Comments by "SkyRiver" (@SkyRiver1) on "Verge TS Ultra: The Future of Electric Motorcycling | CES 2024" video.

  1. Better test drive this one, on rough roads and sharp turns. Competition and dirt bikes do not reduce every gram of unsprung weight for no reason. Motors in the wheels are a massive amount of unsprung weight.
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  2. Same thing that ruins the Aptera. Performance enthusiasts have been reducing unsprung weight for a reason. There is reason that people pay huge amounts to have carbon fiber wheels and lite unsprung components. You would think that Monroe would mention this factor in Aptera and this bike. Can you imagine dragging an unsprung motor in a dirt bike were the handling is paramount?
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  3.  @gwarlow  Matters less, but still matters greatly in handling.
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  4. . . . total of unsprung weight because of hub motor shortcut.
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  5. A winning lottery ticket will do you zero good on the cybertruck. Get in line.
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  6.  @Tomzuki.  Since YOuTube will not allow a link to an outside source that would explain to you the fundamentals of moto suspension here is what Chat GPT has to say on the matter. Low unsprung mass is crucial in motorcycles used on the street for several reasons: Improved Handling and Responsiveness: Unsprung mass refers to the weight of components not supported by the suspension system, such as wheels, tires, and part of the motorcycle's suspension. Reducing unsprung mass enhances the motorcycle's ability to respond quickly to changes in the road surface. This results in improved handling, better maneuverability, and increased responsiveness, especially during cornering and quick direction changes. Enhanced Suspension Performance: A lower unsprung mass allows the suspension system to react more efficiently to bumps, irregularities, and other road imperfections. The suspension can follow the contours of the road more accurately, providing a smoother and more controlled ride. This is particularly important for street motorcycles where comfort and stability are essential. Increased Traction: Lower unsprung mass contributes to better tire contact with the road surface. Improved traction is essential for safe street riding, especially during acceleration, braking, and cornering. With reduced unsprung mass, the tires can maintain better contact with the road, leading to enhanced grip and stability. Reduced Vibrations and Fatigue: Motorcycles with lower unsprung mass tend to experience fewer vibrations transmitted from the road to the rider. This not only enhances comfort but also reduces rider fatigue during long rides. The overall smoothness of the ride contributes to a more enjoyable and less tiring experience for street riders. Braking Performance: Low unsprung mass is beneficial for braking performance. The reduced weight in the unsprung components allows the braking system to work more effectively, resulting in quicker and more controlled stops. This is crucial for street motorcycles where sudden stops may be necessary in traffic or emergency situations. Fuel Efficiency: While the impact on fuel efficiency may be relatively small, reducing unsprung mass can contribute to overall energy efficiency. Lighter components require less energy to move, and this can result in slightly improved fuel economy. In summary, low unsprung mass in street motorcycles enhances handling, responsiveness, traction, and overall ride quality. These factors are vital for a positive riding experience, safety, and performance on the diverse road conditions encountered in everyday street riding.
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  7. You want an unsprung motor in an off road bike? Think again.
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