Comments by "Thomas Doubting" (@thomasdoubting2730) on "A Cat Joins A Ramadan Prayer As Muslims Celebrate The Holy Month | Insider News" video.
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@Heerwrites390 By the time of Islam, the spherical shape of Earth and a close approximation of its size had been known for half a millennium, and a man living in Arabia didn't need to read Greek to know that, especially one making a living by trading goods fare and vide.
(I think that was known, maybe even independently, in both India and China by then.)
As for the stability and integrity of the text, you really need to widen your scope of study from apologists and propagandists.
Written Arabic was in its infancy during Mohammed's time, and the preservation of information in oral societies values themes and the morals of stories more than absolute fidelity.
None of the writings from the time of Mohammed are known to survive, and none of those Qurans claimed to be from the first standardization effort can be proven to be that old. Ä
They don't agree with each other, and they contain numerous alterations, corrections, and substitutions of entire lines.
And the standardization of the text, with all consonants(?), dialects, punctuations, etc., wasn't agreed upon until the 1920s.
The Cairo text, I think it's called.
Anyway, I'm not convinced of the claims made by the Quran or by Muslims about the Quran, and at this point, I can't imagine what would convince me.
Certainly not any threats, about hell or otherwise.
And since you are committed to a community that has a death sentence for too much free thought, I doubt you will attempt to look up any but the approved sources of information.
Take care.
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@Heerwrites390 Though i haven't read the Bible or Quran cover to cover, I have read passages, and ther context, pointed out to me by belevers.
I have hade conversation like this more times than I can count, both irl and online, I have seen conversations, debates, lecture and entire collage corses on youtube.
And I remain unconvinced, either because my 'heart is hardend' ore ther is no deaper truth to be found.
Even if you don't mention hell, the threat is always there, towards you and me both. When a believer (Jews, Christians, Muslims) is faced with uncomfortable verses about genocide, sexual slavery, death penalty for apostasy, a cosmology consisting of a flat earth under a 7-layered sky dome where the sun, moon, and stars are fastened and demons rule, trying to spy on God. Everything these religious texts say is either laughably wrong, completely pedestrian or creatively updated, taken out of context, and translated in a way that the text complies with the world as we now understand it.
And always there is a threat.
Hear is a suggestion for you:
Look up the argument that critics of religions make, in ther own words, not restated by apologets.
Look up som debates, look at there sorses, listen to there arguments.
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