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Comments by "James the Other One" (@jamestheotherone742) on "George Orwell's "What is Fascism?"" video.
@jussim.konttinen4981 More just disillusioned by the flaws in socialism and in human nature. Today he would be considered a conservative.
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@TheImperatorKnight He was an idealist. He understood the promises and theoretical benefits but I think realized that you can't get there from there (the early 20th century).
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Oh look, someone skimmed thru an online pop-sociology 101 class.
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@anyoneyousee7772 You should probably ask for a refund.
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Fascism and communism are diametrically opposed ideologies. The former is complete centralized control, the later is completely diffused control. You meant socialism.
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If one of your greatest advocates is also one of your greatest critics, you know your ideology has serious flaws.
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@abc68130 By that definition capitalism is socialism because public corporations are collectively owned by their shareholders. A more accurate description of all three is State (government) control (via direct or indirect ownership) of the means of production, the bureaucracy of which is most definitely not the collective Marx and Engles envisaged. Communism is the the collective control of the means of production by its stakeholders without an State.
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@TheImperatorKnight Only in the sense that you've got to call them/it/there something and have an interface with the outside Others. In hypothetical, full-unicorn anarchic-communism, there is no state and no ownership, only decentralized collectives for specific purposes. As we have seen, you can't get there from socialism. The trip from capitalism is shorter.
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@abc68130 The Nazis extended their control over the economy well before the war. It was all a part of their.... wait for it... socialist agenda to rebuild Germany after the collapse of the Weimar Republic and during the Great Depression. https://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/the-nazis-and-the-german-economy/
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@abc68130 Sigh... Please read the link...
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@abc68130 Try reading the entire page. Its a high level overview of pre-war German government policy and economic intervention where the Nazi party intertwined itself and controlled markets and capital, both in money and labor. It wasn't the Soviet socialism you are trying to think it should be to be considered "socialism". Companies got to keep their names and of course the rich got to keep their money, but it was still the party that called all the shots.
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@abc68130 government intervention in its economy is pretty much the basis of socialism. If you are going to continue to be obtuse I am disinclined to continue humoring you.
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@abc68130 Ah! I see what your problem is, you don't know the difference between socialism and communism. Please go do some reading and come back when you figure it out. This is not a 101 level class.
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@chriszelez7970 Incorrect. Imperialism and Fascism are not mutually exclusive. Do you forget that fascist Italy had a king? Spain kinda had one. Japan had private industry, but it was controlled by the state and as typical of fascism government was dominated by the military. Imperial Japan has always been considered fascist, if for no other reason than you are known by the company you keep.
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You must be new to the channel.
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You really didn't pay attention to the video did you?
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If our scale is the concentration of political power, communism is far-right, neo-liberalism (which is really republicanism) is centerish (depending on your interpretation and issue) , and fascism/socialism/stateism are all far left. Morality is an extremely unreliable measure of government control because it is rationalized and human beings can rationalize anything. What works is the Rule of Law and civil institutions that support it. Theoretically fascism, like socialism, should be highly structured, egalitarian, and stable (Sweden) because of its authoritarian nature, but its not because that tends towards totalitarianism (N. Korea).
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