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Comments by "Thanos" (@Thanos-kp5jr) on "Why did Uthman Ibn Farooq Lie About This?" video.
1). What do we need to repent off? 2). What lies of the trinity are you speaking of?
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@StandOnScripture "the trinity is illogical" - since you made the claim that the trinity is illogical now you must demonstrate that it is illogical?
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@allwillberevealed777 "I love this. Christians calling each others horse shit. Each claiming to be right and each believing they have the Holy Spirit" - Firstly i have never heard any Christian calling another Christian what you just describe. Secondly not all who claim to be Christians are indeed Christians unitarians are not identified as Christians. And thirdly when Christians refer to as Christians we are referring to Trinitarians as Christians.
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@StandOnScripture "Okay the second law of law is of Non contradiction if the Trinity contradicts then it is illogical" - firstly i assume you are referring to the Law of Non Contradiction that states that nothing can be what it is not. That is, an oak tree cannot be a tree and cow's milk. Either it is an oak tree or it is cow's milk. Thus a thing cant be what it is at the same time what it is not. You still have demonstrate that the Trinity violates the law of Non Contradiction? "You believe Yeshua is God and man 100"% but yet the nature of man is fixated to a human body yet God's nature is that he is every where therefore this contradicts therefore is illogical" - Yes i do believe that Jesus is both fully God and fully man and that he has 2 natures 1 divine nature and 1 human nature, but these two natures does not mix or intermingle with one another. Your statement assumes unitarianism by thinking that God is only one person. We believe that God is 1 being existing as 3 persons and it is not that Father nor the Holy Spirit that incarnated it is only the Son. So again it does not violate the Law of Non Contradiction. God is still present everywhere while the Son took on a human nature in the incarnation and became man that is limited within in time and space as well as in location. "secondly Malachi 3:6 says I YEHOVAH DO NOT CHANGE but you claim Yehovah become a human child this is a change irregardless what you would like to think this is an alteration" - I agree with Malachi 3:6 that God does not change. However as i stated above when the Son took onto himself a human nature the divine nature and the human nature did not mix or intermingle with one another. There God's nature did not change. And once again you are assuming unitarianism by thinking that God is only one person. "thirdly Yehovah knows all but Yeshua didnt know the hour you cant know all and not know all at the same time (*contradiction) and you cant be all powerful and not have all power that is a contradiction" - once again i agree that God knows everything, however if you know anything about Jewish culture with regards to wedding ceremonies, when a bride and groom were to be married, a celebration would ensure. It takes time to prepare meals, water, wine as well as for the people to make travel plans who will be attending the wedding. In order to prepare for such an occasion people had to know what day the wedding would occur.. Now the wedding trumpeters would be waiting for the official command of the Father for the Son to go get his bride. It was customary to say in the Jewish culture that know one knows the day or the hour when the Father would send the Son to go and get his bride. This was a sign of respect to the Father it was a cultural norm. So when Jesus said that no one knows the day or the hour he was simply reflecting the cultural norm of his day. Jesus is simply saying that it is up to the Father to declare the day and the hour of his second coming. " SECOND LAW OF LOGIC is always broken by Trinity" - based upon the evidence i gave the supposed contradictions evaporates completely.
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@StandOnScripture "Hold on one minute!!! Did you just ignore the fact that God is not a man Hosea 11:9 ... So I am God not a man is a statement non contradiction isn't just the fact that you can't be something and something your not, while this is true and still stands for what I stated it also shows in the Bible that God can not lie and he said i am God not a man, so if he says he is not a man and yet you claim your God is both a man and God when the natures contradict you're litterally saying I am right while trying to say I am wrong" - Firstly i am not at all ignoring Hosea 11:9 however Hosea 11:9 does not say that God can not become a man what Hosea 11:8-9 reminds us of is that God is compassionate unlike men. When Hosea 11:9 states "I am God and not Man" is that God's compassion is infinite and his goodness does not change. I also agree that God cannot lie, also nowhere did i ever say that the natures contradicted please don't misrepresent what i say. "You're wrong of NON CONTRADICTION means if it contradicts in any way - GOD is God he is not man there for boom" - i am certainly not wrong about the definition i gave about the Law of Non Contradiction as i also clearly gave you an example as well. Another example that would violate the law of Non Contradiction would be a Married Bachelor" "Your stubborn and there for hate God because if you loved God you'd be genuine not making up excuses to try and make it look like you answered me lol." - firstly this is not an argument and neither is it a refutation on anything that was said previously. Secondly for you to say that i hate God you would have to have some level of omniscience to know such a thing. The fact that you don't like how i answered you is not my problem that is your problem. You can say i didn't answer you but our interaction will clearly show to the readers that i did in fact answered you and they can decide for themselves. All you have here is rhetoric and emotion. "PS: Jewish culture I do know I keep Torah and I likely know Jewish culture more than you my friend, when Jesus said he didn't know the hour that would be a lie if he did" - Just because you keep the Torah (whatever that means) does not mean you know Jewish culture. And secondly here you are basically accusing Jesus of lying while the scripture clearly states that Jesus is sinless. If you read through my answer you would have noticed that nowhere did i say or even implied that Jesus lied. "He is not God and the marriage is not the return the marriage is the FEAST OF SUKKOT! your playing with someone who dont play mate stay in your swinery if you wish I have already proven your false God wrong" - Contrary to what you said scripture clearly teaches that Jesus is God. Scripture also teaches that Jesus will return for his bride which is the Church and when i mean church it is the body of believers. Lastly you have not proven anything as you simply jumped to Hosea 11:9 thinking that it would be evidence against me which it is not. "How about you call in on my show ??? give me a day you will be free and we can set up a one on one" - are we none discussing things one on one right now?
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@StandOnScripture "the natures contradict by the way human beings are fixated to a body" - here you are talking about human beings who are created creatures that consists of a physical body (human nature) that also possesses an immaterial soul "human beings don't know all" - i agree because we are limited and finite. We tend to grow in knowledge but will never know everything "human beings are not all powerful" -firstly you have to define what all powerful is, all powerful doing what is logically possible, human beings possess various levels of physical strenght but that does not constitute as being all powerful. "God is all powerful, everywhere...these natures contradict you cant argue out of this" - here you are talking about God, God is not a created creature, God is Omniscient, Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omnificent and Omnibenevolent he is all these things the a degree of level that we are not.
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@parj9328 "each Christian have a different view of the trinity" - i see so tell me what do you mean by a different view? Please clarify since i am a trinitarian mysel? "Anyone who is conscious enough will reject the trinity" - really why on what basis would i reject it since i am conscious enough?
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@parj9328 "1+1+1=3 not 1 simple math man" - i agree that 1+1+1=3 but then we are talking about maths. When we talk about God we are not reducing God to a mathematical equation which is what you are doing and also it is simply very bad polemics on your part
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