the bible and believe in it" - yes i do just as you believe in the qu'ran when you read it. "You turn skitzofrenic for sure" - well for starters your are not a pshycologist to make such a judgement call. "When the bible says. You can see God and live. How is it possible" - actually the bible affirms that one cannot see God and live but if God condesend in form that you can see him you will live because no one can see God in his full glory and still be able to live It is a paradox and nonsensical for sure" - just because you say its a paradox and nonsensical does not make it so. I mean if you are ignorant of the text or that you dont understand how to read the bible then that is not the fault of the bible or Christians. Muslims try to understand the bible through the lens of the qu'ran which is a very big mistake to make
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If DOD is confident in what he says on this topic, then he should debate Chris on the topic of is the Qur'an Perfectly Preserved. However, I do not think that he would debate Chris on this topic however time will only tell. The majority of his response to Chris' discussion with Sneako was mostly personal insults and attacking the Character of Chris, since he knows Chris, it would seem on a very personal level. As it seems DOD has a level of omniscience to know what Chris have read and what he has not read..
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it is kind of ironic that the Muslims would be shouting down other Muslims while they are debating
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"Chris, I love you and Bob as brothers in Christ but Bob's prideful ego troubles my soul" - why does Bob's supposed prideful ego trouble your soul? And secondly what do you mean by prideful ego? "He comes across as a straight up narcissist who is only happy when he is speaking loudly and shouting people down" - Firstly what do you mean by narcissist? Secondly there is good reason why he speaks loudly and shouting when having debates with individuals who constantly interrupt. However i have also seen Bob debating in a very calm manner when there are no interruptions from the individual he is debating. "Is it a speakers corner only thing or what"? - i would argue it has more to do with the type of individual Bob is debating. "i do not accept that as an excuse though because none of the rest of you are like that" - not all debaters debate the same way. One may not always agree with the style of debating, i would say to each his own "You are loving and far more humble than arrogant" - being humble is a good virtue but like being humble as well as being arrogant are not the standard for what is true or false. "He is puffed up with academic knowledge and it shows massively" - Are you implying that being puffed up with academic knowledge is a bad thing? "He is equally arrogant as he is knowledgeable and it sad" - being arrogant is not the standard for being right or wrong. And secondly it does seem that you are saying that being knowledgeable is a bad thing or as you say sad.
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1). What do we need to repent off? 2). What lies of the trinity are you speaking of?
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Yusuf Estes must simply pick up a book and read he would be better for it Its hard to critique someone that is that ignorant and simply does not know
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The first part of your statement is not a good argument at all. Rather those that should be banned are the ones that cannot behave or control themselves.
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@Cysmoke "i am sure David's father will attest to his son's claim" - that is all in the past David was imprisoned for his past actions against his father he paid his dues and came out a better man on the other side.
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@standbyevidence1 "blashemy similar insults the majesty of almighty god, that is big sin...hell" - Christians do not believe in the god of the qu'ran so its not blashemy when insulting a false god.
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@BaitusSalaam "first of all you need to edit and retract your original comment" - why would i edit or retrack my original comment? "You claimed he wouldnt debate people like Chris and i post a video of him debating with" - firstly my comment was addressed to this video specifically. Secondly i am aware that in the past he did debate Chris i have no problem with that at all. "So that's the end of this video's title and your comment" - actually it is not the fact that he debated both in the past and is not willing to do so anymore does not negate my comment or the title of this video. Mansur has changes from debating them in the past to not debating them anymore in the future. "Chris is lying to you as are you" - this is simply your assertion and just because you assert it does not make it so. "Maybe taking after Paul the Apostle's approuch to calling to Christianity" - i agree that Christians accept Paul as an Apostle of Jesus Christ because he was chosen by Jesys himself. But you need to clarify the rest of your sentence a bit better. "Confusingly enough you double down on your original false claim and restate that skin color hasnt got anything to do with why mansur wouldnt debate people like Chris" - firstly you made a comment on the appearance of Bob and Chris as well as stated their skin color on which i made a comment. It is also true that based on past debates thaf Mansur does not seem like a person who would not debate someone because of the color of their skin. From what i have seen is that he would debate anyone regardless of skin color. "After you have been shown a video of Mansur debating with Chris" - this seems rather a statement then a question. Mansur has debated Bob and Chris in the past but it would seem that he would not do so based on this video
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"David does not give convincing responses"? - what do you define as a convincing response?
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What evidence do you have for the alleged attack ob Uthman ibn footnote?
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@SM-rf4vr "Money is your justice"? - No its the action of compensation for loss that is justice
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@AlphaSphinxV2 "is that arrogance my good sir?" - Arrogance is not the standard of truth. Testify can be arrogant and be correct and you can be arrogant and be wrong.
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@RaRa-xv2bu "Timothy 6:16 refutes your nonsensical claim" - yeah Timothy 6:16 does not refute Genesis 17:1 and neither is the claim nonsensical "No one can see God and Live" - that is true and yet all through out the Old Testament we see individuals seeing God and fearing that they would die and yet they live. I would argue that No One has seen the Father but instead have seen the Son that condesend in away that people can see him and at the same time make the Father known. "Clear your mind with these paradoxically ideas" - there is nothing paradoxically about scripture that is very clear
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Avery cooked Mansur and i have watched that debate on 3 different channels. Mansur had to run because his feelings got hurt..
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@StandOnScripture "the trinity is illogical" - since you made the claim that the trinity is illogical now you must demonstrate that it is illogical?
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@allwillberevealed777 "I love this. Christians calling each others horse shit. Each claiming to be right and each believing they have the Holy Spirit" - Firstly i have never heard any Christian calling another Christian what you just describe. Secondly not all who claim to be Christians are indeed Christians unitarians are not identified as Christians. And thirdly when Christians refer to as Christians we are referring to Trinitarians as Christians.
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@StandOnScripture "Okay the second law of law is of Non contradiction if the Trinity contradicts then it is illogical" - firstly i assume you are referring to the Law of Non Contradiction that states that nothing can be what it is not. That is, an oak tree cannot be a tree and cow's milk. Either it is an oak tree or it is cow's milk. Thus a thing cant be what it is at the same time what it is not. You still have demonstrate that the Trinity violates the law of Non Contradiction? "You believe Yeshua is God and man 100"% but yet the nature of man is fixated to a human body yet God's nature is that he is every where therefore this contradicts therefore is illogical" - Yes i do believe that Jesus is both fully God and fully man and that he has 2 natures 1 divine nature and 1 human nature, but these two natures does not mix or intermingle with one another. Your statement assumes unitarianism by thinking that God is only one person. We believe that God is 1 being existing as 3 persons and it is not that Father nor the Holy Spirit that incarnated it is only the Son. So again it does not violate the Law of Non Contradiction. God is still present everywhere while the Son took on a human nature in the incarnation and became man that is limited within in time and space as well as in location. "secondly Malachi 3:6 says I YEHOVAH DO NOT CHANGE but you claim Yehovah become a human child this is a change irregardless what you would like to think this is an alteration" - I agree with Malachi 3:6 that God does not change. However as i stated above when the Son took onto himself a human nature the divine nature and the human nature did not mix or intermingle with one another. There God's nature did not change. And once again you are assuming unitarianism by thinking that God is only one person. "thirdly Yehovah knows all but Yeshua didnt know the hour you cant know all and not know all at the same time (*contradiction) and you cant be all powerful and not have all power that is a contradiction" - once again i agree that God knows everything, however if you know anything about Jewish culture with regards to wedding ceremonies, when a bride and groom were to be married, a celebration would ensure. It takes time to prepare meals, water, wine as well as for the people to make travel plans who will be attending the wedding. In order to prepare for such an occasion people had to know what day the wedding would occur.. Now the wedding trumpeters would be waiting for the official command of the Father for the Son to go get his bride. It was customary to say in the Jewish culture that know one knows the day or the hour when the Father would send the Son to go and get his bride. This was a sign of respect to the Father it was a cultural norm. So when Jesus said that no one knows the day or the hour he was simply reflecting the cultural norm of his day. Jesus is simply saying that it is up to the Father to declare the day and the hour of his second coming. " SECOND LAW OF LOGIC is always broken by Trinity" - based upon the evidence i gave the supposed contradictions evaporates completely.
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@OzunYildir "Muslims are the true Christians (followers of Christ)" - This is simply false Muslims follow Muhammad not Jesus. Muslims don't pray the high priestly prayer as Jesus has taught his disciples to do. Muslims don't believe in Jesus' death, and resurrection nor in his deity. So, no Muslims are not the true followers of Christ. "You are not followers of Christ you are worshipper of Christ that is 2 different things" - To be a follower of Christ is also to be one who worships Christ. Those two words may be spelled differently but that is what is meant by being Christian. 'Therefore, stop calling yourselves Christians" - The word Christian means Little Christ or follower of Christ. Your ignorance is showing. "You don't follow the Sunnah of Jesus like us Muslims do" - Christians follow the teachings of Jesus more closely than Muslims do. There are plenty of teachings that Jesus taught that are rejected by Muslims..
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I would say that the Islamic Dilemma is a strong argument that demonstrates that the Qur'an is false by its own standard..
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In order to accept Islam, one has to view one's fellow human beings especially Jews and Christians as the worst of creatures. Then one would also have to view yourself as being superior to non-Muslims. And then the value of Non-Muslims are only have of the value of that as a Muslim. So, there is no way that on these grounds can one become a Muslim and accept Muhammad as a Prophet and his god.
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@ghafoorrahman5599 "it still does not mean she is innocent" - of course she is innocent, she was wrongfully arrested kept for 15 hours in jail and was released without any charges against her. If she was quilty of an offense they would have charged her with something, but they didnt therefore she is innocent
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Hamza is simply making up an excuse not to debate Godlogic and Chris, since he is a hypocrite and has been exposed as a liar.. Hamza and John will never debate Chris, Godlogic and Sam on any given topic he will only debate them on his channel were he can kick them or mute them. Rather he has the option of debating them on a neutral platform like Modern day debate. But it will never happen. It has been demonstrated that he is not a reliable person to trust.
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@SM-rf4vr "Chris supporting killing of Muslim women" - what is your evidence for this claim
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