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@TomLyden-dt2ey
Yer living in dream land talking about fights you obviously never seen, at least not when they happened.
Duran NEVER, not in any of their 3 fights even came close to grinding Leonard down & only their first fight went 15 rds in which Duran won a VERY CLOSE decision, every round was razor close & every rd was action packed.
Not ONCE in his entire career did Hagler show the ability to perform at that level of intensity over 15 rds, & I cited his gas failure vs Vito at the championship level & now Im gonna cite his gas tank spluttering vs the big unbeaten Venezuelan "Obel" first time around, he won, he stopped him but he didnt look good doing it, those who kno, KNOW. Im not saying Hagler had suspect stamina, Im saying that Leonard PROVED, time & time again, that over 15 rounds there isnt a champion in any era who could out fight him, something Hagler failed to PROVE.
He waited vs Duran because he was in danger of getting EMBARRASSED. He prepared for one guy & another guy showed up. Duran was being tricky, timing him n countering him & Hagler tasted those hands of stone & knew he was in bother.
It was tactically & technically a very good fight by both men but it was the debut of CRAFTY VETERAN Duran, it wasn't the demonic, unholy terror who unified the LW Title then moved up n destroyed former champ Polomino then fought Leonard to a standstill. It wasn't even the Duran who lost a decision to Benitez. The Duran who got the decision over Leonard was the absolute best version of Duran that we ever seen & that guy maybe finishes Hagler over 15 rds. That guy puts Hearns on the back foot like Hagler did n maybe even gets him outa there in 3 like Hagler did, that guy was a DEMON, but that isnt the guy who Hagler went the distance with n had to work like hell to get there against, it was a slower more calculated less devastating version of Duran.
Over 15 rds, you have to start talking about Sugar Ray Robinson if yer gonna start speculating about who could maybe beat Leonard, & ONLY Sugar Ray Robinson.
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@TomLyden-dt2ey
Muddy waters, fudge & a big flaky victim card.
Awww, poor you, here have a tissue, or is it a tampon you need ?
As I stated:
1: Hagler didnt even come close to grinding down a slowed down more tactical Duran, it was nip & tuck for 15 rds. He won it, I didnt think it was as close on the cards as the judges but it was a majority decision & it resurrected Durans reputation & dented Haglers at that time.
2: Throughout his entire career Hagler never displayed anything over 15 rds to suggest he would even come close to grinding down Leonard over 15 rds. Leonard had proven time & again vs LEGENDARY reigning World Champs that NOBODY was capable of grinding him down or in real terms out-scrapping him over 15 rds. Anything to the contrary is absolute myth, fantasy & fairytales.
3: A soppy statement fulla flowery romantic notions backed up by nothing to do with what the men actually achieved in their careers does not make it fair, balanced or respectful, it makes it what it actually is, soppy, weak & an embarrassment to the sport & all who have participated in it.
4: Nobody rates Hagler higher than I do, I just dont rate his chances, the absolute best version we have seen of him arguably vs Sibson, Roldan & Hansho, over 15 rds vs a fresh, match fit Leonard & I base that on the reality of their 12 rdr when a ring rusted Leonard who gassed after 6 rds forced Hagler to gas after 9 rds, using nothing more than his ringcraft & will to win.
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