Comments by "Harry Mills" (@harrymills2770) on "Andrew Klavan | Can We Keep Silent in a World Gone Mad?" video.
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I'm more of a Jordan Peterson kind of guy, even though I have Christian archetypes hammered deep into my psyche, and I think like a Christian. I just don't think I need to rely on the Authority of God - as communicated to me by Bronze-Age shepherds - to back up my arguments. You lose half of the people you're trying to win over when your fall-back position is a faith-based "God Said."
The example Klavan brings up is incest. He argues that a pure scientist would say it was OK, if you just make sure there're no accidental pregnancies. I'm pretty scientific, but I still would argue against brother-sister pairings on evolutionary biology grounds, and I wouldn't have to turn off every agnostic/atheist in the crowd by just saying "It's a sin." Having sex with a sibling changes that relationship forever, and there are evolutionary reasons for the taboo. There are consequences to breaking the taboo, including the fact that it IS taboo. But that isn't the only reason. It will affect all future relationships by the incestuous couple in ways that are not completely understood.
If you want to have a real debate with someone who does NOT accept the authority of YOUR God, you can't have your religion as the main source of the authority of your arguments. Your religious faith can guide you without being your only tool for disputing/refuting the arguments of others.
I think Peterson (and Jung, apparently) are closer to where I'm at, intellectually, although my lizard brain is provided its superego by archetypes and lessons handed down to me in the Meshoppen United Methodist Sunday School. Heh. I agree with most Christians on most things, except for the "everlasting life" hook that seems to come more from MEN seeking to control MEN in this world than any evidence it came from God. The teachings of Jesus seem more like doing our best to create the closest thing to a just and loving society on THIS Earth (God's Kingdom), but I don't think it means that Satan is winning, just because millions (billions) haven't accepted Jesus as their Savior, and believe the whole Father, Son and Holy Ghost (even though I think they're pretty wonderful archetypes to guide a person in this world).
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