Comments by "D MAK" (@hondacbrification) on "Scythian DNA: What was the Genetic Makeup of the Horse Lords of the Eurasian Steppe?" video.

@bir_cumle Scythians and Hun-Han are the same people where Western Scythians where a Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian alliance while Eastern Scythians where more Turkic . The Hungarian part is Gál-Gaelic-Gaul
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Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean continuity is there as for Scythians they where a tribal alliance from which Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while the Eastern a more Turkic.The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian part was a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul alliance which is why Hungarian-Macar-Scythian called the Árpádian basin as Gálvölgy meaning Valley of Gál which by the way is a Hungarian surname just as Gál which is understood as Gaul-Gaelic by Hungarians and it is the reason why Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarian=ManGál or Gál-Gaelic-Gaul people which is the word Mangal from which the Mongol word have derived from. As for Gál-Gaelic-Gaul folk they moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other provinces which is why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so world widespread or why amongst native Pashtun,Kalash...people the Scottish and Irish genetic connection appears to this very day since this people have remained in a more isolated country and retained such genetic connection that was present already in Bronze age since such tribal alliance was a developed culture already in Bronze age and have collapsed in later period. https://www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
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@Alprtngakrc @Alprtngakrc Őr is a Hungarian word and it means Guard.Őrok means Guardians ...the Hun-Han word aglutinative like the rest of Hungarian words which root word An is the root word of Anny-Anna meaning Mother and is linked to Hungarian Turan-Turul bird The Lord An from which Hungarian-Macar-Scythian traced they origins which appears in Etruscan culture just as soke Turkic and even Iranian and while ALL Hungarian-Macar-Scythian nobility and rulers traced such descendant NONE of Ottomans did since they where a mix of Gypsies,Jews,Iranian,Northern African...literally band literally Muslims that mixed with other Muslims. Árpád is a Hungarian word and Hungarian dynasty that appears even in Bible which root word Árpa means Barley.As for Ar it is like Ér meaning it refers to source-origins-produce of something which is another out of many things they clearly dont have a slightest idea. The word ISTEN,ISTAN,OSTAN...is a Hungarian word for GOD that appears in ISTANBUL and its linked to even to TENGRI where Mongolian Capit Ulan Bathor is another Hungarian word where Báthor means Brave ...and yes we have the word and surname Török that is associated with the land called Turkey and like many actual genuine Török the Török Bálint have fought against the Muslims called Ottomans that have enslaved our ancestors for centuries and so calling such people Török is something we need to change since they are Muslims and such a NONE Hun-Han and NONE TÖRÖK but a Muslims and so Jews,Gypsies,Iranian,Arabs...like literally whom ever Muslims have enslaved and mixed with which by default doesn't suffice the word NOBILITY since they clearly where not NOBLE.
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Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean continuity is there as for Scythians they where a tribal alliance from which Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while the Eastern a more Turkic.The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian part was a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul alliance which is why Hungarian-Macar-Scythian called the Árpádian basin as Gálvölgy meaning Valley of Gál which by the way is a Hungarian surname just as Gál which is understood as Gaul-Gaelic by Hungarians and it is the reason why Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarian=ManGál or Gál-Gaelic-Gaul people which is the word Mangal from which the Mongol word have derived from. As for Gál-Gaelic-Gaul folk they moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other provinces which is why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so world widespread or why amongst native Pashtun,Kalash...people the Scottish and Irish genetic connection appears to this very day since this people have remained in a more isolated country and retained such genetic connection that was present already in Bronze age since such tribal alliance was a developed culture already in Bronze age and have collapsed in later period. https://www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
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@expertpovsemvoprosam1667 Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric people meaning Finnish-Hungarian while Eastern where more Turkic people. The Scythians is another word for Hun-Han and Slav-Slöwen speakers in many cases are Slav-Slöwenised Finno-Ugric people whose linguistic conversion came via religious conversion.
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@mr.purple1779 @serkankinden5150 Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand. Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture. This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else. I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised . Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures. This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
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@عليياسر-ف4ن9ك @serkankinden5150 Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand. Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture. This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else. I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised . Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures. This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
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Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean continuity is there as for Scythians they where a tribal alliance from which Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while the Eastern a more Turkic.The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian part was a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul alliance which is why Hungarian-Macar-Scythian called the Árpádian basin as Gálvölgy meaning Valley of Gál which by the way is a Hungarian surname just as Gál which is understood as Gaul-Gaelic by Hungarians and it is the reason why Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarian=ManGál or Gál-Gaelic-Gaul people which is the word Mangal from which the Mongol word have derived from. As for Gál-Gaelic-Gaul folk they moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other provinces which is why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so world widespread or why amongst native Pashtun,Kalash...people the Scottish and Irish genetic connection appears to this very day since this people have remained in a more isolated country and retained such genetic connection that was present already in Bronze age since such tribal alliance was a developed culture already in Bronze age and have collapsed in later period. https://www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
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@serkankinden5150 Indo-Jewropean languages doesn't originates from the steppe for such languages are more southern in origins where Turanian language theory when it comes to steppe is more accurate. The Western Scythians where a Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while Eastern Scythians where more Turkic and while this people are genetically different there is a connection between such people since they mixed together but have not overwhelmed one another in any way which indicates this people lived in relative harmony with one another compared to other groups where language spread via forced religious conversion like in case of many languages. Hungarian Turan-Turul bird appears in Etruscan culture just as Turkic culture and even Iran which like many other things clearly indicates the land in which Turanian languages have developed. The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian have called themselves Gál-Gaelic-Gaulic where Gál is a common Hungarian surname which is a root word for Galamb meaning Dove 🕊 which as a animal is symbol in Etruscan for Turan which also is depicted in more Eastern as a morphe animal the so called Griffin bird and Scythians we see the both versions.Add to this that in Hungarian Turan-Turul bird is depicted as a mother of Hungarians and that Anya-Ana meaning Mother word is linked to it in my view which is links T UR AN The Lord AN and ANzu bird and H AN and we get a cultural and linguistic between such steppe people,culture,languages ...that are aglutinative in nature unlike Indian and Jewropean-Mediterranean languages. We also as such see clear evidence that Hun-Han are the same as Scythians since like in case of Jász people that are told to be Iranian in origins like many other people we see they genetics being like that of other Hungarian-Macar-Scythian and not being modern Iranian related but have a high level of Western Scythian which issue for Indo-Jewropean theorist and they stories since Jász people in Hungary are also known as Hun-Kun or Cuman-Coman. I wrote more extensively about the Hungarian s point of view a more details in a Quora Answer below.As for Indo-Jewropean language theory I personally think it's fictional for we know that Russian language is not native in Russia but have spread recently in a land where Hungarian-Macar-Scythian lived and ETELKÖZ or land of ETEL commonly known as Attila included the lands where most Indo-Iranian speakers a Slav-Slöwen are whom in genetic sense have very little to no Indo-Iranian related genetics since Indo-Iranification of Slav-Slöwenisation of Scythians was and is a known thing which happened via religious conversion which is precisely why Slav-Slöwen speaking groups have no knowledge about whom or what they where before Christianity or what the identities-names they claim as they own means in the language around which they identity in most cases revolves. https://www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
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@serkankinden5150 That's actually the point for unlike some claims Hungarian-Macar-Scythian doesn't show any signs of being replaced or loosing they identity since our traditions are still there just they are not being promoted since Indo-Jewropean narrative is enforced and such the argument such have that we are some identity lost people that are not Hungarian-Macar-Scythian. The reality on other hand is very opposite since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian are Scythians and that's archeo-genetic fact and like Hungarian scientists have been telling for a while...there is no evidence of any kind of conquest by Hungarians in the land since there was no genetic or cultural replacement in Árpád time and the people that are being rebranded as Conquering Hungarians where already genetic related to the people that lived in the area and had the same culture. The only point where there is a cultural shift is in the time of first Catholic Hungarian king Vaják that became later knownbas Szent István meaning Saint Stephen which is arguably the very King that Serbs and other Orthodoxy have rebranded by other name as they first King which which is a tradition that remained later on since we know that Hungarian King Béla 3rd got rebranded as Jewnanistani(Greek) King Alexios together with the entire Cuman-Coman Byzantine dynasty and everything Hungarian-Macar-Scythian which is another out of many issues since as I pointed our earlier Cuman-Coman are the same as Jász people that are the same as Hun-Kun and we know that they have the same genetics as other Hungarians meaning they have a native genetics that have some genetic connections with Finnish and Turkic people due to intermarriages which reflects also in surnames since Török is a common Hungarian surname which is associated specifically with Turkish and so if we look Török Bálint a known Hungarian historical leader that led wars against Ottomans we see that he known what the word Török ment but again he fought against Ottomans that are today Turkish since the conflict was between a people that had no connection what so ever . Add to this that Gál is a common Hungarian surname that is the same as Gaul-Gaelic just in its Hungarian form from which we get many surnames like Gálvölgyi which means Valley of Gál which was another Hungarian name for Árpádian basin to which we add that Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarians where Mangál or Gaelic man we also get the source from which the word Mongol derived from and like in many cases we se a traces of English like language appearing in Hungarian language and when we look at Anglo-Sakson traditions they names as ÆTELSTAN clearly indicates that they traced to be from what we call ETELKÖZ or what was known as land-people of ETEL which was the name of so called Attila as well hence An Gelo -SakSon fundamentally ment that one was Gál-Gaul-Gaelic and Sak-Saka Son meaning a descendant of Scythians Hun.Saka is still a name used in Yakutsk also called Sakastan by Saka a Turkic group. If we add to this that Deutsch call us Hungarians as German in form of UnGar and not themselves similarly other people where Ugar,UnGar,InGar,HonGri,VenGri,WanGer...Ó'ghur,Onoguri do refers to Hungarians which also maps what was the Hungarian-Macar-Scythian land inhabited by such people and explains the overlap and connection with Turkic,Finnish,Iranian ...or even more Western groups since such tribal alliance was already a developed culture and group in the Bronze Age. This why Micheangelo Naddeo a Italian traced his own origins back to Hungarians and had a completely different views about Hungarians then what is narrated by Indo-Jewropean theorist which is the reason why he was mocked and harassed since current views-beliefs in West are still not fact based but Jewropean-Religion narrated-enforced because of which everything that proves they beliefs wrong is straight away being rejected. I have attached Micheangelo Naddeo short interview that he had on Hungarian tv channel. https://youtu.be/ALS7eeuIWF4?si=agp33TM4_Fjta0tY
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@serkankinden5150 Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand. Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture. This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else. I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised . Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures. This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
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VerbalWarrior162 Scythian is another word for Hun and we know that western Scythians where a Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while Eastern Scythians where more Turkic.There was no Indo-Iranian (Slav-Slöwen) Scythians .The word Irian-Arian-Aryan refers to someone whom is a descendant of JAN-YAN-HAN which is a identity and name with its religious significance that was also a title of nobility that Indo-Iranian nor Indo-Jewropean didn't used. As Ladino speaking Jewish-Jewnanistani-SeaPeople called Greek a late immigrants whom have rebranded Hungarian King Béla 3rd as they Jewnanistani King Alexios together with the entire Cuman-Coman Byzantine dynasty and everything Hungarian-Macar-Scythian they followed they Orthodox identity thieving traditions which is how Varangian nobility a Hungarian-Swedish offshoot A Vár Hungarian nobility got rebranded as Kijewish Rus as well .
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@MagnusVenter369 ?
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@MagnusVenter369 If you want to be a jester then at least you should tell the joke to others so that they might laugh at it if it is somehow funny for otherwise you will leave a impression of a crazy 🤪 person that escaped the luny house.
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@Alprtngakrc Turk have ZERO meaning in so called Turkic languages while it does in Hungarian. The Új means New in Hungarian whiel Ó means Old-Ancient hence the difference between Ó'ghur and Uyghur. Ugar,UnGar,InGar,HonGri,VenGri,WanGer...OnoGuri in all cases refers to Hungarians and its a archeo-genetic fact that Hungarian are The Scythians which is another names for Hun-Han which clearly is something that you like many others doesn't even understand what it means.
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@Alprtngakrc Ur Hungarian word just as Urak ...meaning Lord-Lords where Urik dynasty is a known Dynasty to which we add the fact the Hungarian Royal crown has describes Hungarian as Turk meaning Nobility which is a title that Ottomans didn't used your argument falls apart since Hungarian are Scythians which is another word for Hun-Han linked to the word Aryan meaning a Descendant of Yan-Han which as a word and title that Iranians didn't even used just further debunks your claims where even the word Khazar-Caiser can be interpreted in Hungarian language just as Mongolian Capital... Ottomans where a mixed group of people rather then a coherent group like Hungarian-Macar-Scythians where and are.
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@Alprtngakrc Next time before you insert some garbage Muslim beliefs of your try to do some research rather then making a fool of yourself and actual TURKS for Ottomans dressed and behave like Arabs where reflex bows where not they weapons at all but sabber hence claiming that they where Scythians is a absurd nonesense in every ways since they had no such genetics and have dressed like Alladin rather then a Scythians whom despite claiming to be a Turk they most certainly where not neither where the Sultans of they which as a word is another perversion of Hungarian word Zoltán.
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@Alprtngakrc Neither do the Turkish nor the Turkmen score to be Scythians since most closest modern population to Scythians where and are Hungarians.
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@Alprtngakrc Whom are you trying to deceive here? Western Scythians doesn't score any genetic connection to Turkish whom are not Turkman but a mix of various groups of people. There is as such a fundamental difference between Western Scythians meaning the Scythians and Eastern Scythians that are scoring to be Turkic group which you clearly are unaware or simply are ignorant of since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian language and vocabulary have some similarities to Turkish but does not originates from such people neither is the vocabulary of Turkish origins since as I pointed out such people have more Indo-Iranian related genetics then actually Scythian. Regarding the southern Italians they are a Ladino speaking Jewish-Jewnanistani-SeaPeople called Greek whom originates from Northern Africa-Carthage and they overwhelming majority of genetics is not even from this continent or Northern lands which is precisely why I said that Turkish are a mix of Jews,Gypsies,Iranians....and many other groups rather then a source group in genetic or cultural or linguistic or other way since they are a Muslims that enslaved various groups of people with whom they mixed and so calling them a source group is absurd. The Madjar tribe in Kazakhstan is just one of many examples that proves that Hungarian-Macar-Scythian have changed at all and it's still coherent since the Madjar tribe in Kazakhstan most closest modern relatives are not Kazaks but Hungarians which points out that Hungarian-Macar-Scythian genetics is the same for at least 1000 years since there is no connection with Kazaks and Hungarians for at least 1000 years in which we have retainEd our Hungarian-Macar-Scythian genetic,culture,language...while some clearly didn't and doesn't even know what they are claiming to be. The first group to rebel against Mongols and Tengrism where Ottomans since they where and are not Turks ...
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Maybe because that from where you originate from hence had such ancestry?Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand. Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture. This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else. I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised . Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures. This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
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@serkankinden5150 Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand. Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture. This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else. I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised . Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures. This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
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Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean linguistic,cultural,genetic..continuity is there but Scythians where not a Indo-Jewropean speakers.
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@Casualphilosopher-db9gy There is plenty of evidence that supports a Sumerian-Cimmerian-Crimean genetic and cultural continuity. Scythians-Huns can be broken in a 4 fundamental groups from which Hungarian-Macar-Scythian are a Western Scythians that are native in such lands,Eastern Scythians a Turkic speakers with a more central position on the continent,Mongols and Saka in Yakutsk and those of Hindu Kush area which like Ottomans that are connected to modern Iranians.
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Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean continuity is there as for Scythians they where a tribal alliance from which Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while the Eastern a more Turkic.The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian part was a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul alliance which is why Hungarian-Macar-Scythian called the Árpádian basin as Gálvölgy meaning Valley of Gál which by the way is a Hungarian surname just as Gál which is understood as Gaul-Gaelic by Hungarians and it is the reason why Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarian=ManGál or Gál-Gaelic-Gaul people which is the word Mangal from which the Mongol word have derived from. As for Gál-Gaelic-Gaul folk they moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other provinces which is why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so world widespread or why amongst native Pashtun,Kalash...people the Scottish and Irish genetic connection appears to this very day since this people have remained in a more isolated country and retained such genetic connection that was present already in Bronze age since such tribal alliance was a developed culture already in Bronze age and have collapsed in later period. https://www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
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@CocoSon-we2rg Turkish doesn't even have a genetic connection to Scythians-Huns in most cases and as for "Turkic" speakers they have some Hungarian-Macar-Scythian connection but they overwhelming a Eastern group while Hungarian-Macar-Scythian are a western group that is native in land and has a substantial Hungarian-Macar-Scythian that was Slav-Slovenised and Romanised like in case of Deutschland. Regrading the 10 tribe they where a massive alliance whom Jews-Jewnanistani-SeaPeople wanted to rebranded as they own and claim they origins from it.
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@CocoSon-we2rg Western Scythians where very much a Finno-Ugric people meaning Finnish-Hungarian while Eastern Scythians-Hun where a more Turkic.We can this Scythian-Hun populations like like Turkish and Afghan or Mongols but this where and are all native populations in such lands that are not Slav-Slöwen or Deutsch or Jewish-Jewnanistani-SeaPeople and that is FACT like Indo-Iranian like Indo-Jewropean languages not originating from the steppe but rather Indo-Iranian-Mediterranean corridor hence the reason such peoples doesn't trace or claim to Scythian-Hun.
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@LuisAldamiz @serkankinden5150 Well thats the point being related is not the same as being the same group which is something that some people doesn't want to understand. Western Scythians that appears to have been a Finno-Ugric alliance doesn't means that people where forced to speak one language or that they where one people since like in case of Ingrian Finnish we see that a Hungarian related name and group does appear to exist in the region where Finnish related genetics also appears in Hungarian region which are a indication that such people lived in harmony with some common culture and this something that we see with Turkic groups where some form of connection existed just as intermarriages and this was the basis of such alliances or why we have languages that share the same grammar but have a different vocabulary since in case of such tribal marriage tradition the groom that moved to the husband house is whom adopted to the such house,tribe etc hence integration was part of culture. This arguably the reason why we Magyar(Tribe) in Kazakhstan which are genetically most closest related to modern Hungarians while they are being Kazakh whom knew they where Hungarians.Similiarly Török meaning Turkish which is a common Hungarian surname whom know what they surname means while they are Hungarians like everyone else. I would add here Italian Prof.Mario Alinei claim that Etruscan where a Hungarian like speaking group which as group had some steppe related genetics but where local in over something that we see in Hungarian case where the argument thag Hungarian-Macar-Scythian conquered the land has simply no factual basis since what archeo-genetics data shows in Scythian case is that such people where a wast tribal alliance that once moved between Britain and all the way to Hindu-Kush area where Irish-Scottish genetics appears amongst native Hun-Han population like Pashtun Afghan,Hunsa that where Iranised . Consequently Hun-Han is a name and identity which is also a title of nobility with its religious significance that we see to have been present amongst such population and they ancient cultures. This why Hun-Han is the same as Scythian in most case since it's linked to Turul-Turan bird which as Turan appears in Etruscan culture just as Hungarian and Turkic and even Mongolian in some form similarly like in Hindu-Kush area which sometimes is represented in form of a Dove 🕊 and sometimes in a more morph form as a Griffin bird also known as AnZu bird which in all cases from a Hungarian perspective it explains why the Hungarian word for Mother is Anya-Ana since the root word An is the same as in Han or TurAn ...which in cultural-religious perspective is essential since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian just as rulers traced to be a descendant of Turul-Turan bird which as such points out that the reason why Sumerian culture and people appeared and disappeared suddenly is because it moved around the steppe from which it came from and to which later have returned while maintaining as certain genetic ,cultural and linguistic continuety that has nothing to do with Indo-Iranian or Indo-Jewropean languages since it's native to the steppe.
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What are you talking about? Sumerian-Cimmerians-Crimean continuity is there as for Scythians they where a tribal alliance from which Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while the Eastern a more Turkic.The Hungarian-Macar-Scythian part was a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul alliance which is why Hungarian-Macar-Scythian called the Árpádian basin as Gálvölgy meaning Valley of Gál which by the way is a Hungarian surname just as Gál which is understood as Gaul-Gaelic by Hungarians and it is the reason why Hungarian pig breed Mangalica is called as such because Hungarian=ManGál or Gál-Gaelic-Gaul people which is the word Mangal from which the Mongol word have derived from. As for Gál-Gaelic-Gaul folk they moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other provinces which is why R1A and R1B haplogroups are so world widespread or why amongst native Pashtun,Kalash...people the Scottish and Irish genetic connection appears to this very day since this people have remained in a more isolated country and retained such genetic connection that was present already in Bronze age since such tribal alliance was a developed culture already in Bronze age and have collapsed in later period. https://www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
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@bir_cumle The word Ábra,Ábrám ...is a Hungarian-Macar-Scythian word just as ÚR meaning Lord to which we add the genetic,cultural,linguistic continuety of Sumerian-Cimmerian-Crimean we get a understanding that Sumerian-Elomite that got rebranded as Shemitic people a descendant of Shem where a different group of people and not Arabs or Jews-Jewnanistani-SeaPeople. Yes Ural is a Hungarian word as well to which add the Khazar which would have been a Hungarian group mostly it explains whom Ashkenazi a Khazar Jews are . We know that Western Scythians where Finno-Ugric people meaning Finnish-Hungarian alliance while Eastern a more Turkic and Scythians are another name for Hun-Han.
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@elifozkendir3171 My comments have been blocked,removed...many times and that's not because they are lies but because they are factual based on interpretation of actual evidence rather then manipuling them to suite some political-religious fiction narrative of Indo-Jewropean linguistic theory which seek to insert languages in to the steppe that doesn't originated from such a languages that in many cases spread via forced religious conversion. Turkic,Finnish and Hungarian languages are in a grammatical sense similar but have a different vocabulary since like the archeo-genetics points out where and are different people that lived in touch and relative harmony with another without trying to overwhelm the other group and it's lands compared to Indo-Jewropean and Indo-Iranian languages that are a mix of various languages that spread in many cases via forced religious conversion that included genocides a extermination of the population that resisted such conversion ...which resulted in them not knowing what basic names-identities that they claim as they own mean in the language around which they identity revolves.
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 @ChristopherTanne-se3pz How is linguistic theories related to archeo-genetics?
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@serkankinden5150 Indo-Jewropean languages could mutated from A Sian meaning The Scythian languages since like Finnish,Hungarian...Turkic languages we talk about languages that are native in the steppe since they genetics is native and they language grammar is fundamentally different from Indo-Jewropean languages. The grammar in a language is like a finger print for vocabulary can change but the way people talk and constructs words can't since it's not a matter literacy. As for the Western Scythians being a Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian alliance while Eastern Scythians being a more Turkic the genetic differences just a linguistic and cultural similarities are self understanding and that's clear from a Hungarian-Macar-Scythian perspective and the evidence of cultural,genetic,linguistic...continuity that I have shared in the answer below. https://www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
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@serkankinden5150 I am a Hungarian and Hungarian rejected Indo-Jewropean linguistic theory from the and by looking at the actual evidence I as a Hungarian agree that Turanian linguistic is more factual then Indo-Jewropean which has no factual basis. Hungarian-Macar-Scythian didn't trace or claim to be Jewropean and we have enormous amount evidence that clearly shows our culture,identity...language having nothing in common with Indian nor Jewropean a Mediterranean languages and that's what archeo-genetics supports. Add to this prof Mario Alinei argument that Etruscan a pre Roman group speaking a Hungarian language. https://youtu.be/tC0Dedg42HY?si=_q3s8AQ-lLpmyARf Add to this that I as a Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian am native in land which Mediterranean like Romans or Ladino speaking Jewish-Jewnanistani-SeaPeople called Greeks are a late immigrants the entire Indo-Jewropean dissappears completely since it's pretty clear with whom Hungarian-Macar-Scythian where in touch or what was the Hungarian-Macar-Scythian genetic up to which we add the fact that Hungarian Turan-Turul bird appears in Etruscan related stories just as Turkic culture or even Iranian we get a clear genetic and cultural connection and area where Turanian culture was and is known and that's not Indian nor Jewropean Mediterranean area whom didn't understand the language,culture just as many other things. Hence when archeo-genetics points out that Western Scythians where a Finno-Ugric alliance meaning Finnish-Hungarian while Eastern a more Turkic we get a clear picture which languages have developed in such region since such languages are aglutinative,grammatical genderless,have a vowel harmony...which are grammatical elements that Indo-Jewropean languages simply don't and grammar is harder to change then a vocabulary of a language hence such Indo-Jewropean languages have developed in a different land which if we look at Gypsies genetics that have actually thay Indian genetic element we clearly see that we are talking about Indo-Iranian-Mediterranean region to which they are genetically connected. Slav-Slöwen speaking population have a limited Indo-Iranian or such genetic since they are predominantly identity lost Hungarian-Macar-Scythian which is why many are so desperate to insert themselves in to our history,culture...lands because they Western Roman and Orthodox stories clearly doesn't add up and the place where such languages developed are more Iranian plato like ZaGros area which like Zagorje,Zagreb...are actually Slav-Slöwen words where voweless languages developed from and so the Iranification of Scythians which is a known thing has mostly affected Hungarian-Macar-Scythian and it's the Slav-Slöwenisation of Hungarian-Macar-Scythian and we know that languages in many cases spread via forced religious conversion which is why such speakers doesn't know what they ancestors where before Christianity and had no nobility or traditions as to whom or what they where apart from nobility,stories,culture...that is Hungarian-Macar-Scythian linked. Add to this that Deutsch call us Hungarian-Macar-Scythians as German in form of UnGar similarly to others since Ugar,UnGar,Ingar,HonGri,VenGri,WanGer...Ó'ghur,Onoguri are a identity that are associated with Hungarians and we get the western border where our ancestors lived and moved. Add to this that Gál is common Hungarian surname which like Gálvölgyi points out that Árpádian basin was called also as Valley of Gál a Gál that moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia whom as such have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia like other regions and as such Hungarian pig breed is called Mangalica because Hungarians called themselves ManGál and lica is still used a word for pig in some places we not only get the source from which Mongol as word derived but also explanation why English use word Gal for woman since Gál is the root word for Hungarian Galamb meaning Dove 🕊 which is a word that also some Slav-Slöwen use but like many they don't understand what does it means or refer to.Go back now and look what is the symbol of Turan in Etruscan culture and you will see Dove 🕊 and then look at Mongolia banner and you will see a Burnig Dove 🕊 like symbol that descent add to this that Turan-Turul bird is sometime a hybrid bird where if sometimes have horns and is linked to Hungarian word Anya-Ana meaning Mother which linked to Han meaning and Anzu bird and you will know why Hungarians call Turan-Turul bird The Mother of Hungarians and why Gál is a she and why Indo-Jewropean doesn't have such culture for they patriarchAl while our where more complex a we woman had a significant role in our culture where they where educated healers,spiritual leaders ...yes house keepers but the house that give birth to many heroes and people that such people look up to.... Long story short archeo-genetics data clearly shows that certain Scottish clan did come from Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian and so they will have a Hungarian Royal house of Árpád related genetics where they move to Britain arguably happened around the era of ETEL commonly known as Attila and yes Scythians are the same as Hun-Han. So called Turkic people consequently have mixed with Hungarian-MacAr-Scythian and Finnish and not Mediterranean a so called Jewropean and that can be clearly seen from Hungarian surnames,culture,traditions...etc. A more complex and detailed explanation as to whom where and are Scythians I have attached below for those that are interested. https://www.quora.com/Where-did-the-Scottish-come-from/answer/Nem-Tudom-10?ch=10&oid=1477743756813011&share=ea7d2770&srid=h9tQgH&target_type=answer
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@serkankinden5150 The Hungarian have "found" a Madjar tribe in Kazakhstan which was pointed out by Kazakhs whether Hungarians know anything about them for they call themselves the same was a Hungarians.Madjar Kazakhs have a Eastern Asian a Turkic appearance but again they have western traits where they are blonde and ginger in some cases. Hungarian research was intrigued by this and performed a genetic testing for they where curious whether there is a genetic connection between Hungarian and Kazakh Madjar tribe and the results shocked everyone since according to genetics they closest modern population are not Kazakhs but actually Hungarians which is a huge thing since they are at least over 1000 years being completely separated from Hungarians since thats when Árpádian dynasty left ETELKÖZ which is a land is called Russia the westward region from Ural.The fact that they closest modern relatives are Hungarian and not Kazakhs not proves that Hungarian lived and developed on the steppe which a land between Árpádian basin and Mondol-Turkic steppe but also proves that Hungarian didn't changed in genetic sense since there could be otherwise no genetic connection between Kazakh Madjars and Magyars(Hungarian). The very Huria-Kuria also known as Kurultai was started by Hungarians because of Kazakhs Madjars to remember them and which since then is a place where Turkic people in general gather as well some Bulgarians,Japanese,Korean...since such groups have some traditions and knowledge of such tribal gatherings just as Chinese unlike the Western people whom like Slav-Slöwen speakers where completely Romanised and have lost they ancestors traditions. The short documentary about Kazakh Madjar(Hungarian) tribe is attached below. https://youtu.be/2wlvn6wbMlE?si=PHgLDvh6mmK4GAsv https://youtu.be/2wlvn6wbMlE?si=PHgLDvh6mmK4GAsv
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@serkankinden5150 Hungarian identity was blood based hence intermarriages had a cultural-political significance that was bond between families,tribes...and with Madjar tribe in Kazakhstan that Kazakhs pointed out to Hungarian the genetic research showed that Kazakhs Madjar tribe whom are a group of people with Eastern Asian traits and with western features like blonde,brown-ginger hair whose most closest relatives according to genetics being the modern Hungarians and not Kazakhs not only shows that Hungarians didn't change in genetic or cultural sense but that Hungarians lived and controlled a huge part of what is called Russia and more western land which was known as ETELKÖZ and such disproves the Indo-Jewropean language theory since western groups that where Romanised or converted to Orthodoxy like in many Slav-Slöwen speaking population whom in the process have lost they culture and traditions. This why Huria-Kuria which also known as Kurultai a tribal gathering that takes place every year was reinstated by Hungarians as a way to rember the Madjar Kazakhs to which now the Turkic groups attend regularly just as Bulgarian and even Japanese,Korean attend to occasionally since they have some traditions left about such events something that is not true for Romanised people. A short document about Kazakhs Madjar I have attached below.Its in Hungarian language since the general world is not interested in such things since it disproves they linguistic theories and beliefs. https://youtu.be/2wlvn6wbMlE?si=RlWG15T308JnNJx9
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@serkankinden5150 Haplogroups wise I have R1A,R1B,I2,I1,Q,N,J,G,F and E1B from which R1A,R1B and I2 are dominant. According to Adntro my haplogroup is R1a1a1b1a2b3. Regarding thee Hungarian identity it is blood based which is why our word for brother or sister is a genderless word Testvér made from the word Test meaning Body and Vér meaning Blood which in English would translate as saying Blood of my body.Exchanging blood was and is part of wedding traditions where like the English word says the marriage had to be consumed where today we do this in a symbolic way since people are not really Virgins when they married as let's say it was expected to be not so long time ago hence the white wedding dress is simply changed to a red one at midnight on the wedding which symbolise that the male and female have coupled and now they are a couple whom are from then a man and woman and such they head is to be bounded to show that they belong to one another which as such didn't only unified the male and female but again the family,tribe....which are just one of many traditions that Western people or Mediterranean simply doesn't have since they identity is like in US mostly Republican and not tribal hence many doesn't understand how the interaction in tribal groups even function or why belonging to a tribe was a important thing.They don't under that on a same principle the Blood was used to bound even the same genders whom as such became brothers by blood that they shared and mixed via oath which we call Véreskü which involved the two or more males cutting themselves and mixing they blood that made them one family.Such oath if broken had to be paid by blood where the transgressor of the oath would usually pay with all of his blood meaning he would be killed hence this intermarriages and mixing where a serious matter which is why archeo-genetics works very well in Hungarian-Macar-Scythian like in case of tribal groups whom have they own identity that is not Roman like Republic based . Long story shortI have direct genetic connection to a archeo-genetic samples that are 4000 years old and lived in the region between Deutschland,Kazakhstan and Greece see yes my ancestors lived in this area in which they have moved around just as Russian moves around in Russia or even more since Hungarian-Macar-Scythian had a traditions of moving around depending on the season in to a different land ...which why we go on holidays as well since it's part of the culture.
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@serkankinden5150 Well I kind of explained it in my previous comment for what people don't know or they simply ignore is the culture of such people and we know blood covenant was used by default for it was the basis for families,tribes that where genetically different to bind together as one group...which is why different people in genetic sense having the same or similar culture are find as Scythians-Huns.
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@ordafles5360 What is with admixtures?
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