Comments by "SkyRiver" (@SkyRiver1) on "The Young Turks" channel.

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  2. Usually TYT sees through red herrings that are set up by the power elite to restrict our freedoms and impower those whose career advancement depends on stirring up hysteria then offering a solution that is exponentially more harmful than the problem. In this case TYT fell for the same old dirty trick like some county bumpkin at the county fair. When they were first soliciting public opinions on a more restrictive pain medication legislation, everybody with any real knowledge on the dynamics at play here knew this would only result in a major increase in the use of heroin and a corresponding increase in the cash flow of a number of international criminal and terrorist networks. Are you so blind as to not have a clue that the intention of the super restrictive regulations regarding the prescription of pain meds for chronic conditions set up barriers to both the sufferers of such pain and the doctors who wish they could help them. When this new restrictive legislation which makes it impossible for people with chronic pain to have a regular recurring prescription, without continual visits to their doctor, one for each prescription, and enrollment in pain clinics, which will offer a number of alternative therapies, the vast majority of which will not help the vast majority of sufferers. Use you head, this is just the next, "War On" and the only ones who are going to benefit from this criminal scam, are the bankers who wash the illegal profits of the rapidly expanding heroin market, the criminal, terrorist, and the NGOs that use it for an alternative source of funds for black ops so dirty that even black ops command can't tolerate the illegalities involved, like Reagan did in Iran/Contra. Let's not forget the directors of programs that will see a renewed influx of funding despite the restriction on marijuana being shown for it was (pure lies and folly that alienated at least three generations from the American mainstream),this really doesn't equal the folly of the present situation, or the total suffering, death, and vast corruption that the billions of dollars in additional profits for international organized crime will have on our society at large. They already have enough power to rouse up all this hysteria over what is just a bulge in population entering an age were it is just natural to seek a little analgesia. In Canada you can buy codeine over the counter without a prescription, and they have a huge appetite per capita for codeine preparations, and you can just see how decadent their society is compared to ours. Instead of acting like a bunch of ignorant dupes in this matter why don't you do some real investigative journalism and uncover the payoffs to legislators by the interests who want to restrict the sale of strong analgesics thus driving millions into the heroin market, which will cost them much less than a legal prescription, but of course has many more risks, all most all of which stem from its legal status.  My own doctor predicted a wave of suicides as the new legislation when into effect. In this he was correct. The people who, despite all of the evidence to the contrary, still believe that the government is looking out for them in this matter. It isn't, this is a program that from the very start, seemed designed to produce crime and death by overdose, and of course the suicides of people who will not take responsibility for their own pain management, and get out on the street or under the net, and buy some heroin when the new system throws insurmountable obstacles in the face of the pain sufferer. Society is once again the victim of the power elite pulling off the same old tricks in this same old matter. Like marijuana the initial restriction of the sale and use of opium in Western Civilization was in Great Britain, when it was restricted at the bequest of behind the scenes manipulation of the legislature by the distillers interests. The distillers who traditionally served the needs of the miners and factory workers so that they could remain somewhat oblivious of their pain and hopelessness of their situation. Opium was more effective, far less harmful physically so far less harmful that it is usually unbelievable to people whose thoughts on the subject have been subjected to the propaganda currently in circulation regarding this matter. Really, how can you be so irresponsible and stupid?  You did not even look into this matter at all, you just read and then commented on a press release by some official or official sounding organization. Are you gonna be part of the solution or continue to be the unknowing dupe of forces that profit from victimizing people who are desperate to just not be hurting so much that they would in many cases rather be dead than face another day of agony. . . . No only an unsympathetic, psychopath who was incapable of any degree of empathy, or who possessed not a nanoparticle of intelligence, would be the ignorant supporter of such a regressive and draconian policy as the one we now have, and which you don't even seem to know about. Fu*k all the people responsible for the new wave of criminals they have helped create, not to mention the incalculable suffering by the innocent victims of your idiot legislation, the stupidity, and failure of which was proven and predicted by every useful and successful drug policy ever enacted (see Portugal, Switzerland, and the new freedoms being passed in South America. In every case decriminalization worked, largely eliminated the street crime associated with heroin addiction and the cost to maintain a habit. This cost is actually pennies but for the illegal nature and resulting inflated prices that the various criminal and banking organizations profit so greatly from. So thanks for making what is already a colossal and devastating problem just a little bit worse.
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  16. Bernie $ VS Bloomburg $ Apologies to those who took arithmetic in elementary school. I know you already know this -- even so you may not be able to envision the difference in these fortunes and this explanation may help. Bernie has a stack of two million one dollar bills that he wants to give to Judy. Bernie is old and can only give her one dollar each second. If Bernie is wearing a catheter and doesn't need to go to the bathroom and can hand Judy dollar bills 24 hours a day, 7 days a week: how long will it take Bernie to give Judy his two million dollars? answer: There are 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hours and 24 hours in a day: Therefore Bernie can hand Judy 86,400 dollar bills every day. So he can give her $86,000 per day. So it would take Bernie just about 23 days and three and a half hours to give Judy two million dollars. (since $86,400 goes into $2,000,000 a little over 23.15 times) In twenty three days Bernie could hand Judy his two million dollars, one dollar at a time, if he can stay awake, and he can, cause he is a vastly woke dude. How long would it take little Mike to hand Judy his 60,2 billion dollars one dollar at a time? Mike is also old and wearing a catheter, is being fed intravenously and attended by his personal medical staff. Through the wonders of modern pharmacology and a neural implant he purchased, Mike can also stay awake. But due to age Mike can also only hand Judy one dollar bill per second. So Mike, like Bernie can give Judy $86,400 per day. There are 6,759.26 ($86,400) in 60.2 billion dollars so it would take Mike six hundred and ninety six thousand seven hundred and fifty nine days to hand Judy his 60.2 billion dollars. That's 696,759.26 days. That many days equals one thousand nine hundred and eight years and a few days short of eight months. So it would take Mike 1908.93 years to hand Judy all his money (that we know of). Bernie would be broke in 23 days. Mike would be broke in 1,909 years. Who is the oligarch? Addendum: Please note that since Mike is a capitalist who profits, not from his labor or producing goods but by investment, his wealth will actually be increasing by more than $86,400 per day because of profits on his fortune. So in reality, no matter how many thousands of years he spends handing Judy his money, he would never be able to do it and would always have more to hand her each day than he did the day before. Addendum PS: Old Jewish wisdom: "Every time somebody makes something for nothing, somebody else makes nothing for something." In Bloomburg's and the other billionares cases this "somebody else" is you and everyone else. If you don't understand this you are truly blind and will never understand why wealth is concentrating in fewer and fewer hands and you are being robbed in ways you neither understand nor can do anything about without a fundamental paradigm shift in our laws, government, and cultural world-view.
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  18. You make the common mistake of equating being stoned on pot with being drunk on booze. Does drinking coffee make you a worse driver? -- No it doesn't -- it is a drug, it has psychological and physiological effects (for those of you who still think there is a distinction there) yet only an idiot would think that drinking coffee causes traffic accidents. All recreational molecules are not equal. All of their effects are not equal. Some drugs will actually make you able to drive better in some situations. The entire Nazi blitz of WW2 was an intoxicated action with the troops on a amphetamines handed out by their COs. Why do you think that athletes preform better under the influence of certain drugs? Everything is a drug. My words are drugs that are now bringing about an emotional and intellectual effect in you, anger is a drug. It is much more dangerous to drive angry than stoned on pot. But leave it to the simple minded to reduce everything to the simplistic modes of thinking that they use out of laziness and habit. Then drugs are drugs (except for the coffee, chocolate, sugar, natural flavorings, environmental contaminants, news reports, books, thoughts, environmental toxins and having to deal with imbeciles on a regular basis.) Didn't you catch on yet. Almost everything that politicians say is a lie to increase or maintain their power. It goes no further than that. Also the worst people to put in charge of things in the role of a leader are the people who really want to be the leader. They will lead you straight into their own bespoke form of insanity. Wait and see. . . .
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  20. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again you woke puddin' heads. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  28. No you don't.  There never was a prescription that is written "as needed", you dumba**, that's just the instructions on how to take your meds that the drugstore prints on the bottle. If you take that bottle and try to get it refilled without a visit to your doctor, or your doctor lying about a visit and they will tell you it cannot be refilled.  You will have to either have a housecall, be active in a pain management program and visit there before it is refilled, or go to your doctor's office or an emergency room -- every time you need it refilled. That is the new Federal law, and apparently between yourself and TYT you know nothing about it. Nevertheless, you managed to make an ass of yourself, by such narcissistic pride of your ignorance. I actually thought such instant karma was reserved for the far far right, who shoot themselves in the foot almost every time they shoot off their mouths. Just like you did. Though they seldom have the perception to be able to realize it without some assistance. Then they get all touchy because another one of their mistakes is to equate ignorance with stupidity. While it is certainly not true that all conservatives are stupid. Far, far, from it. All of them are ignorant of just how untrue the facts they base their opinions on are.  For instance, some males on the subcontinent are very conservative regarding the practice of sati, and many of these same conservatives are capable of extreme mental vigor and problem solving abilities, a man can be highly competent in abstract metaphysical cognition, or higher mathematics, and still think that it is a nice tradition for a wife to throw herself, or be thrown by relatives onto the funeral pyre of her husband. Sort of like the people who can honestly lay claim to an IQ higher than a moron, and still support Donald Trump's bid. Haven't these people ever seen a conman before. Bernie = statesman Trump = conman
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  29. Politics sucks ass. Isn't it apparent to everyone by now that our political system is an archaic artifact? An artifact based on humanities inability to escape it's bestial warlike nature . . . :campaigns, winner take all victories, leaders who neither lead (excepting the advancement of the concerns of their patrons) nor have the wisdom to make intelligent impartial decisions on the issues of the day. This political web of deceit is a self-perpetuating parasite that warps collective social culture and is itself continually warped due to shameful self-interested exploitation by those who control the economy through control of debt manipulation. Interests and principalities that spew false narratives which have contaminated every aspect of our expectations of daily life, and our future aspirations (or lack of them). I suggest to you that there are other alternatives. Far more efficient alternatives, that would benefit the whole of society and reduce the corruption that is not only a systemic disease of our political system, but is now the very sinew, marrow, and circulatory system, of a body politic that has done everything possible to free itself from both morality and justice through legislative and legal complexities, technicality, outright lies, and all manner of fuckery. It is time to evolve folks. Like a cool pool on a hot day, once you take the plunge it's refreshing and rejuvenating, but before you take that plunge there is hesitation and a resistance to a state change. And we must change the state of our state unless we consider moving into the future by looking through a rear-view mirror and stepping on our own dicks every step of the way while perpetually bitiching about it to be some kind of desirable human prerogative. Because as it is, it will never be able to meet our real human needs or provide anything more than updated reruns of the same old conundrums. If human culture and civilization is to advance it must evolve to a higher state, a higher system of state, which will nurture higher states of mind in the populace, not continually drag it back by aggravating the primal survival instinct in a technological environment wherein this instinct is counterproductive on numerous levels. I suggest to you that a body politic based on a NeoConfusian Techno-Meritocracy would not only be vastly superior for the state of the state, state of the economy, state of human advancement, and our collective state of mind, that any comparison to the present drunken-knife-fight-in-a-gilded-bordello that passes for our government would be comical.
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  39. Dan Dennet and some of his atheist associates have been backing the hypothesis that a course in comparative religion, taught at the high school level, would quite painlessly lead to lots less true believers.  Personally I believe it would be more effective to teach it during grade-school then again in a more sophisticated form in high school.  This would allow kids to ridicule the various lies of other religions in the fun yet direct way that only kids have.  Then as they get the influx of hormones and become teens, they can turn this sense of irony and humor on their parents religion, should they be so unlucky as to be stuck with some kind of fundamentalist parents. It is really too bad that humans generally equate a native sophistication and depth of their quite physical limbic system, with what they refer to as "spiritual" and about which, similar to the dynamics of the more recent use of the word "consciousness" anyone can say any kind of nonsense and there is a good chance no one will call them out on their ignorance. Here is a fun fact to confront a true believer in the Bible with.  For all intents and purposes, the current actions of ISIL are near identical to the actions taken by the ancient "Israelites"   I think the man's name was Joshua, and if memory serves, when he moved against his neighbors, the Israelites would slay all the men, sell the women into slavery, and take the virgin girls for brides.  And of course take their land and possessions, but sometimes the madness even extended to killing all the animals. They, like ISIL, said that God told them to do it.
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  58. The Clinton campaign to keep the government in the criminal hands of the bankers has now spent over a million dollars to pay trolls to argue with Bernie supporters on line. I don't know what she thinks she is getting for her big bucks. I have been online since the first SLIP connections were available to private individuals, back then usegroups was about the only thing online with hundreds of .alt groups. In all the tens of thousands of online arguments in comments and forums, I have never seen one person change their mind on any matter involving politics. Not one. . . But how is it that we are apparently about to end up with an election in which the two most persons (and I use the term lightly) in America are running? Don't be surprised if Bill Clinton runs for vice-president, and if that happens, don't be surprised if Bill has her knocked-off. It's the Clinton way; use the vote of deceived African/American, who don't know enough history and current events to understand that no president since the Emancipation Proclomation has done more to hurt them and disenfrranchise and keep then poor than the "first American black president" Bill (send-our-factories-to-China Clinton. Really, who would be a worse candidate than an person who had her puggy greedy fingers in every illicit scam the government darlings have come up with since she campaigned for Barry (no-water) Goldwater, well maybe Trump, but he may be one of the few who could destroy what him and his billinare chums have left of the American Dream. And no matter what he says, he is gonna go after Social Security, because it is money that he and the other one tenth of one percenters should be getting. All you Joe Sixpacks and Larry the fantasy plumber agree with that. The poor people who have absolutely no say at all in the governance of our nation are the ones who have screwed the pooch and bankrupted the country -- right? So we should further deregulate Wall Street and increase defense and police spending, because who is going to protect the owners of America from the citizens of the vast fashist plutocracy we live in when the populace at large finally -- FINALLY realize that the one percent has been at war with the 99 percent in every way, police brutality, subversion of the regulations that protect the country from rapeacious banksters, and insane defense contractors, the continual contraction of freedoms and protection from the government, deregulation and privatization of the military and penal systems, who Huh? The middle class did not disappear entirely as of yet, but it is heading that way, more rapidly all the time. Meanwhile American score new highs in stupidity ratings as a stunned civilized world listen to the rantings of a spoiled brat, and wonder at the incredible stupiduity necessary to mistake a conman for a statesman.
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  74. Here is the reason that ATT does not offer high speed internet in low income areas. ATT is part of the government low income internet access program. https://www.att.com/shop/internet/access/#/ Because of this they are obligated to provide the fastest service that they offer in a participants area for either $5 or $10 a month. The rules of being part of this low income program state that the data is unlimited without any price increase for big users and it's speed cannot be throttled to slow it down. They get around the obligations of this program to provide fast internet to the poor by not offering a fast service in low income areas. Here is an example of how they cheat both the government and their customers: My ATT phone line had provided 9MB/second speeds when I was paying a local ISP $60 a month. I switched to ATT access. When the tech came out for the installation he tested the line and said that it was capable of stable operation at 9MB/ second. Which is exactly what I was getting on a line that was leased from ATT by Sonic, who then resold it to Cruzio (a local ISP). When I switched to ATT (who own the line) my speed was slashed by two thirds to 3MB/second (better than dial-up but not by much) even though the line was capable of far faster speeds. ATT does not offer a faster service in my area (which has a lot of trailer courts in it). This is their way of getting around the law that says they are not allowed to throttle my speed or limit my total through-put. Once again I give you the real reason behind the press releases that you read to fill up time. If you were really investigative reporters instead of regurgitating press releases you would be investigating and exposing Robert Mercer's brutal political actions.
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  82. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  84. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  85. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  91. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  97.  @toomuch8232  I have learned to differentiate between bullshit and reality which apparently you have not. You don't know the difference between communism, socialism, and the form of capitalism known as democratic socialism. All you seem to have learned is the brainwashing that the power-elite spoon feeds fools 24/7. Fact: All the democratic socialist countries are capitalist. Fact: Neither Venezuela, nor Cuba is a social democracy. Fact: All the democratic socialist countries have, better and less expensive medical care than we do -- unless you are very wealthy and even then in many cases they are superior. Fact: All the democratic socialist countries have free or very inexpensive higher education. Fact: All the democratic socialist countries have financial safety nets and inexpensive or free childcare, and maternity leaves for both parents. Fact: All the democratic socialist countries have paid vacations that are usually about five weeks a year. Fact: The citizens of democratic socialist countries are happier than Americans on average. Fact: And this one should just make you slap your face if you have a brain in your head: All the democratic socialist countries have higher social mobility than the USA. That mean that if you are born into the lower financial class you have a better chance of ending up rich in Denmark then you do in the USA. So it seem that you are the one who has learned nothing in all your years. I, on the other hand started out as a near fascist libertarian/republican, but learned the truth about the power-elite who rule our country through deceit and disinformation, and when that doesn't work, through paid off politicians and men with guns. You can easily verify all the facts yourself, if you even have the smarts to actually tell truth from right-wingnut propaganda. Which I highly suspect you don't and will rather respond with nothing but more meaningless bullshit.
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  101. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  102. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  107.  @Starsurfer74  . . . "defend your country in areas where they are really needed?" You mean now? At this moment? You think the troops in action are defending you? Man have you swallowed the cool-aid. As for your other comment: I always like it when someone displays both their ignorance and inability to do the least little search before they spout their knee-jerk opinions. It's not an either or thing, they used the legion and slaves. From Alberto Yagos on Quora -- literally the first response on Google. Are you that lazy? . . . 'With so many engineers and men trained, when they made a Roman permanent fort they also built accessory buildings like baths, headquarters and even civil construction like several buildings outside the fort (cabannae), the ones for the legionaries’ families (before and after they were allowed to marry), aqueducts, bridges, roads, amphitheaters… On his return Corbulo set his legionaries to digging a massive canal between the rivers Meuse and Rhine. The legions were immensely useful for infrastructure development; trained legionaries could be used directly for tasks as road building or seconded to lend their skills to civic provincial projects. For example, legionary engineers generally oversaw the civilian construction of amphitheatres and aqueducts The Roman Empire Parallels from Britain (where ancient timbers are better preserved) suggest that although the Romans were aware of the properties of various types of wood, military construction usually relied on local timber, even if inferior; from this we may infer that army units were probably cutting their own lumber. Vegetius (writing in the fourth century, but the statement may be true for earlier periods as well) confirms that 'the legion also has carpenters... and the other artisans necessary for the building of winter quarters'. Moreover, soldiers were undoubtedly utilised to assist in civil construction; we know for instance that the Fourth and Sixth Legions built roads in Navarra under Augustus, while the Seventh Legion helped construct the bridge at Aquae Flaviae in 79. Roman Spain (Routledge Revivals) Amphitheatres... many legionary examples produce direct evidence of having been constructed by the army Handbook to Roman Legionary Fortresses According to van Enckevort (2005), only the army and not the local elite possessed the means to transport the building stone used in these projects, and this claim appears to be borne out by the use of different forms of stone in foundations postdating Legio X Gemina's departure. Therefore, the occurrence of legionary roof tiles, Grauwacke, tuff and Norroy limestone in public buildings of the early second century is strong evidence that army personnel had a role in civil construction during the same period. Domestic Cattle and Economic Change in the Roman Period Lower Rhineland: The Civitas Batavorum The discovery of Legio XX stamped tiles referring to Viducius at a rural tile-works in Merseyside confirms him as a legionary contractor; close examination of tile sizes shows that contractors appear to have played a significant part in the production for at least two of the legions. Legionary Tile Production in Britain | Britannia | Cambridge Core The city of Timgad (Algeria) was supposedly mainly built by the army:
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  111. GM did recent buybacks for exactly the reason you give. Tesla never did any buybacks. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  112. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  114. That was then, this is now. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  116. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  118. The Tesla model Y is the best selling car of any type in the world. It is the best selling car in Sweden too. The people who actually work for Tesla in Sweden want the unions to go away. Read the Swedish news. They know they will be better off without a union than with because the employee stock program will go away. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  133.  @danpham333  Back. It's a meaningless stat because you are comparing all business. So of course established companies that are large enough to be targeted by unions will average more than the conglomeration of business that are less profitable. Migrant workers, part time everything thrown into one. The problem with your reasoning is that Tesla is singular. I don't know where you live, but here in central PA anyone with no experience can walk into a plant and get a job of twenty plus dollars per hour. My cleaning lady makes $25 per hour -- no skills, no union, and $3 less than the average union autoworker salary and she has more work than she can take. Plus it's cash and the chances are minimal that she pays taxes on it and of course no dues. Take an autoworker who is ready to retire. Started work in the eighties. I am not going to do the math, but I guarantee you, if you took the money he spent on dues over thirty years and had invested it in a stock index he would be far better off financially. And then if they had taken their stock and sold it and bought TEsla five years ago, every dollar they invested would be worth $1,141. So if they invested a messily 1k they would be more than a millionare today. If they had invested all their union dues for thirty years they would have more then 12million dollars today. That is using $15/hr from beginning to end for thirty years and you know they would have made more than that. On the other hand the UAW considers their latest wins a victory. These companies that caved will all be gone within a decade. No more GM, or STelantis, Ford may survive, and possibly Toyota if they copy Tesla and purchase tech from them. GM will once again come begging for a gov bail out that once again they will not repay. Plus it is all irrelevant because no one will be doing unskilled manual labor, and possibly not legal work, or a hundred other jobs that AI and the inevitable humanoid robots will be performing vastly better. No labor in the future so unions will serve no practical purpose. Even now if you teach one Teslbot a skill all of them become just as accomplished as the one that was taught it. In the future this will mean tens of thousands of bots will be able to master tasks in no time, instead of months and years. Unions and guilds served their purpose but nothing can stop what is now happening.
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  134.  @abasilumsmith91  Absolute nothing at all. And Tesla is attempting to make a secure and lavish life not just for it's employees but eventually for everybody. And that takes concentrated capital, vast amounts of it allocated in strategic industries both for the security of families and the race as a whole, That's what the whole independent off world colony thing is about. Musk knows he will be dead before it happens, but he is striving to secure it. These things are not a secret, it's all spelled out in Tesla's not so secret secret plan that was published years ago. If you are young enough you will live to see thousands of Tesla bots landing on Mars, perhaps with a few scientists and engineers, and building and infrastructure out of native materials that will provide the seed for a real self-sustaining colony. Then, asteroids, nuclear war, climate change may come, eventually some extinction event will happen, it has over and over. But now thanks to this much maligned revolutionary thinker, consciousness will survive, in an otherwise dark universe (as far as we know). So I guess that having a month or two vacation, or a two year maternity leave is nice, but so irrelevant in the big picture. And of course the other off shoot of the convergence of tech breakthroughs the world is now witnessing will be affluence for all, and most likely a health-span of a vigorous few centuries. So what is important, the vision and pursuit of human ascendancy and it's golden destiny among the stars or a six week long vacation like my French friend who washed windows got?
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  136.  @sk0pe  I read what you said about Tesla employee stock program not benefiting the lowest wage workers and I was interested so I looked up the facts, read the program details and found out the the actual truth regarding what you wrote. Here it is Elroy. The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. And example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On Feburary 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit it even though it is a FACT. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: You are a shilll spewing nonsense who believes the lies of commercial media.
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  138.  @dannywindham3295  If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  161.  @maskedmarvyl4774  His stock option argument weak? If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  162. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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  163. It's the people not the system Mat. If you think you would be better off in a union working for GM or Ford, than to be working for Tesla and taking advantage of the employee stock program -- think again. Time for the woke folk to wake the fuck up and put down the crack pipe of commercial media lies. The facts: The average salary paid to an employee working at Tesla is $110,192. Tesla pay is based on an employee’s position and department. The product team earns an average salary of $201,032. This is the highest salary figure of any department at Tesla. The lowest earning department at Tesla is admin. It is estimated a receptionist earns $38,015 annually. Just to make it easier lets say a salary of 40k. Because Mary is a real looker, is charming and has a sexy voice so she was able to get 40k as a salary, though she never got any raises to make up for it. That means that every six months she is able to buy three thousand dollars of Tesla stock at a discount of 15% off the lower price of the closing price of day one and day 180 each six months. An example: Mary works as the lowest paid position in Tesla. She is a receptionist. She has been working for five years and ten months. She started work on Feb 1, 2019. Tesla closed at $21.33. On August 1st 2019 it closed at $15.04. She was then able to spend $3,000 on 234.5 shares of Tesla at a employee discount price of 12.79. On Feb 1st 2020, she was again eligible to buy three thousand dollars of stock. Tesla closes at $44.53, but she is still able to buy 234.5 more shares at $12.79. Mary now has 469 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2020 Tesla closed at $166.11. But Mary was still able to buy $3000 dollars of Tesla at $37.85 (79.25 shares). Mary now has 548.25 shares of Tesla. Thirty days later Tesla stock splits 5 - 1. Mary now has 2,741.25 shares of Tesla stock. On February 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $225.17. But Mary is still able to buy it for $141.19. Mary now has 2,762.5 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2021 Tesla closes at $245.25, but Mary is able to purchase it for 208.46. She spends her $3000 and Mary now has 2,776.89 shares of Tesla. On February 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $290.14. But Mary is able to buy it at $246.62. Mary now has 2,789.05 shares of Tesla stock. On August 1st 2022 Tesla closed at $275.61. Mary's price is $234.27. Mary now has 2,801.85 shares of Tesla. Twenty three days later Tesla stock splits 3-1. Mary now has 8,405.56 shares of Tesla. . . . Are you beginning to understand what nonsense you are spewing? It's OK I know you can't admit because you are steeped in lies and have to make meaningless "virtue" signaling to the rest of the puddin' head mob. On February 1st 2023 Tesla closes at $205.71. Mary's price is $176.85. She now owns 8,422.52 shares of Tesla. On August 1st 2023 Tesla closed at $258.08 Mary is still able to buy at $176.85 Mary now owns 8,439.47 shares of Tesla stock. Mary has been working for almost six years. Her salary totals $232,000. Her Tesla stock is worth $2,088,784.96. She became a millionaire working as a receptionist. Conclusion: Not what you thought -- aye Elroy?
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