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Comments by "SkyRiver" (@SkyRiver1) on "Lithium: The False Profit of Electrification || Peter Zeihan" video.
You feel that do you. Well bless your little brain.
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And average of ten years. Good thing Tesla has been planning ahead for twenty.
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No they don't.. They are a step backwards. They take an elegant robust system and add a overly complex and inefficient gas engine to produce an even more complex system that is even more likely to catch fire than a gas engine which is far more likely to catch fire than an EV. But the ICE OEMs that cannot compete in EV are spreading this disinfo as the only way they can delay their demise because they cannot compete in price or tech with Tesla.
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vapor ware.
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@Skunk106 I take it you have never been to an Asian city.
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And e scooters are a venue where battery swapping works great. Take Gorgoro, a beautiful little scooter that you never have to charge, you just pull up to the local 7/11 deposit your battery in a slot and take a charged one. Should be an enormous game changer. Faster than pumping gas and perfect for places like Thailand, India, etc,
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@serafinacosta7118 Asia is the place where it will actually matter. Take a look at a street scene in Vietnam or Thailand.
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@ericposey-vt5ej Not "renewable" -- recyclable. In April, for example, Fortum Battery Recycling started operations at a hydrometallurgical plant in Harjavalta, Finland, that claims to recover more than 95% of the cobalt, manganese, nickel, and lithium present in black mass.
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It's about time that the fire risk myth is sunk. Gas engines are far more likely to catch fire, and hybrids are even worse.
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@ericposey-vt5ej Petrol is not renewable or recyclable. Electricity can be. If lithium so bad why has the construction business been overtaken with Lithium battery powered tools? Because being tied to a electric line sucks even worse. Just like being tied to a murderous and polluting industry like Petrol sucks even worse. Where was all the concern when we knew all along that producing a car produced two tons of pollution before it is even driving off the line? You are not impressed by 95% recycling? Sounds like a personal thing to me.
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In April, for example, Fortum Battery Recycling started operations at a hydrometallurgical plant in Harjavalta, Finland, that claims to recover more than 95% of the cobalt, manganese, nickel, and lithium present in black mass.
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The catching on fire lie again. Were you concerned about your gas car catching on fire? It is far more likely to go up in flames than an EV. and hybrids are even worse. The insurance industry has all the facts. This is a typical red herring from the ICE OEMS that are not able to produce a good EV.
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vaporware
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He still didn't go deep enough to really understand the current development, tech, and recycling.
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@LRRPFco52 You mean "low emissions" if you rig your car computers and cheat on the tests. Diesel is a filthy tech. Not only are its emissions toxic they are carcinogenic. And some of us have to breath that air your diesels are pissing into.
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@dzcav3 Maybe: where did you get your info? All I can find is a break down into Toyota cars and trucks and neither is close to lowest days of inventory among different brands. Nonetheless, I kind of feel sorry for anyone who buys a hybrid. It can really only be done out of lack of information about the whole deal. Increased complexity is not the way to go when more efficient and robust systems are available. And soon they will be available at the same price point as the RAV. Actually this is already the case in Europe because of imports like the Chinese MG. Eventually they will adopt the superior system when they realize the advantages and that the drawbacks are largely imaginary.
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@dzcav3 Hybrids are efficient if you don't really know what the word "efficient" means. ICE engines deliver about 40% of energy from the combustion as usable energy and the rest as waste heat. And to make matters worse, some of the usable energy has to be used to get rid of the waste heat. While electric engines deliver over 90% of their energy as usable mechanical energy. Which makes it kind of simple to determine what qualifies as efficient. If you drive on your little gas engine, like most hybrid owners do, most of the time, you are half as efficient as a pure EV plus you are more complex, more likely to catch on fire, and are hauling around a system you aren't using. But you do get more miles to a gallon than a pure EV.
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@dzcav3 To say that a hybrid Toyota is analogous to a diesel electric locomotive is just stupid. It is not extremely efficient, not even close. The truth is very simple: When you make an outdated Rube Goldberg whirlygig system like a combustion engine more complex, overall it is a losing proposition compared to an simple, truly more efficient system like an EV. Look: even the challenged can understand that a system that has over five hundred moving parts for every moving part in an electric motor and is not even half as efficient (as efficiency is actually measured by physicists) is just not a good choice. Unless you truly live in Timbuktu and have no charging infrastructure or a house that you can charge from. Right now the old OEMs are pushing this disinformation in every media they can because they cannot compete and want to live another year or two. While behind the scenes Toyota is attempting to adapt Tesla manufacturing tech as fast as they can. But they are still incapable of producing anything approaching the model Y they disassembled and called "A masterpiece of engineering."
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@dzcav3 So why don't you take into account the "total system efficiency"? That would include the all the expenses of pumping, cracking, and distribution of petroleum, not just the losses in transmission on the grid of electricity. As far as Stellantis and Nissan are concerned: bring it up when it is a thing, which it probably will never be, like Toyota's famous invisible solid state batteries. By far most electricity is generated by burning natural gas, not so bad as coal, but not that great either. And the USA is the biggest producer of petrol because of fracking -- However that petrol must be exported to be processed because no industrial infrastructure in the USA is able to process light sweet crude. Perhaps you missed the announcement by Toyota naming the Tesla model Y "An engineering masterpiece that we are not presently capable of reproducing. But they are trying and in the meantime spreading the disinfo about hybrids. This is so typical, like the belief that EVs catch on fire much more than ICE vechiles, while the truth is that ICE vehicles go up in flames much more frequently and hybrids are by far the worst in this category. Your former comments are far from "correct" as you did not include the real cost of petrol. And as I pointed out: if one is charging their EV with dirty electricity it is a choice they made out of indolence. You pretend to be objective but are far from it.
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@Skunk106 They are hardly hard to recycle.
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