Comments by "Harry Mills" (@harrymills2770) on "Jordan B Peterson"
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Social media accelerates the rate at which ideas spread. Both good and bad ideas. But it's not like bad ideas were invented in 2013.
I know what you're saying about Tik-Tok, but all the stupid fads you see going around are really not embraced by as many people as it seems. Also, for every bad idea that gets traction, there's a good idea that can also spread, virally.
The longer Tik-Tok and other social media are around, the more positive I think it will be. Long-term users figure out what helps them and what doesn't help them, and things kind of naturally lean that way, whichever way it is, over time.
Just because we can all see the cultish behavior rising and falling doesn't mean that people weren't trapped in cults of all kinds over the years before social media. It was just not as easy for the rest of us to see, because virtually everything we saw was curated by a handful of rich people.
As long as we stay one step ahead of the censors, and I don't see how we cannot, short of breaking the Internet. And if our would-be controllers break the Internet, they're basically breaking their own institutional means of control, because it will signal a total failure by the institutions so bent on controlling us! LOL!
In any case, if the establishment breaks the Internet because we, the people, get too uppity, Tik-Tok will be the least of our problems.
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@emperorstevee ; i disagree. If education were truly run like a business, you'd get better and better education at lower and lower prices. What you're describing isn't really a business. You describe a RACKET. And the fact that we're all here discussing this wonderful lecture, and it's being delivered at zero marginal cost (cost of your Internet, essentially, but no additional cost for additional content, once the infrastructure's there), says that our institutions of learning are horribly dysfunctional.
Year by year, we pay MORE for a product that is of poorer and poorer quality! If education were the purpose of our public school system, it wouldn't look anything like what it looks like, now. It is, instead, a means for the state to indoctrinate the youth, but MORE importantly, keep a lot of not-good teachers employed. Heck, even allowing that most teachers mean well and do an OK job, you see our institutions of learning as nothing more or less than a sinecure for incompetent administrators. They're the ones getting most of the money, and the only thing that grows in these institutions is the number and salaries of administrators!
Get that office remodel. Gut the classrooms for safe spaces and administrators' private fiefdoms. Teachers buying their own damn materials so that kids can have paper to write on, and something to write with. No money for that sort of thing. Budgets are tight. But what we REALLY need is an office of diversity and equity that we got along fine without for centuries, and whose only purpose is apparently to go look for grievances and impose mandatory trainings in intersectionality and critical race theory. Total waste of everybody's time and taxpayers' money. And if they're successful with their equity and diversity, then students will be protesting their oppression! When college is closed down for a 'day of absence,' you have succeeded in your program, and all that remains is rooting out the last remaining white supremacists on campus, preferably with roaming bands of pissed-off students.
Public education, as we know it, is nothing more or less than a ridiculously expensive jobs programs for school administrators!
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Imagine what a parent could do to educate their child with the $10-15,000 we pay, PER PUPIL, to k-12 public schools. For about $1000 per year, you can hook up your kid with SOLID online learning management systems. The other $8-13,000 will buy a lot of organized activities, such as sports, the arts, music, whatever the parent wanted.
At the lowest level, around $10,000 per pupil per year, that's $100,000 for 10 students. One good teacher could do 10 kids a lot of good for $100,000!!!! Maybe we don't need all those superintendents, vice-principals, equity-and-diversity officers, building maintenance crews, and miscellaneous paper-pushers!
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Chris Indermuehle : You're the 2nd person I've seen on the Interwebz who agrees with me on this. The supposedly liberal-minded people are the people who created the zeitgeist and the institutional framework that enabled and empowered these postmodernist assholes in the first place. Gave them HUGE levers, so a small number of LUNATICS could move the entire country in a VERY unhealthy direction, via bloated and too-powerful institutions "for our own good."
TRUE liberals - CLASSICAL liberals - understand that the main thing people need from government is to be LEFT THE HELL ALONE! The bureaucracy is the new aristocracy.
Liberty-minded people have seen - and warned against - so-called "liberals'" government-centric solutions to all problems associated with the human condition. And now that the "true liberals" are FINALLY seeing the madness, they are totally blind to their own hand in creating it. Of COURSE our institutions were going to be hijacked by postmodernists or something quite similar. The mistake was giving centralized institutions so much power over everything.
Back in the '80s, I called it the iron fist inside the velvet glove. Nanny government is just an engine of tyranny waiting for bad times and/or pathological individuals to subvert to their own malevolent ends. They don't even have to be malevolent to cause tremendous pathology and suffering.
It's infuriating the way they act all surprised at the way things are heading.
They fed the dragon for DECADES and now they cry out in shock and horror when it razes the town with its flaming exhalations. This is exactly what the left have been asking for, and now they're pissed at everyone but themselves when they GOT what they asked for.
The tripod of fascist oppression is state-run media, education and health. That's all Hitler needs. That's what we've got. It's the same in the USA as the UK, only in the USA, the media controls are - or rather were until quite recently - below the level of public perception. American health system is also essentially run (very inefficiently) by government, although no one seems to understand, let alone admit it.
Now the mask is slipping. I just hope it's not too late. So many are hopelessly captured.
On the bright side, the Hate Mobs are very fickle. Today's protester is tomorrow's victim. Just have ONE thought of your own, and the mob turns on you. This "red-pills" a lot of liberals, who, to their credit, often discover principles of liberty and free speech quite late in life, when NOTHING would have budged them from their convictions, otherwise. To their discredit, they were FINE with running roughshod over others, as long as they were an accepted member of the mob.
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@The_Lord_has_it Yes. "I can't imagine anyone disagreeing with us on this" is a common comment on both left- and right-leaning channels. When you make statements like that, you're announcing "I'm in your bubble!" to the bubble crowd.
After the 2016 election, one of the things that made Democrats CERTAIN that the election was fixed was that they didn't know anyone at all who voted for Trump. This said more about their workplace and social bubble than it said about how people really were thinking.
I saw a lot of that at work (academia). Lots of colleagues freaking out, looking for the ba$tard$ who voted for Trump in their midst, finding very few, but de-friending them at once. But, even in a bubble, there are going to be quite a few who think differently. They all know better than to voice their opinions at the office, if they work in a college, so the bubble is preserved for all the faithful.
I don't wholly agree with conservatives or liberals. As a "true liberal," I don't like the surveillance state, the military-industrial complex, the media-industrial-complex, the health-and-welfare-industrial complex, the pro-war, regime-change neocon tendencies on left AND right....
To me, it's just being consistently anti--war and pro-freedom and pro-self-determination. Bottom-up rule, rather than top-down rule, and both so-called conservatives and so-called liberals LOVE top-down solutions once they make it to the top, regardless of party affiliations. Buy votes with handouts and fear-mongering. That's the game.
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Yes. The only humane way to achieve all the environmental goals we set for ourselves is to get the government and other authoritarians out of the "save the planet" campaign. Prosperity is the key. And the key to prosperity is basic civil and human rights guaranteeing persons and their property. As soon as you're even a little bit prosperous, you tend to seek higher rungs on Maslow's ladder, including the stewardship-of-your-neck-of-the-woods rung.
Wood for heating isn't as bad as you think, if it's done properly, with rocket-stove mass heat systems. But the EPA is too slow to embrace the new/old tech, and without its seal of approval, you can't get your home insured if it incorporates such concepts. There's also no way for corporations to get rich off you for implementing simple green tech. The "establishment" wants you on their grid, obeying its orders and regulations. Its idea of an environmental and energy-efficient home is a cracker box on top of the ground that doesn't breathe.
Even if these bureaucrats mean well, they're unequipped to stay current and they only ask the most conspicuous robber barons how they should go about ordering us around.
There are a lot of old- and new-tech ideas I'd implement in my own house in the suburbs, but most of them are "illegal." I can't capture the rain off my own roof. I can't get a permit for a rocket-stove mass heater, and even if I can, I can't get it insured, because nobody knows what to make of it.
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As our society evolves, I can see having children younger, and then doing more career stuff, later. Instead of college, learn a trade (which can be done in high school), get a good-paying job. Then go to school, after you know a little something about the world, and you want to move on from the one trade.
It's huge to have your kids raised up by the time you're 40-ish. Anyway, I can see this as a good lifestyle for a lot of people, with some making enough $$$ off their trade to retire a lot earlier than a guy who went straight from high school to college and took 4 or more years to graduate, assuming they graduated.
I went the academic route, and I was upwards of 40 before I made enough money to reasonably support a family. But if I'd decided to be an electrician, I'd've been good to go by or before age 20, if I took some vo-tech.
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I think Tyson is a blowhard who sounds good, but talks over his head (and out of his a**) on subjects in which he is not very well-versed. Astrophysics? Expert. Everything else? Pompous layman. I also watched that interview, and my specialties are math and geology, both of which subjects he butchered, while sounding very cogent.
I feel the same way about world-class linguist Noam Chomsky, who ALSO needs to stay in his lane, but people SWOON because he's smart in one thing and SOUNDS smart on other things, when in actuality, he's an ignorant socialist, with no clue on free-market economics, human liberty, and human progress, in my opinion. But nobody's hanging on MY every word, nor should they.
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Awesome, scran. I do think that there's something biological underlying our apparent need for - and apparent benefits of - religion, else religion would not exist. For instance, I know I wouldn't smoke and I'd probably eat better and on a more regular schedule, with a wife and kids, if I were orthodox American protestant-type (or Muslim, which also places high value on family (recruits)).
As it is, I muddle through, childless, as a skeptic/agnostic. I can definitely see there being some kind of "religion gene," and its being pretty universally expressed, across our species. That hunter who put absolute belief in his god to guide his arm probably throws a better spear. Yanno?
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The reason people think the subatomic world is probabilistic is because it's too small for us to see individual subatomic particles (too small and maybe too fast). We can't see the jellybeans, but we can weigh a bunch of them all at once, and theorize about the individual jellybean, through statistical inference, or simply by dividing by the total number of jellybeans after we observe them acting together.
This is a big hang-up I have with the Bohr-Einstein debate. Bohr's quantum mechanics enabled us to make predictions, sure, but just because you can't see something doesn't mean that it is not behaving deterministically, or as Einstein would say "God does not play dice."
I'm probably out in left field, but there are some artifacts of these probabilistic models, such as the bell curve, that according to the model, predict a very small - but positive - probability of ants that are 100 feet tall or elephants that are 1 inch tall. They're just out in the tail of the distribution. Now, take the fact that you're only ever dealing with billions or trillions of these objects. Small probability of it ever happening to any one particle becomes near-certainty, simply due to the large number of trials/particles involved. Maybe there's only a 0.00001 probability of an event, but run the experiment 1,000,000,000,000 times and the probability of that 0.00001 probability event becomes near certain. The infinite # of monkeys typing at random sort of deal.
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Yes. I believe that all parents should know about hosts.deny and hosts.allow concept.
For your kids, you should basically deny all domain names. Then, allow a list of domains that you know are OK for them, because you checked them out, either with your child or not, but probably better to do with your child. Add to the hosts.allow file as your children ask and you can check. You can of course allow a lot of DNS's your child never heard of, because you think they're broadening in the right way(s).
They probably won't like it, but hey, I didn't like having to be home by dark when I was a kid, and it's the same kind of reasonable restriction to place on a child.
But for ADULTS, I think these social media platforms should not be making censorship decisions, the same way the telephone company isn't responsible for what you say on the phone.
I think lies and misinformation get exposed and shot down a LOT quicker in an open and unrestricted (by 3rd parties) forum.
"Hate speech" is a HUGE pet peeve of mine. Big censorship engine there, that's ripe for the taking and has already been used, extensively. No such thing as a hate crime. But there are crimes already on the books, where your open hatred becomes a factor in the penalty phase (after being found guilty), and rightly so, because motives do make a difference.
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Liberals took over the establishment, making them essentially conservative in outlook. Different world view than the previous conservatives, but by definition, preserving and consolidating their political gains MADE them conservative! I first conceived this idea as a visiting professor in an insular mountain town that had a small college attached to it. Everyone at the college was pretty far left, and that created a weird, twisted orthodoxy from which no one dared depart for fear of losing social status in the college.
Everybody had the same opinion about everything, and they were unaware of how "conservative" and regressive their behavior was.
Anyway, I've always been a bit of a contrarian/iconoclast. I was just as rebellious and irreverent in the '70s being forced to go to church, as I was in the 2000s, where the ruling religion was leftist ideology at work. I say "leftist ideology" because it's the modern use of the term, but the minute you go from speaking truth to power and being suspicious of concentrated power to celebrating MORE centralized authority (for your own good), you cease being of the left and have become a creature of the regressive right.
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My very basic take on quantum mechanics is that statistics and probability are how we get a handle on things that are too small to see, individually.
Consider the bell curve - the normal distribution. It describes populations quite well, quite often, but that distribution will give you a small, but positive probability of 500-pound mice. We know that there aren't any 500-pound mice, but the bell curve is pretty handy in the vicinity of the mean.
What makes quantum mechanics so toxic (in my opinion) is people really want it to say more than it CAN say. I agree with Einstein: "God does not play dice." Just because we can't measure things doesn't mean there's something magical going on. It just means that we're limited in what we can measure. We can't SEE that atom, so we make measurements on a LOT of atoms, all at once, with no real idea what any one of them is actually doing, so we speculate and come up with probabilities. Then idiots get ahold of those speculations and draw ridiculous conclusions, in my humble opinion.
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The problem with wind power, as conceived by central planners, is they're big, expensive, loud, and they're an eye-sore. How about encouraging small wind generators for individuals? Instead of trying to do it all at once, from on high, we need to think about people being empowered to live less dependent on centralized grids, which, when compromised, bring everybody down at the same time.
EVs is sort of similar. Instead of trying to replace ICEVs by mandates from on high, why not LET electric vehicles that are good for getting around town be produced? Trying to replace conventional, long-distance passenger vehicles (let alone freight vehicles) all at once, by force, is sucking all the capital out of more achievable and practical solutions to the pollution problem.
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I always theorized that you take out of a hallucinogenic experience what you take into it, whether you know you're packing baggage or not. I always felt like it tore down the walls between conscious and sub-conscious. Whatever ends of worms there are buried in your mind can be seen and dealt with. Those worms can also give you a "bad trip."
I think the standard wormy bits revolve around existential angst. We can bury thoughts of death MOST of the time, but it's always percolating under the surface, which is why there were so many stories of "Jesus freaks" in LSD circles. They can't hide from the abyss when these drugs bare their subconscious.
I had a bad trip of my own, but somehow realized at some point that I was projecting my own fears on the world around me in that state.
I'd beware using them around the "wrong people," and determining who the right people are can be problematic. I wrestled with my own demons at what started out as parties, many a time. Some people were toxic, some were vulnerable, some were contemplative. Nobody really knew what they were doing, and some had "bad trips." IMO, nobody set out to mess with somebody's head, but a lot of that took place.
Under the influence, I could read a room like nobody's business. I KNEW things about people I had never met. iMO, it was because my subconscious picks up on clues that my conscious mind doesn't. Ordinarily, I'd just get a feeling about somebody, but not be able to put my finger on why, even though that feeling eventually proved to be correct.
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Kytsche: I like your take. Mine's a little different on what's driving things, and why Europe is in such a state. I don't think they took their cue from US on the direction they decided to take. I think they're ahead of us on the path to meltdown, but not tbecause they're somehow trying to please our elites.
Still, good historical perspective on the untoward military presence and continued footing-of-the-bill for security matters by the U.S. As you surely know, our presence in Europe was because we were the only thing standing between the Soviets and the English Channel on the continent at the end of WW II!
And from then on, there was ALWAYS some urgency necessitating our continued presence. I think European countries haven't been paying their own security bills for decades, and that probably livened their step on the redistributionist, nanny government road.
And there's nothing wrong with government-run schools, unless you don't like what the government thinks ought to be taught. And there's nothing wrong with helping the poor, with government help, unless it creates a permanent underclass who will always vote for the continuation and expansion of those programs out of their own self interest.
Throw enough guilty white people on top of that pile and you've got a big-government coalition, world without end. Unless Atlas shrugs before things get too far down the road, and things come to blows.
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Meh. Colleges and universities aren't going away, but I do expect some die-back. They are, at root, all about survival, and surviving/navigating the insanity coming down from government is what put 'em in this ridiculous pickle.
RIGHT down the line, college administrators will always seek to protect their gravy train, cover their asses, and expand their domains. Rolling over for wacked-out social justice warriors is more about cowardice and survival than anything else, with a few wacked-out-administrator exceptions. When enrollments drop in Berkeley, but most of all, when ENDOWMENTS drop, they'll come to Jesus, so to speak.
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