Comments by "Harry Mills" (@harrymills2770) on "Vince Vaughn: "Trump Is OWNING The Libs!"" video.
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Israel is just a problem for everybody, including Israel. You don't just step in and create a nation by force, but that's what we did. The history of the region is very complicated. Israel has been a state, off and on, for a very long time, and lived under various empires over the centuries as more or less autonomous vassal state, and at other times as a true, independent state.
Once created and recognized as a nation, then those rules apply. Some Arab states still refuse to recognize Israel. This makes it OK to screw with them. Israel's generally seemed to expand in response to attack. Give up the Golan heights, and before long, there are mortars falling on Tel Aviv. So they re-take the heights. Refuse to give them up. And when the Egyptians were warring with them, they grabbed land from the Egyptians.
It's kind of similar to how the Soviets basically annexed Eastern Europe after WW II, as much, I think, to have a buffer between Moscow and crazy Europeans as anything else.
A lot of stuff like that. A lot of stuff I don't know about the settlements. One thing I do know is that wherever the Israelis take over, it goes from wasteland to productive land. I think they're net exporters of agricultural goods, surrounded by neighbors who can't feed themselves, without imports.
Lots of bits and pieces.
Anyway, I agree with just about everything you said, although I'm still not sure I grok the whole picture regarding Israel. The more I learn, the more gray it becomes.
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I think the missile launches were more show than anything else. Big show. Lots of bang and boom. But they gave plenty of warning, warned people out of the area. People got out of the area, and big show.
Possibly (Yeah, it's a reach.), he was throwing Deep State a bone. But rather than feeding Isis just to fuck with Syria (and Russia), he basically said "You're on your own." That's a major departure from feeding rebels false hopes, just so you can see them kill your enemies and get killed in the process. It makes sense, in a totally Machiavellian way, but is not a moral policy for use to be pursuing, which is why I like Jimmy Dore.
I just don't see how meddling with other countries' internal politics - even seeking regime change - is very moral. And it always blows back on us a year or two or ten down the road, when things get "so bad" that we are then JUSTIFIED in more stupid shit.
Obama didn't put on any big shows. He just quietly dumped tons of bombs with non-stop drone attacks, and kept things stirred up.
I may not like Syria, but I'm glad we seem to be going through the herky-jerky motions of getting the hell out.
Only time will tell how much is Trump just being another style of pawn or if he actually disengages us, over time, from a lot of our Cold War mentality.
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