Comments by "SkyRiver" (@SkyRiver1) on "Joe Rogan Experience #1565 - Gary Laderman" video.

  1. I always found peyote to be my fav, back in the day. I did all the famous hits of old: owsley, orange sunshine, all the famous sixties stuff, and none of them were as absolutely transforming and truly hallucinogenic as peyote no matter how intense they were, and STP was intense -- for days. Back then I used to buy buttons from a Indian dude in Tempe AZ. He had a basement full of burlap sacks full of dried peyote buttons. He charged seventy five cents a piece. This was rather unusual because he was the only person I knew in AZ that had a basement.
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  2.  @ryanmiller1317  I would say it is far more intense than mushrooms. I have never had actual hallucinations on mushrooms. I mean hallucinations where goddesses and demons appeared in the room and interacted with you, or my girlfriends nipples became two whirling sparklers, -- spinning in opposite directions by the way. Or a crimson goddess comes floating ingo the room on a flaming cloud. Or the entire world turns into spinning swastikas one growing out of the last and each resolving it self in ecstasy with little misshapen gnomes jumping out of them into the room. But that may be dose dependent. Shrooms give me a kind of nervous hollow feeling behind the conscious activity. Buttons on the other hand, though far more intense had this protected coddled almost nurtured aspect to them. Strangely enough I also tried San Pedro on a few occasions and it was not the same at all even though it is supposed to be the same active element. Once on San Pedro I just blacked out for hours and apparently just carried on normally. It was like a negative experience, not in a bad sense just in a nothing sense. One time I picked up this Mexican hitchhiker in the Sonoran desert and it turned out he was a brujo of sorts. He offered me these huge fresh peyote buttons after we stopped at a bar and played some pool. It was the only time I ever did fresh buttons. He watched me like a hawk while I ate them, expecting the gringo to be disgusted by the bitter taste. But they tasted fine to me and he found this hilarious. So it may be some kind of personal affinity I have for buttons. Back in the sixties I became convinced that LSD and company would save the world and enlighten people in mass. I was also quite sure that the experience on psychotropics was equivalent to if not synonymous with a state of mystical enlightenment. Then one day while on lunch break when I had a job in a popsicle factory during the summer, I was gazing out a window at a nearby bridge, and I could not possibly describe what happened next but it cured me of that particular assumption. And since then I have had other experiences that just blow psychedelics out of the water, and they were so perfectly apt so natural compared to psychedelics, yet even more extreme.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAOVUo5TYJM
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  3. I have experienced both, and drug induced and natural experiences are not even in the same world. Though I think that psychedelics may be the only way to affect enough people to make a real difference. One thing that they do have in common is how intensely different they are from the normal waking or sleep walking condition. Religion really has nothing at all to do with enlightenment, other than to keep people asleep for their entire lives. When people start quoting other people about such matters, chances are they have never really experienced a genuine natural awakening. There is nothing about it or that will actually help someone that can be written, spoken, or thought. Just my not so humble opinion. And sort of, this guys too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAOVUo5TYJM&t=10s This guy teaches at Emory. Jan Cox lived and partied and spoke in Atl for fifty years. He was the most awake person I ever came in contact with, and he wasn't religious or "spiritual" at all. Here's a bit of him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MYh6r_VCC4&t=1233s
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  4. Trump needs to trip more than any person I have ever come across. He would probably end up ego tripping though and get nothing from it.
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  5. Joe should tattoo his head.
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