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Comments by "Rob Fraser" (@krashd) on "Is Universal Basic Income The Key To The Future? | Answers With Joe" video.
@chopinbloc Then you are clearly well programmed already.
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@theman4884 In the US it is, because your president Chump ripped up all his climate aggreements and opened up a bunch of old steel mills and coal mines, any country could halve it's unemployment if they gave zero fucks about morality. In the rest of the developed world unemployment is still rising because we would rather try to fix a problem without creating a problem and so our polluters remain shut. In fact I got to see Didcot coal power station get demolished 10 days ago, being an American you can probably go see an old coal power plant get switched back on to create jobs for your technically progressive economy.
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Technology however doesn't and the first completely unmanned factories are already being built.
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The US has royalty, what else are the Houses of Bush, Cuomo, Koch, Walton, etc? Do you know what influence the Windsors have on politics? Zero. Can you say that about your nepotistic billionaire lobbyers? "Why should I be POTUS? Well because my brother is a state governor, my dad owns a corporation and my little sister is on the chief of staff, I'm royalty baby!" The US has more family dynasties than ancient China.
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Clearly seeing as most robbers are desperate and robbing out of necessity from being financially insecure it seems that it would work. Not every theft is a diamond heist.
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Move into the fields of autonomous machines or machine learning and you'll not only be good for life but you'll be sought after in the coming decades.
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This is nothing like Y2K, for a start the rise of automation is inevitable. If you think the likes of Trump, Koch and Walton will hold on to their employees when a one-off payment on a machine that requires no breaks or sleep will save them a fortune then you are delusional and/or well programmed.
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We Europeans have never given up on it, and I don't believe the US has ever given it a chance if I'm honest so I don't know where your comment is going..
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That's probably the most stupid analogy you could have thought of...
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The majority of history on socialism is success, you would not have a fire department or police department without "others paying for it", here in Europe we can add medical care, social care, education and a dozen other things on top of that, and currently UBI is being trialled in at least 4 countries including here in Scotland. Yay! for evil socialism and getting things for free (except really paid for by ourselves).
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You already pay a type of VAT, known as sales tax.
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No, just since the beginning of automation. When switchboard operators and gas lamp lighters lost their job they could retrain for something else, you can't retrain in an environment where multiple jobs are becoming obsolete simultaneously - you can only become part of the growing unemployed.
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In the UK we have one, 20% for anything that can't be considered a necessity, which is stuff like toiletries and baby food. Strangely enough adult food isn't considered a necessity 😄
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White folk used to tell slaves that work gave them a purpose, the Nazis even put such a thing above work camp gates "Arbeit Macht Frei". People should be able to choose their purpose and not be told what it is by others whose own purpose is to drink champagne in a penthouse.
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It would pay for itself, do you know how much we currently spend on welfare, healthcare, crime, prisons and mental health treatment? Those at the bottom of society are a drain on almost every social resource because a lack of financial security and living hand-to-mouth leads them into crime, drugs, stress and bad decision after bad decision.
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So your social welfare system offers more than 1k a month? Ours in the UK doesn't and it is supposedly the most generous welfare system there is...
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Nothing is free in a socialist society either...
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Zuckerberg, Musk, Gates? The people that are pro-UBI?
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No, it doesn't, it just has to work at a higher percentage than driven cars currently do. I have no idea what the numbers are but if current car deaths in the UK are 1,770 as of 2018 then 1,769 deaths on fully-automated roads would be an improvement, no need for that number to be zero although it obviously would be the ideal.
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I'm a Liberace. It's all good as long as I have my piano.
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@unknowntexan4570 Seeing as you do not have to pay machines once you've built them then yes it would be near free. With a microwave you do not need a cook, do you now pay your microwave what you would have payed a cook? They are already experimenting with automated hydroponics where vegetables are grown by machines, that is one more step in the process that no longer needs a regular financial transaction once it is up and running.
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He did state that some people are simply not responsible with money.
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